Endgame Gear - XM2w 4k

Endgame Gear OP1w 4k if you want a smaller mouse or XM2w 4k if you want a larger mouse. Both have wired options available if you don't mind having a wire (and the OP1 has much cheaper versions if you don't care for more than 1k polling rates). Just don't get the "we" versions as these ones have pretty shitty optical switches.

Anti-Cheat systems don't detect side buttons as cheating. Your mouse is for basic office use so I am not surprised it has issues with precision. I can recommend endgame gear mice. Either get the OP1w or the XM2w if you want more stability. The wired versions are also worth considering if the wire doesn't bother you.

Have been playing on the XM2W 4k for the last month. Greatest mouse of all time!

I have alot of mice, i recently bought xm2w 4k and even tho its heavier than what i normally would use, it has become my main mouse. I have GREAT aim control with it

Not bad but you should get the xm2w 4k from endgame gear, cheaper, better shape and performance, also very comfortable for hours of play time

Xm2 4K in particular is really wide at the back

grandmaster xm2w 4k + gsrse rouge

I have all or most of the mice mentioned in your post, and similarly have had issues finding a mouse that had a right side that felt normal. The XM2w caused my hand to cramp (even tho I played awesome with it lol) The E1 is the best overall mouse I've ever used imho. The shape is second to none in my opinion. I have the ec2-dw, the pulsar super light size 1 & 2ES) and many other ergos that aren't nearly as comfy. The cons to the E1 are - the buttons have a specific bounce/spring to them, so there is a tiny bit of rattle if you slam your mouse often - the scroll wheel is fine - the side buttons have a bit of a corner to them, (I just sand it down) I'm currently switching between the E1, the Viper V3, the Zowie S2-dw Oh, and the Sora is an awesome mouse with a great shape. It's god a cool internal structure that was fun to mod and get the weight super low. I missed having the curved finger grooves (so I added my own) but overall it's an awesome mouse that I mained for months before I got into ergos. The pulsar super light is awesome, but had specific curves (along the right side and front) where I never felt 100% comfy. I have the v3ES and the v3 size 1, and both were a bit off for me. And I also didn't love the raesha optical switches.... Best scroll wheels tho! The XM2w is certainly the best built mouse of these three. If there was a version that didn't have such an aggressive inward curve along the right side I would likely be maining this mouse. That and I wish it had finger grooves... It's so solid tho... My personal rankings: 1. E1 2. Sora 3. Xlite (does the v4 still use Raesha optical switches??) 4. XM2w (but if you like the shape, its potentially #1)

Waizowl Cloud is very close in shape but slightly wider rear end. XM2w is similar but has a more filling rear end and creates more palm pressure. With basically all wireless mice nowadays you can just keep it plugged in whilst gaming and the cable is made of better materials than before

it was a good mouse, but I ended up wanting to switch away from a larger palm / claw shape to something smaller and more aggressive. Been on my XM2 4K for 4 months now, and zero regrets

i would say you need a bit of a wider mouse since your hand is relatively large compared to the lenght of your fingers, so the op1 might be a bit too narrow and thus cause some tense hand. If you like endgame gear you could try the XM2 W

I'm really lost guys. On my "prime" days I used G5, MX518, Intellimouse 3.0 and Rival 310. I had a relaxed claw grip, after that I used the G502 Hero, Model O, GPX and since then I never felt confortable with any mice and my grip also changed, now I have a tilted extended palm grip. Every mouse I've tried so far, Deathadder Essentials to try a true ergo since it was cheap, Thorn and Xm2w 4k. Some of them in the beginning feel good but after some hours not anymore. My handsize is 18x10, I can't tell if I need a big mouse or a small mouse. I really need some help please, the pictures are from Model O, Xm2w 4k and Deathadder.

They are really close to the Xm2w 4k hump and I didn't like it

I've checked the sensor position, and the ones I felt better aim are the Xm2w 4k and the G502 Hero. The G502 I don't know about sensor position, because it does not show on eloshapes and the Xm2w has a higher sensor position then the Viper V3 pro

I have a few. For ambi, it's Viper v3 and XM2w. For ergo it's EC2 and G502.

I’m trying wireless for the first time currently, bought an XM2w 4k. It does seem to be burning through a charge pretty quickly, less than a week. I’m not in love with that. Otherwise it’s really nice.

XM2w 4k is lit.

Why the XM2WE? Go for the XM2W 4K if you're already going that route.

there's a lot more factors into it if you're just looking at the peripherals. These could include mousepad, mouse weight, size, grip etc. Personally I've used a lot of mice playing tac fps. These includes a Logitech G402, EC2, 2 crappy GPWs, RVU, a very bad copy of the GPX, DAV3P, and now I'm on my Lamzu Maya X and EGG XM2W 4K Looking back I think I made the most progress with my game with the RVU, then again I also upgraded to a Hien mousepad from a very old QcK. You could also say that my own personal growth as a player could've contributed to it as well. Although looking at it objectively it's actually quite funny since I felt that playing the AWP/OP I was more consistent when using an ergo mouse and when rifling I feel more consistent with an ambi mouse. I think even today when I'm playing Rivals, l4d2, BF, or Squad with the boys I still feel the same way.

and XM2W 4K is a much better refined version of that shape

Cloud is closer to Viper V3 Pro and XM2W shape wise. The hump isn't centered but rather pushed back a little. Cloud has very deep grooves on the side and the hump feels flatter even though its only 1mm shorter. IMO the shape isn't that good... people are giving it credit just because it was designed 20 years ago. XM2W is a much better version of that shape.

But is not even close to being the best mouse especially for it’s price. Even the scyrox v6 is better than the super light imo for a lot less. MayaX and viper v3 pro are goated mice last year and for 2025 i think pulsar crazylight and endgame xm2w are the way to go.

Look into End Game Gear. EGG XM2 looks like it belongs in an office not in a pile of rainbow puke.

I just switched my grip so I could use the egg xm2. Nothing actually fits my hand

yeah i did. its now pretty aggressive but im used to it now that i stopped trying to find something that would work and suit my needs. i have a trackball if im not gaming too so that helps

egg op1 or xm2 line, hitscan hyperlight, mchose L7 (I'm getting this one soon)

I have to physically correct the swing. Like changing the natural swing i would do to a more unnatual curve, for me at least. I end up pulling my arm more kinda downwards on a swing to the left and the other way around. There maybe is a Software fix but it mostly roots from the way im Holding my ergo mice. I just Stay on my egg xm2 tbh