Endgame Gear - OP1 8k v2

[Endgame OP1 8K](https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/gaming-mice/op1-8k-v2?attribute%5Bcolor%5D=White), just the best all-around hands down.

Technically yes but for Endgame Gear that would be a literal non-issue for 2 reasons. 1, their Kailh GX switches use SPDT tech, so there's a mode you can activate where it basically requires the switch be activated in a specific way that prevents double clicking, and 2, they literally market you being able to open up the mouse and swap out the switches for new ones by changing the daughterboard with packs they sell online. Makes it customizable. The OP1 series is what allows this. Otherwise if you don't wanna go for an OP1 8Kv2 or OP1W 4Kv2, can also recommend a Superlight 2c for the size (fantastic for ftip which surprised me). WLmouse BeastX series is also fantastic for ftip but the side buttons do sit a bit far forward.

I've been using shrouds g303 for like 4 years now. Its built like a tank and kinda shaped like one too. I enjoy it a lot but if there was ever a g303 pt.2 I would want it to be lighter and base surface to be bigger. At times I feel the bottom surface is too small but it could just be me. I switch back and forth on a Aqua Control 2 pad and a Superglide glass pad. My favorite thing about it is how comfortable it is to use all day and I also have big hands so it just feels great to me. Also right now I've testing another mouse from a recommendation, Endgame Gear's OP1 V2 (wired). I cannot recommend this mouse because of it's shape. It doesnt work for me at all. I wish the hump was higher so I can get a firm hold on the mouse. I don't feel confident while aiming I'll put it that way.

I have this on my table in the wired form. The shape of the mouse isn't for me. Tracking is nice on it but IDK I don't feel confident with my aim using this mouse

Bruh, it's kind of sad I can't say much, because I came from a Logitech G102. Maybe I can't tell the difference yet, but after just 30 minutes, I'm in love with the shape. I think.

Yes, my hands are kind of small; I really like the shape.

After using the V2 for a while, I tried to adjust a bit since I came from a G102. While I really like the back of the mouse, the front feels a bit narrow. I think it suits a claw grip, but I don't always use claw. I'm still trying to adjust, but overall, I really like it.

It’s between the Razer Deathadder V4, and the OP1/XM2 8k v2. The wired connectivity will beat out wireless, but the firmware and internals of the Deathadder are strictly better to my knowledge.

8K V2 + ATK RS6, lowest latency combo possible Pad: SteelSeries QcK, dont care much

Viper v2pro v3pro.(V2 best shape, V3 "safe" shape) *best sensor imo/from experience, no debounce delay* Super light 2. *Good sensor and no debounce delay.* Op1 8k (cable) or wireless 4k. *Fastest clicks, it registers the click before you hear the click sound. Good sensor.* My favorite of them all, G-wolf HTR 8k pro. Tiny mouse At 26g, I'm 6'4 and can use this little thing without any issues. But I would recommend the Endgame gear OP1 8k, Great shape, great coating for grip even with sweaty hands, fastest clicks of any mouse due to their own switches and good sensor. Light weight software (*no install*). Good price.

Viper v2pro v3pro.(V2 best shape, V3 "safe" shape) *best sensor imo/from experience, no debounce delay* Super light 2. *Good sensor and no debounce delay.* Op1 8k (cable) or wireless 4k. *Fastest clicks, it registers the click before you hear the click sound. Good sensor.* My favorite of them all, G-wolf HTR 8k pro. Tiny mouse At 26g, I'm 6'4 and can use this little thing without any issues. But I would recommend the Endgame gear OP1 8k, Great shape, great coating for grip even with sweaty hands, fastest clicks of any mouse due to their own switches and good sensor. Light weight software (*no install*). Good price.

Still Op18k, got large hands. But Mouse being on the smaller side isn't a problem. Tried other mice in between (gaming gear addiction). I just perform better and more consistently with it. My grip style is adaptable (I can use every style I've tried).

It sounds like they want an ergonomic shape based on their current mouse and the ones you're looking at. Sounds like you're okay with wired mice. I'd throw the Deathadder V3 wired in the mix as an affordable ergo though might not be the best for smaller hands. If they are open to Wireless options, I have a [Retro Xlite V2](https://www.pulsar.gg/products/xlite-v2-retro-brown?variant=44194578137342) that I would be okay parting ways with in your budget range if you want to DM me. If they don't care about ergonomic mouse shapes then the OP1 8k or XM2 8k are both phenomenal wired options at a great price though a little higher than the price of the mice you listed. Also good for smaller hands.

you seem to be a few years late. there are now the xm2 8k, and the op1 8k, and op1 8k v2(which i would consider as the best mouse) the thing about a cable is that many people are bothered by them, and on ultra light weight mice(<30g) you can tell that the cable is there. and for low sens players, it also bothers them as you can feel the cable move during fast flicks. source. i used to use really low sens(55cm/360) and i removed the battery from my vxe r1 se as it was shit. and the cable is super flexible, and it didnt bother me, but during fast flicks, it would. now that i use a moderate sens(32-37cm/360) it doesnt bother me at all. and why use a wired mouse, when wireless mice can now weigh 35g and have decent battery life with minimal input latency

Xm2 8k or op1 8k depending on your hand size or grip preference. Get a bungee, the wire is chill.

OP1 8k's good for rough use, if you want wireless, then use VXE R1 pro

Super disappointed with the switches. They are pretty stiff for nowadays standards, much stiffer than the Zowie U2 for example which are in the middle range. To me this is the biggest downside of the mouse for me. Quite unfortunate that’s the lightest switches Endgame offers, did anybody swap them with non official ones that feels lighter to activate ?

Light compared to what? Compared to the last 20 mice I got over the last 3 years they are not falling under the light category at all to me, at least for mechanical switches. An example of a light and spammable switch would be the Vaxee XE for example

That’s exactly how I like my clicks, the less actuation force is needed, the better

Right! I am not a fan of optical switches at the moment but I’m confident brands will improve them significantly over the years

Recently got the OP1 8K and a brand new desk mat cant wait for them to get here moving on from a razer wireless mouse.

Adding to this as well. Came from multiple wired and wireless mouse and OP18k has taken over the throne for me. Very responsive with the GX speed click settings and no need to worry about battery in the age of 8khz equivalent wireless mouse

I have similar sized hands, and used to play with an op18k. I could fingertip that mouse pretty reasonably, but still sometimes the shell would stop me from getting benefit out of finger actuation. So I made a zero mouse copy for it, it's on my profile if you're interested. Not 100% sure if it fits the same PCB. Other than that I've had a lot of luck with the razor orochi series, and recent offerings from final mouse.

Same hand size, used the op18k, BeastX, Lamzu Thorn and Scyrox V8. Out of all of them the Scyrox V8 feels the most comfortable. But my grip tends to be palm / relaxed claw so your experience may vary.

How would you not prefer wireless with amazing click latency? I tries the op1 8K and still hate cables lol.

I agree for keyboards and headphones but wired vs wireless mice latency is negligible in 2025. I have the fastest latency mouse, the op18k, and can't differentiate it from any of my wireless mice (ulx, crazylight, f1 extreme, etc.). Even polling rate is sort of irrelevant past 2k.

I'm a small woman so my hands are 16x8.5...I mained the x2 mini v1 for a while but I swapped off after experimenting with more mice and settled for a bit with the op18k because of its shape. I got the crazylight to see if I preferred it over the op18k, and while I prefer the op18k's shape, it's just kinda heavy for its size (even with a glass mousepad) and it has a wire (even though I use a bungee). I know 51g is really light to most people, but I've been using mice like the ULX which is 31g. I still swap between op18k and crazylight 50/50. I aggro claw and fingertip for microadjustments. The only thing I don't like about it is its width and the clicks on the op18k are tighter, less hollow, and more snappy. Some people think the pulsar x2 sides are too flat which makes it feel like you're holding a block, but I guess I'm weird and prefer that for my play style. As for the HE boards, it depends on how long you want to wait. There's not much known about wooting's 60he v2 other than their video and what was seen at Computex. I can't really comment on that but I don't think you'd regret getting a made68 pro now. It's a good board and quite frankly I don't have high hopes for wooting. But hey, some Computex attendees have said it's really good.

Look into an Op18k, most people here will moan and cry about it being wired, it has the lowest click latency out of any mouse. and i guarantee you it will last longer then most the suggestions put into the comments on this post.

Pwnage Stormbreaker for me. I don’t have Carpel Tunnel but I do have repetitive strain flare ups in my wrists and hands now and then. It’s the most comfortable mouse I’ve tried and I get the least fatigue with it compared to my other mice due to ergo shape and low weight. FYI I have used the OG superlight, Deathadder V3 Pro, Finalmouse ULX, and Endgame Gear OP18k. Hope you find the shape that lets you game comfortably!

I almost pulled the trigger on the m5 but had this randomly pop up on fb marketplace for basically the same price as the m5. I really like the mouse, my only real gripe is the placement of the side buttons. I'm used to hitting them with the middle joint on my thumb but it's just harder with this mouse. Nother other complaints though. The Fenrir Asym is a good bit shorter and wider than the m5 so i'd be curious to see how different it would be to use. I also had an op1 8k but decided it wasn't going to be my main. Great mouse though.

I am in the same boat I bought the endgamegear Op1 8k but it's too small for my hand. Now I can't decide between the xm2 / Viper v3 pro / Lamzu Maya fnc x 8k? 

If you are looking for that back hump, the OP1 8k is really good, the precision and stability you get with the shape is insane. But it's a really thin shape so if you want something wider, the Hyperlight is your best bet albeit with a less aggressive back hump.

