M5 Wireless

I have a Darmoshark M5 non-air. I don’t think it’s the best fingertip mouse, but it’s great in many ways at its price.

You can find them on AliExpress the darmoshark m5, m3s micro and keychron m4 all base versions. Also r/mousemarket and eBay if you're fine with second hand unit

I'm talking about the base version obviously the cheapest version so far the darmoshark and keychron is what I considered a budget fingertip mouse

I recommend the mchose l7 or darmoshark m5 (a fingertip only mouse)

Try the darmoshark m5 / m3 micro

Fingertip? So your palm is not touching the back of the mouse and you're only controlling the mouse using your fingertips? Get the darmoshark m5 or keychron m4 the cheapest fingertip mouse that I know the rest of the fingertip only mouse is on the expensive side because they're a niche shape. Both mice can be used wired and wireless. The m5 and m4 are ambidextrous, ergonomic is a weird shape that angle your hand on the right side

Darmoshark m5 and keychron m4

Darmoshark m5 (fingertip mouse) Keychron m4 (another fingertip mouse) Mchose l7 (more like a claw or fingertip grip hybrid)

Skip these mice and buy the darmoshark m5 or keychron m4 these mice will be much better for your grip style and handsize

I just switched to a palm mouse today (fingertip -> MMO mouse), and I absolutely didn't account for how sweaty it was going to make my hand/I didn't realize that fingertip mousing was allowing airflow that I would miss when it was gone. XD Also, I forgot that removing the grip tape from my fingertip mouse was a bad time - I'd switched to a palm-like stance to prepare for switching mice, and... I don't miss fingertip at all. I don't have to engage my fingers to hold the thing, and I only need grip when lifting off (and there's enough "texture" in these MMO buttons on the side to act as a natural grip).

Being "jacked", and being a pro lifter isn't the same thing as *functional* *strength*. You can have all the muscle in the world, and not have the speed, control, or stamina required to move a heavy mouse around for a few hours at a time. Ultimately, a more massive mouse is going to require more dexterity and strength to overcome starting and stopping inertia, and more stamina to keep up with during matches. Imagine having no mouse weight at all - the mass you're dealing with becomes just your hand, which is not zero. You still need the strength and dexterity to move your hand, and stop your hand. It's still a function of the full arm/chest system's ability. If we go the opposite direction, a heavier mouse just requires more. Spend more time with a heavier mouse, your will acclimate. I thought I wanted hyper-light keyboard switches, so I modded 20g springs into my optical, linear board. Lots of mistakes, and trying to go back to my de-clicked Box Navy board was an exhausting thing. But I got used to it (again), and it's now really consistent, and I can type just as fast as I did before (and the heavier springs damp the bottom out, so it's actually slightly more comfortable). Assuming everybody has maximum game sense and tactics, a lighter mouse is only better if you're not willing to acclimate to a heavier mouse. I honestly think the whole push for lighter mice is a matter of side-by-side comparison, and how a lighter mouse feels better in the moment, after *just* using a heavier mouse, but eventually it starts feeling "heavy" again, because you've acclimated to it. Which is exactly what I was feeling when using my Darmoshark M5 for a good while. And there's some argument that "you've been training with a heavier mouse, and now you're using a lighter one, so it's going to feel faster and easier, because you're acclimated to a heavier something". I have this 40g Darmoshark mouse, and I just got a 120g "MMO" mouse *today* \- all of this is fresh in my mind. I'm honestly thinking about looking into adding weight to my mouse, and then switching to a glass pad or something. And that's another something to consider: if you're using cloth, a heavier mouse "digs" into the material more. If you're on a hard pad, it's going to be even less of a difference.

A lightweight mouse is only more responsive because the weight of the device is greatly overpowered by the strength and dexterity of your wrist, arm, and shoulder tendons & muscles. If you trained with a much heavier mouse, you will eventually acclimate, and it will stop feeling heavy (you have to give your body time to acclimate). Ultimately, mouse weight doesn't matter. (I just - today, like an hour ago - "downgraded" to a massive, heavy MMO mouse from my Darmoshark M5 fingertip, 40g mouse. Having more buttons will be *awesome...* if I can get this software to work. The only real downside I'm running into: I didn't realize switching to palm grip, and pressing my hand up against a giant mouse, was going to make my hand heat up as much as it does!)

As far as I'm aware, my current setup is my endgame. I can't find anything better that's readily available/trustworthy: * Redragon M811W-RGB-PRO * Ergonomic tilt (would prefer vertical, but I don't think there are any vertical MMO mice). I thought my Darmoshark M5 was my endgame, but, in hindsight, I was just putting up with wrist pronation, and having to close my thumb and little finger together just all the time, and that's exhausting and terrible * Plenty of buttons for hotkeys/macros/navigation * Comfortable * Wireless * Weight is not a concern - I can acclimate * Games other than high speed FPS/twitch shooters *exist*, but you wouldn't know it from visiting this subreddit * PFU Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 PD-KB400B * There's a wireless mod I'm considering * Tactility feels really good * Bested my personal typing speed record on this thing, and I've only had it a few weeks * I would like to get MX stems for it, so I can try my MOA keycaps - could be a good time * I hear stupid-stiff domes would be a good time for me, too, so that's in a cart somewhere I'm not super fond of the... Yugioh card mat I'm using as a mouse surface/deskmat currently, and I'd like to try a glass pad at some point. I miss the Razer Sphex I had, like, a decade ago.

I second this. I'm 18x10 cm (short but wide hand) mostly fingertip and the Beast X Mini 4k is the best fit ever. It's very light and you can get it with closed sides now. Otherwise the Viper Mini SE is a bit bigger but a nice fit too. Pulsar X2v2 is good. The Ninjutso Sora v2 feels a bit big for fingertip. A surprisingly good one for fingertip is the Damoshark M5, if you don't mind the higher rear bump.

Darmoshark m5 for me personally, its just a cheaper gwolves alternative imo, can't say for sure its better cus i don't have the gwolves equivalent

Darmoshark M3 micro or M5? I have longer hands than you but my palm is really short. Currently barely palming a rapoo vt0, but it's definitely too big for you. My old mouse, the Razer Atheris, is similar in size to the M5, so that could work. I use a knuckle claw grip with that. Only changed because it's battery powered and way too heavy.

I think you are right. But they don't have any business to be that expensive. We need more 50-80 fingertip mice. Right now there is only keychron K4 and Darmo M5.

I would love if Darmoshark made their M5 Air from plastic and made it same price as regular M5. Or if somebody like Mchose repurposed their top tier PCB from L7 and made fingertip mouse.