G-Wolves - Fenrir Asym 8K Wireless Mouse

I mained the fenrir asym for 3 months and it was the worst decision to sell it to buy a OP1 8k V2. The fenrir asym is the best mouse that I have ever used. The pinky rest gives you so much stability if done right, it‘s miles ahead of any full size mouse and offers more mobility. I have ordered a new one

the OP1 is the best full size mouse in my opinion. The weight, the quality, the clicks are all top tier and especially the shape is great. The thing is that the Asym offers a lot more freedom and together with the sensor position it‘s night and day. With „if done right“ I mean that you need to place the grip tape correctly and put your pinky to the corner of the bulge. this mouse stands and falls with grip tape placement since it‘s uncoated and you need good grip for pure ftip.

As a fingertip gripper it is a straight upgrade. I just wish the fenrir asym had optical switches.

For my specific grip and hand size, gwolves fenrir asym

One cause of instability can be in game nerves/tension messing with the mechanics (which isnt as apparent with larger mice). At least it is for me, it takes me at least 3-4 games before i start relaxing more and locking in (without tension) and the benefits of the mouse really comes through. With that said, i am one of those that rotate the Fenrir Asym in and out, but its more of a comfort thing. When browsing, editing, or just playing really relaxed games precision is not really the highest priority and i might just want to rest my entire hand on something. That doesnt mean i dont perform my best with the Asym and fingertip mice are a gimmick, it just means it's a very specific (and fun!) tool for a specific purpose rather than a swiss army knife i use for everything.

Imma join the choir and sing gospel to the fingertip goat Fenrir Asym, it just has the right things prioritised. Super low clickheight: CHECK. Extra width where needed for comfort: CHECK. Weight in proportion to size: CHECK. Light clicks: CHECK.

Geta Fenrir asim if you can. Or else hsk plus

most people here ftip is not even possible and are just complaining, i use fenrir asym for every game and i its the best mouse if u main ftip, big hands? nope, long fingers? nope, its for a certain type of hands sadly

i personally quite like gwolves, only had a problem with one of their mice currently maining the fenris asym, and it's pretty great

My endgame doesn't really exist. Endgame mouse: fenris asym, but made of carbon fiber. Endgame keyboard: an ergodox, but with the features of a wooting, and with the acoustics of a standard form-factor luxury keyboard (gasket mounted pcb/plate/whatever, multiple layers of foam, nicer plate materials, etc) Currently using the SP-004, it's nice.

agreed if i were to look at a vod of myself playing with too much tension when using the fenris asym, it'd look like ive never held a mouse before lol

Fenrir asym + superglide v1

almost same hand here, 20.8x10.7 I use the hsk pro 4k and the fenris asym, that are the 2 smallest mice available. embrace fingertip. also, that measure is like 90% standard percentile. Unless you can hold a basketball with your palm and not drop it, your hands are average.

Do you fingertip full size mice? If yes then by all means try the hsk pro or fenrir asym, if you palm or claw and never ever switch grips then don't.

I second the fenrir it's a fantastic mouse

I’ll also chime in and say that, as someone with basically the same hand size, I love my fenrir asym. I started with the viper mini -> orochi -> fan tech aria xd7, finger tip grip on all of them, but switching to a finger tip mouse was awesome, to the point now where It feels uncomfy and clunky to use a full sized mouse. The asym is also a noticeable upgrade from the HSK line ( I mained a HSK pro for a couple years), the larger size feels much better and the shape is better IMO. It’s certainly the case that the type of mouse is a love or hate kind of situation, but as a finger tip grip main it’s a godsend. I’ll also add I hard disagree that the mouse isn’t meant for tac FPS’ (a common sentiment I’ve seen). I’ve maintained immortal 3 in Val for a while with this mouse shape, feels great. Again, certainly personal preference but i dont think the shape is inherently bad, just how it suits you personally

G wolves Fenrir Asym will suit the Slendrina hands for sure

Fenrir asym + key83 mid

I +1 the suggestion, this IS tge wat, not the deathadder, but ftiping with nails might be problematic

21 x 11cm hands Personally there is not a single mouse on the market large enough to claw comfortably. If I do have hand contact the scroll wheel is painful to reach. (Trust me I’ve tried every big mouse). Thus I use fingertip grip right now, Crazylight, Fenrir asym, and HTR pro are my favs.

