Uranus Pro Wireless Gaming Mouse

kpu is the best shape ever made. only option is the kysona uranus. dark perk ergo feels very different

kysona uranus pro is the only thing we have. but its pretty good and my main for a long time now

Good to know, thanks! I've barely dipped my toes in the Chinese mouse market. I bought the Kysona Uranus and thought it was just meh but that's not gonna stop me from trying others. What annoyed me most regarding the Uranus is the China smell when you opened the box. It's like you get a fresh whiff of COVID. I can't explain it well but it's a very distinct smell on certain inexpensive Chinese products. The coating on the Uranus isn't great and the sensor just feels floaty. However, it was ridiculously inexpensive so my comments should definitely be taken on a curve. It would be a perfectly fine mouse if that is what I had the budget for. I will occasionally grab it for some D4/ LE / POE 2 as the shape is pretty comfy.

Kysona Uranus if you want something comfortable

Kysona Uranus Pro - stupidly comfy ergo based on Kone Pure Ultra shape, in medium size. Switches are on the quieter side, and not heavy at all.

The two Chinesium mice I have are the Kysona Jupiter Ultra (Viper v3 Pro clone) and Uranus Pro (Kone Pure ultra in a medium size). The Ultra sports Omron opticals, and 3950 sensor, 51.5g at $60 USD. The Uranus Pro is a 3395, Huano 100m mech switches, 56.5 g $40-45 depending on colorway. Both have 8k wireless, the Jupiter having 8k wired as well. Both available on Amazon via Kysona Store Front, or their online store, which is usually more expensive.

Kysona Uranus Pro [Amazon.com: KYSONA Wireless Gaming Mouse, 26000 DPI, 8K Polling Rate, Tri-Mode 2.4GHz/USB-C/Bluetooth Ergonomic Mouse with Web-Driven, Ice-Cooling Coating, Rechargeable Gaming Mice for Laptop/PC/Mac/Xbox, Black : Video Games](https://www.amazon.com/KYSONA-Bluetooth-Web-Driven-Ice-Cooling-Rechargeable/dp/B0DTHRV39Q?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1) It's a Medium sized ergo clone of the Kone Pure Ultra. $40 I have a DAv2 Pro as well, and prefer the UP shape.

1. Grips of the DAv3 Pro - Have you tried a wet microfiber cloth with some dish soap to clean the grips? If you have, the grips can be removed with heat (hair dryer) + spudger tool. There are 3rd party precut replacements that may do you better, like say Supergrips. 2. Battery Life - Logitech mice have long battery life. The new DAv4 Pro has some nice battery life too. The Uranus Pro I get about 5 days. I also have a G309 which gets long life. I get about 2-3 weeks on a single lithium AAA. 3. Wireless charge pads - Razer has pucks that work with the Mouse Dock Pro that use Qi charging. You could use a Qi charger of your own, and just get the DAv3 Pro you have a puck. This way, just dock it at the end of the day. The pricy Mouse Dock Pro comes with 1 puck, and acts as a Hyperpolling Dongle for 8K support. Razer also has a Hyperflux v2 pad, either in hard or soft (I recommend hard, you can put a cloth pad on top if desired) which uses a puck (not Qi compatible) with the mouse to constantly recharge while in use. Logitech has a similar setup with their Powerplay 2. (I use my PP1 + G309 for batteryless operation and 68g weight, 62g with rear cover removed. The G309 has a supercapacitor that holds a few minutes of charge.) Many of Logi's gaming mice have the Powerplay puck bay. Either of these pads are Medium sized, so if you are an arm sweeper, it may not work for you, though you can put the pad under another pad, and then that area will charge. I wrist aim so the size is fine.

Kysona Uranus Pro (Kone Pure Ultra clone in medium size, super comfy) Logitech G309 (using lithium AAA, 71g)

Deathadder v3 hyperspeed is narrower Kysona Uranus Pro is a Medium sized ergo Kone Pure Ultra clone. I do love the finger grooves for locking into it. (58g) Aerox 5 Wireless is similar to Deathadder in hand, but with less left hump, which I find comfortable.

