Endgame Gear - OP1we Gaming Mouse

yep, i had an op1we, but after viper v2 and superlight it became too narrow for me

i came from xm to op, and it was incredible i had 67% hs on faceit, but after i get from friend viper v2 and superlight.. so it happened… and now i wanna try some u2 shape i guess

This might seem weird. But the endgame gear op1we has one of the best middle clicks I’ve ever used. It’s around $80 and built extremely well. It is a gaming mouse but yeah.

Goated. I knew I loved the OP1we shape but something was missing. I do want to try the OP1w at some point but the lack of needing to charge or a dongle is so good.

Yeah that's all in your head. I perform better with my OP1we than any mouse. I perform exactly the same with my OP1we as I do with my op1 8k, maybe even better because no cable. I'm actually going to return my 8k

I totally didn't realize you had the op1we that's my bad You might actually be cooked. I don't think those clicks are savable. You should get the op18k though - that mouse is what I was talking about and is goated.

Op1we and Asus Moonstone

There are many big names being mentioned here but if you don't want to break the bank and still want a good mouse I'd say get the VXE R1 Pro. Great hardware for a great price. Nowadays the mainstream brands are too expensive for what they offer and if you want a reputable brand with good mice I'd say look at EndgameGear or Lamzu but these are also more expensive than the VXE. (I'm currently using an EndgameGear OP1WE with a claw grip). Also you're in a pc building subreddit, most people here won't be knowledgeable about the enthusiast market. You can head over to r/MouseReview for in depth questions.

You're talking about the wired 8k version if youre talking about the best. The Wireless one is alright though

I main the OP1WE but I looked at this mouse before and definitely considered it. Are there any shape differences between these two?

Thanks. I did check eloshapes before and they were very very similar iirc

I am fingertipping vv3 pro rn, feels good. Previously had success with superlights, op1we and will be testing crazylight tomorrow. Forgot to add - i really LOVED fk2 dw, sadly I can't stand its clicks. Otherwise great shape.

Yeah I know what youre talking about, i wouldnt want to use low sens when im trying to one tick prayer flick either. In the instance where you feel you are lacking stability but still need something lightweight, try a slightly bigger mouse. Best options are honestly the mainstream which are Viper v3 or pro x superlight. My regular rotation is ULX, VV3 and OP1WE

After doing some research and realizing I tended to use fingertip more than claw I ended up with the op1we, which I saw was criticized for heavy clicks so ended up buying the 4k v2.

I have an OP1we and the shape is so good that I can forward palm it if I want to with 18x9 hands. Eloshapes makes it look super skinny and long but I have a theory that my ring and pinky fingers can rest in a more natural position because they aren't being stretched out by a wide stubby shape, which is of course helped by the sides covering the buttons.

OP1we + LGG Saturn Pro Soft Sens is 42 cm/360 @ 1600 DPI All roles flex player (but primarily dps)

I have no idea how I started down this rabbit hole, but I am here. I'm currently maining op1we and love almost everything about it, just wish it was a tad lighter. I switch it up with the beast x mini, but the scroll wheel is So stiff for me that its sold alot of games (skill issue, I know) I'm really wanting to try the hitscan hyperlight. Wondering if it might be my true end game 🤔 Tried: Gpx: too big Sora v2: hump is too obnoxious Orochi v2: hump too obnoxious Model o: too cheap feeling, gave to my kid

Huge love for my End Game Gear op1we

I keep trying to like my OP1we but keep swapping back to the Sora V2. I wish I hadn't given my Atlantis Mini to my younger brother too :| I want to love it, it just feels way too heavy on the clicks for CS for me. And I feel a little out of control with it, like it never quite fits nicely against the base of my palm in claw. I'm mostly eyeing up the X3 Mini LHD so I can finally see if ergo is what I've been missing all these years as a lefty. I think the last time I had a left handed ergo I was like 14 years old.

No doubt, Razer Viper V3 Pro is better than others in list. But Viper is considerable bigger than Your Logitech b100 . As per size of Your Logitech b100 I would take Endgame Gear OP1we (or Endgame Gear OP1w 4K).

Op1w > literally every other mouse for claw

You have the OP1W if you don’t like wires. Their upcoming V2 line will feauture a 3950 sensor too.