If you don't mind the wire, the OP1 8k is really nice for general use. You can go for the 1k version too if you want something cheaper, I usually hover around 1-2k polling rate.

The shape is awesome if you are looking for a nimble ergo mouse. I thought it was a little small at first, smaller than the Viper v3 Pro. But after using it for a while size is perfect for my grip, very comfortable all around. Matches the Viper in terms of specs and the coating is perfect for my dry hands.

I find it the most comfortable tbh, they’re shapes I play better with sometimes such as the OP1-8K and Xlite CrazyLight. But there’s days when they feel weird to hold for some reason so I keep going back to the Hyperlight.

Op1 8k, artisan zero soft with the aritsan skates

If you want something that is solid as a rock, inexpensive, and will last you for 3+ years, then I'd recommend the Razer Viper 8k. Incredible mouse. Plus, it doesn't seem like you mind using a wired mouse, which is great. I'd also highly recommend the Endgame Gear Op1 8k, but I can't promise that'll last 3+ years.

My favourite mouse so far has been the op1 8k but I do prefer smaller mice. I would recommend trying the R6 as I found it more comfortable for longer use versus the OP1, but it's still nowhere near the XM2 width or anything.

Op18k is a great wired option, I prefer wired so it's my fav lol

It's a bit over budget, but if you're into esport games like r6, cs, valorant then I'd vouch for the op1 8k. It's a wired mouse, but it has the apparently the best click latency of gaming mice currently, isn't heavy at 50 grams, and has 8k polling if you care. I hear the wire is also pretty unobtrusive too. $109 at pccg.

endgame gear op18k is a relatively affordable very high performance small mouse suitable for claw, i’ve a similar hand size and grip style too and am a fan. if it’s mostly about shape for you i guarantee you can find older zowie za13/s2 b-c series for a good price that will likely perform better than any budget mouse. if you can find the old razer viper mini, they usually go for 25-45 quid these days, one of the most sought after mouse shapes it is a genuinely brilliant mouse esp on a budget. pulsar also have some decent budget options on their site but i haven’t tried any of their shapes, have heard excellent things about the x2 shape for claw/fingertip though!

If you don’t mind a wire then the op18k is in a league of its own. But if a wire is a no go, then you could think about the op1w4k or the Razer viper v3 pro. From a pure performance standpoint they are pretty much unbeatable. The op1 series is very small though mainly for claw grip in my opinion. The viper will be a bit more forgiving with grip type though.

Don’t get anything from Logitech, the quality is so bad now. Honestly the best build quality mouse if the op18k (a wired mouse). But if you really don’t want wireless then something like a scyrox v8 or Hitscan hyperlight are built amazingly for around $70

Shape is one of if not the best for medium / small hand sizes, the hump allows you to comfortably claw grip it while keeping the front more narrow for great use of fingertip adjustments. And then there's the fact that the build quality is all around premium, the coating, the switches are amazing, especially the side buttons which a lot of other mice use softer more mushier switches, whether these are all snappy and built like a tank. The stock skates are also really good. And the cable is very lightweight and flexible, it feels more like fabric and you practically don't notice it at all with a good dongle. Oh and the Op1 is built to be easily moddable, it's very easy to open, requiring just 2 screws and the switches have been made to be hot swappable if you wish to change them. The only reason I'm not using the op1 8k, 24/7 is the fact my desk is too small, so my wire drags slightly off the table, because going to the top of my pad makes my mouse wire fall off the desk. That won't be an issue for larger tables. It's also the fact of the weight, imo 50g\~ mice and under feel way less exhausting to use than 60g\~ mice. Which is why I tend to use the Hyperlight over the Op1 w4k. Because even though I prefer the op1 build quality and shape, it's just a way better experience using something lightweight. But that doesn't make it bad at all means. I can use my op1 w4k quite well, it's just I think having it as the same weight as the op1 8k, literally perfects it. As I said, the weight basically puts the op1 8k currently as the best mouse overall, if you get a bungee, you can just get a simple pulsar micro one and stick it to the underside of your monitor and you're good to go. Even then if you want to wait until July / June to get the v2 versions, that's completely up to you, they will have a slight weight reduction (we don't know about the op1 wireless or xm2 weights currently). And you'll get a slightly better build with a 3950 sensor, (but the difference between that and the 3395 is practically unnoticable) That's why I'm saying if the new op1 w4k v2 is 50g, you might as well not even buy anything else.

Try the op1 w4k, I enjoy using it. It's not bad at all means so if you really don't want a wired, give it a go. It's a banger either way, I'm just saying from my personal experience if the v2 version knocks the weight down, it's #1 mouse of all time.

I’m 19x10 relaxed claw tilt and OP1 8k is essentially my endgame. Love how narrow it is.

Almost any of these top mice are going to have similar latency that won’t have an effect in game or be noticeable unless there’s an outlier bad implementation. I usually look at clicks, coating and shape as my top three. Top 5 for me are: 1) OP1 8k 2) VV3 3) Maya X 4) Scyrox V8 5) Beast X Max Top 5 video on my channel in flair. Comes down to what I use the most/perform the best with. Very subjective for me.

My theory of aiming basically comes down to use the narrowest grip with mouse you can with it becoming uncomfortable or fatigued. So the OP1 is narrow at the grip width and front and is super comfortable for me. Also the clicks legit feel more responsive than any other mouse I’ve ever used.

Op1 8k is a good choice, if you want a similar shape the hitscan hyperlight

Honestly, for wired mice nowadays, the absolute best you can get are the OP1 8k and the XM2 8k. The Razer Deathadder v3 is pretty good too I've heard, but it depends on your preferred grip and your hand size though.

i’ve had that happen with my old mice (razer naga x) and so i just switched to the op1 8k and i’ve been enjoying it so far (i miss the 12 side buttons though)

i’m not a mouse expert so maybe listen to the other people here but i do play a lot of CS. imo the tried and true (but expensive) is the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 Wireless. pretty sure this is the actual mouse pros use at LAN tournaments, although that isn’t really their choice it’s still a fantastic mouse. there’s also an ergonomic “Dex” option. for a more affordable wired mouse (but with just as good if not BETTER performance) i’d recommend the OP1 8K, although be aware that a V2 has been announced but not released for the OP1.

i’m not a mouse expert so maybe listen to the other people here but i do play a lot of CS. imo the tried and true (but expensive) is the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 Wireless. pretty sure this is the actual mouse pros use at LAN tournaments, although that isn’t really their choice it’s still a fantastic mouse. there’s also an ergonomic “Dex” option. for a more affordable wired mouse (but with just as good if not BETTER performance) i’d recommend the OP1 8K, although be aware that a V2 has been announced but not released for the OP1.

The op1 8k? Mine were pretty light but I'm returning mine because I like wireless more

Maybe I'll try it for shits, I just wish it wasn't clear purple. Looks like I can get it on Amazon so I'll return it if I don't like it

Yeah that's all in your head. I perform better with my OP1we than any mouse. I perform exactly the same with my OP1we as I do with my op1 8k, maybe even better because no cable. I'm actually going to return my 8k

YES! I've noticed everything here you're talking about, mice less responsive when lower in battery, that "floating" you describe with them in general, which I can tell disappears when plugged in. I'm using the OP18K now and I can genuinely feel the difference with speed mode on Vs off (for clarification I play with it on for left click and off on right click for more aim consistency when I do switch mice) I'm not saying it's night and day, it's very subtle and I fully agree that the majority of people won't be able to notice any difference at all, but I guess some people are just hypersensitive to miniscule changes, humans are actually incredibly good at noticing when something "feels" different no matter how small when they get used to something

It's only problem on razer's deathadder v3 pro and viper v2 pro and they probably fixed it in new versions. If you still have gwarannty you can do rma. If you want new mouse i reccomend you endgame gear xm2 8k or op1 8k if wired. If wireless there's many options, if you liked viper v2 pro i reccomend you viper v3 pro.

Honestly, op1 8k if you mod the cable might be the best thing there is right now. Edit: https://youtu.be/ckqY5sRFMKw?si=RRgJDaXm2yicTrl2 I personally use the scyrox v8 cause the shape is quite similar, it’s wireless, sub-40g and has 4K polling, have a look at that

My hands are same size, op1 is wayyy too small. Your mileage may vary.

Simple, cheap, S tier performance. Agree

The non pro 500x500 Saturn is like $15 at LGG, which is a very solid value imo, which leaves a lot of budget for the mouse. Just looking at Endgame you could get an OP1 8k if you don't mind the wire or a XM2we if you do. Mice preference is mostly dictated by your specific grip style and hand size so you sort of have to narrow it down a bit. Scryox V8 is also a good budget option but a bit lower profile and narrower than what you might be expecting if you are coming from something like an ergo. I remember seeing GPX superlights (the original not v2) go as low as $80 at some places. Some people really like the GPX shape and at that price point it could make sense.

get op1 8k because you can repair anything pretty easily and build quality is great. probably don't get if you have over 11cm wide hands

i have op1 8k and xm2 8k, 19 x 10 hands too. i feel like you can have a wider range of grips on the op1 8k due to the straight sides, i really don't find it too small to the point where i get hand cramps.

is there an option for you to buy both on amazon and return the one you don't like as much? I bought the xm2 first but got too curious and wanted to try the op1 and ended up preferring how it felt in my hand

only thing i can suggest is buy the op1 on amazon and return if you don't prefer it. i think the op1 really benefits from relaxed claw, it feels very nimble and you can grip with your side fingers closer to the top of the mouse if it does feel a bit too narrow at the waist. honestly feels like it fits my hand like a glove.

