Logitech G - PRO X SUPERLIGHT 2 LIGHTSPEED Wireless Gaming Mouse

Viper v2pro v3pro.(V2 best shape, V3 "safe" shape) *best sensor imo/from experience, no debounce delay* Super light 2. *Good sensor and no debounce delay.* Op1 8k (cable) or wireless 4k. *Fastest clicks, it registers the click before you hear the click sound. Good sensor.* My favorite of them all, G-wolf HTR 8k pro. Tiny mouse At 26g, I'm 6'4 and can use this little thing without any issues. But I would recommend the Endgame gear OP1 8k, Great shape, great coating for grip even with sweaty hands, fastest clicks of any mouse due to their own switches and good sensor. Light weight software (*no install*). Good price.

you’ve got tiny hands. mine are slightly bigger and I didn’t like the superlight, too big to comfortably grip. the V3P and Maya X have a similar shape and size still, if I had to pick from your list, I’d go for the Sora V2. if you’d like a middle-placed hump, there’s the hitscan hyperlight, scyrox v6, atk f1 and many others and to answer your other question — unless you need a load of buttons, any mouse you’re comfortable with is also good for productivity and daily use

I bought the v2 because I liked the v1 so much . It's such a fantastic mouse imo

I'm of the opinion that if you play different games in different genres and only plan on getting one mouse, the GPX 2 (or Dex if you want an ergo) is what I would choose. By no means is the GPX perfect. But the shape is very safe, the battery life is excellent and the macros ability in Ghub gives a lot of flexibility (particulary aim down sights macro for those games lacking a toggle).

i know this is old but i had the same issue, the trick was i had to unpair my other mouse then do an update on the new maya or atlantis champion then re connect it to the 4k dongle.. what i could never get figured out was though was how to have both mice paired to the 4k one at the same time so i could swap back n forth to compare the mice.. online it says its possible.. honestly they should of just included a new 4k dongle that could support multiple lamzu mice out of the box because i only returned it for that reason otherwise would of kept it.. i have a superlight 2 as my work mouse or storyline games, ulx comp for apex legends and fps comp games, and returned the lamzu but loved it for overwatch and marvels for its spammable clicks. another mouse i want to add to my lineup is WL beast x with the 3950 sensor update, i tried the max when it was the only one with new sensor and it was too big, but now they have the regular and mini, when the atlantis champion drops in black i will get it again and see if the dongle issue is resolved but as of now they only have pink and white which was a weird color option to start off on

My DAV3 had scroll issues , replaced it and happened again after 4 months not gonna reccomend it, i bougth Superligth 2, i assume if you want ergo Superligth 2 Dex would be better

Its really depends on your grip, im using the Superligth 2 and its good for 130 . I heard the Maya X is good to and its also cheaper .

funny got my g502 x plus today coming from the g pro lightspeed 2, and i like the g502 so much more

Cool but not the best, if some needed a good overall mouse, I would recommend the gpx 2 or a similar shape bc that's just a good shape, the g502 is kinda outdated and bulky, especially for gaming.

I’d post a picture but I can’t. Mouse: Main: Razer Viper V3 Pro / When it’s Dead: GPXSL2 Mousepad: Wallhack SP-004 Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow V2 Monitor: Alienware AW3225QF

superlight 2 is legitimately one of the best pc accessories i've ever bought. It's not necessary to install ghub

I have both here. Like the Thorn shape a lot more, but it's small. The left side of the Dex is a higher and slopes faster. Also for the back hump it slopes a lot faster. These two feel pretty different.

Microadjustments on the op1 for example are absolutely insane. Great for kovaaks and training scenarios. But with CS I feel like a bigger and more stable ergo gives other benefits that are more important. I played years with a GPX and some days it felt great for CS but my grip never feels as locked in as with my trusty old G403. Recently switches back to my G403 and performed a lot beter in CS again. Somehow I get the flashier shots with my GPX but miss some easy ones. With my G403 nothing is flashy but I do drop a lot more frags in general. Guess I win more 50-50 duels with it, which is more important in the long run.

Logitech gpw, gpx, g305, razor viper v2 v3, anything beast. Gpx2 is prob the best but at 300 dollars if that mouse breaks. If you dont mod, you got 300 dollar paper weight!

Left handed mice are pretty limited. * Pulsar X3 LHD * VAXEE XE-S L Wireless 4K Ami mice * Pulsar Gaming Gears - X2A * Razer Viper Ultimate V1 (if they are still for sale) * Logitech G Pro 2 Here's a more complete list [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/database?handCompatibility=left,ambidextrous](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/database?handCompatibility=left,ambidextrous) You can filter as needed, look up the ones that seem appealing.

FYI Logitech has 25% off on their website through Unidays if you have a university email. Got G Pro 2 Wireless for $141 that way.

If you mainly play fps games, logitech g pro superlight 2 or razer viper v3 pro are probably the best pick.

