Endgame Gear - OP1 8k

Viper v2pro v3pro.(V2 best shape, V3 "safe" shape) *best sensor imo/from experience, no debounce delay* Super light 2. *Good sensor and no debounce delay.* Op1 8k (cable) or wireless 4k. *Fastest clicks, it registers the click before you hear the click sound. Good sensor.* My favorite of them all, G-wolf HTR 8k pro. Tiny mouse At 26g, I'm 6'4 and can use this little thing without any issues. But I would recommend the Endgame gear OP1 8k, Great shape, great coating for grip even with sweaty hands, fastest clicks of any mouse due to their own switches and good sensor. Light weight software (*no install*). Good price.

Viper v2pro v3pro.(V2 best shape, V3 "safe" shape) *best sensor imo/from experience, no debounce delay* Super light 2. *Good sensor and no debounce delay.* Op1 8k (cable) or wireless 4k. *Fastest clicks, it registers the click before you hear the click sound. Good sensor.* My favorite of them all, G-wolf HTR 8k pro. Tiny mouse At 26g, I'm 6'4 and can use this little thing without any issues. But I would recommend the Endgame gear OP1 8k, Great shape, great coating for grip even with sweaty hands, fastest clicks of any mouse due to their own switches and good sensor. Light weight software (*no install*). Good price.

Super disappointed with the switches. They are pretty stiff for nowadays standards, much stiffer than the Zowie U2 for example which are in the middle range. To me this is the biggest downside of the mouse for me. Quite unfortunate that’s the lightest switches Endgame offers, did anybody swap them with non official ones that feels lighter to activate ?

Light compared to what? Compared to the last 20 mice I got over the last 3 years they are not falling under the light category at all to me, at least for mechanical switches. An example of a light and spammable switch would be the Vaxee XE for example

That’s exactly how I like my clicks, the less actuation force is needed, the better

Right! I am not a fan of optical switches at the moment but I’m confident brands will improve them significantly over the years

my Xm2we has 3370 and i cant use that mouse because It feels inaccurate compared to my viper v2 and op1 8k which have the 3950 and 3395

Based on what? I hit better shots with my endgame Gear OP18K than when I was with the deathadder v3

Same hand size, used the op18k, BeastX, Lamzu Thorn and Scyrox V8. Out of all of them the Scyrox V8 feels the most comfortable. But my grip tends to be palm / relaxed claw so your experience may vary.

as someone w tiny hands (16.5-17) it just border on too long for claw but very usable if okay with having wrist off pad or stiff clicks

get the purple if u want to save money since u dont need the new pcb + lighter binned switches

Look into an Op18k, most people here will moan and cry about it being wired, it has the lowest click latency out of any mouse. and i guarantee you it will last longer then most the suggestions put into the comments on this post.

Pwnage Stormbreaker for me. I don’t have Carpel Tunnel but I do have repetitive strain flare ups in my wrists and hands now and then. It’s the most comfortable mouse I’ve tried and I get the least fatigue with it compared to my other mice due to ergo shape and low weight. FYI I have used the OG superlight, Deathadder V3 Pro, Finalmouse ULX, and Endgame Gear OP18k. Hope you find the shape that lets you game comfortably!

I found the side buttons tired out my thumb really fast and returned it. Great mouse otherwise.

I am in the same boat I bought the endgamegear Op1 8k but it's too small for my hand. Now I can't decide between the xm2 / Viper v3 pro / Lamzu Maya fnc x 8k? 

DAV3 wired is a spectacular mouse, I just got my op1 8K, and honestly, its literally just shape preference. Used the v3 for a little over a year now. Both are pretty much top of the line as far as latency and accuracy, and both are going to be spectacular mice for years to come. I love the op1 for claw and when I'm being a sweaty shooter gamer, I love the DAV3 for general tasks and less intense stuff. Both are pretty much end game mice if you can handle a wire (just use a bungee lol)

