Darmoshark - M5 Wireless

I have a Darmoshark M5 non-air. I don’t think it’s the best fingertip mouse, but it’s great in many ways at its price.

I just switched to a palm mouse today (fingertip -> MMO mouse), and I absolutely didn't account for how sweaty it was going to make my hand/I didn't realize that fingertip mousing was allowing airflow that I would miss when it was gone. XD Also, I forgot that removing the grip tape from my fingertip mouse was a bad time - I'd switched to a palm-like stance to prepare for switching mice, and... I don't miss fingertip at all. I don't have to engage my fingers to hold the thing, and I only need grip when lifting off (and there's enough "texture" in these MMO buttons on the side to act as a natural grip).

Being "jacked", and being a pro lifter isn't the same thing as *functional* *strength*. You can have all the muscle in the world, and not have the speed, control, or stamina required to move a heavy mouse around for a few hours at a time. Ultimately, a more massive mouse is going to require more dexterity and strength to overcome starting and stopping inertia, and more stamina to keep up with during matches. Imagine having no mouse weight at all - the mass you're dealing with becomes just your hand, which is not zero. You still need the strength and dexterity to move your hand, and stop your hand. It's still a function of the full arm/chest system's ability. If we go the opposite direction, a heavier mouse just requires more. Spend more time with a heavier mouse, your will acclimate. I thought I wanted hyper-light keyboard switches, so I modded 20g springs into my optical, linear board. Lots of mistakes, and trying to go back to my de-clicked Box Navy board was an exhausting thing. But I got used to it (again), and it's now really consistent, and I can type just as fast as I did before (and the heavier springs damp the bottom out, so it's actually slightly more comfortable). Assuming everybody has maximum game sense and tactics, a lighter mouse is only better if you're not willing to acclimate to a heavier mouse. I honestly think the whole push for lighter mice is a matter of side-by-side comparison, and how a lighter mouse feels better in the moment, after *just* using a heavier mouse, but eventually it starts feeling "heavy" again, because you've acclimated to it. Which is exactly what I was feeling when using my Darmoshark M5 for a good while. And there's some argument that "you've been training with a heavier mouse, and now you're using a lighter one, so it's going to feel faster and easier, because you're acclimated to a heavier something". I have this 40g Darmoshark mouse, and I just got a 120g "MMO" mouse *today* \- all of this is fresh in my mind. I'm honestly thinking about looking into adding weight to my mouse, and then switching to a glass pad or something. And that's another something to consider: if you're using cloth, a heavier mouse "digs" into the material more. If you're on a hard pad, it's going to be even less of a difference.

A lightweight mouse is only more responsive because the weight of the device is greatly overpowered by the strength and dexterity of your wrist, arm, and shoulder tendons & muscles. If you trained with a much heavier mouse, you will eventually acclimate, and it will stop feeling heavy (you have to give your body time to acclimate). Ultimately, mouse weight doesn't matter. (I just - today, like an hour ago - "downgraded" to a massive, heavy MMO mouse from my Darmoshark M5 fingertip, 40g mouse. Having more buttons will be *awesome...* if I can get this software to work. The only real downside I'm running into: I didn't realize switching to palm grip, and pressing my hand up against a giant mouse, was going to make my hand heat up as much as it does!)

As far as I'm aware, my current setup is my endgame. I can't find anything better that's readily available/trustworthy: * Redragon M811W-RGB-PRO * Ergonomic tilt (would prefer vertical, but I don't think there are any vertical MMO mice). I thought my Darmoshark M5 was my endgame, but, in hindsight, I was just putting up with wrist pronation, and having to close my thumb and little finger together just all the time, and that's exhausting and terrible * Plenty of buttons for hotkeys/macros/navigation * Comfortable * Wireless * Weight is not a concern - I can acclimate * Games other than high speed FPS/twitch shooters *exist*, but you wouldn't know it from visiting this subreddit * PFU Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 PD-KB400B * There's a wireless mod I'm considering * Tactility feels really good * Bested my personal typing speed record on this thing, and I've only had it a few weeks * I would like to get MX stems for it, so I can try my MOA keycaps - could be a good time * I hear stupid-stiff domes would be a good time for me, too, so that's in a cart somewhere I'm not super fond of the... Yugioh card mat I'm using as a mouse surface/deskmat currently, and I'd like to try a glass pad at some point. I miss the Razer Sphex I had, like, a decade ago.

Darmoshark m5 for me personally, its just a cheaper gwolves alternative imo, can't say for sure its better cus i don't have the gwolves equivalent

I think you are right. But they don't have any business to be that expensive. We need more 50-80 fingertip mice. Right now there is only keychron K4 and Darmo M5.

I would love if Darmoshark made their M5 Air from plastic and made it same price as regular M5. Or if somebody like Mchose repurposed their top tier PCB from L7 and made fingertip mouse.

Hey, I’ve got the orange Zero too!! With my Darmoshark M5 as well, the white on orange is so pretty 🥰

I almost pulled the trigger on the m5 but had this randomly pop up on fb marketplace for basically the same price as the m5. I really like the mouse, my only real gripe is the placement of the side buttons. I'm used to hitting them with the middle joint on my thumb but it's just harder with this mouse. Nother other complaints though. The Fenrir Asym is a good bit shorter and wider than the m5 so i'd be curious to see how different it would be to use. I also had an op1 8k but decided it wasn't going to be my main. Great mouse though.

If price is no object and you still want a "traditional" mouse htx and the weird new hts demolish the competition for that agressive of fingertip. Thr cooler master mm712 is a fine shape, but is wide and has a very forward sensor position which is amenable to fingertip. The new pulsar products are great if you want that viper-ish shape with flatter sides. I would seriously reccomend considering a fingertip only mouse, your grip is CRAZY agressive. Darmoshark m5 or hsk pro are the best options rn imo. Keychron m4 is pretty polarizing

The HSK plus will feel a bit like a GPX and the Darmoshark M5 will feel like a Finalmouse small (Both being with their backs cut off) Personally I love my M5, but you get whatever suits you. HSK is larger, M5 is smaller

darmoshark m5, better sensor. my hsk plus lite doesnt perform well on glass, and the battery life is pretty bad too

What’s your experience with fingertips? I just got a Darmoshark 5 after using OP1 for a while and am in love.

Mouse: Darmoshark M5 Pad: Saturn Pro Keyboard: RK Royal Kludge RK84 Game(s): Primarily Helldivers 2 at the moment with Hell Let Loose and Delta Force sprinkled in.

This. Highly dependent on your grip style preference. After getting what I thought would be the best based on popular opinion (which wasn’t wrong) I realized I prefer finger tip style, so the Darmoshark M5 is my main.

I love my Darnoshark M5, it’s all I use.

I’m really wanting the fenrir asym, but honestly I’d like to try all their fingertip mice. I was using the OP1 for a while before getting my Darmoshark M5, and I’m in love with it. It’s all I use, primarily for shooters.

Yeah no complaints about the OP1, I think I realized it was just a little long for me personally. Nice find! I would’ve done the same. I plan on getting a g-wolves eventually but they are a bit on the pricier side for me personally. Interesting, just tried it out and looks like I use the tip of my thumb with the M5, honestly not something I’d ever thought about haha