I wanted to see if any of these can drag click super well because I assume most of them have the debounce time feature

Ik ik, but I questioned it because I play both FPS games and minecraft. Like the OP1 8k was focused for FPS but it can drag click super well tho

If you're willing to go outside of your comfort zone with a different brand I'd try the OP1 8k from endgame gear, even though it's wired it's seriously an amazing mouse. But if you're trying to stick with those brands then for Logitech I'd go with a superlight, even the first generation still holds up well today. And for Razer I love the Deathadder v3 as I grew up with that shape, but if you want a symmetrical mouse then a Viper V3

ulx small tfue/xlite crazylight/op1 8k + raiden mid

I was deciding between the scyrox v8 and the op1 8k, and ended up getting the latter cuz Viscose and boardzy conviced me with their vids on it ngl, but im still curious if i made the wrong choice, tbh the wire doesnt bother much is just there and the clicks and quality and inmaculate, miles ahead of the scyrox v8 Imo.

Doesn't op18k have a switches technology that's crazy low latency

It matters cause seems like at masters people give sensible answers , op1 8k is actually the correct answer The speed switches are an innovation that gives a competitive advantage but nobody knows. I would have bought earlier the op1 8k but in the first review I saw the switches weren't mentioned so I thought it was a gimmick . Those switches revolutionize mice just like hall effect revolutionizes keyboards for fps They will become standard in a few years until everyone else catches on.

Not sure if the sizes of these will be exactly what you're looking for, but EGG OP1 8K and Scyrox V8 are phenomenal mice, especially for the price. The only potential downside of the OP1 for you is that it's wired. However, a lot of people claim that with a cable bungee, it's hardly noticeable. As for the V8, it's hands down one of the best in terms of value to performance. Easily should be a $110+ mouse.

I have both op1 8k and deathadder v3 , now using the op1 just because it's bit better for black ops 6. But it you are not into fps gaming , then deathadder v3 is fine. If you play cod warzone and you do lot of movement the smaller shape is gonna save more space for the mouse to move around. Also you need to upgrade the firmware of op1 8k if you buy it. If you have very large hands then but xm2

Ok for that grip don't buy op1 8k , it's too small. But deathadder v3 it's gonna feel fire. In my area it's really affordable on sales.

Bro 🤣🤣🤣, my deathadder v3 is cooked after almost 2.5 months of usage 🤣🤣🤣, the usb disconnects automatically. I had to clean install windows for a purpose. It's not a driver or razer software side issue. The physical cable got damaged , i use it to play call of duty black ops 6 🤣. A mouse lasting 2.5 years would be a dream to me. I got it on sale from Amazon, might be some shit unit. But i would suggest to buy something else. Don't buy op1 8k also. Just get some wireless mouse like VXE mad r major , i personally ordered atk f1 extreme. Time to go wireless finally. Fuck the wire. 👍😆😆🤣

The answer you're looking for is the Endgame Gear OP18K https://youtu.be/JUadU6eS_HQ?si=5IvHUL_91d25S0hY

Oh sorry, i thought 150 was your budget my bad.  Mchose L7, OP1 8K, ATK F1 ext. If you like bigger mice. Madlions mad g, vxe mad r, eweadn s9/atk x1 For cloth mousepad there are a lot of good options from matrova, infinitymice, meow gaming gear, and esport tiger. Just pick the speed pad option from these companies.

Great, If you want more deeper palm contact go with scyrox. L7 and F1 if you want less palm contact and more of fingers mobility. For OP1 it just the thinness of it that will decide whether you like it or not, and because it's thin the hump should be able to snug into your palm easily

DAv3 easy choice for palm claw OP1 is too thin for normal size hands Latency difference between these mice are like sub 1 ms, don't make your decision due to a spec sheet in this case

[https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=razer-deathadder-v2-vs.-endgame-gear-op1-8k](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=razer-deathadder-v2-vs.-endgame-gear-op1-8k) Deathadder is way bigger, you can maybe get 3d model of op1-8k and test it before buying it, if you have a friend with 3d printer materials will cost $1-2 to print dummy mouse to test the shape. I would personally get op18k between those 2, but if I was not limited to those 2, there is way better options, not sure why you want just wired.

op1 8k is great, probably the best wired option on the market spec wise. Wireless mice nowadays last easily 1weeks+ with heavy use so It’s not an issue for me, for example I use wired headset (dt990) cuz wireless one last 1 day or so, so it’s annoying to charge them, but then my mice lasts more than a week easily and worst case scenario I will plug it for half an hour and it will be fine. I personally use gpx superlight (heavily moded, pretty much everything is changed besides the top shell and main pcb and stock beast x max.

Hello, I was in the same boat as you around 4 years ago. Wanted to keep it cheap, and did not care about rgb. I personally found that while keyboard is not insanely important. Mousepad, mouse, and monitor hz is the number 1 things preventing your skill in whatever fps game you play. I say if you invest in a solid mouse (ideally above $30) you can use that mouse for however many years you would like assuming you researched the truth of it. I gravitated towards the Glorious Model O 4 years ago, and just recently ordered the Op1 8k (easily one of the best mouse on the market). As for keyboard I am not familiar, I went ahead and purchased an easy mechanical keyboard. If I were to suggest, Op1 8k, but that is at $85.

I will always recommend the Endgame Gear OP18k (or the OP1w 4k if you simply cannot fathom using a wired mouse), or the WLMouse Beast X Mini. Cannot go wrong between these two. I also love my Razer Viper Mini SE, but I'd never in a million years recommend it, purely due to its cost and lack of availability.

What hand size works best for this I got small ahhhhh hands around 17.78-18cm long x 9.5-10cm wide and I like narrow ahhhh nice like the Finalmouse ULX competition cheetah, Zowie ZA13-DW and Endgame Gear OP18K and find the Zowie ZA13-DW too long so I’m pretty much looking for a shorter Zowie ZA13-DW with same width and shorter length so it’s short enough I can aggressively clawgrip it and that would be perfect for endgame.

The op1 8k is very narrow across the center

I totally didn't realize you had the op1we that's my bad You might actually be cooked. I don't think those clicks are savable. You should get the op18k though - that mouse is what I was talking about and is goated.

Thank god I got attached to the OP1 shape, I had the same issue of 27 mice. * OP1 8K White + Corepads * OP1w v2 4K Dark Frost * OP1we White * XM1r Dark Frost * Starlight Pro TenZ Small + Tiger ICE * HSK Plus Lite Pink * Hati S Ace Wireless + Corepads * Hati S Plus 4K Transparent Black * Hati S Plus 4K White + Obsidian Dots * Hati S Plus Classic + Ghostglide Dots * HTX 4K Ruby Red + Obsidian Dots * Lamzu Atlantis Mini * Logitech G Pro Superlight White * Pulsar X2 Super Clear Mini * Pulsar X2H Mini Black * Pulsar Xlite Mini Black + Corepads + Grips * Pulsar Xlite V2 Red * Razer Orochi V2 White + Superglides * Razer Viper Mini + Corepads * Sprime PM1 * Vaxee NP-01S Blue Wireless + BTL Grips * Vaxee NP-01S White * Vaxee Outset AX Funspark * Vaxee XE White * Xtrfy MZ1 + Corepads * Zowie EC2-A + Corepads * Zowie ZA13-C + Corepads

I use the grips it comes with the OP1 and it’s perfect for me.

The OP18k is literally 3x the price, has useless 8k and barely better click latency than ur "cheap Chinese mouse" sounds like you're the one listening to glazers

It sounds like you want an op18k which is actually a little more of a claw grip mouse for smaller hands. But, for bigger hands, it’s sufficient for finger grip. You’re going to get the highest quality mouse possible for $80; even less if you get your mice secondhand at r/MouseMarket. I have the mouse—it’s phenomenal. It’s one of the few mice where there is a noticeably better sensor implementation. Also, arguably the best buttons on the market. In regard to your specific mouse choices, I’m pretty sure most mice have optical switches at this point im not sure about optical scroll. Every mouse pretty much has rubberized coating also so I don’t think that’s a hill to die on. Especially since most rubberized coating is quite good. Your melting side problem only happens on a couple of shoddier mice like the g pro superlight’s so I wouldn’t worry about it too much. Another mouse I’d recommend is an x2 crazylight for a dedicated fingertip mouse. It’s probably pulsar’s best mouse. Really light, excellent build quality, solid sensor implementation and just overall rock solid. It’s a pretty safe choice. I like my x2 crazylight a lot. If I fingertip gripped more often, it would be my go-to mouse. The Hitscan hyperlight is also a great choice. I love that mouse. I actually use it as a claw shape bcuz my hands are pretty small. It’s a Viper V3 clone that’s small and it’s pretty damn good. Ideal for fingertip if your hands are big like yours. Let me know if you have questions brother.

The Ninjutso Sora v2 is a premier small mouse claw shape. It’s a similar size to the x2 but slightly bigger. The XM2 is a fantastic claw shape but bigger and wider. The OP18k is a top tier mouse that’s still on the small side. Any of those three mice are great. All those mice are pretty fantastic tho EGG’s quality is impossible to match. I’m personally loving the Sora as a claw shape for small hands.

OP1 8K for sure

I also use back ftip grip but I don’t find op18k comfortable as my finger keep slipping from the back to the front. Did you grip tape it as well?

Once i aplied the grip tape that came in the box of my op1 8k, it teared the coating right off. My experiemce with the rma has been p bad too, as i ordered from another country and have been waiting for an answer for 8 days. If qc is good, EGG delivers good results from what people say, but cant say my experience has been good by any means.