Hello all my mouse lovers and enthusiasts. Today is a very special day. I have been so excited to finally use the Endgame Gear Op1 8k Purple Frost edition and after a good days worth of gaming here is my review. TL;DR: This is hands down the best mouse on the market. Look past the wire and you literally have yourself a mouse worthy being called an "ENDGAME" mouse. The switches are soft yet crispy. The coating is smooth, but not slippery. The shape is the most "locked in" shape out there. Has the new PAW3950 sensor. The 8k polling feels night and day compared to any other mouse on the market. You get all this for only $90. Also easy to use and understand software which allows you to lower the click latency. 51g btw. FULL REVIEW: SHAPE - The shape is truly what shocked me. As we all know, at the end of the day a mouse can have all these bells and whistles but if the shape is uncomfortable then it's not for you. This shape is for me. My hand is 19cm×10cm. My grip style is a hybrid between palm and a relaxed claw. The "locked in" feel I get from holding this mouse is right there with the Razer Viper V3 Pro. COATING - The coating is the best I've ever felt. It's nice and smooth but not slippery. I never find my skin slipping off the mouse at all. I will mention I do have naturally clammy hands so if you have dry hands maybe your experience will differ. WEIGHT - Not much to say here. It's only 51g. I use a bungee for the wire and it basically feels wireless. I will say I have a high sens so I rarely ever swing my mouse side to side on my mousepad. SENSOR - Before I started using this Op1 8k Purple Frost, I thought the Logitech G PRO X SUPERLIGHT 2 and the Razer Viper V3 Pro had the best sensors on the mouse market. I was wrong. The PAW3950 sensor on this mous feels so much better on my 360hz monitor. It gets even better as I use higher polling rates. The 8k polling rate is so f*cking smooth. Now in all honesty, I won't be using it at 8k unless I'm playing VALORANT. I'll be using it at 2k polling rate. I just never knew the difference between a top tier wireless sensor compared to a top tier wired sensor could be so night and day. SCROLL WHEEL - It does the job. It's a little small for my liking but it still works fine. The only time I'm ever using my scroll wheel is when I'm playing Fortnite picking up items so it doesn't really matter to me. SIDE BUTTONS - Wow these side buttons are crisp. No post or pre-travel whatsoever. This to me is very important because I use my side buttons to edit and reset edits on Fortnite. So I need to be able to really FEEL that click on a moments notice. PRICE - It's $90 on Amazon. Honestly with this being the best mouse on the market (especially spec wise) this is a STEAL. I paid $200 for my Japanese imported Razer Viper V3 Pro Gengar Edition, $160 for my Logitech G pro x superlight 2, and $140 on my Fnatic Maya X 8k. All of those mice are NOTHING compared to the Endgame Gear Op1 8k Purple Frost edition. SOFTWARE - You can find the software download on Endgame Gear's website. *NOTE: the Purple Frost edition has a complete different download than the regular Op1 8k. Probably because of the updated sensor.* BATTERY LIFE - It's wired. So basically infinite as long as you don't have anything sharp next to your wire. CONCLUSION - I love this mouse. The only other wired mouse I've been using here and there was the Razer Deathadder V3 and I only used to to play casual games and edit videos. This one will be different. The Endgame Gear Op1 8k Purple Frost edition WILL be my main for the foreseeable future. Yes I will still have my mouse rotation, but when it comes to playing ranked VALORANT or ranked Fortnite I will be using this mouse. I understand if you're someone who won't switch to wired. I get it. I was scared as well. But I'm so happy I opened up my options to wired as well still using wireless mice. I want to also say I own or have used most of the best mice on the market. So me saying this is THE BEST mouse I've ever used really holds a lot of weight. At least to me it does. If you've read all the way till the end, thank you. I really wanted to show my love for this mouse to all of you. I don't have any friends who are mouse enthusiast like me so this Reddit being here is awesome. I get to express my love for mice to everyone. If you have any other questions about the mouse, let me know in the comments. Have a great day.

I just realized I forgot to talk about the main switches in my full review. Just know they're very easy to click, and they feel crispy. The mouse has Kailh GX Switches if any of you are wondering. This mouse had the LOWEST latency on the market once you go on the software and turn on speed GX mode.

endgame gear op1 8k because of its weight and repairability. You can get new sliders on it, open it with 2 screws, change the switches if you want to, change the cable and have easy portable software to control it all. [Endgame Gear OP1 8k Review - RTINGS.com](https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/endgame-gear/op1-8k)

Honestly, for wired mice nowadays, the absolute best you can get are the OP1 8k and the XM2 8k. The Razer Deathadder v3 is pretty good too I've heard, but it depends on your preferred grip and your hand size though.