I have the wireless version and absolutely love it. It's a really good mouse and this is coming from someone who has a fuck ton of mice. I find the op1 a touch too small and the xm2 a touch too big so I got the vaxee x sora as it literally right in between those 2 mice as size goes, and I think vaxee has one of the best wireless implementations in the mice industry, which imo, plays a really big role in wireless mice, which often people over look. Good wireless performance will make a mouse feel like it has a better sensor than its competitor if they don't have as good of a wireless implementation. I barley noticed a difference between my Vaxee.X Sora and my OP1, so endgame gear passes the test there. I would rank the OP1 an S tier mouse, with a top of the line sensor. the v2 is probably a 3950 sensor as the V1 is a 3395 sensor. Even though you got the wired version, the wireless also has great wireless implementation, at least the op1 w 4k does imo. I highly recommend the mouse and below are my reasons to why the OP1 is Great, shape wise. Unfortunately, the Vaxee x Sora has a much wider back than I anticipated. Elo shapes can only help so much with predicting how a mouse shape will feel. The vaxee x Sora is a perfect XM2w 4k clone that's a touch smaller in my opinion. The OP1 is also very similar in shape but where the difference lies is the mouse has a more narrow rear. the Xm2, Vaxee X Sora, and OP1 all are identical claw shaped mice, in a small, medium, large format. but I think the OP1 has a slight difference from the XM2 and Vaxee Sora, and that is the OP1 has a more narrow rear, while the XM2 and Sora have a wide rear that fills out your palm more. The OP1 having a more narrow rear than the Xm2 and Sora, allows for easier micro adjustments in my hand. You see, Palm contact is Great for stability, and no palm contact and just fingers is great for micro adjustments. The XM2 and Sora having a wide rear, and being more wide all around, fatigues my hand more and makes too much contact with the sides of my palm, giving too much stability, and I can't make as seamless micro adjustments with my fingers as I can with the op1 4k. The OP1 still has a high rear, but it's just more narrow, allowing those side areas to be hollow in my palm, so I can make micro adjustments with the OP1 without it getting snagged on the edges of my hand, all while still have a high rear so I can still make contact with the top of my palm for when I need stability.

They do make a ton of mice like that. You need to look for mice that are specifically made for claw grip. Pulsar X2 or X2H is like that. Endgame gear OP1 or XM2 are also like that. Sora v1 , or Vaxee X Sora are also like that. I'm sure there plenty more that I can't think of from the top of my head. The hour glass gives your fingers better leverage to really handle the mouse but yea, if your hands are too big or small for the mouse, it can cause issues. I honestly would say the Logitech GPX has a very very subtle hour glass, that it will probably feel pretty flat on the sides for you, it's one of the safest first mice for a reason. Asus harpe ace if I remember correctly is also pretty flat on the sides, it's shaped like a Logitech GPX but just longer.

I have op1w and I already know I found my endgame mouse, I m waiting for some hot-swappable mouse switches just for fun.

Honestly, I would just go for a really light goated shape that's thin as 7.5 cm wide hands is skinny as hell... So you're wrist range of motion isn't limited. \- PMM OP1 - less than 35 g and expected release sometime this month in October \- HTS Ultra 8K - 29.5 g like Scyrox V6/HTS Plus but shorter \- HTX Ultra 8K - 32.1 g if you like Razer Viper Mini buy this one \- Crosshair Sabre V2 Pro - 36 g and only recommending because you can try it in Best Buy at the Crosshair display before you buy it

Fingertip can be pretty good when using the OP1. For my experience, it has been amazing, aside from my palm brushing up against the hump accidentally. I am going for the BeastX Mini due to the hump being more centered towards the mouse. I have small hands myself, and I am very excited to try to get it this Christmas

It’s a very good mouse, I just wish they added the front thumb button. I’m too used to having one…

Go to Microcenter and try a couple diff shapes out. Or look online and see what shapes other people like for their style. Claw / fingertip / palm. Check length of your hands you really care. I had a deathadder and just switched to ENDgame Op1. Feels amazing

OP1, XM1. There are rgb versions with a tad more weight if you want that at all, but since you're casually gaming then the base model is fine and you won't need 8k polling.

two different mice. look at the comma. [Op1](https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/op1-series) [Xm1](https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/xm1-series)

Harpe might be a better pick than the rest, OP1 is nice for the shape, my homie has the OP1we paired with the Hone Ace mousepad and holy fuck my wrist might get fucked 😂😂

This is a fun assignment, maybe EGG OP1 for claw and fortnite. Roccat Kone Pro for moba (not really). Rocket Jump Ninja mouse for fingertip.

Yes, you can't go wrong with the basic OP1 model.

You might like the OP1 series from Endgame gear, they're very narrow. Keep on gaming brother

I’m currently using a g203 wired mouse (big mistake), after 2-3 years it started to double click alot, and when I scroll it usually goes the opposite direction of what I want. It’s really unusable now so I’m looking for a better and more durable mouse that I can use for years, no double clicking, no scrolling problems, no need for any fancy stuff just a good durable mouse with 2 side buttons for gaming. My budget is around 50 bucks but if the mouse is worth it I can go for more. I’ve been looking around online and found the XM1r to be a pretty sturdy and reliable-looking mouse. But I really don’t know much about mouse so I’m looking forward to hear your suggestions.

Thank you. I’m definitely going with the op1 then since it’s really well praised by most people on this thread, I would love such a durable and quality mouse.

That is good to know, I mainly have an issue with my scroll wheel on my old mouse (it keeps scrolling the wrong way and the middle click works like 50% of the time) so I’m looking for a mouse that can work well for a long time, and alot of people showed me that the op1 is probably the best choice for my budget.

Yeah I’ve just taken a look at it and it seems very nice, this is probably the best one for my budget, might I ask what is the difference between the OP1 and OP1we version other than the wire, since it’s a 30 euro difference so I will probably go with the wired version if it’s the same.

