XM1

>Anyways, because of this I've ended up with more, got a much better understanding of what I do properly actually want instead of just randomly searching for mice and am actually, probably, for real this time, nearing my end game. At this point, what is it that is holding any of these mice back from being endgame? Is there a target spec you are looking for? I imagine you have the shape preference already locked in. I went down a similar rabbit hole after getting my first "enthusiast" mouse (the original XM1) back in 2020. Almost ironically, after trying a number of shapes, specs, technologies, etc., I am for the foreseeable future on the XM2 8K. I know specs are still improving, but I feel like for the past year or maybe two, we have been in diminishing returns territory.

I am 10cm wide and 19cm long, so about the same width but yours might be longer than mine? I'm 8.5cm from web to tip. I use an XM1 shape. Big old back end and it's fairly long. None of the things you asked for though, unfortunately. Just a wide gamer mouse.

The gpx isn’t a good mouse for the price at all. Go for the end game gear xm1 or xm2. They are pretty wide and the side curvature is pretty good for 1-3-1. It’s a little cheaper than the gpx and on Black Friday it’ll be even cheaper

I relax-claw the Endgame Gear OP1-8k and I’m alright with it. Smaller, lighter, and a better claw shape than the Endgame XM1. Think it meets your 60g / 80€ specs

Unfortunately, I was sucked into this hobby in 2016 (don't mind date, old account got shadowbanned) and I've essentially tried a variety of mice. My hands are like 19x9, and I play with a relaxed claw that goes into an aggressive claw when I'm putting more tension on the mouse. From oldest to newest: Logitech G303 (the original) Logitech G Pro (wired G102/G305) Razer Deathadder Chroma Zowie-EC1A Zowie-FK2 Endgame Gear XM1 G303 Shroud Edition Logitech G Pro Superlight Razer Viper (Wired) Ninjutso Katana Ultralight Razer Deathadder V3 Pro Waizowl Cloud VXE R1 Pro ATK X1 Ultimate Endgame Gear XM2w 4k Razer Deathadder V4 Pro ATK Zero Even now, I'm still trying to find the mouse that works for me. The only ones that I felt that really worked out are the G303/G303 SE, the XM1/XM2 and the R1 Pro/Zero. Though I have some slight problems with each of them. The G303/G303SE have become too heavy for me after getting used to all these lightweight mice (and I accidentally tore a ribbon cable of the G303 SE while replacing the battery for the weight mod), but aside from that I've been secretly hoping for the day a G303 clone arrives with updated specs and less weight. I feel that the XM1/XM2 just needs to downsize a little and it would be perfect, and the R1/Zero are fine, but they're just missing the locked in feeling the G303 and the XM1 gives me. Any recommendations that fit in well? Budget is unlimited, and the games I play vary from CS2 to Apex Legends to TF2 and Deadlock. I'm fine with the weight being up to 60 grams. EDIT: Ended up picking up the OP1w 4k V2 and man the back hump makes it far more comfortable compared to the Superlight 2c where it felt like my ring and pinky finger was going to cramp up after a couple of runs in a kovaaks scenario. Keeping it as my main, while repurposing my Waizowl Cloud to be used for non-gaming stuff because of how comfortable it feels in the hand.

I've considered getting something with a rear hump as of late, but I haven't bit the bullet on the OP1 because I'm a bit worried about it being too small based off my brief experience with the Superlight 2c. Though, it might just be because the Superlight 2c barely has a hump for me to keep up a consistent grip for a long time (I find that after a bit my fingers keep moving around to find a good position.) X2H and the TenZ hasn't really crossed my mind because I thought I'd be fine with the R1/Zero which are just X2 clones.

Endgame Gear has a discount now for XM1 series of their mice, I have used the XM1 original mouse since it released back in 2021??? I think?? But that has served me well, best 50USD I spent.

I've been really impressed with my Endgame Gear XM1