The op1 8k? Mine were pretty light but I'm returning mine because I like wireless more

Maybe I'll try it for shits, I just wish it wasn't clear purple. Looks like I can get it on Amazon so I'll return it if I don't like it

Yeah that's all in your head. I perform better with my OP1we than any mouse. I perform exactly the same with my OP1we as I do with my op1 8k, maybe even better because no cable. I'm actually going to return my 8k

Honestly, op1 8k if you mod the cable might be the best thing there is right now. Edit: https://youtu.be/ckqY5sRFMKw?si=RRgJDaXm2yicTrl2 I personally use the scyrox v8 cause the shape is quite similar, it’s wireless, sub-40g and has 4K polling, have a look at that

If you're willing to go outside of your comfort zone with a different brand I'd try the OP1 8k from endgame gear, even though it's wired it's seriously an amazing mouse. But if you're trying to stick with those brands then for Logitech I'd go with a superlight, even the first generation still holds up well today. And for Razer I love the Deathadder v3 as I grew up with that shape, but if you want a symmetrical mouse then a Viper V3

The answer you're looking for is the Endgame Gear OP18K https://youtu.be/JUadU6eS_HQ?si=5IvHUL_91d25S0hY

My vote would be Razer Cobra, it improved on some of the small issues with Viper Mini (added skate around sensor and fixed the wheel), its light and the click latency is still superb. It is a top level tournaments capable mouse. My main qualm with it is not optimal comfort for my liking, however there is nothing which I would feel is interfering with my movements, which actually was one of the reasons I returned Endgame Gear OP1 8k and G303 Shroud Edition, it is a highly subjective though. The objective downside is the not so good Razer software and Cobra doesn't save settings, so if there is something you specifically want from the software, you will need to keep it running in the background/RAM. Also for hard pads users Razer's skates aren't the best.

I totally didn't realize you had the op1we that's my bad You might actually be cooked. I don't think those clicks are savable. You should get the op18k though - that mouse is what I was talking about and is goated.

Game: EFT Mouse: Op18k Skates: Obsidian dots Mousepad: Hayate Otsu Soft XL Keyboard: Custom Wooting60 IEM: HyperX Cloud2 Monitor: XL2546K

People that recommend the Viper Mini either havent tried it themselves or dont know better, that cable is stiff, thick so its not even compatible with mouse bungees I wouldn't subject a friend to that. The minimum I'd pay for a wired mouse with an actually good cable is around 2k for the Wired Razer and Pulsar options (Razer Deathadder V3 and Pulsar X2/X2H/Xlite Wired) and max at 3k-4k for the 8k options from Endgame Gear with good wired cables as well (OP1 8k and XM2 8k) at 1k the only reasonable option is VXE R1, whatever version you can get (avoid pro max, switches suck)

Better sensor

Used this mouse for many days now, it fits my hand much better than the GPX 2. I’m glad the shape fits me :)

It’s 3950 instead of 3395.

Ec series, da v3 pro, I was getting hand cramps with an op18k but thought if I had a wide mouse it's feel a lot better so bought xm2we and it's more comfy than the DeathAdder v2 for me even being symmetrical.

Ordered one when it was on sale, gotta wait like 2 weeks tho.

op18k with a lethal cable mod and any feet you like

best wired you can get are op18k and xm28k

no idea why youre locked in to those 2 brands. endgame gear makes the op1 8k and the xm2 8k, both are symmetrical and the wired versions come in under $90. aside from initial setup you can get rid of the software too because it saves to the mouse. also you wont notice the wire, its that good. as others have mentioned the deathadder also comes in a wired version under $80, but it isnt symmetrical

Your in for a never ending rabbit hole. I personally recommend the Endgame Gear OP1 8k because I really enjoy it and it could last basically indefinitely as long as you take care of it.

there’s good Chinese brands out there I have a ATK F1 Extreme Blazing Sky (Leviatan edition) and Endgame OP1 8k and I’m loving em. those brands have better QC

Got it yesterday. If my main game wasnt cs2 I would keep it. Coming from a gpx2 I feel like you loose stability for maneuverability. I imagine it being great for games like apex where you aim all over the place but for cs2 where aiming is heavily horizontally focused I didn't like it that much.

