HSK Pro 4K Wireless Mouse

I was on the fence about buying the Beast Miao after using the HSK Pro 4k, HTR Pro, and X2F beta. As someone who has always fingertip gripped, I was previously using the Pulsar X2 Mini and other "small but normal" mice and made it work. But when I moved to the HSK full time, things started working so much better for me. The Beast Miao is my favorite fingertip grip mouse because of its width, contoured sides, crazy strong construction, and weight. It'll be hard for something to replace this one, I tried the Fenrir Max and found it too wide for my liking.

Hey everyone, I’ve been using a relaxed claw grip for a while, but I picked up a used G Wolves HSK Pro recently to finally try fingertip grip. My main motivations were to break my bad habit of pushing my mouse down into my pad when spraying/shooting, and to see if the precision offered by fingertip gripping would help me be more consistent. For context: * Current pad: Artisan Hyate Otsu Soft * Tried hard pads before (Padsmith Empress, OG TJ Exclusives Cerapad). I stuck with the Cerapad for a bit, but eventually moved back to cloth. * Previous main mice: Scyrox V8, Ninjutso Sora V2, Fantech Helios II Pro (though I have plenty of others, they don't see much use). Side note, the 28 gram hsk makes my scyrox and sora feel heavy, which I never thought I would say. What I’ve noticed so far: * Small–medium flicks feel way more consistent. My headshot % in Valorant actually jumped from \~23% the week before to 31% this past week since picking up the mouse. * On the flip side, my micro-tracking and general tracking (especially vs strafing/counter-strafing targets) feel much worse. It’s like I’ve lost some of the control/engagement I had with my wrist/arm when clawing. * I've also felt like my longer flicks that require me to turn more have gotten less accurate (especially close range). This might also be from the same issue as my previous point. I’m guessing this might just be an adjustment thing since fingertip is such a different experience (and the HSK is so unlike any other mouse I’ve used). I have a G Wolves HT-S2 on the way that I’m hoping will let me fingertip comfortably but also give me the option to pull the mouse into my palm for some claw gripping if needed, maybe the best of both worlds. Another thought: the sensor placement feels noticeably different, which could also be throwing me off. Has anyone else run into these issues when switching to fingertip grip? Any tips on trying to engage my wrist and arm more... just time/practice? Appreciate any insights!

I would vouch for the Finalmouse Starlight small series or something similar to that size (and probably weight). I actually gifted mine to my brother since he was stuck on MX518 for a decade and he loved the starlight. I main the HSK Pro Ace but I still think about that Starlight. I still fiddle around with it everytime I go to his place haha.

Doesn’t have to be finalmouse but as long as it’s similar shape and weight. Pulsar might have something but the I didn’t like the X2 mini - maybe because it was heavier. The optical switches from their Bruce Lee edition weren’t that light.

I have medium/large hands and I prefer to use HSK ACE pro or a superlight mouse like the FinalMouse Greek Gods edition Small size. And I don’t move my elbows - I just literally move my fingers to aim. I use a skypad 3.0 XL or a cerapad Kin and I barely use 10-15% of the pad surface area. This is because I grew up with a tiny desk using those 8x5” 3M mousepads you can get at Staples. I also don’t play those aim training games. Just hop in pop heads talk shit and log out. Also AI anime limited edition mousepads are kind of dumb. There’s a lot of collaborations that can be done with video game artists, concept artists, heck - even tattoo artists like Nissaco would have dope sales and don’t have to end up with some convoluted licensing agreement.

Yeah that’s me. I need it short and low. Settled with an HSK ace pro and nothing touches the back of my hand I don’t even move my arm, just move the mouse with my fingers with my wrist firmly planted

hsk pro 4k >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fenrir asym

almost same hand here, 20.8x10.7 I use the hsk pro 4k and the fenris asym, that are the 2 smallest mice available. embrace fingertip. also, that measure is like 90% standard percentile. Unless you can hold a basketball with your palm and not drop it, your hands are average.

hsk is the best ftip mice ever bad thing about gwolves, is that instead of continuing evolving with them and making even a little bit narrower to go to that "stylus / pen writing precission", now they are doing them but wider, which feels awful for a ftip mice.

What do you think of the main clicks / the switches inside? I run the HSK 4K and the Fenrir Asym looks like it might address the ring and pinky finger placement issues that I have with the HSK, but the HSK has what I consider to be easily the best mouse switches on the planet and I'm not sure I can move to anything that isn't as crisp feeling without missing them. Seriously, Zippy DF3-P1L1's are so sick. It kind of looks like the Fenrir Asym uses even smaller switches inside that are SMD mounted, so I couldn't replace them with P1L1's if I wanted to.

I was an early adopter for the HSK 4K when it launched (I was part of the batch that came with *spicy* batteries) and hadn't used ftip before. I pretty much adjusted within a few hours, it felt incredibly natural to me. Being able to move your arm for big movements and moving the mouse within your hand for small adjustments is so incredibly helpful. I was a relaxed claw grip before and noticed when I had to clutch or otherwise perform better, I noticeably tensed up my hand which ended up changing my grip - and sometimes led to cramps in my hand. That has not happened to me once since using my HSK and I honestly don't think I can go back to regular mice for video game use.

I have a fenrir, great mouse. Great for games but I’d always recommend the regular hsk pro 4k or the Miao before you consider the asym

Budget Darmshark m5 / keychron m4 / hsk plus mini (budget gwolves option Premium X2F, largest ‘ftip’ mouse, and can be a solid entryway into ftip if you don’t mind the weight Wlmouse Miao and Hsk pro 4k, probably the best safe ftip mice due to shape and size being perfect for beginners and pros Fenris asym, this one is hard to recommend for first time ftip due to its odder shape but if you love it you realllly love it (I love mine)

I see. I think you missed that part? Or I missed reading it. I have a Hati fingertip mouse. Sometimes it's nice. I find having mice of a variety of shapes and also ones that allow a variety of positions helps prevent repetitve strain injuries. My favorite shapes are ZA13-like and FK1-like. If ZA12 was 1mm shorter, it would be the best...