I actually prefer my HTR Pro. I find the pinky rest on the asym gets in the way, so I’m going to add extra layers of grip tape to that side to make it wider and flat. Fantastic mouse though, and a lot of people will prefer that pinky rest.

18x9,5cm hand size, after many, many mices i had, tried the G-Wolves Feneir Asym and I fell in love with it. Before I enjoyed a lot: - LAMZU Atlantis Mini (the 4k and upgraded later to champions edition) - Razer Deathadder v3 hyperspeed (for a short period) - Zaopin Z2 Mini (I was performing incredibly well with it and it’s cheap enough for you to try)

Fenrir Asym’s the best one. Avoid x2f.

What games do you play? Do you need alot of buttons? Op18k is considered the best rn for FPS games I use the Corsair scimitar for wow and gwolves asym for everything else I don't recommend the gwolves asym unless you wanna practice with it alot (it's fingertip only) People are recommendung the g502 but that's old AF and heavy af 120 grams the same as my scimitar but has less buttons and is behind with tech

I have small hands, mm720 was my main, now the fenrir asym. When I first used it, I was surprised by how small it was in hand, but I got used to it. Medium-sized hands may find it too small.

F The fenrir asym is the endgame fingertip mouse, 20 g with scroll wheel and side buttons

17x9, Fenrir Asym, low height and no palm removes limited movements

do it, lovin it, stock dots are pretty good

those arent ftip mice, real ftip mice have no hump, but yes i have fried others, mostly my own abominations that i made with MM712 nad Crazylight, and surprisingly tge x2 crazylight non modded works well with ftip, but after fenrir asym, nothing can beat jt

You can try the pulsar x2f or the gwolves Fenrir asym

Another vote to the Fenrir Asym, also you could use the Gwolves clay or thick grip tape to pad it out a bit more and match the Viper width.

New Gwolves Fenrir Pro 8K - blind buy for 109$ 18.6 G vs Fenrir Asymm 159 g 20.4 g - I hear it’s good for people not used to fingertip grip whereas the other one looks like the Max which I hear fingertip purest like but gotta wait till November for it to start shipping… Grip - relaxed fingertip where your fingers are totally extended and hand optionally rests on pad so your wrist range is maxed Or… If you really want to max your wrist range then pre-order the 35 g G-wolve VUK 8K and use the forward sensor and grab the booty of the mouse Or… Use your arm to aim because the grip I described is how I fingertip because it’s based off pure palm grip so you’d probably have to relearn how to aim anyway

I have a Fenrir Asym, and it’s nicely built and stupidly light, but I’ve since bought the Scyrox v8 on a bit of a whim and I’ve realised how much I missed the balance and control of a full-sized mouse. V8 wins for me.

It’s a gimmick and that’s coming from someone who mains this mouse since release. I love the mouse, but the thing about fingertip is that you can fingertip any mouse and basically get the same results. I get nearly identical scores on aim labs with my dav3 while fingertipping it vs my asym. I’ve kinda turned into anti mice person, it doesn’t really matter what mouse you use as long as the specs are good and it’s comfortable to you.

I have a fenrir Asym. Its for sure a honemoon phase with most fingertip mice IMO. Youll get adjusted to shape/weight in Aim Training but eventually hand cramps will set in, you wont be able to play as long and youll start aiming poorly and switch back to whatever you were using before. I think if you could maintain a really light grip and and use a fast mousepad they are good for track heavy games but for tac shooters where you need stability its not as great. It will highlight problems in your aim.

some of the old g-wolves mice are terrible. but when i picked up the fenrir asym i was shocked how solid it felt being 20 grams and no bottom. Their click latency is also super low. Id say on par with or better than something like the x2 crazylight. Ive read some horror stories though.

recently I picked up the PD 150 + from vaxee and I would have to say that.