My current main coming from the wired Cobra. Although I slightly prefer the hump placement on the Cobra, the OP1 8k was a nice little upgrade. Slightly lighter, better sensor, cable, feet, click feel and scroll wheel (hopefully no encoder issues in the long run) and no effing synapse running in the background!

I've had that happen to the cobra and two viper minis... OP1's scroll has been solid so far.

ergo g403 shape for those games, 30 recent mice i got i interchanged them with aim trainers and i get the best scores with certain scenarios on certain mice, mm711, op18k xm28k and g403 i was best with but g403 for tac was immo3 with that one. im just getting the terra pro and calling it a day

OP1 8k or op1 w 4k have similar shape to scyrox v8 and are great quality mice

I was comparing the Scyrox to the OP18K as they have a similar shape. The back bump on the Scyrox is a little taller for sure. But I haven’t tried the Sora so I couldn’t speak on the shape of that mouse.

Endgame gear op1 nice small mouse with hotswap feature Razer cobra decent small mouse with optical switch

Endgame gear their 8k models have a basic software

Op1 and dav3 best value, the haste core is not

wired - op18k or xm2 8k, dav3 wired Wireless - zowie mice (dw, ec-cw, u2) vaxee, gpx2, viper V3 pro

Op1 is really good

Razer cobra, egg op1 or some zowie c gen mice if you don't mind wired mice it will be an upgrade to your current mouse

Nice review! I own this and agree the mouse is awesome. The clicks are insanely good. I slapped on an aero base from TJ Exclusives just to try it with a few grams less weight and it is so good. Don't think I will get anything else for a while!

for fingertip grip the L7 for sure. The Mad R is more a full size (X2 clone) where the L7 is closer to a X2 Mini clone. The coating does for sure feel better on the L7 but weight wise they are very similar. If you want fingeritp grip then the L7 is a fantastic choice and specs wise and speed wise one of the best mice on market (wired competes with the op18k and nearly competes with it wireless as well.)

The quality ok the L7 is exceptional. I wouldn't expect you to run into any major issues with it during use. Op18k is more narrow i have it as well, build quality on it is just as good, it can be fingertiped but is better for claw by far.

A bit less than that (~0.8 ms), and that number only applies to 1000 Hz. At 2000 Hz, it'll be half of that, and at 4000 Hz roughly half once again.

Palm will be difficult, fingertip grip just fine. No issue with 18 cm, I was using it with 19 cm using claw grip.

Op18k best mouse I’ve used and I have been searching for my endgame mouse forever. This one is the truth y’all.

I wish I liked the shape. It's too narrow for me, feels like I can't grip it securely and that it's gonna slip out of my hand with every movement.

Damn, that's an old comment lmao. I've actually returned the Ghero since I was noticeably worse in FPS games with it, and I actually still use and really like the OP1 now, contrary to my previous comment about it being too narrow. I've since picked up a few other mice. I'm really liking the ATK X1 Ultimate, and the Hitscan Hyperlight as well.

Had various mice up to a G Pro but bought a OP1 8k wired since my G Pro had issues. Boy this mouse is good. Maybe it is just in my head but I feel like I hit way more shots. Also love the software. Cut down to the absolute minimum.

Op18k or gpx super light with jade skates on raiden mid.

Orbital Pathfinder recently came out, mine is still shipping but I think it might be awesome if you’re unsure of the shape you want to use. Otherwise, I have OP1-8k it is awesome but a little too narrow for me.