The battery life is really what sets Logitech from the clones. The clones copied the form factor, can have better switches and sensors but for whatever reason they can't replicate the battery life

I regret buying a superlight 2 dude. $140 and built like a toy

I buy blind om this becausw of sale around 100$ in my country this is good mouse better than my supelight 2 dex, very comparable to my lamzu thorn in shape and weight and i agree the build quality is perfect can use polling rate at 8k with 2.4Ghz booster but 8k vs 4k i see no difference for me its a good eveyday gaming mouse

Its up to you if you want to buy it or not but my opinion was my own they didnt pay me anything here for 110$ i like it better than my gpx2 dex, keris 2 and lamzu thorn. It hits the right spot for its price spec and build quality its reasonable i think but their keyboards? Nahh 100% nahhh

Yeah its good buy i think for its price, my gpx2 dex and keris ii ace is much expensive vs this i still choose this all day for swappable bat and build quality

Oh that’s the only mouse i use and i love it. Much better than my previous mouse (gpx 2) but i respect it.

I picked up the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 as my go‑to this year. It feels almost weightless, the HERO 25K sensor never skips on my flicks, and the battery easily powers me through marathon sessions.

DEX is the best shape for relaxed claw.. but the clicks are too hard

My OG atlantis lasted me a good 3 years when I was heavily gaming, maybe 10 hours a day. It still works but I just replaced it with a maya X. I’ve received 3 GPX SL2s and right out of the box, none of their scroll wheel holds the click.

to whoever that said mchose is ass , ive used superlights, sora’s , lamzu’s and mchose l7 ultra and a5 ultra is not that typical chinese mouse feeling when u use them. I can confirm that on 1k polling rate , they all work the same. Good performance. I can say this tho, if u have extra budget just go for a superlight 2 just because of its reliability. If your searching for this specific shape ofcourse

to whoever that said mchose is ass , ive used superlights, sora’s , lamzu’s and mchose l7 ultra and a5 ultra is not that typical chinese mouse feeling when u use them. I can confirm that on 1k polling rate , they all work the same. Good performance. I can say this tho, if u have extra budget just go for a superlight 2 just because of its reliability. If your searching for this specific shape ofcourse

Battery is great in gpx2. My deathhader v3 promdrained battery like crazy.

Have you tried any of the later batches? Got mine at release. My back side button has been horrific since I got it. Wobbles, tapping on it rattles because theres room between the switch and the button. My LMB randomly crunches and has become a bit wobbly. Have had 3 or 4 spinouts now in CS2. Couldn't RMA because I'd be left without a mouse because my GPX scroll wheel stopped working on 2 units. Hoping the quality is sorted out now because I buy another. Contemplating a VV3 Pro at this point

i personally would switch out the #3 for an ergo quite frankly (doesnt matter really wich one nowadays because most of them are all good) i would most likely tie 1 and 2 with a slight overhead for the superlight (just because of the battery life..) cant really tell anything about 4 and 5. mostly would switch those because pulsar is a bit weird on quality and having troubles on clicks and stuff like that not gonna go deep because alot of people would get mad in here sounding like brainwashed people lol

Most likely the mouse wheel is without support on one side or with a broken support. G502 is quite big mouse for Your 19 cm hand. If You really like Logitech - then watch on G Pro X Superlight-2 (or Superlight2 DEX). From other good mouses I would recommend 1. Razer Viper V3 Pro 2. Razer Deathadder V3 Pro, 3. Asus ROG Harpe Ace Aim Lab Edition. From Chinese mouses You can request ATK X1 Ultimate (version with 8K Dongle which sometimes goes as present to other versions of this mouse) - I've heard already a lot of good references about this mouse. All above will fit Your hand.

I've gone through five G203s, and now this XPRO Superlight 2 is starting to feel mushy after just 5 months. I'm about to RMA it. Honestly, every single Logitech mouse I've owned has ended up needing an RMA.

What about the side buttons? Everyone who reviews this mouse says the same - they’re mushy and feel cheap. Same for the wheel button, I don’t care about it much since I don’t use it, but for this price, there should be no shortcuts from Logitech.

Oh, I’ve just noticed you use XM2 4K, so the DEX wasn’t THAT solid after all, haha.

What’s your hand size and will this work for me if I hate the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 and GPX size and shape and hate the high jump on the back but love the Zowie EC3 flat hump on the back and Finalmouse ULX Small Hump and ZA13-DW hump but find the Zowie EC3-CW too small for me? I got around 17.78 x 18cm x 9.5-10cm hands and for reference the Finalmouse ULX small fits perfectly in my hands perfect size but I kind of like ergo more than ambi and seeing that the hump slopes down more gradually like a waterfall and not longer like a rainbow on the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 Dex the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 Dex looks a lot smaller or at least shorter than the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 since your palm will rest higher the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 Dex since it slopes down more gradually like a waterfall and your hand will be much higher up on it making your fingers reach the end of the mouse more since it’s hump is lower than on the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2. Same thing happens when I use the EC3-CW it feels shorter in length than it actually is cuz of how low and how gradually the hump slopes down like a waterfall compared to higher profile humps which make mice feel longer.