Another vote for the Fenrir Asym. I got it two months ago and its been a godsend. It took me a while to adjust after years of maining a first gen Model O- (modded to be wireless), so I was used to extremely slim shapes (O- has a very distinct hourglass taper that makes it feel slimmer than it is). The Fenrir Asym's extruded portion for the pinkie makes it feel wider and really makes it so much more comfortable to keep a relaxed fingertip grip and micro adjustments using fingers is effortless. Absolutely no creak or flex on my unit. No play in the button presses either.

Fenrir asym is awesome But if you want to b really safe go with ht-s2 pro 8k since it's easily fingertipablr and still retains the viper shape (smaller than viper mini and 28. Something grams)

I would even use my own affeliate Code to buy another asym as spare that's how I like it by now

No going back for me. I got the fenrir and I don't know if I'm a much better gamer but the feeling is out of this world. You have to learn to be more relax with your aim tho, but that's a plus to me (less pain). Unlike others, I don't feel like I have stability issues. I have a relax fingertip grip (or something similar lol) so I'm still aiming mostly with my arm, I just do micro adjustment with my finger maybe that's why?

Id highly recommend something like the gwolves fenrir asym or other pure fingertip style mice. Removing the back half of the mouse makes the weight distribution feel so much better for fingertip grip. At like 21g even going back to my ULX small feels heavy when I first pick it up

G wolves lol, why isnnt it on the list it clears those cheapos by such a long mile

If you've never tried ftip before, this is an expensive experiment. I've been doing ftip since 2021, and got the asym for it's blind buy price, it's worth it for me but that's really niche. I don't think it's viable for you man, try out a keychron m4 or smth cheap first

Yeah, i also cramped up on the hsk. Fernir asym has completely solved it for me, and my grip is much more relaxed now. My mouse control is also way better

People recommending the x2f have never used it and it shows lol. Buy the fenrir asym, itns way ablve and beyond anythong elde in the ftip market. I hated my time with the zeromouse but the asym is insanely comfortable and performs so well

The more time I've spent drawing and searching for good mie shapes, the closer I got to the Fenrir Asym design. To me it's peak mouse ergonomics thanks to the low click height, /\ shape and that pinky hump that allows for a wider resting hand position. What you're drawing is well, just that

Are the omron mini switches mechanical? I do really like them in the asym but I’m unaware of whether they are mechanical or not.

I have both! I prefer the asym. I find the coating to feel nicer and I like the low profile of it as well as clicks feel better. The back right flare is a nice addition but I don’t find it to be that noticeable. The max feels bigger and taller.

Fenrir asym is sooo good. I was the furthest thing from fingertip user and the asym completely changed that. Only mouse I’ll never sell(unless they update it). Way better than the Max for me as well.

Fenrir Asym and TJX KinX

The fenrir asym is beast

Man since I got my fenrir it has been on my desk. If it dies I used the htr but as soon as it has enough juice I use the fenrir. IMO it’s def my favourite mouse

I have a fenrir, great mouse. Great for games but I’d always recommend the regular hsk pro 4k or the Miao before you consider the asym

G-Wolves has a bunch of options. They make the best ftip. Fenrir is all the rage right now but my fav is still hsk pro

HSK plus is better. G wolves for sure has better build quality than Darmoshark and sensor implementation. I have multiple mice from both brands.

G-wolves Fenrir, WLMouse Miao, Darmoshark M5 Air, Keychron M4 for pure fingertip grip. Small mice, I would look at the WLMouse Beast X Mini, Zowie FK2-DW, Vaxee XE-S, Waizowl Cloud XS, Hitscan Hyperlight/ATK F1 Extreme, or Scyrox V6.

I’ve tried many over the last year, I think it really just depends on your preference of curved vs flat sides: Curved FM ULX, flat sides Pulsar X2 Crazy light. Also tried the G wolves fenrir which I really liked but caused quite a bit of hand pain overtime.

