Endgame Gear - XM1

>Anyways, because of this I've ended up with more, got a much better understanding of what I do properly actually want instead of just randomly searching for mice and am actually, probably, for real this time, nearing my end game. At this point, what is it that is holding any of these mice back from being endgame? Is there a target spec you are looking for? I imagine you have the shape preference already locked in. I went down a similar rabbit hole after getting my first "enthusiast" mouse (the original XM1) back in 2020. Almost ironically, after trying a number of shapes, specs, technologies, etc., I am for the foreseeable future on the XM2 8K. I know specs are still improving, but I feel like for the past year or maybe two, we have been in diminishing returns territory.

The gpx isn’t a good mouse for the price at all. Go for the end game gear xm1 or xm2. They are pretty wide and the side curvature is pretty good for 1-3-1. It’s a little cheaper than the gpx and on Black Friday it’ll be even cheaper

OP1, XM1. There are rgb versions with a tad more weight if you want that at all, but since you're casually gaming then the base model is fine and you won't need 8k polling.

two different mice. look at the comma. [Op1](https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/op1-series) [Xm1](https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/xm1-series)

it's not much smaller than your current mouse. XM1 will be larger if you're concerned about size

Honestly, I started with a Viper Mini and MP510 I’ve not become better while having all these new peripherals 20+ mice and mousepads. Of course I’m better than 5 years ago lol, but aim training and just playing the games I like has helped much more than peripheral changes. I went from a Viper Mini 5 years ago to a Hitscan Hyperlight (similar shape) basically went full circle lol. Even tried the XM1 that you have but it was too large for my hand, but it felt very premium to me at the time.

I've been looking at the OP1 for some time but it seems too similar to the M42 which I had and felt too small. I had the XM1 and loved it but felt a tad too big, would you say 17.5x10 hands are medium or on the large side?

Same grip and \~same hand size, started gaming long time ago with the first G502.. then when Logitech made G PRO (G305) shape.. I got the Prodigy one, G203 and used that for a long time. Looking for a lighter replacement I tried: \- XM1 (good shape, great coating, but slightly large, back hump too big, definitely worth trying) \- OP1 (way to narrow, not for me) \- All the Zowies, ended up using for a short time EC-3 (issue: no micro adjustments), ZA-13 (back hump too high) \- GPX 2.. not bad but for some reason can't find a good grip... also, slippery, sold. I'll try the smaller 2 C \- G303 SE, great if it wasn't so big (still use it regularly at work) but G305 has better shape. \- MZ1 awesome.. just unreliable and a liiiiitle bit too small. \- Viper Mini = No! \- G403 that hump's huge. Now trying Mchose L7 Ultra and G3 Ultra... You (me also) want a mouse small enough that let you do micro adjustments with your fingers, it also must have some support where that small palm part touch it. G305 is great at this because you can freely move the mouse, that slightly tilted sides let fingers grab it easily, and when you press it against your palm you have enough support. If I have to pick a mouse right now for the next years, shapewise G305.. Can't understand why Logitech have not yet released a superlight version and is milking with no end the GPX shape.. Think about not buying a mouse because a pro use it but buy it if it suits you, that's what counts.

I have 21cm length hands, XM1 is too thick, OP1 is fine to fingertip. I have both and many other fingertip mice.

Right now you get can the XM1 RGB and XM1r GLOSSY both $30 on amazon. I went with the RBG even though it's heavier because I would rather use a 200gram mouse than a glossy mouse. The build quality is easily the best in my collection, makes the GPX feel like it was made by glorious. Also 82 grams is by no means heavy, it wasn't that long ago the g203 at 85 grams was one of the lightest mice you could get. If you're coming from a g203 though you might like the Razer Orochi. I picked up the hello kitty model for my wife for $30 on ebay and not kinda lie I kinda love it. Sometimes when she goes to bed early I'll grab it from her desk and run a few games of CS2 with it. If you're just after build quality though definitely check out the XM1. If you like the g203 shape the MCHOSE G3 is worth looking into, the chinese mice aren't bad at all and it definitely is gonna have better build quality than the horrific g305.

Yea the xm1 is a biiit too wide in the back. And the op1 is too thin in the middle. I kinda wanna try the x2 small as well, what do you think ?

if you want the "best" mouse and you mention fps i assume you looking for the best aim experience with a solid qc in that case i would just get a dav3 wired for palm or xmr1-2 wired for claw,not into finger tip, second hand you can pick them even below your budget up, dont say i warned u about cheap chinese mice when you get one and you back in this sub in a week, because those dont hold up interms of qc, coating or have flawless sensor implementation

I have an 80he and the OP1 XM1. If you have small hands go with OP1 8k. Great mice if you like wired like me.