G-Wolves - HTM PLUS 8K Wireless Mouse

damn.. I see the gwolves HTM plus to be large enough, maybe if you palm grip switch to claw overtime.

cheers !! XEv2 < a bit on the heavier side. Ten Air is really nice only $90. And today I got the HTM Plus which will be the mouse of the year, It's a large hand 33g mouse that just released

i have the atk duckbill with the matching 54h20 mcu dongle and i definitely feel like my flicks are a lot more precise, no clue if it's placebo, but idc if it still makes me play better also got g wolves HTM Plus but it sits in my drawer until they fix the sensor stuttering issue during slow tracking. Otherwise, it's an amazing shape for me and i love the clicks I have the updated g wolves htx mini with lighter clicks and 3950 on the way and it arrives tuesday :)

i got mine today, mouse stutters and lags on any polling rate when slow tracking. it is hard to notice at 1000hz, but definitely there when you're moving your mouse slowly, conversely same thing happens with very low dpi (such as 150dpi) and moving your arm fast across your pad fluidly, not too fast not too slow. i put the dot skates on both sides of the sensor as they recommended, but it did NOT fix the issue. I do not have this issue when wired at all, only when connected to the wireless receiver, * tried different cords tried different ports * tried having the receiver on my mousepad literally a couple of inches from the mouse * tried full size skates front and back end + 3 dots to the left and 3 to the right of the sensor. * tried different mousepads (all FIRM bases such as my type-99 and Errennir Gecko, and a few of the other pads i have * tried all LOD settings * tried different combinations of settings within the software yet nothing resolves it * tried resetting the mouse a few times I would have tried pairing the mouse to the receiver again, but G-Wolves does not have an application I could find that is compatible with the HTM Plus. Also, the issue occurs moving at any speed when using polling rates 4000hz and 8000hz and is very apparent. I have over 12 different mice and none have this issue, I use 4k polling on most of my mice, and 8k on a few. My pc is overbuilt and definitely not the issue, again, NONE of my mice have this issue, not even the ATK Duckbill with its new 54h20 mcu inside the mouse and its newer receiver, both of which are using the same MCU as the HTM Plus (that's if g wolves saying "Nordic 54 series High Performance is true). My Windows 11 installation is healthy and free of corruption (i used command prompt to run the DISM restorehealth command and sfc /scannow, but no corruption was found). switching between all of my mice and not a single one has an issue. They are all OFF inside my desktop drawer which I just verified by checking each of them. There must be a serious firmware bug with the HTM Plus, there is no router anywhere near me, i have a professionally installed ethernet cable that runs through my walls across the house to my room. Very upset about this, hoping for a firmware update quickly so I can actually use the mouse ive been looking forward to for so long. I've heard from a couple of other people they've been having sensor related issues as well, but I thought I was in the clear when they mentioned it, but i was using wired to let it charge fully only to realize i have the same issue once I connected wirelessly, Really hoping this is only a firmware bug and not a faulty receiver or mouse. Can anyone else that received/will receive theirs try changing their dpi to something low like 150 dpi and fluidly moving their mouse across a mousepad (a smooth glide across, not too fast not too slow) and see if their cursor stutters/skips. It's easier to test it this way to rule out human error. Also try 4k and 8k polling rate if you know your system can handle it normally.

Nope, I updated to 0.0.5.0 for mouse and receiver that they released yesterday and reset the mouse after but issue is the same, I even tried putting donuts on top of my full size skates lol but this doesn’t feel like a lod issue at all, after doubling my skates the lod feels as it should feel, but the cursor stutter remains the same. Apparently there is going to be another firmware update soon tho, so fingers crossed they found the issue and are resolving it, I was pretty detailed with what the issue is with support and sent a clip of it, I explained my issue to someone else with a HTM Plus that didn’t think they had any issues until they tried slow tracking with a line in MS Paint and the cursor stutters and the click being held stopped registering, and the line stopped drawing when the stutter occurred, so I think it’s likely a firmware issue and all units should be affected

This thing finally showed up at my house after months of waiting so its incredibly exciting. The weight is not a lie its actually 33g on my scale. Web driver seems to be completely broken though and wont detect the mouse, hopefully that will be fixed soon. Besides that i cant find any issues so far. Clicks are light and crispy. Golf ball texture is weird but not noticable when in game. Forward sensor feels so good along with the low button height. Illkeep testing feel free to ask any questions