If the price difference between GPX and GPX 2 is high, choose the first gen, the performance difference is not noticeable. It's not gonna impact in-game performance whatsoever. If they are priced similarly, just choose Gen 2 for longer-lasting clicks and "newer" sensor/tech. For Gen1, you can find PCB replacements for cheap and easily online, and replace the Gen1's PCB if you ever have click issues or want to change the click feels. I was gonna get Gen2, but I got the Gen1 on sale at the end. Bought some custom-painted replacement shells and a PCB with Huano TBPD switches pre-soldered. Now it feels like a brand-new mouse.

I would guess the superlight 2 is a better mouse (edited to remove qualifier). It's lighter and has a better sensor. The trade-off is it's more expensive and doesn't have the extra 2 side buttons.

I can't say the same for their other products that I've owned, but the Superlight has been great to me for the last 3 years. But it did get scroll wheel problems, an issue I made because of tap-strafing in Apex Legends meant I was scrolling very hard and fast. Just got the Superlight 2 and it feels like they made it sturdier and slightly heavier, with a less "clicky" and more smooth scroll wheel. I just gave away my first Superlight to a friend.

I love this mouse. Yeah it’s expensive but it feels great and the battery life is incredible.

Id go with an ultra light like the Superlight 2 or Steelers Aerox 3.

We have almost the same hand size. I play these games as well. As a former G Pro Wireless enjoyer, I can recommend the GPX 2. I tried every mainstream mouse. Viper V3 Pro, GPX 1 and 2, Lamzu Maya 8K, OP1W 4K, XM2W 4K, Zowie-S2 DW, Beast X Pro. I can say that when it comes to jack of all trades, the GPX is my main. The factor that I used the form of it for 3-4 yrs is important to note. BUT out of all these mice the OP1W 4K was the closest when it comes to perform all of these games. I was even better at tracking and target switching in COD with this mouse. But in CS2 the GPX was the most consistent for me. I hope I could give some help buddie!

I do not recommend the OG g pro superlight. The debounce time is too high for fast mechs. Causes desync between your keyboard and your mouse when editing and creates timing issues. Get the superlight 2 if you wanna go for Logitech. Other than that, the viper v3 pro is very good and the hitscan hyperlight is a mini version of the v3 pro

I intensively used my superlightV1 for around 2 years, playing PoE and CS. I bought a V2, cause I expected it to break at some point, but it's still going strong.

superlight 2 artisan type99 grandmaster

Brought the dex and do not regret it. I don't remember my exact measurements now but I'm fairly certain I'm around 20 x 10.5.

The Logitech g pro x superlight 2 lightspeed is a normie mouse? In what way? Msrp is $160usd what normie is paying $160 for a mouse?

Has anyone had problems with the middle mouse button deactivating before the mechanical click? If I slightly reduce the force applied the middle mouse deactives before I let go even when the mechanical click is 'released'. I have a brand new superlight 2..

Recently changed from Rival 600 (RMB died after 4yrs) to Logitech Superlight 2 Dex. I love my Rival but Superlight defo dug its way into my heart real quick.

Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 Wireless, lightweight, small, everything i need.

I had the same pain every day after using the mouse then I bought the g pro x 2 and I never had that pain again

I am a Thorn user and eventhough I love it I am switching to GPX2 DEX cause after trying it I am just better with it at gaming even with the fact that Thron is much more confortable for me (Weird that confortable doesnt equal performance :p) I tried the DEX on second hand (Availability issues in my country) before deciding if I wanted to switch or not so I tried stock skates already broken in and they felt really good for me on a Vaxee PE mousepad, which is crazy cause everyone talks shit about stock skates (I share the sentiment of them probably not being durable enough) but other than that can you recommend what skates do you think can bring a similar experience to stock saktes but being more durable? Or a direct recommendation on anyother skates that might feel good for aim tracking games (Mainly Apex Legends). Thanks in advance \^\^

Hello, I am a Thorn user but I am switching to gpx2 dex just because after trying it I am objectively better at aim tracking (mainly play Apex). What really was weird for me is that in hand feeling the thorn is naturally more confortable for me though I still perform better with the dex which is crazy to me that comfor doesnt equal performance. Also the reason why I am answering you to this post is just because I am curious on what skates did you purchased for the dex? I tried dex on second hand with stock skates already broken in and they felt really good for me eventhough everyone talks shit about them (I also think they are too thin and probbably they will have longevity issues but other than that they felt good for me). I do use a Vaxee PE and I am looking to change the skates for ones that feel similar to the stock ones but being more durable. Do you know any skates that can fullfil that request?

Honestly, just switch from GPX 2 to Viper V3 pro, it is expensive but it puts the gpx 2 to shame in my opinion. Better build quality, better click response, better click feeling on the side buttons, the bigger size makes it much more intuitive to use than the potato shape of the gpx (but thats personal preference), only place the viper is beat is on the battery. But it does not feel like a normal razer product, I would highly recommend for fortnite (and I have small hands, the mouse is not that big)

only got a few hours in on mine (also the white one) So far no issues, quality feels identical to the regular G PRO 2.

only got a few hours in on mine (also the white one) So far no issues, quality feels identical to the regular G PRO 2.

