G-Wolves - Hati-M HTM ACE Wireless Gaming Mouse

I'll paste what I said on another post a few days ago::: "Start budget friendly before buying big $$$. There's a mass of under $50 usd mice that are great. Obvious things first: Shape preference: Do you want Ergo or Ambi, this correlates with your grip style (finger, claw, palm, or hybrid of any) Size: Do you have big hands or small hands Testing: Do you have any computer related stores near you to try them out, like display models Affordability: Don't always look at the "best" option. There may be some $40 mouse that you fall crazy for. Wired or wireless: preference, these days they perform equal to eachother with minimal latency variation Weight: Do you want light (40-60g) medium (60-80g) or heavier side (80g+) this can also fall onto your playstyle. More fast and snappy, or slow and steady Do some solid research and try to find something suited for your hands. It took me years of buying mice and wasting money to find that I perform the best with a G pro wireless shape and 40-60g weight. I'm a palm/claw hybrid grip and are fast-paced and snappy. Also, have larger hands at 21x11.5cm. I cant stress enough, you dont need to spend over $100 on a "the pros use this" mouse... in the end if that is what you like, then by all means! If it makes you happy, and you'll use it for years, then it's worth it. I fell in love with the G-Wolves Hati HTM for shooters and fast games, and also have the Zowie EC1-CW for chill out, lean-back & relax games. **Many people use multiple mice.** You don't always have to settle on one. If the budget fits 2, and you find 2 different mice for different things **and you like them both for different usage**, then do it. If you find a mouse you like for example the g pro wireless; you can go to "eloshapes" website and in the compare size tool it will show you other mice with the same or close to the same size and shape."

I see. I think you missed that part? Or I missed reading it. I have a Hati fingertip mouse. Sometimes it's nice. I find having mice of a variety of shapes and also ones that allow a variety of positions helps prevent repetitve strain injuries. My favorite shapes are ZA13-like and FK1-like. If ZA12 was 1mm shorter, it would be the best...

I'm with ya on all that, but I happen to like the weight. I've only had one mouse (g wolves hati) that was lighter than my model o and I don't think I want to go any lighter, but maybe I haven't tried the right one.

Me in the corner with my G-Wolves, all alone.

Most people find it comfortable, so there’s really no need to change things up. They would probably make a new color variation than make a shape that’s gonna satisfy a small portion of the community. That said, there are promising products like Orbital Pathfinder, or G-wolves with their clay kit. Even if those aren’t within your reach, you can still try things out with a grip tape. It’ll help with the positioning and the grip itself, letting you hold the move effortlessly.

Not being able to change the color or turn it off is the only thing that pisses me off. Even Pulsar and G-wolves have that feature.

Oh man I had a bad G-Wolves mouse that sent me spiraling into gaming mice lmao I for sure get that. Based on everything you listed I think you should check out the Mchose L7 for sure. The original L7 is like an in-between of a X2 Mini (same shape as the Crazy light) and the Scyrox V8 (Sora V2) it's like a smaller overall mouse but has some really solid curves towards the front off the rear hump that gave you a really nice locked in feeling. The L7+ is a Sora V1 clone but honestly feels like the TenZ without a big ass rear hump to me. What are you rocking in the Pathfinder BTW? I'mixing between the LXM-110, the LAH-222 and currently doing LAM-110 build. I think what I need is something like an NP-01s honestly (which uh...is in the mail with an EC3 right now for me lmao) but VGN just dropped the Y2 so if I like the shape I may get that since its a super solid company.

Weird take calling him a marketing Junkie and defending Logitech to the blood. I was a long time Logitech user and even tried a lot of razer mice but getting my first glorious mouse opened a new world for me. I tried some mice from lamzu, ninjutso, G-Wolves. And to my surprise they all felt better and were cheaper with at least the same quality. Hanging on brands like Logitech and Razer, etc is bad it think. It makes them stop moving forward, being innovative and sell their mice for a more competitive price.

I really like g-wolves mice, but this one is too big for me.

On brand alone I’d go with G-Wolves any day