I was concerned about the quality too, until I learned that Kysona makes mice for other companies, like Attack Shark, Dareu, Darmoshark, and a few others, and for $45, why not try it? So I got it, and been very happy with it. Coating is good with my grip, they don't creak, sensor is a 3395, comes with 8K wireless, and use Huano mechanical switches. So I decided to try an upgraded model, the Jupiter Ultra, with 3950 sensor (same as the Razer 30K mice), uses Omron Opticals, has the Viper v3 Pro body, 8K wired and wireless, and the Nordic controller for improved power usage. Same coating, and comes in at 51.5g Available on Amazon US via Kysona Store for $59.99 and comes in Metalllic Red. (The matching Razer model is $179.99 for the Sentinel) The rear flares out a tad more, but this is by design, as it allows the pinky finger to lock in on some support, which I really like. The control app for either one is light, and has all the features you want. No RGB on either model, other than a single light to show profile and battery status. My friend has the ATK X1 Ultimate, another Viper v3 Pro clone, and is very happy with it. Mchose makes one too, at a $20 more premium. The thing with these ultralights is that you will think they feel cheap at first, but as long as they don't creak, they're fine.

Kysona makes a bunch of affordable wireless. I have the Uranus Pro (Kone Pure Ultra clone in medium size) and the Jupiter Ultra is coming. (Viper v3 Pro clone) M617 is a Maya X clone. M600 series is GPX clones, but a tad smaller.

DA v3 Pro are $81 on Amazon US for open box "Used - Like New" from Amazon Resale, $72 for Refurbished Kysona Uranus Pro is a medium sized ergo, 3395 sensor, 8K wireless, Huano 100m mechanical switches, and lower mid hump compared to DAv3 Pro, making it very comfortable with the side finger grooves. (A Kone Pure Ultra clone) $40-45 depending on colorway (Orange being premium) [Razer DeathAdder V3 Pro alternatives - EloShapes](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/find-similar?p=razer-deathadder-v3-pro) You can use this link to find similar shaped mice if you want a clone. Incott G24 series seems to be a DAv3 clone but a tad smaller in length. [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=razer-deathadder-v3-pro-vs.-incott-g24-pro](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=razer-deathadder-v3-pro-vs.-incott-g24-pro)

Well, if you are looking for wheel and button reliability, the newer mice use optical switches for the mains, and the latest ones use an optical encoder for the wheel. examples: Razer Cobra Hyperspeed and Deathadder v4 Pro. Many of the modern mice use dust-free wheel encoders if they are not using optical. An example of this is my Kysona Jupiter Ultra, which has a TCC Gold encoder, and Omron optical mains. I have the Aerox 5 Wireless Diablo IV Edition, and it's a comfortable ergo, with a lower left side hump than the Deathadders. The five thumb buttons are nice for some games. Note all switches are mechanicals, so it will inevitably doubleclick, but this hasn't happened yet. (1 yr 3 mo) RGB does kill the battery quickly. Another way of looking at it is to buy mice that are on the cheaper side, and just get a new one when it goes bad. Example: Kysona Uranus Pro. Uses Huano 100m mechanicals, a TCC encoder (forget which) and 3395 sensor, and the shell is a copy of the Kone Pure Ultra in a medium size. It cost me $42 on Amazon, in Orange. Comes with 8K dongle, and when it develops an issue, I won't feel bad.

Then again you have people like me who had 7 Razer products break before the warranty in a row. It is quite shocking just how solid some of the ultra cheap mice are though, like for $80 aud the Kysona Uranus Pro is the most solid mouse I've ever owned, if it weren't so light I'd swear it were completely solid. Like it makes sense as a lot of these mice are made in the same few factories, but it's still shocking to see the disparity between a $280 aud Razer mouse and an $80 aud Kysona. How does the build quality of scyrox and G-wolves compare to Pulsar btw? I also have the X2V2 mini and am curious about eventually trying out Scyrox and G-wolves.