Get an op1 8k purple frost, it's pre-binned with lighter switches than the regular op1 8k, which is already lighter than the op1we. Or wait for op1w 4k which should be coming any minute now if you can't stand a wire

Went there and ended up with an Endgame Gear OP1 8k (wired). I couldn't be happier with it - Simple, light, no frills, extremely comfortable. They also make a wireless version, the OP1w 4K. I'm guessing by the name that the polling rate may be lower for power saving or something, but I can't tell a difference in tracking between this and my old mouse, which I think had a 4K polling rate. RTings also has *very* extensive mouse testing: https://www.rtings.com/mouse

I have the black and the purple frost, purple frost creaks like a bitch so I ended up just stripping the internals and upgrading the black one 😭 The frosted plastic seems to be a lot less rigid unfortunately :(

I have the black and the purple frost, purple frost creaks like a bitch so I ended up just stripping the internals and upgrading the black one 😭 The frosted plastic seems to be a lot less rigid unfortunately :(

The stock switches are lighter so those are nice but sensor is absolutely indistinguishable, I should have just bought a switch pack.

If you are fine with a wired mouse, the op18k or xm28k are the best you can get. If you need wireless, then I would recommend one of the scryox v6/v8 but the debate is there for pretty much anything.

I think it's alarming that you never tried the good old ec2. I've tried multiple different newer mice with good internals and different shapes(the last one was op18k), but I always go back to my trusty ec2a from 2017. So comfortable and I'm aiming great in cs2

I know you said you prefer wireless but you should definitely consider the Endgame Gear OP1 8K. It's a wired mouse that performance wise blows every other mouse out of the water and has a really really nice cable that many swear you barely even feel with a good bungee. It'll probably give you the best accuracy and latency of any mouse and it's worth checking out for you. Don't let the wire affect your bias before you try it.

Been using the 8k for about a month. At first i thought it was just me but it seems to miss clicks even when browsing. i've tried different settings too. Also the scroll wheel is a bit too slippery for my liking. prefer a more silent click too. I will be returning it.

Finalmouse ULX small /PMM Viper v3 pro/ OP1 8k wired (lots of mice these are my favorite) Pulsar Superglide v2/Key-83 Wooting 80he Mangrid Tea Pro/ thieaudio Hype 4/ Sennheiser 490pro All pvp and pve games. Marathon Alpha playtest starts soon) https://x.com/rudyomic/status/1905926817984233933?s=46

Are you sure you are using fingertip and palm grip hybrid? You probably are mistaking palm for relaxed claw grip. And you are probably cramping due to size of g305 if this is the case. There are people with relaxed claw + fingertip hybrid grip including me. Mice that works for me have almost flat sides like pulsar x2 or x2h(medium or mini), gpx, or op18k.

I have the op1 8k (white version) and the new Xm2 8k. The op1 8k is too small for my hands but the Xm2 8k is perfect. Like op said the sensor on a wired mouse is noticeably better then wireless. I have the superlight 2 and it's no where near as good sensor wise. I can't tell any difference when playing under 240hz. But when I play 240-480hz it's definitely noticeable. Op1 8k is perfect for small to medium hands. Xm2 8k is good for medium to large hands. If your hands are medium I'd go with the Xm2 8k.

Not lighter but the shape u describe might work well with an endgame gear xm2/Op1

Xm2 8k or op1 8k depending on your hand size or grip preference. Get a bungee, the wire is chill.

OP1 8k's good for rough use, if you want wireless, then use VXE R1 pro

Recently got the OP1 8K and a brand new desk mat cant wait for them to get here moving on from a razer wireless mouse.

How would you not prefer wireless with amazing click latency? I tries the op1 8K and still hate cables lol.

Yeah, I think for medium to small hands the OP1 8K is a superior shape for FPS for most people. I think for a lot of people the wire is just in their head. Again, perhaps influencers have also played their part in shaping people's attitudes towards wires. It depends a bit on use case and sens though. It can also be nice to have a wireless mouse to make your desk look cleaner. But just when it comes to in-game performance, it shouldn't limit most people imo.

I also think it's arguably the best switch implementation. I am curious to see how sentiment will shift when the OP1w becomes available.

It's a bit over budget, but if you're into esport games like r6, cs, valorant then I'd vouch for the op1 8k. It's a wired mouse, but it has the apparently the best click latency of gaming mice currently, isn't heavy at 50 grams, and has 8k polling if you care. I hear the wire is also pretty unobtrusive too. $109 at pccg.