Mine felt mushy when I first got it, but it went away after a couple days of using.

safe shape: super light 2, fastest wireless: viper v3 pro, fastest mouse (wired): op1 8k

seems like you just got unlucky, my DEX is solid and haven’t seen many other issues with build quality from others so far

Wow watching the video, my side buttons are way more sturdy than yours. Mine do have a lot of firm pre-travel before click (i don't mind) but they can't really wobble. Coming from gpro wireless to superlight 2 dex, my build quality is great and no real complaint other than price and lack of innovation.

I play almost exclusively singeplayer games and have had a great time with superlight 2 so far lol

just because it says gaming doesnt mean its good for your purpose. gaming mices have evolved a lot and there are mices for different genres. for cs you want to have a lighter mouse since we are all playing with a low sensitivity or compared to other games very low sensitivity. check out this guy who does good comparisions and recommendation for FPS mices. https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/ overall the most common used among pros and easily available worldwide is the logitech g pro wireless, go pro superlight (same mouse but ligther) or the latest version the g pro superlight 2.

Logitech superlight 2 though its overpriced

My first thought too and the v1 is very reasonably priced and the v2 offers very negligible benefit. Excellent mice. Razer Viper Pro v2 is another option that can be found in that price range when on sale.

i use the g pro superlight 2, however at a certain point it comes down to weight and shape of the mouse. i personally grip the sides of my mouse with my thumb and pinky, and then my other 3 fingers lay on LMB, scroll wheel, and RMB.

What's your budget? I just a Logitech Pro X Superlight 2 Dex that I really like, but it's outrageously expensive

Okay, yes you don’t want a wireless mouse but hear me out. The Logitech g pro superlight 2 is absolutely beautiful. It’s light, very very responsive and comfortable. It also comes with 90+ hours of battery life and it charges up to at least a couple hours of use in the time it takes you to shit. I haven’t actually went “let me charge my mouse real quick” in the last month or so because it lasts that long. Lots of pros use it as well, very worth it.

Yes, it’s a usbc cable that plugs in and you can use it wired while it charges. Higher end mouse for sure

Not OP but I also main the Dex (tried many other shapes too and nothing else comes close) Hand size is 20 x 11

Not worth just buy the gpx2

No Pinky button but I recommend the gpx2 safe shape and it's good for different hand size and grip style

Op18k/XM2 8k Vaxee and zowie wireless mice Logitech super light 2 Dex, gpx2

The basic grip styles are palm, claw, fingertip Since you prefer ergonomic Dav3 wired, ec1-c, xlite v3 large wired, there are wireless versions of these mice too Dav3 pro, ec1-cw (soon ec1-dw) xlite v3 large wireless, super light 2 Dex Well wireless mice performance is similar to wired they're not shit like it used to be before, you won't notice a difference, only matter is the shape and if the cable doesn't bother you get wired if yes get wireless

If you like the safe shape and rounded back get the gpx2 if not you want a flat back viper V3 pro

Reading your comment gave me a brain aneurysm. I’m betting you did not do well in grammar in school 😂. To answer your word vomit, don’t get the dex if you hate the superlight shape. Your hand is too small. Try the ec2-cw or the new vaxee e1.

It's relative, when the first one came out (4 years ago) it for sure was light compared to the (mainstream) mice we had then. Setting the trend of lighter mice. The superlight 2 is a few grams lighter again but now it's the same concept referring to the product line. Nothing special about the weight. IMO the weight is now in a range that you can still feel it yet it's not hindering, so battery time is more valuable than weight reduction. The weirdest thing for me is that they didn't change the side buttons.

What clone did you get? I play quite a lot on my GPX and haven't had issues since i bought it in May fortunately. GPX2 should not have the double click issue. Will replace my switches for optical if it does occur. Replaced the skates they are not that good, but my issue is that they are really crap on glass.

What clone did you get? I play quite a lot on my GPX and haven't had issues since i bought it in May fortunately. GPX2 should not have the double click issue. Will replace my switches for optical if it does occur. Replaced the skates they are not that good, but my issue is that they are really crap on glass.

Used the razer viper ultimate but then the side buttons stopped working and ive been happy with the logitech g pro x superlight 2, but its kinda pricey. I have mine in white and i love it. Also what do people use for lean? I have always used the side mouse buttons to lean, forward side button to lean left, back side button to lean right

It's way better. I had gpw/gpx and tried gpx 2 and incott g23 is way better for me. Unlike gpw/gpx it has type c. Coating is better than logitech one, i had problems with gpw/gpx because of sweatiny hands but after getting incott problem is gone it's noticeably grippier for me. Stock skates are very close to tiger ice v2 and nowhere as trash as logitech ones. Side buttons aren't mushy . And also it has web software and 2-3 times more battery life. I mean people are paying logi $100-150 for mice worse then $43 incott. Also it's built like a tank so no noices and squeaking. And on top of that hot-swappable switches so you can use almost any switch on the market with 1ms debounce since you can just change it in 20secs if it breaks. And better, more reliable encoder btw, but to be fair i'd prefer it to be a bit heavier, it's still nice and pronounced and more pronounced than stock gpw/gpx but ideally i'd like it to be heavier.