Unfortunately, brands only make good shit when they're new/growing. So for a new G402, look for a brand that is still trying to build brand-loyalty and grow a wide gamer-stan audience. Dareu will do you right. The web-software compatible ASUS mice are actually goated and exactly what you're looking for (though they've yet to release a new browser-software Chakram, only 2 button mice). Glorious is perpetually stuck in decent-quality limbo due to their extremely flaky fanbase (which is a score cause it keeps Glorious mostly on the straight and narrow). Keychron is experiencing growing pains, the M6 is trash due to a hardware glitch in the sensor, but the M7 and M5 are actually great. And of course, Mad Catz will always make the single-most over-built indestructible mice on the planet (and then go bankrupt for the 7 billionth time, have another worker union go on strike and overthrow the CEO during a revolution, go bankrupt again, then come back from the dead right when you least expect it). My original R.A.T. 3 is still my travel mouse, it's been with me for over half my life (and is older than the G402) and still works as it did brand-new (earlier this year the rubberized coating did finally goober, but after going at it with the 50 grit it's good as new again). That thing survived getting thrown full force against a brick wall and a concrete floor during my 12yo gamer-rage era, has moved 16 times, survived 8 years of getting crammed into a backpack that was yeeted around during commutes (was usually in the bottom of the backpack getting crushed by textbooks) and never used on a mouse-pad (only wood tables, glass tables, really worn cutting-mats, marble and masonry counters too). That shit don't break like genuinely I thought people were joking about bad switches, glitchy sensors, and back-scrolling scroll-wheels until I got a Razer mouse and it broke in 4 months (with very delicate use cause I actually really cared about the Razer mouse cause it was expensive). The only other brand that rivals the absolute-unit built quality of my first ever gaming mouse, is Pulsar. Unfortunately Pulsar only makes 2 button mice, but their software and build quality are absolutely top-dollar. Just wish they made an MMO mouse, fortunately Mad Catz has released a revised MMO7+ so when I have the cash that's my new MMO mouse that'll last me the rest of my life probably. I mean the Rat 3 is still going strong and the MMO7+ has metal-reinforcements throughout it's shell for enhanced durability so I seriously doubt that mouse will break anytime soon as I no longer yeet mice into brick walls full-force (though somehow the MMO7+ is the second lightest wireless MMO mouse out there, second to the Aerox 9 which has such a terrible shape it genuinely feels twice as heavy than it actually is, plus I accidentally dipped my Aerox 9 in acid and it's slowly turning into a sponge. Of course if you're happy with a 2 button mouse, the Kysona Uranus Pro is absolutely GOATED that thing is built like a tank, I haven't yeeted it but I'd have 100% confidence the Uranus Pro would survive a year of the brick wall treatment no questions.

Same hand size but slightly different grip: I like a more open grip, so my pinky is where your ring finger is and rung finger is farther forward on the mouse almost touching pinky finger. For my grip style the Kysona Uranus Pro is absolutely locked-in. It has a little nubbin on the front right side that I hook and pull back on with my ring finger, and push forward on with my pinky finger. However that won't work with how aggressively you like to curl your ring and pinky fingers (I've been training through years of Cello practice to always keep my fingers relaxed and slightly curled, so I find it incredibly uncomfortable to grip mice the way you do since I've developed different muscles in my hand). If you're happy with a more open and relaxed grip however (hurts if you have a tendency to over-grip your mouse, though the pain will teach you to break that bad habit). Defo give that mouse a shot (or the Pulsar X2 mini, I do the same thing with hooking my ring finger around the front of the mouse). The Maya X is either a carpal-tunnel claw mouse (not pincer claw) or a 1-3-1 pincer claw mouse (I rest my ring finger on the top of the lip next to the rmb, and push down with my ring finger since it's not actually pressing the rmb, actually extremely comfortable and absolutely locked in). However when I try to grip the Maya X with curved fingers like you do, it actually feels extremely locked-in with perfect sensor angle alignment and it doesn't torque to the side if you over-grip the mouse. Though I do find that uncomfortable of course, not sure if it's because I find curling my fingers like that uncomfortable, or if it's because the Maya X is uncomfortable to grip like that. I do grip the ASUS Harpe 2 Ace in an almost identical fashion though. Still my fingers are a little more open and relaxed, however they're almost as curled in as yours are and I do actually find that incredibly comfortable on the Harpe 2 Ace. It has a deceptively long butt that means you grip it far enough back where the middle of the hourglass shape is far enough forwards to reach it without too aggressive of a finger curl. So the Harpe 2 Ace might actually be right up your alley. However, from all reviews online, and trying out 3D printed shape-testers: The Mchose G3 series of mice might actually be perfect for you. Egg shapes (and the elusive diamond and cheese wedge shapes) accommodate claw-grip perfectly as they kick your pinky out farther than your ring finger, and also "snuggle" into the palm of your hand as you grip them. Unlike hour-glass shapes which scoot away from the palm of your hand, and also kick the ring finger out wider than the pinky. Although I do like hourglass mice for fingertip grip, I don't like them for claw grip unless they have a feature I can use to counteract their anti-claw tendencies (like the Uranus Pro nubbin, X2 mini front corner, Maya X rmb ledge, or Hape 2 Ace's long butt). So I would definitely recommend looking into non-hourglass shapes for claw grip (especially pincer claw, carpal tunnel claw is less sensitive to hourglass shapes but pincer claw is very sensitive to hourglass shapes).