The op1 is wayyy smaller than the Dav3 and dav2, and you have 19x10 hands. The op1 8k has the best latency but it’s nothing that should be the reason why you pick it over the other. The DeathAdder v3 is slightly different from the original DeathAdder but it’s still a pretty good mouse and it also has the bigger shape compared to the op1

I have 20x10 hands and the op1 is a nice shape to use but as much as I tried getting used to it, it’ll always lack the size I needed to have consistent stability

Yeah it’s the same specs as the op1 8k. It’s one of my favorite claw grip mice, one thing that I have to say is the back width of the mouse can restrict your movement sometimes, it doesn’t look very big on paper but it fills up your palms pretty well. I have the xm2w which is just the wireless version of the xm2

We definitely are at peak. The sensors are so good to the point where you can’t even tell the difference with just the naked human eye. A mouse and more to come eventually where you can adjust the increments of your dpi by just 1 dpi at a time. Mice weighing below 40 grams with polling rates high enough it drains the heck out of your battery or it’ll cause heavy stutters, especially if it’s not high polling rate friendly. The clicks on all the mice I’ve tried, GPX 2, viper v3 pro, beastx max, and Lamzu Atlantis…. They all felt the same latency wise. The only mice where I’ve clicked and felt like the quickness of its latency was the xm2w 4k and op1 8k. Even zowies mice dw series clicks feel just about the same as any other new release latency wise even though it’s higher than normal on paper. But guess what, that’s on paper and we aren’t computers lol. The race to see who’s mice are better than the other are fun but in reality… something we don’t want to admit is they are all basically the same thing but with different shapes and different weights. It all comes down to how it’s implemented. It’s crazy to hear we live in a day that people legitimately call 60 gram mice heavy. If it continues they’ll soon start calling mice 50 grams heavy lol

Game: EFT Mouse: Op18k Skates: Obsidian dots Mousepad: Hayate Otsu Soft XL Keyboard: Custom Wooting60 IEM: HyperX Cloud2 Monitor: XL2546K

I also has a back ftip grip as you and would recommend the OP18k or if you don't mind the goofball texture, the HTX Mini

Op1 8k. Best mouse I have ever used and funnily enough I switch from an Atlantis mini.

Op1 8k is the best mouse I have ever used and it's not even close.

People that recommend the Viper Mini either havent tried it themselves or dont know better, that cable is stiff, thick so its not even compatible with mouse bungees I wouldn't subject a friend to that. The minimum I'd pay for a wired mouse with an actually good cable is around 2k for the Wired Razer and Pulsar options (Razer Deathadder V3 and Pulsar X2/X2H/Xlite Wired) and max at 3k-4k for the 8k options from Endgame Gear with good wired cables as well (OP1 8k and XM2 8k) at 1k the only reasonable option is VXE R1, whatever version you can get (avoid pro max, switches suck)

I have quite long hands but I also claw grip my mice. I absolutely love the OP1 8K Purple Frost. Using it on a Razer Atlas mousepad with a bungee. Have not tried the Scyrox V8 yet, might look into that thanks to your and others reviews on it. Another one I am interested in that I haven't seen much on yet is the Pwnage Trinity CF.

I did not like the Viper v2 pro, will I like this mouse? Are they alike at all? I have the op1 8k and I like it but it's a bit too narrow

Ec series, da v3 pro, I was getting hand cramps with an op18k but thought if I had a wide mouse it's feel a lot better so bought xm2we and it's more comfy than the DeathAdder v2 for me even being symmetrical.

Basilisk V3 and G502 hero are pretty large and pretty heavy, not really suited to FPS games or his hand size. Endgame Gear OP1 8k is a great, lightweight, small, well priced wired mouse with amazing performance. Razer Deathadder V3 is also a great mouse but is a bit on the larger side with a more ergonomic shape. Zowie EC3-C is getting a little old but is very well built, its shape is tried and tested. Pulsar X2H is small (Mini being smaller too) is a decent mouse but I would recommend away from Pulsar for quality issues. Scyrox V8 is VERY light and very popular (And you'll likely not find it in stock).

Usually I don’t recommend the OP1 8k because it’s so small, but your hand size makes you an actually good candidate.

Op1 8k and Sora v2

Ordered one when it was on sale, gotta wait like 2 weeks tho.

https://preview.redd.it/tiftcm3jwl0e1.jpg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41b28701a5d8e770c9d107edc89a2f4eb9dd0a72 Review of the OP18k Gaming Mouse Games Played: Valorant, Kovaaks Mouse Skates Used: TJ Exclusives - Plastix Xact  Build Quality: The build quality of the OP1 8k is impressive and closely matches that of the renowned XM1R. Given my experience with the XM1R, which has a fantastic build, I expected the OP1 8k to meet a similar standard, and I wasn’t disappointed. The mouse feels incredibly sturdy in hand, exhibiting zero flex even when applying considerable pressure. I tested its resilience by squeezing it as firmly as possible, and it held up perfectly—no creaks, rattles, or structural weaknesses. The attention to build quality here shows EndGameGear’s  commitment to delivering a durable and dependable mouse, capable of withstanding the demands of intense gameplay. The OP18k is indeed built like a tank, and I’m confident it would hold up well over extended use, even with the wear and tear typical of competitive gaming. Clicks: The OP1 8k’s click experience is one of its standout features. After using the G Pro Superlight 2, which has noticeably heavier clicks, the OP1 8k’s lighter, tactile clicks felt like a breath of fresh air. Each click is responsive, snappy, and easy to spam during fast-paced gameplay—ideal for games like Valorant, where rapid and precise clicks are essential. The feedback is consistent and reliable, enhancing the feeling of control over every action. The side buttons are also of excellent quality, delivering just the right amount of resistance and a solid, responsive feel. It’s clear that EndGameGear has carefully tuned the clicks on this model to meet the needs of competitive players who prioritize responsiveness and consistency. Cord: As someone who has a habit of customizing the cords on my wired mice, I’m used to upgrading them with Lethal Cables for a smoother, more flexible feel, as I did with the XM1 and Zowie S2. However, the OP1 8k surprised me; when paired with the Vaxee Oryza bungee, it performed exceptionally well without modification. The cord is flexible enough to be unobtrusive, and the bungee keeps it out of the way, giving a near-wireless feel. Without the Oryza bungee, I might still consider an upgrade to improve maneuverability, but for those with a quality bungee setup, I doubt cord modifications will be necessary. Shape: As someone who uses an aggressive claw grip, I found the OP1 8k’s shape very well-suited to my playstyle. The wide backside offers a secure, locked-in feeling, allowing for stability and control, while the narrowed midsection and slim top enhance precision. This design lets me feel pinpoint accuracy with every shot, which is crucial in games requiring fast reflexes and accuracy. The mouse’s design feels tailored to a claw grip, allowing me to maintain control comfortably over long gaming sessions. For players with similar grip styles, the OP1 8k’s shape will likely feel natural and optimized for control. Scroll Wheel: The scroll wheel on the OP1 8k has a distinctly classic feel, with a level of resistance and defined hitches that may appeal to some players. It’s reminiscent of older, more tactile scroll wheels, with each step feeling quite pronounced. For my personal taste, however, the scroll wheel is a bit too stiff, making quick scrolling movements feel somewhat resistant. This is one aspect of the mouse that might benefit from a more modern, smoother design, though for players who prefer that tactile feedback, this could be a plus. Software: The OP1 8k’s software is as straightforward as it gets. While some might see the minimalistic interface as too simplistic, I found the no-frills design refreshing and functional. It provides everything necessary to configure the mouse without unnecessary clutter. I personally enjoyed the simplicity, as it allowed me to jump straight into gameplay without spending too much time in setup. Conclusion: Overall, the OP1 8k has quickly secured a place as my main gaming mouse. Its excellent build quality, light and responsive clicks, optimized shape, and reliable performance make it an outstanding choice for competitive gaming. While I found the scroll wheel a bit too stiff for my liking, it’s a small drawback compared to the mouse’s overall strengths. I’d highly recommend the OP1 8k to players looking for a compact, durable, and high-performing mouse that caters to claw-grip users. 

op18k with a lethal cable mod and any feet you like

Recently bought the S2-DW because I used to love the wired S2 but I couldn't get used to the weight. I'm maining the OP1 8K again. It's too damn good!

Yeah, I personally prefer the OP1W 4k since there's no reason for 8k polling since MC can't handle it and I prefer wireless. Op1 8k is great too. Also good to note that the xm2w 4k is also a solid option, just know which shape you prefer. Edit: I should've mentioned this but the OP1W and such mice are actually designed to be pro FPS mice and are lightweight. Personally I'd recommend using pulsar super grip tape with them, which makes it incredibly easy to drag click. I'm master in voltaic Kovaaks benchmarks with this mouse and can also get 20-40 CPS butterflying and drag clicking respectively.

no idea why youre locked in to those 2 brands. endgame gear makes the op1 8k and the xm2 8k, both are symmetrical and the wired versions come in under $90. aside from initial setup you can get rid of the software too because it saves to the mouse. also you wont notice the wire, its that good. as others have mentioned the deathadder also comes in a wired version under $80, but it isnt symmetrical

Op1 8K is great but also kinda small for me but Xm2 8K would be in consideration if I was looking to buy a new mouse at the moment. I prefer wired simply because I don't have to worry about the battery and charging. It's always ready to go when I need it. Cable doesn't bother me because these higher end wired mice have great lightweight cables as well but still some people hate it and for them a bungee is always an option.

I go between the op1 8k and the L7 ultra. I prefer the L7 at the moment, the added lightness and wireless is doing it for me right now. Both great mice though.

