Endgame Gear - OP1

Or OP1w 4k if wanting a wireless mouse. The regular (non 8k) wired OP1 versions are also good choices.

I was in a similar Situation trying to replace my RVM. After using a R1 Pro for a bit, I didnt really like it plus it broke so I endend up getting my money back. Bought a OP1 (non 8k) for 50 bucks after that and couldnt be happier with it.

It will depend on your hand size, preferred grip type, and preference of wireless vs wired. eloshapes is a good tool for doing size comparisons. https://www.eloshapes.com/ Personally I like the Endgame Gear OP1W-4K-V2 or OP1 for claw grip. They are also usable with finger grip, palm grip I prefer something wider. https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/gaming-mice/op1w-4k-v2 https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/gaming-mice/op1 I would recommend ignoring differences in sensors/DPI. All the modern options are so good you can't feel the difference. Same with 1000 vs 8000Hz polling. Weight does matter, but small differences like 3-5g are less important than how the mouse feels in your hand.

Endgame gear op1 nice small mouse with hotswap feature Razer cobra decent small mouse with optical switch

All zowie wireless mice, op1 dark frost rgb / op18k v2 dark frost, razer cobra wired, deathadder V3 wired

Endgame gear op1 this mouse has a hotspot feature you can change the default switches into. A silent switch.

I have tried Logitech, razer, Endgame gear, zowie mice and my experience with Logitech the g102 prodigy it's rock solid no issues with the clicks and scroll wheel the rubber scroll wheel deteriorated. Razer the dav2 mini, rvm, Dav3 wired and cobra wired, I had to rma my rvm 7 times knowing it uses a shit encoder my last razer mice are the cobra and dav3 and the quality improved a lot. Endgame gear op1 and zowie are the same they're sturdy but I'll give zowie an upper hand because they use an optical scroll wheel encoder.

Endgame gear op1 default switches are loud but it has a hotswap feature so you don't need to solder stuff open the mouse use the provided screw driver and put a silent switch inside the hotswap PCB.

I have a more updated list here: * Incott Ghero Pro: Solid Mouse that feels like a GPX Ergo (or NP-01 Clone) and is extremely solidly build while staying price wise at 50$ * VGN Dragonfly F1: Solid orignial shape with a larger rear hump on the end that curves more inwards before coming out at the front, very safe shape at 46$ * ATK Blazing Sky F1: Shaped akin to a Sora V2 it's got a much larger rear hump with substantial curves as it comes into the front while going thinner towards it with lowered clicks. Is 38g and has a 3950 sensor but is usually a full 70$ * Darmoshark M3S: Solid Viper styled shape with those same bell curves, usually around 40$ * Zaopin Z2: Solid ergo light with a much smaller ergo feel yet still has a nice rounded bump and curve to it for the ergo feel at 50$ * Endgame Gear OP1 Wired: This is what a lot of mice are based on as EGG has some of the better mice on market in terms of quality and built and software. It's one of the best mice you can buy. It is wired but if you don't care about 4k or 8k it's perfectly fine at 45$ * VXE R1: Nearly identical to the Pulsar X2V2 it's got a super solid feel and the pro model has a better coating and overall well implemented sensor. Considered the king of the budgets it's 50$ for the Pro and as low as 20$ for not pro. * VXE Mad R: Identical to the mouse above in shape its another X2V2 clone perfect at 38g great for all grip styles, the Major verision has a 3950 sensor and is 45$ for normal, 63$ for Major, if you can grab this over the normal R1. * Incott HPC02M: is a X2 clone with supersolid build quality and the ability to swap the switches with ease. 55$ * PureTrak Valor: Clone of the GPX but with 3395 and USB-C that usually sells for sub 50$ * Incott G23: GPX clone with hotswappable switches at 50$ * Phlyina S450: HTS+ Clone with solid build quality and a really good mouse. They are working on a 38g version and have a 4k version around 40-50$ * Scyrox V8: Sora V2 clone at 38g with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 70$ * Attack Shark R6: Another Sora V2 Clone with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 50$. * ATK Blazing Sky X1: Viper V3 clone with 3950 and solid build quality right at the 70$ price range. * Incott G24: Zowie EC2 Clone that's hotswap and solid weight can be found for 70$ * Mchose L7: 38g with a shape somewhere between the Lamzu Atlantis and X2V2. It has flatter sides but still a larger rear curve to lock in slightly better than something like the Mad R while still feeling very premium. Basic model has 3395 for 45$ and pro is closer to 60$ for 3950. * Lethal LA-1: Basically a larger OP1. Same kind of curves but a larger overall feel, due to having some very small issues with the batch and to compete with budget mice it can now be found for 30$. * Razer Viper V3 Hyperspeed: While a bit heavier than most at 83g and using a AA battery, It still boasts a solid sensor and performance with a shape that people adore for 70$ * Scyrox V8 and V6: solid Sora clone and HTS+ clone both at around 40g with full 8k and solid internals. Very good overall and some of the best budget out there. 70$

I have it as well and something about it is too thin and doesn't fit for me. Despite that I play like a god on it. Something about it just works in a way my other mice just don't compete with.