Shape is one of if not the best for medium / small hand sizes, the hump allows you to comfortably claw grip it while keeping the front more narrow for great use of fingertip adjustments. And then there's the fact that the build quality is all around premium, the coating, the switches are amazing, especially the side buttons which a lot of other mice use softer more mushier switches, whether these are all snappy and built like a tank. The stock skates are also really good. And the cable is very lightweight and flexible, it feels more like fabric and you practically don't notice it at all with a good dongle. Oh and the Op1 is built to be easily moddable, it's very easy to open, requiring just 2 screws and the switches have been made to be hot swappable if you wish to change them. The only reason I'm not using the op1 8k, 24/7 is the fact my desk is too small, so my wire drags slightly off the table, because going to the top of my pad makes my mouse wire fall off the desk. That won't be an issue for larger tables. It's also the fact of the weight, imo 50g\~ mice and under feel way less exhausting to use than 60g\~ mice. Which is why I tend to use the Hyperlight over the Op1 w4k. Because even though I prefer the op1 build quality and shape, it's just a way better experience using something lightweight. But that doesn't make it bad at all means. I can use my op1 w4k quite well, it's just I think having it as the same weight as the op1 8k, literally perfects it. As I said, the weight basically puts the op1 8k currently as the best mouse overall, if you get a bungee, you can just get a simple pulsar micro one and stick it to the underside of your monitor and you're good to go. Even then if you want to wait until July / June to get the v2 versions, that's completely up to you, they will have a slight weight reduction (we don't know about the op1 wireless or xm2 weights currently). And you'll get a slightly better build with a 3950 sensor, (but the difference between that and the 3395 is practically unnoticable) That's why I'm saying if the new op1 w4k v2 is 50g, you might as well not even buy anything else.

Try the op1 w4k, I enjoy using it. It's not bad at all means so if you really don't want a wired, give it a go. It's a banger either way, I'm just saying from my personal experience if the v2 version knocks the weight down, it's #1 mouse of all time.

It's only problem on razer's deathadder v3 pro and viper v2 pro and they probably fixed it in new versions. If you still have gwarannty you can do rma. If you want new mouse i reccomend you endgame gear xm2 8k or op1 8k if wired. If wireless there's many options, if you liked viper v2 pro i reccomend you viper v3 pro.

Wired DAv3 got plenty of praise here and in different reviews. Great mouse, the shape is just too big and bulky. And of course the clicks aren't nearly as good (in general some can even prefer the opticals) as with OP1 8k. Performance wise of course the differences are small but OP1 8k is lower latency than even the wired DAv3 (which is great in itself don't get me wrong). "not just about the shape, otherwise everyone would be saying OP1we was endgame." Of course it's not only about the shape. It's the combination of top performance in a great shape with overall excellent build quality and clicks. OP1we had heavier weight and clicks that many disliked or at least didn't love. 

The non pro 500x500 Saturn is like $15 at LGG, which is a very solid value imo, which leaves a lot of budget for the mouse. Just looking at Endgame you could get an OP1 8k if you don't mind the wire or a XM2we if you do. Mice preference is mostly dictated by your specific grip style and hand size so you sort of have to narrow it down a bit. Scryox V8 is also a good budget option but a bit lower profile and narrower than what you might be expecting if you are coming from something like an ergo. I remember seeing GPX superlights (the original not v2) go as low as $80 at some places. Some people really like the GPX shape and at that price point it could make sense.

get op1 8k because you can repair anything pretty easily and build quality is great. probably don't get if you have over 11cm wide hands

I was deciding between the scyrox v8 and the op1 8k, and ended up getting the latter cuz Viscose and boardzy conviced me with their vids on it ngl, but im still curious if i made the wrong choice, tbh the wire doesnt bother much is just there and the clicks and quality and inmaculate, miles ahead of the scyrox v8 Imo.

I have both op1 8k and deathadder v3 , now using the op1 just because it's bit better for black ops 6. But it you are not into fps gaming , then deathadder v3 is fine. If you play cod warzone and you do lot of movement the smaller shape is gonna save more space for the mouse to move around. Also you need to upgrade the firmware of op1 8k if you buy it. If you have very large hands then but xm2

Ok for that grip don't buy op1 8k , it's too small. But deathadder v3 it's gonna feel fire. In my area it's really affordable on sales.

