G-Wolves - Hati-S ACE Wireless (HTS ACE Wireless)

I've used all the biggest gaming mice (Zowie EC1, Intellimouse Pro) for years with palm grip and I recently snagged a smaller, lighter mouse because it was on deep sale and it instantly made my aim better because I can now take advantage of my finger tips and wrist more. I'm still trying to get over the shock of how much I like the smaller mouse. Here's [a comparison](https://i.imgur.com/CdupkIU.png). I guess I'm saying all this to say don't be afraid to try something totally different, you might be surprised.

I can't speak to the exact dimensions since they look similar in a picture, but the way it feels in the hand is significantly different. With the symmetrical Hati, I've switched to fingertip grip, from palm with the Zowie. Now imagine drawing a square with the mouse, let's say this represents your immediate active aiming area before needing to really move your forearm. I'm finding that the symmetrical sides of the Hati, which make the mouse feel much skinnier in the hand, especially on the right side is allowing me to draw a square that is at least twice the size of the Zowie. It's allowing me to keep my same low sensitivity, still make big swipes with my arm, but now I've opened up a larger field of aim that I can snap to with my fingers and wrist more quickly and accurately than I could with my palm grip arm-aim style. Hopefully that made sense and was useful in some way.

I really like the [G-wolves Hati](https://i.imgur.com/CdupkIU.png), I just swapped to it after using the EC1 for the last several years. It's lighter and symmetrical, my aim is a lot better already.

Thank god I got attached to the OP1 shape, I had the same issue of 27 mice. * OP1 8K White + Corepads * OP1w v2 4K Dark Frost * OP1we White * XM1r Dark Frost * Starlight Pro TenZ Small + Tiger ICE * HSK Plus Lite Pink * Hati S Ace Wireless + Corepads * Hati S Plus 4K Transparent Black * Hati S Plus 4K White + Obsidian Dots * Hati S Plus Classic + Ghostglide Dots * HTX 4K Ruby Red + Obsidian Dots * Lamzu Atlantis Mini * Logitech G Pro Superlight White * Pulsar X2 Super Clear Mini * Pulsar X2H Mini Black * Pulsar Xlite Mini Black + Corepads + Grips * Pulsar Xlite V2 Red * Razer Orochi V2 White + Superglides * Razer Viper Mini + Corepads * Sprime PM1 * Vaxee NP-01S Blue Wireless + BTL Grips * Vaxee NP-01S White * Vaxee Outset AX Funspark * Vaxee XE White * Xtrfy MZ1 + Corepads * Zowie EC2-A + Corepads * Zowie ZA13-C + Corepads

I had the hati s and thats one of the regrets I have was getting rid of it. May look into the hts-2. With looking back at gwolves

I see. I think you missed that part? Or I missed reading it. I have a Hati fingertip mouse. Sometimes it's nice. I find having mice of a variety of shapes and also ones that allow a variety of positions helps prevent repetitve strain injuries. My favorite shapes are ZA13-like and FK1-like. If ZA12 was 1mm shorter, it would be the best...

Hitscan hyperlight, ATK F1 ULTIMATE, pwnage trinity, maya 8k/maya X, g-wolves hati-s ultra

I’m similar, I’m trying the HTS ultra for its shape but not for the weight. Just miss that shape I tried years ago on the og HTS

The OG g-wolves HTS >>>

HSK pro ace, 5k hrs

I have medium/large hands and I prefer to use HSK ACE pro or a superlight mouse like the FinalMouse Greek Gods edition Small size. And I don’t move my elbows - I just literally move my fingers to aim. I use a skypad 3.0 XL or a cerapad Kin and I barely use 10-15% of the pad surface area. This is because I grew up with a tiny desk using those 8x5” 3M mousepads you can get at Staples. I also don’t play those aim training games. Just hop in pop heads talk shit and log out. Also AI anime limited edition mousepads are kind of dumb. There’s a lot of collaborations that can be done with video game artists, concept artists, heck - even tattoo artists like Nissaco would have dope sales and don’t have to end up with some convoluted licensing agreement.