Dex is little bit bigger but the beast X Max is ligther,but 60 grams is definitely enough , I don't think the Beast x Max's 40 grams provides any advantage.

It's Logitech's G Pro X Superlight 2. The GPX is one of the most popular gaming mice in the modern age.

Great choice. The shape is way better than the GPX imo.

I tried my attack shark x3 max. The razer viper v3 pro and the logitech g pro superlight 2. All of the have the same Problem no matter if Dongle the little usb stick or usb c cable.

G Pro Superlight 2 is goated

Really 0.0

Ok Crazy, i love the shape

Viper v3 or superlight 2 have been the best I've used, I'm not much of a razor fan but I do prefer the viper v3 here, i just prefer the way it glides on the pad, makes it feel super responsive, for gaming obviously.

I can only see the side body flex if I give it a death grip, while looking for the flex. It doesn't flex during use, at all. If you are gripping any mouse this tight on the sides, you're going to develop issues in your hands. Besides that, I don't have any of the other QC issues mentioned.

unironically the g pro x superlight 2 lol

Logitech G Pro x superlight 2 Long battery, nice middle size, very responsive, and weighs about as much as air.

I agree on the uniqueness aspect completely, so much so i disagree with the wired part. Wireless for the win i hate being tethered down. Logitech G pro x superlight 2 is my go to.

Palm grip? A superlight 2, ATK A9 Pro or Ultra (superlight clone), or a deathadder v3 hyperspeed

>quality feels identical to the regular G PRO 2. Which isn't great, that's the problem.

It’s really all preference. Super light is a safe shape. It’s comfortable for a large majority of people. The others are great as well and offer higher polling rates. One recommendation though: Do not buy a MX Master for gaming. I use one for work. It’s a heavy brick. It’s great for productivity but not for gaming.

Felt the same way in comparison to the DAV3 and lamzu thorn when I had them. I like how the dex fills out my hand but I am still waiting on my replacement skates to arrive to use it more. I am also waiting for my teevolution terra to arrive so I can compare that too.

Will do, just received my skates for the dex today. I think that you may be able to tell that the skates a heavier and thicker but to me I don't really notice it when I am ingame. Ontop of the dex being a pretty heavy mouse compared to some of my other mice. But I do understand that since the dex has such a large front skate, the weight might affect it even more and you might be able to feel it slowing down significantly more than if it was a smaller skate design. I like the thicker skate since I do have a tendancy to push down on my mouse a bit in tense situations, but I have never had any issues. It will vary from person to person and depends on alot of things like their mousepad and what not but I am a big fan of their full size skates.

Hey so this is my 1.5 week update after using the dex quite extensively and I can confirm that the magic ice skates are quite good. First couple days with the magic ice skates on the dex were a bit rough. The break in period for these skates on this mouse was a bit longer than all my other mice and I think this is mainly due to the large surface area of the skates. They were quite slow initially but wore down to feel faster. Now these skates+mouse are more controlled on my LGG saturn compared to my smaller ambi mice but I quite enjoy how it felt some days when I feel like my microadjustments are lacking. If you are looking for more speed then I would say going for jade speed dots or donuts might be more your style. However, in my opinion the dex is not a mouse for these types of players anyways if that is what you are looking for.

I find the Razer Basilisk line to be pretty comfortable, though it's a bit heavy. You'd likely be well served by something lighter as well to move around with less effort. Pulsar Xlite, Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 Dex and Razer Deathadder V3 are good choices.

I have used the logitech g303 for a couple of years and recently tried the GPX2 and Viper v3 pro, but i didnt really like the mouse buttons or the mouse skates on the gpx neither the long narrow shape with the viper so i got the Lamzu Maya X. The maya x is so good, the best and lightest mouse i have ever used. Premium quality with extra mouse skates included in a nice packaging. So happy with it!

I just got this mouse today and its amazing! i have used the g303 shroud for the past 3,5 years but now i needed to upgrade because mouseclick one stopped working. The past week i have tried Razer viper v3 and logitech g pro superlight 2. The superlights clicks was so loud and the mouse skates was imo not good. The viper v3 was great but it didnt fit my hand and playstyle because it was so long and narrow. Today i got the maya x 8k and this shape really clicked with me. Super nice shape for me and the mouse clicks both sound and feel is super great. The weight is very low as seen above, super easy to use. Im using 2k polling rate in cs and 800dpi with comp mode enabled on the mouse. It was at 100% and now after 3-4 hours its 99%. Very happy with this one:D