I have the op1 8k and original g203.  Both has gotten double click but its fixable and i have fixed it on both. Op1 give me scroll error at 8 months of use, so you are not safe with it.

Top 3 for me me , GPX 2C , EC3-DW and OP1-8K all others are collecting dust at the moment .

Op1 is really the best mouse ever, wire can be annoying for competitive though

well, I\`m not a professional reviewer, just like to be informed. But latency for the sensors is almost a non-issue nowadays with high polling rates. You should look out for polling stability, quality of sensor and wireless implementation, software optimizations... Click latency is important and the choice of actuators installed and how the travel of these buttons affect spammability, or how they impact with unwanted clicks... Shape is of course to be observed but also weight and balance.. Coating and how it affects grip, skates and how they affect glide.. And finally budget, because even the cheaper mice come with top specs if you know where to look really. If I had to pick top 5 they would be: 1- op18k (actually got this one for myself) 2- viper v3 pro (wish I had the dough to pick it up, seems insane) 3- the maya 8k (just perfect in every way, might pick it if shows up in my country) 4- atk f1 extreme (actually picked this one up and it would be my budget pick or lightweight choice) 5- xm2w 4k (might also pick this one up, perfect in everyway, balanced weight mouse)

a few reasons, but it was the one I chose for myself as main mouse. It has a patented end game gear solution for fast clicks that beats every other mouse out there, also it's wired which removes all the wifi mambo jambo that can get wonky and no need to charge a battery. After playing with it my opinion only grew stronger, it's so well built, great skates, coating is just perfect, running mouse tester shows perfect graphs for polling, it's just a perfect mouse all around. 49 grams it's mid weight, so I still picked up a light one for contrast

Closest thing I've used to this is the OP18k from endgame gear. It's not perfect, but they did specifically make their shape for this purpose.

I just switched from the op1 8k to the x2 crazylight mini for that reason. Op1 8k was my favourite mouse, no charging and easy modding but I just couldn’t get used to the shape after a year with fingertip grip. Have bad pain in pinky and ring finger and it just got worse. So far the crazylight is working for me and I can play without the pain so far. It is best to find another mouse before you can end up with rsi like my fingers it can take months to heal.

The op18k has easily swappable switches as well, its designed around being able to get inside and swap them. So worth looking into

As someone with the same hand dimensions as you and owns both mice you have listed, I highly recommend both but my honest answer is that you should get both and return whichever you do not like the most. I use both on my desk because they are both excellent but some games are better on one over the other.

OP1 8K and Artisan Zero mid

i main ulx competition small and op18k , my grip is hybrid ftip/ claw (5 points of contact with my fingers and 1 with the right side of my palm only making a "point") . i reallllyyy loved op18k for claw but the ulx is better for micro ajustements with ftip. it all comes to preference but id rather buy the op18k since the prince is 3x cheaper.. for claw you can see all egg mouses op1 , xm2 are very famous

My hand is 18.5\*10cm and using a relaxed claw grip, I'm satisfied with my Incott G23, which is a GPX clone, I think you can get it under $55 on Choice Day on Aliexpress. The other one that I used for FPS gaming is OP1 8K, but it's out of your budget and is a wired mouse. I think you can provide your location and let people in your country give advice.

Razer Deathadder v3 hyperspeed is small, sleek, lightweight and all performance. no RGB. Others I’d recommend as others mentioned is Ninjutso Sora V2, Hitscan Hyperlight and Endgame OP1

there’s good Chinese brands out there I have a ATK F1 Extreme Blazing Sky (Leviatan edition) and Endgame OP1 8k and I’m loving em. those brands have better QC

Definitely get the OP18k

I have 18cm x 9cm and tried a lot of mice Attack shark R6 fantastic shape for me. Their cable is really bad and causes stutters. OP18K shape is also good, cable isn’t much of an issue. ULX small good shape but too small for me ULX medium great shape very versatile GPX too big DAV3 too big NP-01S good shape but too heavy NP-01 a bit large but safe for palm.. but too heavy EC-3CW or whatever it’s called very good size, good fit but I hate ergo so…. I think you will like the ULX small the most… try the Attack Shark R6 too it’s relatively cheap and return on Amazon is easy

i second this, i went from the GPro Superlight to OP1 8K got myself a mouse bungee with it. dont even feel the wire

I'm using op1 8k as most people recommend me

My current main coming from the wired Cobra. Although I slightly prefer the hump placement on the Cobra, the OP1 8k was a nice little upgrade. Slightly lighter, better sensor, cable, feet, click feel and scroll wheel (hopefully no encoder issues in the long run) and no effing synapse running in the background!

I've had that happen to the cobra and two viper minis... OP1's scroll has been solid so far.

its the op1 8k but better there I saved you some time

ergo g403 shape for those games, 30 recent mice i got i interchanged them with aim trainers and i get the best scores with certain scenarios on certain mice, mm711, op18k xm28k and g403 i was best with but g403 for tac was immo3 with that one. im just getting the terra pro and calling it a day

OP1 8k or op1 w 4k have similar shape to scyrox v8 and are great quality mice

I was comparing the Scyrox to the OP18K as they have a similar shape. The back bump on the Scyrox is a little taller for sure. But I haven’t tried the Sora so I couldn’t speak on the shape of that mouse.

With the same hand size I alternate between the VXE MAD R MAJOR , Op1 8k and the X2 Crazy light with the same grip as you. All 3 come with grip tape which I use cause I also have sweaty hands.

I would say in no particular order: - Orbital Pathfinder cause it has so much customisation for how I'm feeling on any given day. Don't feel like your usual claw grip is comfortable? No worries tear it apart and make an entirely different mouse out of the provided parts within 30 seconds - OP1 8k. Love this mouse it feels so snappy and so instant and a lot of my high scores on aim trainers have been set with the mouse however I cannot ever feel comfortable with it no matter the grip. I think it might be marginally too thin and too small but I put up with it cause it just seems to work - hitscan hyperlight. It's just a small, light weight well built, good click feel mouse with low click and sensor latency that just works. Fantastic smaller alternative if you still want a safeish shape that can be used with a variety of grip styles Runner up - VXE Mad R Major - feels quite similar to OP1 just wider at the front and less of a pronounced hump, no where near the same build quality but still similar in scores in game when testing. Just don't think it will be as durable long term but for how cheap it is I am not complaining

although it might be too slow I recommend the LGG Saturn pro to everyone. Its got a similar build quality to artisan and uses the same Poron Base. It's very marginally slower than a Zero (to me, as I know some people say Zero is much faster). Most of my high scores on aimlabs and kovaacs have been set with this mousepad. Alternatively you can go for an artisan Zero Yako Edition as the printing for the graphic smooths out completely the roughness that the zero is known for. I use a sleeve on all pads (except for zero and type 99) but I can use a sleeve on my Yako zero and have 0 issues it's super smooth. Only downside is the graphic as I don't love anime let alone anime girls with their thighs out lmao

Endgame gear op1 nice small mouse with hotswap feature Razer cobra decent small mouse with optical switch

Endgame gear their 8k models have a basic software

Op1 and dav3 best value, the haste core is not

Op1 is really good

Zowie mice and endgame gear op18k, XM2 8k and the wireless version, also vaxee mice

Op18k or xm2 8k

Different shapes and different sizes they're both good. If you have small hands get the op18k if you have medium size hands get the XM2 8k.

For fingertip I recommend the op18k, fk2-dw, x2 crazy light

Op18k for relaxed claw but for palm I usually recommend an ergonomic mouse like the ec3-c, delux m900 mini, zaopin Z2 mini, xlite v3/v4 mini.

Endgame gear op1 this mouse has a hotspot feature you can change the default switches into. A silent switch.

Op18k is an overall better implemented mouse

I have tried Logitech, razer, Endgame gear, zowie mice and my experience with Logitech the g102 prodigy it's rock solid no issues with the clicks and scroll wheel the rubber scroll wheel deteriorated. Razer the dav2 mini, rvm, Dav3 wired and cobra wired, I had to rma my rvm 7 times knowing it uses a shit encoder my last razer mice are the cobra and dav3 and the quality improved a lot. Endgame gear op1 and zowie are the same they're sturdy but I'll give zowie an upper hand because they use an optical scroll wheel encoder.

Endgame gear op1 8k

Yeah also if you don't mind the cable this mouse is phenomenal

If you are looking for a wired mouse, EndgameGear has some great options. Since you have smaller hands, the OP1 8K is worth checking out. If you are looking for pure value, definitely go for a chinese mouse (VXE R1 lineup, VXE Mad R lineup, ATK F1 lineup, Scyrox V6/V8).

for fingertip grip the L7 for sure. The Mad R is more a full size (X2 clone) where the L7 is closer to a X2 Mini clone. The coating does for sure feel better on the L7 but weight wise they are very similar. If you want fingeritp grip then the L7 is a fantastic choice and specs wise and speed wise one of the best mice on market (wired competes with the op18k and nearly competes with it wireless as well.)

The quality ok the L7 is exceptional. I wouldn't expect you to run into any major issues with it during use. Op18k is more narrow i have it as well, build quality on it is just as good, it can be fingertiped but is better for claw by far.