Edit: thought you meant fingertip only mice nevermind. Gwolves might have some of the worst customer service out there. But the HSK (and HSK2), Fenrir Pro, and Fenrir Asym are the perfect shape and size for small, medium, and large hands respectively. There are a few other fingertip-only mice Gwolves makes, however they're a lot more niche and obscure so you'll instantly buy them no questions asked or go "huh!?!?!?" The second you look at them. The software is meh, not as atrocious as Razer/Logi/Steelseries/Corsair/HyperX software, but also not as good as the new ASUS browser software (ASUS has had a glow-up from the worst of the worst software, to a brand new browser software that's actually better than Lamzu and Pulsar software). The build quality is really good though, so fortunately the terrible customer service is usually avoided. The owner/creator/founder is a mad-man. Good at making amazing and innovative mice, but at the expense of social decency unfortunately. If you want a Gwolves alternative, you have: WLmouse Miao. Pulsar X2F (wait until V3, V1 has sensor issues, V2 is ok but significantly heavier than it needs to be). Lamzu fingertip-mouse (unreleased, doesn't have a name, it's Lamzu so it'll be goated but damn it feels like we'll get GTA 6 before a new Lamzu release). Kysona Uranus Pro (it's a bit tall for my liking, and a fullsize, but damn it's an amazing fingertip mouse and it's insanely cheap like just buy one and take a hacksaw to it and you're good in all honesty, I'm even currently procrastinating on making custom 3D printed shells for it cause it's so cheap but so amazing despite being cheaper than the budget hello-kitty mouse from my local stationary store). If you want more info, here is a YT video and channel who is specifically a tiny fingertip mouse aficionado: [https://youtu.be/c8ojtzn9H-8?si=n7znAoeI8WyVuOxb](https://youtu.be/c8ojtzn9H-8?si=n7znAoeI8WyVuOxb)

Zaopin Z1 ARYE RCC1 Pulsar X2 crazy-light (non-medium) Lamzu Maya (non-X) and Atlantis Mini. There are also a few Gwolves mice which fill this niche too. Kysona Uranus Pro (honestly it's the most universal shape I've ever held, and the most goated shape I've ever held, I bought it cause it was cheap, easy to disassemble, and has a surprisingly good PCB that's also very compact, and then I never took it apart cause damn it's actually the goat and has no right being as insanely universally good as it is).

For Agro-claw you always want an egg. Some ergo shapes are also good, though the Kysona Uranus Pro is the only exception to my personal distaste for full-size ergo mice, so I'm probably not the best to ask for them. The "best" egg so far is the Zaopin Z1, yea it's small but with agro-claw size doesn't matter unless you're like the hulk or smth. Even then, I have a shape tester and have 18cm by 9cm hands and find that shape to be more secure comfortable for aggressive claw grip than the Mchose G3 shape, if that's any solace. The Mchose G3 shape has "flat" sides in comparison to the Z1 (especially low down close to the base of the G3), so your fingers slip down the sides of the mouse towards your hand (better than the hourglass shape you're holding in this picture, but not as good as the Z1). Whereas the Z1 gets wider in the middle across it's entire height, making it incredibly secure, especially for aggressive grips. That being said, there are many who hate the Z1 shape and love the G3, just as there are those who love the Z1 and hate the G3. Both big hands and small hands too. Fortunately, they're both incredibly cheap (technically knockoffs, but when the knockoff has better build quality, lower latency, longer battery life, a nicer coating, more colors, and is almost less than half the weight of the original, you can't really call it a knockoff anymore). So you can probably afford to just buy both and main the one you find works the best for you. On the expensive end of the egg spectrum, the Arye RCC1 and the Lofree Hypace are also goated. Expensive, to the point where you probably shouldn't buy unless you know that egg mice are your niche (much like the Fenrir Asym being a niche within a niche, both of these expensive egg mice are hyper-specific niche-niche mice) as buyers remorse is strong with the micro-niche mice. Though if you already know that either of those mice are your niche, they're both actually peak and will easily be your endgame, so buy 2 as having a spare is so worth it in those cases.