Bro 🤣🤣🤣, my deathadder v3 is cooked after almost 2.5 months of usage 🤣🤣🤣, the usb disconnects automatically. I had to clean install windows for a purpose. It's not a driver or razer software side issue. The physical cable got damaged , i use it to play call of duty black ops 6 🤣. A mouse lasting 2.5 years would be a dream to me. I got it on sale from Amazon, might be some shit unit. But i would suggest to buy something else. Don't buy op1 8k also. Just get some wireless mouse like VXE mad r major , i personally ordered atk f1 extreme. Time to go wireless finally. Fuck the wire. 👍😆😆🤣

Hello, I was in the same boat as you around 4 years ago. Wanted to keep it cheap, and did not care about rgb. I personally found that while keyboard is not insanely important. Mousepad, mouse, and monitor hz is the number 1 things preventing your skill in whatever fps game you play. I say if you invest in a solid mouse (ideally above $30) you can use that mouse for however many years you would like assuming you researched the truth of it. I gravitated towards the Glorious Model O 4 years ago, and just recently ordered the Op1 8k (easily one of the best mouse on the market). As for keyboard I am not familiar, I went ahead and purchased an easy mechanical keyboard. If I were to suggest, Op1 8k, but that is at $85.

Op1 8k and Sora v2

Op1 8K is great but also kinda small for me but Xm2 8K would be in consideration if I was looking to buy a new mouse at the moment. I prefer wired simply because I don't have to worry about the battery and charging. It's always ready to go when I need it. Cable doesn't bother me because these higher end wired mice have great lightweight cables as well but still some people hate it and for them a bungee is always an option.

OP, this. Out of all the small mice I've tried, the OP1 Shape is the one I've liked the most. It doesn't feel like a scaled down version of a larger mouse. The width of the mouse is great for smaller hands (I'm 17.5x10) and makes the mouse feel proportionate to its size. All my other mouse have been shelved and I haven't even had the urge to give any of them a spin since I got my OP1 8K.

If you are looking for a wired mouse, EndgameGear has some great options. Since you have smaller hands, the OP1 8K is worth checking out. If you are looking for pure value, definitely go for a chinese mouse (VXE R1 lineup, VXE Mad R lineup, ATK F1 lineup, Scyrox V6/V8).

I have an 80he and the OP1 XM1. If you have small hands go with OP1 8k. Great mice if you like wired like me.  

XE S is one of my current favorites. In fact, I specifically bought it since it shared a similar profile as Cloud XS. I switch between it and OP1 8K.

Anyone that is wanting a great mouse, I recommend Endgame Gear Op1 or Op1 8k (8k polling rate is overkill and requires alot alot of processing power) These mice are affordable on any budget, and the performance you get with them is as good or better than it's competitors. One could argue that it is better than it's competitors in every aspect.

Anyone that is wanting a great mouse, I recommend Endgame Gear Op1 or Op1 8k (8k polling rate is overkill and requires alot alot of processing power) These mice are affordable on any budget, and the performance you get with them is as good or better than it's competitors. One could argue that it is better than it's competitors in every aspect.

I personally don’t mind wired. Prefer my op1 8k over most wireless mice. BUT, I also have wireless mice and have happily used them the last 6 years. There’s really no reason to go wired unless you enjoy a shape. And even then most wired mice also have a wireless version.

Fingertip can be pretty good when using the OP1. For my experience, it has been amazing, aside from my palm brushing up against the hump accidentally. I am going for the BeastX Mini due to the hump being more centered towards the mouse. I have small hands myself, and I am very excited to try to get it this Christmas

It’s a very good mouse, I just wish they added the front thumb button. I’m too used to having one…

Harpe might be a better pick than the rest, OP1 is nice for the shape, my homie has the OP1we paired with the Hone Ace mousepad and holy fuck my wrist might get fucked 😂😂

This is a fun assignment, maybe EGG OP1 for claw and fortnite. Roccat Kone Pro for moba (not really). Rocket Jump Ninja mouse for fingertip.

Yes, you can't go wrong with the basic OP1 model.

I second the OP1