I have a more updated list here: * Incott Ghero Pro: Solid Mouse that feels like a GPX Ergo (or NP-01 Clone) and is extremely solidly build while staying price wise at 50$ * VGN Dragonfly F1: Solid orignial shape with a larger rear hump on the end that curves more inwards before coming out at the front, very safe shape at 46$ * ATK Blazing Sky F1: Shaped akin to a Sora V2 it's got a much larger rear hump with substantial curves as it comes into the front while going thinner towards it with lowered clicks. Is 38g and has a 3950 sensor but is usually a full 70$ * Darmoshark M3S: Solid Viper styled shape with those same bell curves, usually around 40$ * Zaopin Z2: Solid ergo light with a much smaller ergo feel yet still has a nice rounded bump and curve to it for the ergo feel at 50$ * Endgame Gear OP1 Wired: This is what a lot of mice are based on as EGG has some of the better mice on market in terms of quality and built and software. It's one of the best mice you can buy. It is wired but if you don't care about 4k or 8k it's perfectly fine at 45$ * VXE R1: Nearly identical to the Pulsar X2V2 it's got a super solid feel and the pro model has a better coating and overall well implemented sensor. Considered the king of the budgets it's 50$ for the Pro and as low as 20$ for not pro. * VXE Mad R: Identical to the mouse above in shape its another X2V2 clone perfect at 38g great for all grip styles, the Major verision has a 3950 sensor and is 45$ for normal, 63$ for Major, if you can grab this over the normal R1. * Incott HPC02M: is a X2 clone with supersolid build quality and the ability to swap the switches with ease. 55$ * PureTrak Valor: Clone of the GPX but with 3395 and USB-C that usually sells for sub 50$ * Incott G23: GPX clone with hotswappable switches at 50$ * Phlyina S450: HTS+ Clone with solid build quality and a really good mouse. They are working on a 38g version and have a 4k version around 40-50$ * Scyrox V8: Sora V2 clone at 38g with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 70$ * Attack Shark R6: Another Sora V2 Clone with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 50$. * ATK Blazing Sky X1: Viper V3 clone with 3950 and solid build quality right at the 70$ price range. * Incott G24: Zowie EC2 Clone that's hotswap and solid weight can be found for 70$ * Mchose L7: 38g with a shape somewhere between the Lamzu Atlantis and X2V2. It has flatter sides but still a larger rear curve to lock in slightly better than something like the Mad R while still feeling very premium. Basic model has 3395 for 45$ and pro is closer to 60$ for 3950. * Lethal LA-1: Basically a larger OP1. Same kind of curves but a larger overall feel, due to having some very small issues with the batch and to compete with budget mice it can now be found for 30$. * Razer Viper V3 Hyperspeed: While a bit heavier than most at 83g and using a AA battery, It still boasts a solid sensor and performance with a shape that people adore for 70$ * Scyrox V8 and V6: solid Sora clone and HTS+ clone both at around 40g with full 8k and solid internals. Very good overall and some of the best budget out there. 70$

We have the same hand size and roughly same grip. While that is how your hand rests do you end up swapping to palm as you play? If so then you grip like me and I have about 5 mice i could reccomend that I personally use a ton. OP18K: Larger rear hump that thins out towards the front with flat sides for easily adjusting grips or getting solid finger placements. Lethal LA-1: Same shape as OP1 but a little larger with slightly easier curves and comfort grooves on the clicks. Gives a solid locked in feeling and is only like 30$ which is a really good price. Mchose L7: For the price this mouse is insane. Fairly small but has just the fight curves on the side to lock you in but not quite force a grip like a Lamzu Atlantis or Scyrox V8 would. Glorious Model D 2 Pro: EC2 Clone thats a very comfy ergo. It has spinout issues and I dont reccomend glorious but its solid for me. Razer Viper V3 Pro: Solid hourglass like shape that's got a very good middle hump to really lock you in with however you want to grip it. Pulsar TenZ: Nice rear hump and higher clicks let's me get a full feeling palm with a light claw hybrid which feels fantastic to me. Scyrox V6: Solid hourglass but smaller and harsher curves with a splid middle hump to allow fantastic grip and really lock you in, probably one of the best mice i own. Pathfinder: Allows innumerable styles and grips to be tried and used, Great for any grip style ever or dialing in one you like off its changeable sides and rear hump.

I have an 80he and the OP1 XM1. If you have small hands go with OP1 8k. Great mice if you like wired like me.  

I have an 80he and the OP1 XM1. If you have small hands go with OP1 8k. Great mice if you like wired like me.  

Not sure "nice in your hand" is right, just the shape you aim best with. The Sora feels way better in my hand than the OP18k, but my tracking is far better with the OP18k for example. But yeh, finding the shape you aim best with is the biggest thing you can do, technical specs haven't really mattered in a decade.

Yea I think so. A lot of mice go into power saving mode when they start to lose battery. I think there is still a slight floating feeling with wireless mice especially if you dont have the dongle super close. This is only comparing back to back though. some of the highest caliber esports players use wireless so im sure the tech is fine. its definitely a feeling thing though do what works for you! if you havent tried the xm2 or op1 8k from End game gear id definitely give it a shot. one of the only mice that is noticeable more responsive imo though the shapes dont work for me

Ooo okay, had a large conflict with this one. I thought the shapes were so similar that i would be able to switch between them interchangeably. But its not the case, the np-01 feels a lot more ergo to me, the curve on the right side is a lot deeper. The rear of the mouse feels wider and more rounded. So basically even if I felt like i was doing the same grip on the OP1 as the NP-01s I simply was not. I think that the OP1 has a lower front button height as well which puts your hands/fingers in different positions. Both great mice but on most days I prefer the NP-01s

OP1 8K and just got an Aqua Control +

OP1 8k is very palmable imo, you could try that.

Op1 8k and aqua control +

Endgame gear xm2 8k or endgame gear OP1 8k. Do you know your hand size? I have 19x10 hands and my xm2 8k is perfect

I would look at the xm2 8k then. The op1 is pretty small. Either way both of these mice are one of the fastest mice you can buy atm and they’re pretty cheap because of them being wired. I will say though the xm2 was expensive on Amazon for some reason. I saved like $50 canadian buying off of desk hero instead. Not sure if it would be the same for you.

G pro super light, I prefer the V1. I'm sure people won't agree, but it's a standout performer with the best shape available imo. I've had easily 30+ mice and I always go back to it. Big shouts to the fantech Helios pro S, hitscan hyperlight and op1 8k too.

You're right, it's true endgame for me. Funnily enough I've been using the hyperlight which is basically the atk F1 if I remember right for the last few days. Great mouse and I really enjoy it, but it just doesn't offer the support the g pro does. I think I prefer it over the op1

I wish I liked the shape. It's too narrow for me, feels like I can't grip it securely and that it's gonna slip out of my hand with every movement.

Damn, that's an old comment lmao. I've actually returned the Ghero since I was noticeably worse in FPS games with it, and I actually still use and really like the OP1 now, contrary to my previous comment about it being too narrow. I've since picked up a few other mice. I'm really liking the ATK X1 Ultimate, and the Hitscan Hyperlight as well.

i have 20x10cm hands and find the op1 to be very comfortable having used the za13 for years prior. larger mice just feel less maneuverable, in my experience.

Remove every single one except the op1 and it becomes endgame(literally)

Had various mice up to a G Pro but bought a OP1 8k wired since my G Pro had issues. Boy this mouse is good. Maybe it is just in my head but I feel like I hit way more shots. Also love the software. Cut down to the absolute minimum.

Bro I spend 7.5k on my mouse, and 3.2k on my mousepad. It's worth every penny if you're pc is not going to be a bottleneck. I got the OP18K and LGG Saturn from UK.

i mean on the op1 8k the only difference is the LOD and motion sync 8k polling so i agree

For a wired mouse I'm loving my Endgame Gear OP1 8k. It feels great to hold, it's well built, the wire is really nice and barely even noticeable, and the software is basically one interface with like 4 sliders so it's super lightweight and easy to set up. I've had it for about 9 months now and haven't had any issues at all, I fully expect to get multiple years out of it. One thing to note is it's kind of small, it fits my grip great but if you have bigger hands than me or palm grip your mouse it might be too small for you, the company does have bigger mice you could look into though because the build quality is really good.

Dav3 wired if you want to go comfort and ergo route, aiming will be a bit more stable. OP18K if you want the more maneuverable feel in your hand. If you want the best of both worlds and are willing to charge it on occasion I suggest looking into the Dav3 hyperspeed. It’s smaller in the hand so you get both advantages of the mice you mentioned. Best of luck!

More maneuverable = easier micro adjustments in my exp

I went from a viper v2 pro to an op18k really cheap and as long as you buy a good bungie feels amazing to use!

Maining OP1 8K and Maya regular for one mounth, coming from a GPX for past 3 years and oh god this wasn't for palm/claw 18.5x9cm hand

I was also looking for wired mice so I checked some of them out. I had both the OP1 and DAV3 and returned them for exact opposite reasons. OP1 was too small / narrow, got hand cramps after a while. DAV3 was too big, though I was able to handle it, I prefer a medium size. Both have great performance but here are some infos I've noticed: OP1 scrollwheel middle click had double click issues on my unit. Middle click was also a bit too stiff for my taste. DAV3 also had scrollwheel related issues, scrolling up was scratchy, and you could activate the middle click by tilting the wheel slightly to the right. I havent checked it out, but for wired mouse the Asus TUF M4 Air might be a viable option as well. It is cheap and has [great click latency according to Techpowerup.](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-tuf-m4-air/5.html) It has 0.4ms click latency.

Endgame OP1 8k is my go to

Op18k or gpx super light with jade skates on raiden mid.

orrrrr we can try making current offerings bigger like the Maya X (goated mouse btw)? My giant hands can’t fit the tiny OP18k

XE S is one of my current favorites. In fact, I specifically bought it since it shared a similar profile as Cloud XS. I switch between it and OP1 8K.