19x11 and i like it so far, compared to gpx it actually feels a bit smaller and more nimble in the hand while maintaining that bulbousness in the back of ur palm that the gpx hits compared to other claw mice like viper or maya which taper off at that back hump part. best way i can describe it is like give me the sides and length of a viper, the back hump of a gpx, and the flatness of the xe v2 :D

yeah still feels slippery despite the golf ball texture, will probly need grip tape

its definitely really solid, i mean i feel like i could break it if i really tried my hardest but just squeezing it regularly theres no creaking or anything

thinner and feels more back hump focused, i can see if some people palmed the gpx they would relax claw the htm plus. the button height is extremely low and there are comfort grooves on top of that that make it seem even lower. id say this was more viper v3 pro inspired than superlight inspired, it just has the superlight back hump

to me it does seem slightly thinner than a viper but noticably thinner than the gpx

i posted my impression of the shape in another comment, but its a size down from the gpx for sure, i like that i have more maneuverability also its a pretty long mouse but not very wide compared to its length. ive heard people call the vv3p a "pencil holder" shape but this definitely fits the description more haha. i like it though its very unique and i like that its rounded in the back, makes it great for relaxed claw

GWolves HTM Plus - I hated it because it had one of those stupid OP1 claw grip humps but if you claw grip you might like it

I received my copy of the mouse two days ago and it’s basically unusable. When I press it down against the mousepad, the sensor freaks out and stops tracking properly. Adding two layers of skates didn’t help at all. I doubt this can be fixed with firmware updates since it seems like a design flaw — the sensor is probably placed too low.

I just received the mouse and have the exact same issues you do. Seems to be very apparent when pulling down on the mouse. I've updated the mouse/receiver firmware too. Did you manage to resolve it? I suspect we may need to wait for a firmware update

G wolves is honestly underrated. I understand the criticism against them, but they are undeniably the most innovative mouse company at the moment, especially in terms of weight.

Me in the corner with my G-Wolves, all alone.

Go with G Wolves on this one. Enjoy!

Once you go gwolves you never go back

I mostly use it to play aim trainer have no problem. But when playing fps game it does get a bit unstable when I trying to hold my m2 and try to lift off the mouse to reposition to mid of the mousepad. I think it is something to get used to. And yea if the click is lighter that would be an improvement I guess.

All gwolves mice comes with grip tape incase you don’t like their “golf ball” texture

Most people find it comfortable, so there’s really no need to change things up. They would probably make a new color variation than make a shape that’s gonna satisfy a small portion of the community. That said, there are promising products like Orbital Pathfinder, or G-wolves with their clay kit. Even if those aren’t within your reach, you can still try things out with a grip tape. It’ll help with the positioning and the grip itself, letting you hold the move effortlessly.

The battery isn't a bad thing, compared to say your rechargeable ones getting shorter and shorter runtimes as the months go by (my pulsar, basilisk v3, gwolves barely hold decent charge). I just swapped out my pro click mini batts after months, with weeks waiting to replace it with extra batteries on hand. I tried swapping out batteries on my g pros and it didn't end well. So yeah, replaceable batteries are good a good thing for me now :D

Not being able to change the color or turn it off is the only thing that pisses me off. Even Pulsar and G-wolves have that feature.

HSK plus is better. G wolves for sure has better build quality than Darmoshark and sensor implementation. I have multiple mice from both brands.

Oh man I had a bad G-Wolves mouse that sent me spiraling into gaming mice lmao I for sure get that. Based on everything you listed I think you should check out the Mchose L7 for sure. The original L7 is like an in-between of a X2 Mini (same shape as the Crazy light) and the Scyrox V8 (Sora V2) it's like a smaller overall mouse but has some really solid curves towards the front off the rear hump that gave you a really nice locked in feeling. The L7+ is a Sora V1 clone but honestly feels like the TenZ without a big ass rear hump to me. What are you rocking in the Pathfinder BTW? I'mixing between the LXM-110, the LAH-222 and currently doing LAM-110 build. I think what I need is something like an NP-01s honestly (which uh...is in the mail with an EC3 right now for me lmao) but VGN just dropped the Y2 so if I like the shape I may get that since its a super solid company.

Argueably, Gwolves is the king of Fingertip shapes. as a person who swaps mice alot, having a fingertip in a rotation every once and a while can REALLY help you're fine adjustment skills once you move back.

Weird take calling him a marketing Junkie and defending Logitech to the blood. I was a long time Logitech user and even tried a lot of razer mice but getting my first glorious mouse opened a new world for me. I tried some mice from lamzu, ninjutso, G-Wolves. And to my surprise they all felt better and were cheaper with at least the same quality. Hanging on brands like Logitech and Razer, etc is bad it think. It makes them stop moving forward, being innovative and sell their mice for a more competitive price.

I really like g-wolves mice, but this one is too big for me.

G wolves lol, why isnnt it on the list it clears those cheapos by such a long mile

On brand alone I’d go with G-Wolves any day