non pro viper wireless, razer deathadder, i'd argue g305 lightspeed, xtrfy m42, wired zowie, superlight 1, glorious wired, some lgg mice, some vaxee mice, endgame gear op1k. All these are like 25-80€ if my quick currency version is right. Some of these are wireless too. Especially if you snipe a sale you can get a really good deal. in "top tier mice" I mean the ones that are basically the same shape as the "standards", superlight 2, viper v3 pro, deathadder v3 pro, etc. Obviously the tech is a bit worse, but we were hitting insane shots on mice 15+ years ago, even the worse mice are 100% good enough. 4k/8k polling doesnt change that much, and thats the major sell of the more expensive mice. I've managed to pick up qck+ for like 10€ on average the last few years, always on sale somewhere. Otherwise a sale on a lgg saturn (standard), zowie gsr (any version you prefer). Qck might not be the longest lasting, but it's usually on a good sale so you never really have to fork out more than AT MOST 40€ a year on it if you're really picky with pad and swap it 4x a year, but most ppl usually keep it for 6-24 months atleast.

Super light 2 for me is the best right now

Can just give some warning, always been a fan of Logitech and never had any trouble before getting the Logitech super light 2 pro. Both me and my friend got one and his started acting strange from the start with random spins happening now and then. A month later mine started to do the same. Google Logitech superlight 2 pro and spin and you'll get tons of reports. This is not Linux specific though. So stay away :) As everyone else is telling most work the same in Linux as in windows.

Finally got my Viper V3 Pro Sentinels Edition is the perfect match between Beauty and Performance. The only gripe with this mouse is the big SEN logo on the back. Switched from GPX Superlight 2 have also used Final Mouse I’ll be it Cape Town, DaV3 and Logitech G303 in recent years.

Get the Logitech super light V2 pro I love it

Once you go to wireless you won’t go back to wired. It has the downsides such as needing to charge but I often get atleast 2 weeks of charge out of mine, with about 5-9 hours use a day. You can still use it aswell was charging (atleast for most of them) and most of them also take very little time to charge. This is just off my experience with the Logitech Superlight 2.

Mouse: Logitech glx super light dex 2 Mousepad: hyperx pulse fire xL Keyboard: ducky one 3 65% cherry mx reds Mostly cs2 and valorant with some occasional halo infinite or marvel rivals

I have the op1 8k (white version) and the new Xm2 8k. The op1 8k is too small for my hands but the Xm2 8k is perfect. Like op said the sensor on a wired mouse is noticeably better then wireless. I have the superlight 2 and it's no where near as good sensor wise. I can't tell any difference when playing under 240hz. But when I play 240-480hz it's definitely noticeable. Op1 8k is perfect for small to medium hands. Xm2 8k is good for medium to large hands. If your hands are medium I'd go with the Xm2 8k.

What we (left handed people) need are more (some?) true ambi mouse designs with side buttons on both sides ... I have stockpiled a few Steelseries Sensei Ten mice as I am left handed, have large hands (too big for the the Pulsar X2A and I hate the Logitech G Pro 2). I've got 2x Sensei Tens (a spare shell and a number of spare skates) as well as a Sensei 310 that I am holding onto... I hope the steelseries comes to their senses and makes a newer updated Sensei without \*\*\*\*ing it up in future... well that and sends GG to hell where it belongs.

My version had horrible mushy side buttons. Plus I prefer the dav3 shape more.

G pro Lightspeed 2 with +15g weight

I feel uncomfortable with the arch of the dex 2 I think I am using it wrong, I thought It could fit my palm grip and I am dextro but idk I feel that my aim is a little bit worse

I just got the pulsar x2 cl, it's so light and comfy, but I prefer lamzu maya over it. I was so greedy that I wanted better mouse than maya 4k, and tried g pro superlight 2, lamzu maya x, lamzu thorn, and my final conclusion is maya 4k, its the best shape I ever used in my entire life.

superlight 2, no bloatware synapse, also v3 was micro stuttering, returned

# Pros: * **New Shape:** Feels like a marriage of the G403 and the GPX Superlight shape. * The Arch fills out your hand really well, and feels real familiar to a G403 Fan like me, while the right side being Superlight Esque feels much better for claw and getting a good grip * Performance is good since it has identical internals to the GPX 2. # Cons: * **Build Quality Issues:** * Loose and inconsistent clicks with pre-travel and wobble. * Slight flex in the body, unusual for a $150 mouse.(Shown it in my video) * Wobbly thumb buttons, not as solid as expected from Logitech. * **Overpriced:** Doesn’t feel like a premium $150 mouse, especially when compared to competitors. * The Coating is poor on this white model, rather slippery # Whats weird is when I got to try a handpicked QC Display model, alot of the issues are fixed or reduced, so I would wait for later batches with better QC. **TL;DR:** Great shape and performance but disappointing build quality for the price. Wait for improvements or a sale. Here is my video review, I know it aint the best, but I am always trying to improve so I would love to hear pointers ! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyK-hNWSoFg&ab\_channel=ZXTECH](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyK-hNWSoFg&ab_channel=ZXTECH)