Yeah I feel you there, same thing with me. Hourglass shapes are amazing for fingertip grip, and MCP-claw (knuckle-claw, where you do still mostly fingertip, but also use your knuckles to stabilize the mouse). But with any other form of claw they absolutely suck and are the exact opposite of what you want. I was fortunate and got the MayaX, X2 V2 mini, and later on the Kysona Uranus Pro. However all 3 of those mice rely on a relaxed claw grip (my ring finger actually hooks around the front of the X2 mini, effectively turning it into an egg shape), with your ring finger right up at the front of the mouse. Of course all 3 of these mice have a flat spot for your ring finger so it stays there (or it actually curves in towards the front like on the Uranus Pro, and technically the X2 mini since I put my ring finger so far forwards on that mouse). So a relaxed claw grip with extended fingers is natural and very secure and comfortable. However, if an aggressive grip is what you want, then an egg is always going to be better. I prefer a relaxed grip (from all my practice as a Cellist and a Pianist, my hands like to hold a "proper" curved and relaxed shape) so I'm currently transitioning to pure fingertip grip, and maining the MayaX in the meantime. Though I'd get the Z1 in a heartbeat if an aggressive grip was my preference, and that would probably be my endgame. If you actually do like a relaxed grip however (and your agro grip is only due to your current mouse being almost exclusively for fingertip due to it's hourglass shape), then the MayaX is a really good option too. It doesn't show up on camera, but where it's purple on the purple edition, the side of the mouse is flat (overhung for better grip when lifting the mouse, but squeezing the ring finger doesn't push the mouse forward or back) which gives you a really secure spot for your ring finger. The MayaX is more of an MCP claw mouse though, the rear hump has a "V" shaped ridge on it (kinda like the forehead of a Klingon if a Klingon only had 1 ridge instead of 5 stacked on-top of each-other, draw a line from the outside edge of the main button to the middle rear of the mouse, and that's where those two ridges are) that slots in-between your ring and middle finger knuckles. Plus there's also a "dent" to the outside of the ridge that your ring and pinky knuckles rest inside of. Very subtle details that don't show up on camera, but you can certainly feel them and they turn the rear hump into an auto-centering locating pin when usually a relaxed MCP-claw grip. However this does mean your palm makes zero contact with the mouse (the thumb part of your palm does a little though) and your pointy finger knuckle is also lifted off the mouse too, unlike most MCP mice where all 4 knuckles are touching the mouse. It's also a good mouse for all other grip styles too of course, and although there is a portion of the mouse that does have an hourglass shape, it's very far forward (the "middle" of that hourglass is just before the mouse goes from black to purple on the purple edition, the transition from black to purple highlights where the side changes from an hourglass shape to a flat sided shape), it's only barely narrower than the flat side rest for your ring finger, and it's a very gentle curve so your pinky finger isn't constantly pulled to a specific spot on the side of the mouse but instead just stays where you left it. However, it's definitely not an aggressive grip mouse, better than what you currently have sure, but compared to an egg, the MayaX definitely specializes in relaxed grips. The MayaX also punishes you for using poor grip tension and over-gripping the mouse, as it'll rotate around in your hand and throw off your aim if the tension in your hand becomes unbalanced. This did actually improve my aim dramatically and broke all my bad habits (and also reduced the pain and strain I'd get in my hand snd fingers from over-gripping, by teaching me to always keep a relaxed and balanced grip on the mouse). However that isn't a "feature" for many people and instead would be an instant turn-off. Plus is also does mean the MayaX with judge an aggressive grip with more scrutiny than a relaxed grip (I can grip it with an aggressive grip, and if I keep a balanced grip tension it's perfectly fine, but as soon as I over-tense my hand the mouse rotates and doesn't go back until I balance my grip tension again). Egg shapes however don't really rotate at all. They're basically built for aggressive high-tension grip styles, and pretty much always hold a consistent position and angle no matter how much or little tension you use, or how balanced or unbalanced your tension is, or how amazing or terrible your grip technique is. But I thought I'd just share that just incase you do prefer a relaxed MCP claw grip, and only use an agro claw grip because the mouse makes you do it.