My copy paste list * Incott Ghero Pro: Solid Mouse that feels like a GPX Ergo (or NP-01 Clone) and is extremely solidly build while staying price wise at 50$ * VGN Dragonfly F1: Solid orignial shape with a larger rear hump on the end that curves more inwards before coming out at the front, very safe shape at 46$ * Hitscan Hyperlight: Solid middle hump with great curves keeping it solidly usable for any and all grip styles. One of the best on market at 80$ * ATK Blazing Sky F1: Stolen variation of an earlier model of The Hitscan it's got a much larger mid hump with substantial curves as it comes into the front while going thinner towards it with lowered clicks. Is 38g and has a 3950 sensor but is usually a full 70$ * Darmoshark M3S: Solid Viper styled shape with those same bell curves, usually around 40$ * Zaopin Z2: Solid ergo light with a much smaller ergo feel yet still has a nice rounded bump and curve to it for the ergo feel at 50$ * Endgame Gear OP1 Wired: This is what a lot of mice are based on as EGG has some of the better mice on market in terms of quality and built and software. It's one of the best mice you can buy. It is wired but if you don't care about 4k or 8k it's perfectly fine at 45$ * VXE R1: Nearly identical to the Pulsar X2V2 it's got a super solid feel and the pro model has a better coating and overall well implemented sensor. Considered the king of the budgets it's 50$ for the Pro and as low as 20$ for not pro. * VXE Mad R: Identical to the mouse above in shape its another X2V2 clone perfect at 38g great for all grip styles, the Major verision has a 3950 sensor and is 45$ for normal, 63$ for Major, if you can grab this over the normal R1. * Incott HPC02M: is a X2 clone with supersolid build quality and the ability to swap the switches with ease. 55$ * Incott G23: GPX clone with hotswappable switches at 50$ * Scyrox V8: Sora V2 clone at 38g with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 70$ * ATK Blazing Sky X1: Viper V3 clone with 3950 and solid build quality right at the 70$ price range. * Incott G24: Zowie EC2 Clone that's hotswap and solid weight can be found for 70$ * Mchose L7: 38g with a shape somewhere between the Lamzu Atlantis and X2V2. It has flatter sides but still a larger rear curve to lock in slightly better than something like the Mad R while still feeling very premium. Basic model has 3395 for 45$ and pro is closer to 60$ for 3950. * Lethal LA-1: Basically a larger OP1. Same kind of curves but a larger overall feel, due to having some very small issues with the batch and to compete with budget mice it can now be found for 30$. * Scyrox V6: Very Solid HTS+ clone both at around 40g with full 8k and solid internals, with a splid rear hump and hourglass greay for all grip types. Very good overall and some of the best budget out there. 70$ * Attackshark R6: Same shape and weight and sensor as the Scyrox V8 and Sora V2 and the only real mouse from Attackshark I reccomend for 55$ * ATK A9: Best Superlight clone on market feels extremely good in hand can be found for as low as 20$ but I reccomend at least getting the Plus for a 3395 and coating at 30$, if you go beyond that it can be a very good exact GPX clone with 8k polling. * Mchose M7: Zowie U2 clone very solidly built great for claw with a larger rear hump can be found for 50$ * Ipi Float: traditional hourglass shape much akin to a finalmouse on a budget, solo for roughly 60$ * ATK U2: A zowie U2 clone that's extremely accurate and feels good in the hand massive changes for a class shake with a large rear hump. * VGN Y2: NP-01s come that's very solid, good ergo shape that's in-between a full ergo and a symmetrical one. * Ajazz: the entire company makes a massive variety of shapes. While their quality is by no means the best they have a varied amount of shapes with considering all at budget prices just try to get a 3395 model and don't expect a coating. For all ATK or VXE always try to at minimum get ones with a coating and 3395 sensor. If you can't tell which model had that check their list they always have in their websites. It should be a big box of all their model differences.

Endgame Gear OP1 wired has easily swappable switches and Endgame Gear sells silent switches for it. OP1 is a smaller mouse, but is a lot of people's favorite shape and seems to work for a lot of people with larger hands. I highly recommend it.

Honestly, I would just go for a really light goated shape that's thin as 7.5 cm wide hands is skinny as hell... So you're wrist range of motion isn't limited. \- PMM OP1 - less than 35 g and expected release sometime this month in October \- HTS Ultra 8K - 29.5 g like Scyrox V6/HTS Plus but shorter \- HTX Ultra 8K - 32.1 g if you like Razer Viper Mini buy this one \- Crosshair Sabre V2 Pro - 36 g and only recommending because you can try it in Best Buy at the Crosshair display before you buy it

Not lighter but the shape u describe might work well with an endgame gear xm2/Op1

Software is minimal, shape is good, not sure about Wireless but clicks are always at 8k, EGG switches and tech - Which makes the click happen before you can hear the click sound.

I think OP1 series from Endgamegear could be an answer. Other than that, try Waizowl's Cloud XS. It a Kinzu-like mouse in terms of shape. Have you tried egg-shaped mice as well? Aside from Logitech G304/305 and possibly other variants, Corsair does make mice with the same shape called Katar Elite Wireless.