I’m definitely going for the op1 then, I do not mind the wire and actually prefer them tbh. Everyone seem to really recommend it too so it’s probably a no-brainer atp. Thank you for your help.

Oh the scroll wheel is something I really must consider, since my current mouse cannot scroll correctly and clicking the mmb rarely works, it’s really annoying to use. I really hope it’s just a rare case and not a common occurrence. Thank you for the heads up.

I think I’ll go for the op1, Endgame Gear seems to really be reliable in terms of quality from what I’ve heard.

Thanks. I was considering the xm1 first but then people really love and recommend the op1 more, is it a newer mouse compared to xm1? Also I’m looking for a mouse that have good mouse buttons, and mainly a scroll wheel that won’t have any issues since my current mouse scroll is making it unusable (it keeps scrolling the wrong direction and clicking the mmb works only half the time). So for now it seems like op1 is the best fit for my budget.

Yeah guess it’s kinda steering me towards getting an op1 now, I didn’t really understand much about mouse back then but now I’ll probably avoid logitech mouse.

Around 50 dollars is the most comfortable range for me, but if the mouse is really worth it I can try 10 dollars more.

Yep definitely avoiding logitech mouse from now on, from the help I received from this thread, the best mouse for around 50 dollars is the op1 by Endgame Gear. I did some self research and their mouse are very durable and the quality is top notch, so this seems like the best choice if you wanna buy a new mouse.

Endgame gear got you covered. Eighter with the op1 , or the xm2we. I have the second and it's a tank.

Although it's true that mechanical switched develop double clicking, with modern mechanical switches it doesn't happen as quickly as with older mice (like the g203). If you want, the xm2we has optical switches, and doesn't cost more than the op1 8k.

The scroll wheel thingy it's probably the only flaw in some endgame gear mice, they don't use the bests ttc encoders (the thingy necessary for the scroll wheel to do scroll wheel things). As for the exit for the op2 V2, I have no idea for when it will come out, but endgame is not known for releasing stuff on time, so if you want to risk it, wait for the V2, or you can just get one other op1 now. The possibility of the scroll wheel dying again is rather low.

Razer Deathadder v3 hyperspeed is small, sleek, lightweight and all performance. no RGB. Others I’d recommend as others mentioned is Ninjutso Sora V2, Hitscan Hyperlight and Endgame OP1

I second the OP1

Endgame gear op1 nice small mouse with hotswap feature Razer cobra decent small mouse with optical switch

Op1 and dav3 best value, the haste core is not

Op1 is really good

Endgame gear op1 this mouse has a hotspot feature you can change the default switches into. A silent switch.

I have tried Logitech, razer, Endgame gear, zowie mice and my experience with Logitech the g102 prodigy it's rock solid no issues with the clicks and scroll wheel the rubber scroll wheel deteriorated. Razer the dav2 mini, rvm, Dav3 wired and cobra wired, I had to rma my rvm 7 times knowing it uses a shit encoder my last razer mice are the cobra and dav3 and the quality improved a lot. Endgame gear op1 and zowie are the same they're sturdy but I'll give zowie an upper hand because they use an optical scroll wheel encoder.

I highly recommend checking out Pulsar's options! There's the X2A which will give you 4 side buttons that are programmable. Their wireless options are also very good, without any blatant input lag. The cables are also way nicer than I've seen from Razer or Logitech, I had a Viper mini awhile back, but had to return it because it felt cheap and the cable was so stiff it'd push the mouse on its own. All of their mice have mini versions which have been perfect for my hands, which are pretty small. There's also the Coolermaster MM711, It's very small and comfy, and has a top of the line sensor for a pretty cheap price. Also if you can find it, the HK Gaming Mira S is nice, and it comes in some different colorways other than just the plain old black or white. Logitech and Razer have some nice offerings, but personally I'd avoid them. Logitech's offerings are genuinely good but their higher end options are crazy expensive compared to other brands. Razer has just always been overhyped in my experience. I've had half a dozen mice from them and each and every one has just been *okay* while being 2x the price of lesser-known brands that give you the same performance with higher quality plastics, and software that doesn't use up a bunch of background resources :/ Also honourable mention to endgame gear, the OP1 might be a nice fit for you, it's a smidge bigger than the Pulsar X2H mini -which is what I currently use- but it's still fairly small compared to most mice.

Anyone that is wanting a great mouse, I recommend Endgame Gear Op1 or Op1 8k (8k polling rate is overkill and requires alot alot of processing power) These mice are affordable on any budget, and the performance you get with them is as good or better than it's competitors. One could argue that it is better than it's competitors in every aspect.

try the endgame gear OP1, it is a really good small and light mouse for FPS games. The RGB version is still on sale on amazon for 35€ here in germany.

And add a dpi button on top!

Yeah, I really like the op1, broken several personal records with it, just can't play without that extra button on top, hard to find a wired mouse with recent sensor and that illusive extra button.

I have an 80he and the OP1 XM1. If you have small hands go with OP1 8k. Great mice if you like wired like me.