At this point, print up all the shapes in the 3D printed mouse shape-tester mega-pack first. Even ordering that through a 3D printing service will be cheaper than continuously buying new mice. Once you find your niche mouse, if Mchose, Zaopin, Attack-Shark, etc.... haven't made it, look online for a 3D printed shell mod kit for an existing mouse, order the shell mod kit and the mouse it modifies, and enjoy your new niche mouse. Alternatively, keep using these current mice with new grip styles. I strongly recommend trying MCP-claw (a grip style I was heavily opposed to, until I tried it out, and discovered that it's actually amazingly comfortable) which is where you slot the top-side ridge of the mouse between the knuckles on your palm, and the only other part of your palm that touches the mouse is (sometimes) the thumb portion of your palm. For some mice they slot between your ring and pinky finger knuckle, for others your middle and ring finger knuckles (the Kysona Uranus Pro is a rare mouse for having a central ridge in the middle of the mouse to slot between your pointy and middle finger knuckles). MCP claw is surprisingly stable, and since it doesn't really on palm contact, you basically have full freedom of motion with it. Not the same as fingertip, but more than any other claw grip. The MayaX has one such ridge on it's rear hump specifically to slot between your pointy and ring knuckles, with a little indent on the side for your ring and pinky knuckles to rest in. They're very subtle details that you can't really see due to the matte coating, but they're very much there, so give it a try and see if you like it. If you're a fingertip-main however, the X2 mini (crazylight non-medium, and the final release version of the X2F - current releases of the X2F are still beta and alpha products unfortunately), beast X mini (the beast Miao is effectively the same mouse but with the rear hump smushed so it stops touching your palm), and non-X Maya (soon a fingertip-only version will be announced, supposedly sometime around July according to the current teasers), are all goated fingertip shapes. The Kysona Uranus Pro is also a goated fingertip shape (though the left mouse button is a bit on the tall side) that also happens to be a goated relaxed-carpal-claw shape as well. And of course, the Gwolves HSK, Fenrir Asym, and Fenrir Pro, are the 3 respective kings of fingertip grip (which one is for you depends on your hand size, and grip style, some people find the Asym to be perfect and hate the HSK, others hate the Asym and find the HSK to be perfect, 3D print some shape testers or just a few flat cubes that match the side widths and angles so see if you want a wider mouse or a narrower mouse). But otherwise yeah, either this is a case of the muscles in your hand are currently developing and nothing will feel good for about 6 months. After which everything will feel amazing for about 6 months. After which one specific mouse will feel even MORE amazing for years-life now that your muscles have finished toning up. Or this is a case of, you meed the shape-tester mega-pack to find the obscure niche mouse that tickles your pickle in just the right way.

Recently picked up the Kysona Uranus Pro, very comfy to me with 20x8 hands. Rocking it alonside the Viper V3 Pro, claw grip. The KUP isn't overly close in shape, but roughly in size. Would not give up just yet. There are many Chinese ergo options, you don't have to bend the knee to Razer just yet - tho the DA V3 HyperSpeed is a very good pick imo (just too small for me, and if you need something bigger and slightly heavier, just go for the wired/Pro variant - these aren't that expensive in the US at all, and frequently go on discount).

I'm diagnosed with essential tremors but for some reason my hands are calm no sweaty moms spaghetti even when I'm holding a 35g mouse With that said I feel like thumb grooves of some sort are always a huge plus for me so a perfect shape for me is something like the Kysona Uranus. G502 LS maybe?