Please don’t get the Logitech super light like it’s a good mouse by the scroll wheel is dumb bunz

Currently own both. Based on experience, V3 Pro is better for fps games but the ‘playing safe’ ergonomics of the Superlight makes it a good all-rounder for me (gaming & work tasks)

superlight. will last a long time

There is no better mouse for game. There are mouse more comfortable for specific sizes and grips (way you hold the mouse). Usually the most comfortable and standard is an ergo mouse like razer’s deathadder, lamzu’s thorn, pulsar’s x3, logitech superlight dex… But all of those are probably more expensive than ur budget

I have the Maya X (Regular Lamzu Black), the GPX2, and the Viper V3 Pro and gave away the Logitech because in my opinion the Maya X and Viper V3 Pro are better mice. The Lamzu is my favorite out of the three mainly due to Razer’s awful software and the price. In terms of hardware quality I like the clicks, coating, sensor, and shape of the Lamzu better. People should really give the small guys a chance and stop falling for the big company marketing.

I was consistently immortal 2 on GPX when I had one. Same with a SL12. Since then, I’ve switched to a Lamzu Thorn and have been stuck green rank 😭. Definitely just coping with that I’m washed 😭. Don’t think it’s related to the mouse but ergo is more comfortable for me. With that being said - I ordered an XM2 8k the other day. We’ll see how that goes!

Honestly I really recommend using https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/mouse-search I used to use a Logitech Superlight but after going through RJN’s search feature I got a mouse that is perfect for my grip style and hand dimensions and I feel more comfortable and in control of my shooting. This was very recent so still getting used to it but a game like Delta Force Extraction I felt a difference.

I like the gpro superlight. My son really loves his HyperX Pulsefire Haste.

Bought the IPI (went for the Shark Attack brand as I wanted white) for my second PC. My main is first batch Finalmouse. The ULX smokes it in terms of how light it feels. I wont deny the value is incredible and much better then Finalmouse though. But comparing the IPI to Logitech superlight it doesn't FEEL that lighter. I weighted them on scale and IPI is 43g but feels heavier then that. Might have to the something with center of gravity on the IPI.

Logitech almost always has a mouse I can love and find comfortable (small hands don't like a heavy or chunky mouse). I currently have a wireless mouse called a superlight, really light weight and comfortable. Wouldn't say it's "cute" though but I would recommend it though.

What mouse do you have currently? What do you not like about it? What is your hand size? What is your grip style? Without some more info I’m just going to say buy a used g pro wireless and then re evaluate in a few weeks after using it what you want to do. Lighter? G pro super light. Better specs? Different shape? More buttons? Heavier? A lot of factors to choose from.

What mouse do you have currently? What do you not like about it? What is your hand size? What is your grip style? Without some more info I’m just going to say buy a used g pro wireless and then re evaluate in a few weeks after using it what you want to do. Lighter? G pro super light. Better specs? Different shape? More buttons? Heavier? A lot of factors to choose from.

I actually have one of those just sitting in the drawer. Didn't like the shape or how damn heavy it is lol I don't mind the weight of my Ec2-b or my Fk1+ which is 90gband 93g I think, but the m65 pro is like 115G I think with the weights and it has that heavy metal body. I'll probably end up giving it away or something Also have the G pro x superlight which is only like 60G. It's a good mouse, probably better for people with smaller or medium small hands The Zowie wired mice are great. Haven't tried the wireless though.. those are a bit expensive

Maya 4k, hitscan hyperlight, scyrox, op1 8k or w, superlight…

I think superlight is pretty much the safest shape on the market- it might be a bit on the bigger side for you, but should be perfectly palmable!

Superlight definitely isn’t number 1, the mouse market has changed a lot and many options exist that are cheaper for similar or better performance. That list is pretty ass though, it’s only the most recommended from the general public

pad or skates? I play rn on the Zowie H-TR with Quaoar Telos Control skates on deathadder v3 pro on my G pro x I have the corepad pro skates, they are rly smooth af and glide nice but they are a little too fast in my opinion for tac fps. Edit: check also boardzy ultimate skate tierlist video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdNx9akgTVs&t=3s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdNx9akgTVs&t=3s) he recommends the red obsidians by X-raypad as control skates for example

G Pro superlight X (or something) is also pretty good. Too bad it has that logitech bloatware. And way too expensive compared the Lamzu of course.

No such thing as a best mouse it comes down to personal preference. A safe bet is always the Superlight because its shape is versatile for grip and it is well built and reliable.