This parallels my experience when I transitioned from a FM ULX small to the G wolves Fenrir, I have a WL Mouse beast X Mini in route to transition back to smaller format mice. While I enjoyed the increased flick speed of the Fenrir similar to your own experience , I noticed the lack of stability between my main two anchor points (thumb & pinky) was forced to be completely parallel to the mouse which lead to my wrist feeling somewhat locked. Personally, being able to have those anchor points at a slightly angle really contributes to stability on those longer flicks I’ve noticed. After experimenting with different FT and smaller formats I really feel like the main contributes for comfort with FT grip come down to: hump size, enough length to allow for FT vertical adjustments and as low click wobble as you can find, there seems to be a strong suggestion for flat sides but in my personal experience with the newest crazy light it’s a matter of taste.

Agreed, G-Wolves offers shapes that 'force' you to adapt to them-- HSK, HTR, Fenrir, and so on; they're unique, and you conform to them (whenever possible, anyways). Pulsar's latest series featuring custom pro shapes are derivatives of existing shapes-- which makes sense, since pros mained well known mice beforehand anyways. The X2F is the only unique thing they've got, and in all honesty, it's not something super tantalizing for a fingertip-only user.

G wolves is honestly underrated. I understand the criticism against them, but they are undeniably the most innovative mouse company at the moment, especially in terms of weight.

Me in the corner with my G-Wolves, all alone.

Go with G Wolves on this one. Enjoy!

Once you go gwolves you never go back

I mostly use it to play aim trainer have no problem. But when playing fps game it does get a bit unstable when I trying to hold my m2 and try to lift off the mouse to reposition to mid of the mousepad. I think it is something to get used to. And yea if the click is lighter that would be an improvement I guess.

All gwolves mice comes with grip tape incase you don’t like their “golf ball” texture

Most people find it comfortable, so there’s really no need to change things up. They would probably make a new color variation than make a shape that’s gonna satisfy a small portion of the community. That said, there are promising products like Orbital Pathfinder, or G-wolves with their clay kit. Even if those aren’t within your reach, you can still try things out with a grip tape. It’ll help with the positioning and the grip itself, letting you hold the move effortlessly.

The battery isn't a bad thing, compared to say your rechargeable ones getting shorter and shorter runtimes as the months go by (my pulsar, basilisk v3, gwolves barely hold decent charge). I just swapped out my pro click mini batts after months, with weeks waiting to replace it with extra batteries on hand. I tried swapping out batteries on my g pros and it didn't end well. So yeah, replaceable batteries are good a good thing for me now :D

Not being able to change the color or turn it off is the only thing that pisses me off. Even Pulsar and G-wolves have that feature.

Oh man I had a bad G-Wolves mouse that sent me spiraling into gaming mice lmao I for sure get that. Based on everything you listed I think you should check out the Mchose L7 for sure. The original L7 is like an in-between of a X2 Mini (same shape as the Crazy light) and the Scyrox V8 (Sora V2) it's like a smaller overall mouse but has some really solid curves towards the front off the rear hump that gave you a really nice locked in feeling. The L7+ is a Sora V1 clone but honestly feels like the TenZ without a big ass rear hump to me. What are you rocking in the Pathfinder BTW? I'mixing between the LXM-110, the LAH-222 and currently doing LAM-110 build. I think what I need is something like an NP-01s honestly (which uh...is in the mail with an EC3 right now for me lmao) but VGN just dropped the Y2 so if I like the shape I may get that since its a super solid company.

Argueably, Gwolves is the king of Fingertip shapes. as a person who swaps mice alot, having a fingertip in a rotation every once and a while can REALLY help you're fine adjustment skills once you move back.

Weird take calling him a marketing Junkie and defending Logitech to the blood. I was a long time Logitech user and even tried a lot of razer mice but getting my first glorious mouse opened a new world for me. I tried some mice from lamzu, ninjutso, G-Wolves. And to my surprise they all felt better and were cheaper with at least the same quality. Hanging on brands like Logitech and Razer, etc is bad it think. It makes them stop moving forward, being innovative and sell their mice for a more competitive price.

I really like g-wolves mice, but this one is too big for me.

On brand alone I’d go with G-Wolves any day