VUK 8K Wireless Mouse

I use the normal sensor, not the one way up front. It’s still a bit more forward than the typical sensor position, more like midway into the front side button, as opposed to right on the middle, so it feels faster, still.

I have to date had no issues at all with game play, mouse performs great. I think the thing that makes it special is that it is a true midsize mouse at that light weight, but the length is a little bit long for my tastes, I like to use my fingertips a lot more.

G-Wolves Vuk if you want to switch between fingertip and other grips (it has dual 3950 sensors, one underneath the scroll wheel and another in a forward sensor position). Or G-Wolves Fenrir Pro if you want a shape dedicated to fingertip (currently on blind buy for $109, or $99 with a discount code like "ELO").

New Gwolves Fenrir Pro 8K - blind buy for 109$ 18.6 G vs Fenrir Asymm 159 g 20.4 g - I hear it’s good for people not used to fingertip grip whereas the other one looks like the Max which I hear fingertip purest like but gotta wait till November for it to start shipping… Grip - relaxed fingertip where your fingers are totally extended and hand optionally rests on pad so your wrist range is maxed Or… If you really want to max your wrist range then pre-order the 35 g G-wolve VUK 8K and use the forward sensor and grab the booty of the mouse Or… Use your arm to aim because the grip I described is how I fingertip because it’s based off pure palm grip so you’d probably have to relearn how to aim anyway

G-Wolves HTX Ultra, Vuk, or the new Lycan. Like someone said, might be rolling the dice on quality, but I have used 5 G-Wolves mice in the last few months and have not had an issues. Technically not optical switches, but they are still incredibly fast clicks.

It's an issue with a lot of things. Currently the mouse market is in a state it's never been in before where instead of it being tons of unique and original shapes it is a market flooded with either Chinese clones as good as the originals or originals from Chinese clones to the point where you have a new mouse coming out every other week. Instead of just following what works best from the top brands I can recommend four different brands and you can get a dozen different shapes from them and they're coming out with new mice every month. When I was first getting into the hobby the Zero mouse was a cool new thing that a lot of people were excited about, and Pulsar was an up and coming brand that had some interesting mice, G-Wolves and Lamzu were some of the more niche enthusiast brands, and people rarely knew about Vaxee. Now it's a bunch of genuinely high quality Chinese mice that are being pumped out so much it's hard to follow what's even new. Now if you get someone asking for a mouse recommendation instead of it being as simple as telling them to just go get a viper you can tell them 20 different mices which is great, but also means that it's become hard to actually tell what all is out there because there's so much. Modding mice has become an even more niche thing as instead of trying to mod a mouse to get the style you want you can probably just buy whatever shape with whatever weight it is you're trying to get, and even then a lot of the mods we see pop up are people just cloning zero mouse instead of trying to do anything original, or just chopping off the back half of a mouse. A lot of the posts in this subreddit are just people showing off the new mice they buy because there's not too much else actual discussion to talk about. We could talk new ergonomics but now everyone's trying the same shapes which is why a lot of people just call the Viper V3 a clone of the GPX. We're reaching a point that a lot of the YouTubers in tech enthusiasts have already realized we're at where it's just kind of getting boring until anyone tries some new wild things most of which come from smaller brands like G-Wolves with the Vuk.

Oh man I had a bad G-Wolves mouse that sent me spiraling into gaming mice lmao I for sure get that. Based on everything you listed I think you should check out the Mchose L7 for sure. The original L7 is like an in-between of a X2 Mini (same shape as the Crazy light) and the Scyrox V8 (Sora V2) it's like a smaller overall mouse but has some really solid curves towards the front off the rear hump that gave you a really nice locked in feeling. The L7+ is a Sora V1 clone but honestly feels like the TenZ without a big ass rear hump to me. What are you rocking in the Pathfinder BTW? I'mixing between the LXM-110, the LAH-222 and currently doing LAM-110 build. I think what I need is something like an NP-01s honestly (which uh...is in the mail with an EC3 right now for me lmao) but VGN just dropped the Y2 so if I like the shape I may get that since its a super solid company.

This is an absolutely enlightened post that I love that gigantic fingertip mouse but honestly that was the issue I had with fingertip mice. The vast majority of the ones that I used ended up feeling awkward as hell and small and genuinely painful to hold and I couldn't get any of them to be comfortable, the G-Wolves and Darmoshark N5 we're mice that I just genuinely could not make work. Then I picked up a zero mouse during one of the mod kits early on because I was fingertip gripping a X2V2 the exact same width and weigh at the fingertip layouts were designed for the zero mouse, and suddenly I fully understood it. Shape is and will always be king but that is an evil mouse you designed lmao. Maybe try the L7+?

guilty as charged. my hands definitely have that 'too much coffee' tremor, so i need the extra weight to dampen the boomer shakes. glad the g-wolves is working for you though.

G-wolves 30-40g feels solid to me.