Orbital Pathfinder recently came out, mine is still shipping but I think it might be awesome if you’re unsure of the shape you want to use. Otherwise, I have OP1-8k it is awesome but a little too narrow for me.

Dav3 Wired and OP1 8k are two of the best mice you can get currently. Get the shape you like better.

I would definitely recommend a fingertip grip. I have long fingers too (not that long, my hand is 21x11). The best shape I’ve ever used was WlMouse Ying but the mouse sucked, so I went to Op1 8k. Never looked back. You mileage may vary.

I relate 100% to your explanation about the OP1 lmao. I don’t know why I play well with it while still feeling uncomfortable with it in hand…? But I swear I do notice a difference in snappyness. I wonder if this snappy feel is on all the endgame gear mice? Because I might have to try the others then….

Get an op1 8k purple frost, it's pre-binned with lighter switches than the regular op1 8k, which is already lighter than the op1we. Or wait for op1w 4k which should be coming any minute now if you can't stand a wire

I have this exact setup. Op1 8k for fps games, g502 wireless for everything else. I don't think the hero is a good competitor to the basilisk V3 pro tho, you should be looking at the g502x lightspeed. Also neither of these mice have Bluetooth afaik, they both use standard USB receiver, although I don't see why that would be an issue for laptop use. Bluetooth is a terrible technology for mice anyways, feels like ass no matter the implementation

I have a similar grip and large hands. My recs are: viper v3 pro, Xlite v3 size 3, op18k, g pro sl2

OP1 8k. Light silent switches. Feels great, light, solid, no bs, looks aesthetically pleasing. I don't care much for above 2k polling rate as most games don't do well with it and CPU power is better used for more frames :)

OP1 8K purple frost w/ swapped white cable and bungee Artisan Hien navy blue

Probably op18k. Because i have vxe r1 pro & i have little larger hands than you & i also use claw (relaxed) , Even though vxe r1 pro is fantastic mouse i wish it was little bit more narrow. Op18k is narrower than vxe so. If you can find op18k for a 50 get it. But vxe mouse are fantastic every way it just little wide for me.

Went there and ended up with an Endgame Gear OP1 8k (wired). I couldn't be happier with it - Simple, light, no frills, extremely comfortable. They also make a wireless version, the OP1w 4K. I'm guessing by the name that the polling rate may be lower for power saving or something, but I can't tell a difference in tracking between this and my old mouse, which I think had a 4K polling rate. RTings also has *very* extensive mouse testing: https://www.rtings.com/mouse

If you are fine with a wired mouse, the op18k or xm28k are the best you can get. If you need wireless, then I would recommend one of the scryox v6/v8 but the debate is there for pretty much anything.

Anyone that is wanting a great mouse, I recommend Endgame Gear Op1 or Op1 8k (8k polling rate is overkill and requires alot alot of processing power) These mice are affordable on any budget, and the performance you get with them is as good or better than it's competitors. One could argue that it is better than it's competitors in every aspect.

Anyone that is wanting a great mouse, I recommend Endgame Gear Op1 or Op1 8k (8k polling rate is overkill and requires alot alot of processing power) These mice are affordable on any budget, and the performance you get with them is as good or better than it's competitors. One could argue that it is better than it's competitors in every aspect.

I think it's alarming that you never tried the good old ec2. I've tried multiple different newer mice with good internals and different shapes(the last one was op18k), but I always go back to my trusty ec2a from 2017. So comfortable and I'm aiming great in cs2

I personally don’t mind wired. Prefer my op1 8k over most wireless mice. BUT, I also have wireless mice and have happily used them the last 6 years. There’s really no reason to go wired unless you enjoy a shape. And even then most wired mice also have a wireless version.

haven't used any other mouse since buying the op1 8k and i used to collect. it's literally my endgame

Look into the OP1 8k. It's the best performing mouse on the market and costs $75 so it's not exactly budget but it's straight up better than most wireless mice and is incredible in fps games especially. I have one and it's changed everything for me. I can't go back to any other mouse anymore.

It's not even a question bro. If you can afford it it's OP1 8k without a question asked. It's miles ahead of the hyperx. Like comparing them is embarrassing unless it's a budget issue.

I can't tell if you're a troll or not. Why would you get a cheap Chinese mouse over a high quality enthusiast grade mouse that's the best performing mouse on the market? Just close your eyes and buy the op1. You won't regret it.

Bro just look up OP1 8k on YouTube. Tons of reviewers have gone over it. It's built like a tank and won't break for a long ass time. It also has the advantage of having hot swappable switches in m1 and m2 so even if the switches go bad you can replace them yourself without having to replace the whole mouse. Endgame Gear is very good with quality control and if your unit has issues they usually are also good with fixing it.

That's bullshit. Use an OP1 8k before speaking. It's better than any wireless mouse you'll ever use. The cable is like air. You never realize it's there.

Look at my earlier comment, friend. OP1 8k is the way. It's very worth it. Some of the top aimers in the world have switched to using it because of how insanely good it is and it's only $75. Don't waste your time with Chinese mice that will have build quality issues within weeks of getting them.

As someone who tried both Hitscan Hyperlight and very recently op18k (came in yesterday) with 17.5x8.5cm hands, I love the hyperlight a lot. I also own a Sora v2 which felt magical moving on from a gpx2 but upon getting familiar with hitscan hyperlight I'm not so sure whether if I like the backhump mice as much as I thought despite having a pincer claw grip. My flicks feel much faster and free with hyperlight compared to an op18k, probably because of the weight though. I'm considering picking up a pwnage trinity cf next if it arrives in local retailers

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH THAILAND MENTIONED other than that, its no different from the original op18k, other than new sensor i suppose how much did you get it for? since op18k currently goes for 2.6k baht on mouse innovation rn

My only issue is the software for the OP1. The UI looks very basic and limited.

Okay so ive bought this mouse and it does feel good. It is kinda a grease magnet but is very comfy. I'm just confused on which Hz to set the mouse on as I play on a 1440p that's 165hz. I noticed that 8K Hz does make me lag a bit. What's the recommended Hz to set the mouse on?

I'm curious about how to clean the OP1 8K since it attracts fingerprints so easily. I wanted to buy grips for the mouse buttons, but they're currently out of stock on the website. I really dislike seeing fingerprints on my devices, and it can be quite frustrating to see them on the mouse.

Been using the 8k for about a month. At first i thought it was just me but it seems to miss clicks even when browsing. i've tried different settings too. Also the scroll wheel is a bit too slippery for my liking. prefer a more silent click too. I will be returning it.

op18k is by far best option

Op1 w4k wireless or wired op1 8k. Best build quality and performance

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No point going with the R1 if youre going to go wired. It's a solid budget wireless mouse but if you have no intention of going wireless then you're just overpaying for a poor performing wired experience. If you want the best possible performance you can go with the DAV3 or OP18k, both are within budget, I'd recommend the OP1 as the best of the two purely because the DAV3 has a worse cable but both are good enough. However I'm gonna assume you don't have the latest and greatest PC with the fastest CPU ever so it might not be worth getting a high polling rate mouse at all. Higher polling rates cause dropped frames on most systems and even if you only drop a few frames, that still mathematically completely negates any advantage from using the high polling rate in the first place. It's probably worth considering some older models like you mention in the title. You've got 5 or 6 years of 3360/3366/3389 releases and all of those will perform admirably. Just from a quick look you can get something like the G-Wolves SK-S or Cooler Master MM710 for as little as $25. As a random aside I think the Ninjutso Origin One X is an IntelliMouse clone, so if you loved the shape of your old mouse and just want something that works and is slightly more modern, that could be a solid bet. I usually would say avoid the 3335 sensor, but if you find one for a good price and love the shape, it could still be worth considering. Overall I'd say make sure to do your own research as I find people on this sub tend to recommend the flavour of the month mouse far too often, even for use cases that don't suit it. Regardless I hope you find something you enjoy!

There's a difference between likely failing within 1-2 years, and extremely unlikely to fail after >2 years of use. Newer switches are better and more reliable, feel better, last longer etc. Some mice have optical switches which are incredibly unlikely to develop these issues basically ever. I'd look for a $30-$50 mouse from a brand you have never heard of. I have a VXE R1 Pro, which is a basically a clone of the Pulsar X2. Shark Attack X3 is a very similar and super affordable mouse that is on par with $80 name brand mice. If you want a no nonsense corded mouse, the OP1 is a little pricier (like 50$) but is a great mouse as well. All of these mice are better quality than even the best Logitech was putting out only 3-4 years ago. Like keyboards, the competition and quality has skyrocketed in recent years.

Totally forgot about the OP1 8k. It's actually a great mouse and hot swappable is just a bonus.

There's a difference between likely failing within 1-2 years, and extremely unlikely to fail after >2 years of use. Newer switches are better and more reliable, feel better, last longer etc. Some mice have optical switches which are incredibly unlikely to develop these issues basically ever. I'd look for a $30-$50 mouse from a brand you have never heard of. I have a VXE R1 Pro, which is a basically a clone of the Pulsar X2. Shark Attack X3 is a very similar and super affordable mouse that is on par with $80 name brand mice. If you want a no nonsense corded mouse, the OP1 is a little pricier (like 50$) but is a great mouse as well. All of these mice are better quality than even the best Logitech was putting out only 3-4 years ago. Like keyboards, the competition and quality has skyrocketed in recent years.

Totally forgot about the OP1 8k. It's actually a great mouse and hot swappable is just a bonus.

