M4 Wireless Mouse

Ok so raw fingertip, the hitscan hyper light was option #1 for most (not me I hybrid fingertip and claw), the zero seems decent I feel but never confirmed. Mchose a5 was decent but still relatively long, 122mm I think, but in theory it's pretty good. And software can't really help Honestly buy a darmoshark m5/keychron m4/g wolves HSK lite first to see if you would prefer raw fingertip/lower click height. And browse eloshapes, finding mice with similar sensor position, side shape and length to the viper. Easier

16x9cm is very small. Keychron M4 is best for this.

Where are all these cheap fingertip mice on the market? Keychron M4 is $40 for 1k polling, $55 for 4K and $65 for 8k. G Wolves HSK Plus Light is $60 to 70 USD, with a last gen sensor and 1K polling. (still fine IMO, but not apples to apples) That's ALL of the commercially available; wireless, ***fingertip specific***, gaming mice with decent sensors under $100 USD\* that I am aware of. Two shape options under $100, just two while being generous with the 'cheap categorization. Under $50 there is only one and it's an overspec travel mouse from a keyboard brand. Between $100 & 200 USD the market has more options; Pulsar X2F, Gwolves HSK Pro and Fenrir models, WlMouse Miao and I think the ZeroMouse Blade comes in under $200 as well. These are priced in the premium range for gaming mice overall. That said, availability is far from good even in the more populated premium tier or used on Ebay. Many of the mentioned models are often out of stock. Total, excluding OptimumTech and very small bespoke makers, that is a grand total of what, 7 or 8 total shapes? Larger than it was, but still a VERY small market unless you include mice than are friendly to fingertip, but relatively full sized. *\*Yeah, that was a mouthful, but just trying to make a distinction between all the tiny mice that are super common, but not at all intended or spec'ed for competitive gaming, like the Logitech M317/pebble/ect.*

I completely forgot about the Darmoshark M5 and M5 Air! Didn't even know the Darmoshark M3 Micro existed tbh. That is two additional extant shapes. Currently at $80 for 1K polling and $130 for 8k polling respectively on AliExpress for the M5 pro and about the same ($80/$110) for the M3 Micro. The M5 Air is around $150. (prices for US market) How are we defining cheap? I feel like sub $50 is a reasonable spot for good old 1k polling, just my opinion on the matter since that price bracket is where those without the CPU grunt to handle 8 or even 4k polling in esports titles without stuttering at high FPS would be best served. CS/Val are both CPU intensive titles. For example, VXE R1 Pro had effectively the same specs for basically half the price and a better reputation for quality than Darmoshark. Gets a bit weird since it was exactly $53.69 including shipping/taxes with the 4k receiver 18 months ago from the other side of the planet to me, but things have changed a bit since. Currently, the updated 8k VXE Mad R is offered for around $65 including an 8k receiver and the R1 pro + 4k receiver is $70. A VXE Mad R 1k polling mouse is offered for around $45. The Keychron M4 1k polling is the only fingertip specific mouse in the US market under $50 price where I am subjectively drawing the "cheap" line. Availability isn't great. Sold out on Amazon, wildly overpriced through third parties on competing US online marketplaces and AliExpress, $40 direct from Keychron shipping not included which is the obvious best option at the moment.

Recently purchased the [Keychron M4](https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-m4-wireless-mouse) to try out this size/shape of mouse, as the 150$ price for the HSK series was putting me off from getting one as a "first-try" for this shape of mouse. Not a super technical review, as I'm not a super technical person, but it works quite fine for fingertip grip at my hand size (18.5 x 10). Out the box, the clicks are snappy and the chassis doesn't seem to have any creaking or flex to it at the strength I grip. Scroll-wheel is A-ok as well. The mouse settings are customizable enough on the bottom of the mouse itself (polling rate + dpi), can't comment on the software as I don't use it. I did have a slight QC issue, wherein the RMB was squeaking on some presses -- pulling the mouse open, it seemed like the upper chassis was rubbing against the actual RMB lever at points, so sanding those back a few mm solved that issue easily enough. Doesn't seem like other buyers had this issue, but if you did, it's an easy fix. Highly recommend this mouse for people looking to try this size but aren't willing to jump straight to the HSK series. Can't compare it to the Darmoshark M5 as I don't own one, but both seem fairly comparable with minor differences in size. Alternatively, if you like modding mice, it seems like a good base to mess around with -- someone recently did some weight reduction and chassis mods and got this mouse down to \~27g. Previously used a Lamzu Thorn, Glorious Model O, and a GPX superlight. I have RSI-ish in my left index finger and hand tremors, as well as everpresent wrist strain from work, of which this mouse has seemingly helped me on all fronts. Notably, the mouse is small enough that tensing my grip felt so off that I managed to break that habit lol. Smaller hands, fingertip enjoyers unsure about getting a mini, or potentially other people with wrist problems might want to give it a try, as the price makes it relatively easier to justify a massive change in shape from more traditional mice. Likely wouldn't recommend it for a larger hand, as the concave sides of the shape could cause hand cramping if you rest ring/pinky finger on the side of the mouse. For those more interested in in-game performance, I play 22cm/360 ish and the mini shape does absolutely have merit for gaming use. Kovaak's scores have gone up \~10% in two weeks for most tasks except stability (this mouse is very light to me), and I attribute it to breaking bad tension habits and more freedom on using fingers during aim. I don't aimtrain extremely seriously though.

I dont undersrand why so many people recommend the mx master, even moreso for gaming. That mouse is HUGE and a lot of its features only apply to specific workflows. If you really want a premium logitech mouse that can also do gaming, go with the mx anywhere. It has some of the features of the mx master but at a smaller, lighter form. Personally I use the Keychron M4 as it has the best latency Ive tested via bluetooth (but still significantly noticeable), or better yet use the usb dongle for the least latency on wireless.