Yeah that’s me. I need it short and low. Settled with an HSK ace pro and nothing touches the back of my hand I don’t even move my arm, just move the mouse with my fingers with my wrist firmly planted

I had the HSK+ and HSK pro ace. I didn't like the HSK+ because the mouse gets thinner towards the back, whereas the pro ace gets wider. I wouldn't recommend the HSK+ for that reason

Hsk pro ace w/ obsidian reds and tekkusai singularity.

I'm with ya on all that, but I happen to like the weight. I've only had one mouse (g wolves hati) that was lighter than my model o and I don't think I want to go any lighter, but maybe I haven't tried the right one.

G wolves is honestly underrated. I understand the criticism against them, but they are undeniably the most innovative mouse company at the moment, especially in terms of weight.

Me in the corner with my G-Wolves, all alone.

Go with G Wolves on this one. Enjoy!

Once you go gwolves you never go back

I mostly use it to play aim trainer have no problem. But when playing fps game it does get a bit unstable when I trying to hold my m2 and try to lift off the mouse to reposition to mid of the mousepad. I think it is something to get used to. And yea if the click is lighter that would be an improvement I guess.

All gwolves mice comes with grip tape incase you don’t like their “golf ball” texture

Most people find it comfortable, so there’s really no need to change things up. They would probably make a new color variation than make a shape that’s gonna satisfy a small portion of the community. That said, there are promising products like Orbital Pathfinder, or G-wolves with their clay kit. Even if those aren’t within your reach, you can still try things out with a grip tape. It’ll help with the positioning and the grip itself, letting you hold the move effortlessly.

The battery isn't a bad thing, compared to say your rechargeable ones getting shorter and shorter runtimes as the months go by (my pulsar, basilisk v3, gwolves barely hold decent charge). I just swapped out my pro click mini batts after months, with weeks waiting to replace it with extra batteries on hand. I tried swapping out batteries on my g pros and it didn't end well. So yeah, replaceable batteries are good a good thing for me now :D

Not being able to change the color or turn it off is the only thing that pisses me off. Even Pulsar and G-wolves have that feature.

HSK plus is better. G wolves for sure has better build quality than Darmoshark and sensor implementation. I have multiple mice from both brands.

Oh man I had a bad G-Wolves mouse that sent me spiraling into gaming mice lmao I for sure get that. Based on everything you listed I think you should check out the Mchose L7 for sure. The original L7 is like an in-between of a X2 Mini (same shape as the Crazy light) and the Scyrox V8 (Sora V2) it's like a smaller overall mouse but has some really solid curves towards the front off the rear hump that gave you a really nice locked in feeling. The L7+ is a Sora V1 clone but honestly feels like the TenZ without a big ass rear hump to me. What are you rocking in the Pathfinder BTW? I'mixing between the LXM-110, the LAH-222 and currently doing LAM-110 build. I think what I need is something like an NP-01s honestly (which uh...is in the mail with an EC3 right now for me lmao) but VGN just dropped the Y2 so if I like the shape I may get that since its a super solid company.

Argueably, Gwolves is the king of Fingertip shapes. as a person who swaps mice alot, having a fingertip in a rotation every once and a while can REALLY help you're fine adjustment skills once you move back.

Weird take calling him a marketing Junkie and defending Logitech to the blood. I was a long time Logitech user and even tried a lot of razer mice but getting my first glorious mouse opened a new world for me. I tried some mice from lamzu, ninjutso, G-Wolves. And to my surprise they all felt better and were cheaper with at least the same quality. Hanging on brands like Logitech and Razer, etc is bad it think. It makes them stop moving forward, being innovative and sell their mice for a more competitive price.

I really like g-wolves mice, but this one is too big for me.

G wolves lol, why isnnt it on the list it clears those cheapos by such a long mile

On brand alone I’d go with G-Wolves any day