There's a difference between likely failing within 1-2 years, and extremely unlikely to fail after >2 years of use. Newer switches are better and more reliable, feel better, last longer etc. Some mice have optical switches which are incredibly unlikely to develop these issues basically ever. I'd look for a $30-$50 mouse from a brand you have never heard of. I have a VXE R1 Pro, which is a basically a clone of the Pulsar X2. Shark Attack X3 is a very similar and super affordable mouse that is on par with $80 name brand mice. If you want a no nonsense corded mouse, the OP1 is a little pricier (like 50$) but is a great mouse as well. All of these mice are better quality than even the best Logitech was putting out only 3-4 years ago. Like keyboards, the competition and quality has skyrocketed in recent years.

Totally forgot about the OP1 8k. It's actually a great mouse and hot swappable is just a bonus.

Endgame gear Op1 8k is pretty much the best performance and highest quality mouse on the market and it's under $100. It is wired though if that's a deal breaker for you. I think there's a V2 of it at this point but they're virtually the same mouse, so I'd go for whichever you can find for the best price.

r/mousereview might be able to help but there's a lot of enthusiasts there that might recommend niche mice that may or may not be a good fit. You could also check out https://www.rtings.com/mouse for some more mainstream focused recommendations and reviews. Come up with a budget and decide whether you want wired/wireless. Some personal recommendations, though I hate charging so I'm biased towards wires. Wired * Razer Cobra [cheap, small] * Razer Deathadder V3 wired [large ergonomic] * Endgame Gear OP1 8k [small, top of the line performance] * Endgame Gear XM2 8k [larger than the op1, top of the line performance, potential scroll wheel issues?] Wireless * Razer Viper V2 pro [cheaper than the V3, neutral shape] * Razer Viper V3 pro [expensive, neutral shape] * Razer Deathadder V3 pro [expensive, large ergonomic] If you get something cheaper, you could take the extra and grab a decent mousepad if he doesn't have one already, ~15-35ish dollar range for solid options. Arguably just as important as the mouse. I'm a fan of the ESPTIGER mousepads on amazon that sometimes go on sale for 15 bucks, lethal.gg has a lot of good options too.

Are you sure you are using fingertip and palm grip hybrid? You probably are mistaking palm for relaxed claw grip. And you are probably cramping due to size of g305 if this is the case. There are people with relaxed claw + fingertip hybrid grip including me. Mice that works for me have almost flat sides like pulsar x2 or x2h(medium or mini), gpx, or op18k.

Going to bump, op1-8k is awesome, 10/10 I’ve purchased 3 now to do extensive modding tests lol.

Endgame gear said there isn't really a performance difference between the 3395 and the 3950 on the op1 8k purple frost so the main difference should be 0.7mm LOD and motion sync on 8k polling. Aside from the better sensor it does have a dustproof encoder and it comes with the lighter 50-55 kalih gx switches by default. It's basically the op1 8k purple frost except for the encoder and purple shell.

That's because his testing is wrong or the device he's using is garbage. OP1 8k is currently the fastest mouse in the world.

razer mice seem to have a tendency of breaking components like scroll wheel and stuff. endgame's mice are excellent quality wise and their 8k series latency is top of the line

Not lighter but the shape u describe might work well with an endgame gear xm2/Op1

Fingertip can be pretty good when using the OP1. For my experience, it has been amazing, aside from my palm brushing up against the hump accidentally. I am going for the BeastX Mini due to the hump being more centered towards the mouse. I have small hands myself, and I am very excited to try to get it this Christmas

It’s a very good mouse, I just wish they added the front thumb button. I’m too used to having one…

Go to Microcenter and try a couple diff shapes out. Or look online and see what shapes other people like for their style. Claw / fingertip / palm. Check length of your hands you really care. I had a deathadder and just switched to ENDgame Op1. Feels amazing

OP1, XM1. There are rgb versions with a tad more weight if you want that at all, but since you're casually gaming then the base model is fine and you won't need 8k polling.

two different mice. look at the comma. [Op1](https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/op1-series) [Xm1](https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/xm1-series)

Harpe might be a better pick than the rest, OP1 is nice for the shape, my homie has the OP1we paired with the Hone Ace mousepad and holy fuck my wrist might get fucked 😂😂

This is a fun assignment, maybe EGG OP1 for claw and fortnite. Roccat Kone Pro for moba (not really). Rocket Jump Ninja mouse for fingertip.

Yes, you can't go wrong with the basic OP1 model.

I’m currently using a g203 wired mouse (big mistake), after 2-3 years it started to double click alot, and when I scroll it usually goes the opposite direction of what I want. It’s really unusable now so I’m looking for a better and more durable mouse that I can use for years, no double clicking, no scrolling problems, no need for any fancy stuff just a good durable mouse with 2 side buttons for gaming. My budget is around 50 bucks but if the mouse is worth it I can go for more. I’ve been looking around online and found the XM1r to be a pretty sturdy and reliable-looking mouse. But I really don’t know much about mouse so I’m looking forward to hear your suggestions.

Thank you. I’m definitely going with the op1 then since it’s really well praised by most people on this thread, I would love such a durable and quality mouse.

That is good to know, I mainly have an issue with my scroll wheel on my old mouse (it keeps scrolling the wrong way and the middle click works like 50% of the time) so I’m looking for a mouse that can work well for a long time, and alot of people showed me that the op1 is probably the best choice for my budget.

Yeah I’ve just taken a look at it and it seems very nice, this is probably the best one for my budget, might I ask what is the difference between the OP1 and OP1we version other than the wire, since it’s a 30 euro difference so I will probably go with the wired version if it’s the same.

I’m definitely going for the op1 then, I do not mind the wire and actually prefer them tbh. Everyone seem to really recommend it too so it’s probably a no-brainer atp. Thank you for your help.

Oh the scroll wheel is something I really must consider, since my current mouse cannot scroll correctly and clicking the mmb rarely works, it’s really annoying to use. I really hope it’s just a rare case and not a common occurrence. Thank you for the heads up.

I think I’ll go for the op1, Endgame Gear seems to really be reliable in terms of quality from what I’ve heard.

Thanks. I was considering the xm1 first but then people really love and recommend the op1 more, is it a newer mouse compared to xm1? Also I’m looking for a mouse that have good mouse buttons, and mainly a scroll wheel that won’t have any issues since my current mouse scroll is making it unusable (it keeps scrolling the wrong direction and clicking the mmb works only half the time). So for now it seems like op1 is the best fit for my budget.

Yeah guess it’s kinda steering me towards getting an op1 now, I didn’t really understand much about mouse back then but now I’ll probably avoid logitech mouse.

Around 50 dollars is the most comfortable range for me, but if the mouse is really worth it I can try 10 dollars more.

Yep definitely avoiding logitech mouse from now on, from the help I received from this thread, the best mouse for around 50 dollars is the op1 by Endgame Gear. I did some self research and their mouse are very durable and the quality is top notch, so this seems like the best choice if you wanna buy a new mouse.

Endgame gear got you covered. Eighter with the op1 , or the xm2we. I have the second and it's a tank.

Although it's true that mechanical switched develop double clicking, with modern mechanical switches it doesn't happen as quickly as with older mice (like the g203). If you want, the xm2we has optical switches, and doesn't cost more than the op1 8k.

The scroll wheel thingy it's probably the only flaw in some endgame gear mice, they don't use the bests ttc encoders (the thingy necessary for the scroll wheel to do scroll wheel things). As for the exit for the op2 V2, I have no idea for when it will come out, but endgame is not known for releasing stuff on time, so if you want to risk it, wait for the V2, or you can just get one other op1 now. The possibility of the scroll wheel dying again is rather low.

I second the OP1

They do make a ton of mice like that. You need to look for mice that are specifically made for claw grip. Pulsar X2 or X2H is like that. Endgame gear OP1 or XM2 are also like that. Sora v1 , or Vaxee X Sora are also like that. I'm sure there plenty more that I can't think of from the top of my head. The hour glass gives your fingers better leverage to really handle the mouse but yea, if your hands are too big or small for the mouse, it can cause issues. I honestly would say the Logitech GPX has a very very subtle hour glass, that it will probably feel pretty flat on the sides for you, it's one of the safest first mice for a reason. Asus harpe ace if I remember correctly is also pretty flat on the sides, it's shaped like a Logitech GPX but just longer.

I highly recommend checking out Pulsar's options! There's the X2A which will give you 4 side buttons that are programmable. Their wireless options are also very good, without any blatant input lag. The cables are also way nicer than I've seen from Razer or Logitech, I had a Viper mini awhile back, but had to return it because it felt cheap and the cable was so stiff it'd push the mouse on its own. All of their mice have mini versions which have been perfect for my hands, which are pretty small. There's also the Coolermaster MM711, It's very small and comfy, and has a top of the line sensor for a pretty cheap price. Also if you can find it, the HK Gaming Mira S is nice, and it comes in some different colorways other than just the plain old black or white. Logitech and Razer have some nice offerings, but personally I'd avoid them. Logitech's offerings are genuinely good but their higher end options are crazy expensive compared to other brands. Razer has just always been overhyped in my experience. I've had half a dozen mice from them and each and every one has just been *okay* while being 2x the price of lesser-known brands that give you the same performance with higher quality plastics, and software that doesn't use up a bunch of background resources :/ Also honourable mention to endgame gear, the OP1 might be a nice fit for you, it's a smidge bigger than the Pulsar X2H mini -which is what I currently use- but it's still fairly small compared to most mice.

try the endgame gear OP1, it is a really good small and light mouse for FPS games. The RGB version is still on sale on amazon for 35€ here in germany.

And add a dpi button on top!

Yeah, I really like the op1, broken several personal records with it, just can't play without that extra button on top, hard to find a wired mouse with recent sensor and that illusive extra button.