Choose by size first of all. I have somewhat bigger hands (or long fingers rather) at 20cm, and I've tried well over 30 mice. Anything under 124-125mm length is too small for me, 125-130 is good for palm/hybrid grip. \- Zowie ZA12-C or anything else from C-series (with reduced weight) or their wireless mice. \- G Pro X Superlight 1/2 is a very safe choice in both shape and sturdiness \- Razer Deathadder V3/Pro is a decent ergo shape. Delux M900 / M900 Pro is a great clone of it

Maya and GPX are pretty safe, but the Viper is not safe IMO. The comfort grooves are very deep, so the button edges are practically sharp. I couldn't place my ring finger at the right edge like I'm used to. Well, I could but it became uncomfortable quickly because of the sharpness. I used the Viper's clone though - ATK X1 Pro. Best mouse I've tried in terms of quality, clicks and weight but I couldn't use it

the GPX is just a better mouse overall, minus the extra buttons. however, i think what youre describing is more of a bell curve. youre better off with less right input for aim, but taking your finger off of w/d for e/r is inefficient as well, and limits your movement. you use more buttons on right as crutch, then use less for better aim, then more to right input to streamline left input. this is also game-specific. youre better off with no right input in a game like counterstrike, but not the finals, arma, squad, cod, apex

Tbh even my glorious model D feels better sensor wise than my gpx XD

Don’t get me wrong it’s not a good mouse at all. I just experienced the sensor is better then my GPX input wise and better with tracking and micro adjustments. It really surprised me and I think it’s just because it’s wired.

If you're willing to go outside of your comfort zone with a different brand I'd try the OP1 8k from endgame gear, even though it's wired it's seriously an amazing mouse. But if you're trying to stick with those brands then for Logitech I'd go with a superlight, even the first generation still holds up well today. And for Razer I love the Deathadder v3 as I grew up with that shape, but if you want a symmetrical mouse then a Viper V3

I prefer ambi but tbf I have a bit of an aggresive claw grip. for most forms of relaxed or palm grip, you many benefit from ergos but that being said you can definetly palm grip a lamzu maya x or gpx, both ambi mice

All about preference. It’s a solid mouse but personally not my shape. Try to find one in a display to try or bite the bullet, it’s the most popular mouse in history for a reason just cause it’s not for me don’t mean it’s not for you. I’ve spent over $1k on mice over the years looking for one I like, for me it’s somewhere between the GPro superlight and the latest deathadder shapes. Gotta try new things to learn what you like

Yeah I’m not sure OPs issue is such an issue. Logitech Superlight serves me well in each scenario that OP is overthinking.

Idk I paid $80 usd for mine… didn’t exactly break the bank, better performance, less cables… You just said the equivalent of “If you take away all the benefits, it’s essentially a mouse.” Which I guess you are right, but it’s also the type of response the annoying kid wearing yellow pajamas in the polar express would give.

I had the Dex and sent it back a couple of days ago. Its back side is just too wide for me to feel comfortable holding it. It didn't feel like the back hump was pushing against my palm the same way my gpx superlight and 703 did. The 703 shape was actually the ideal shape for me, but I had to switch to the gpx superlight at some point due to its superior specs. The superlight was great (especially the top hump), but a little too small and not ergonomic enough. If it had the size and shape of the 703, it would have been a perfect mouse. But the dex was not it.

I can't go back to the GPX either, but because of it's massive size and shape compared to what I am used to now. But if you actually gave it some time you'd get used to the weight again.

celestial 1 - skypad 3.0 xl + gpx superlight(51g) with obsidian air donuts // psylocks - black panther enjoyer, and I don’t aim train

It's all about personal preference, hand size, and grip. These types of questions are pointless—there are tons of top-level players using both the smallest and largest mice while having different grips. For me, the GPX Superlight and Finalmouse ULX Medium have the best shape and work the best for me (3000 Elo on FACEIT / consistently high Immortal 3 to low Radiant in Valorant).

man, my mouse game may be limited but the mouse that lasted me for a literal decade was a logitech g700s. Hence went with a gpro superlight which is going 3 years strong. And I remember my fair share of cheap A4tech wired/wireless mice that literally die within a year. Maybe your room/country has high humidity? Found that it fouls up mice switches/encoders fast.

Cheap? G502. Quality? G pro x super light

After 70 000 lifetime kills i can confirm that the logitech super light and the razer viper v2 pro are perfect for apex

I dont know if its good, but liquid max uses Swiftpoint Z2 . It looks weird, costs 230$ wired. It looks like it has some interesting features, but it doesnt look durable at all.. Im playing with my gpx2 , i feel like its not a perfect mouse, but its not like mouse is important in wow.

I'm currently using gpx2 as my main and I experienced vv3 pro but ended up returning it due to rma (2 times might get again on a new batch). I don't have idea about others so, I can only compare these two but I also heard they all are great mice. On comparison between vv3 pro and gpx2, first of all, main differences are clicks and shape other features such as sensor, built quality etc. very much identical on both but again about built quality, I had rma twice on vv3 pro due to pre travels, creaking and rattling. As a reference for the shape I'm a hard claw user so, hump towards back on the gpx2 gives more support at the back of my hand. Centred hump on the vv3 pro fills my hand more compared to gpx2. I like the hump support at the back of gpx2. Since the shape of gpx2 so safe, you might have a difficult time on finding a proper grip, I've been using gpx shape for almost 5 years and sometimes even my aim feels bit unstable (it gets back to normal after an hour). On the other hand, vv3 pro forced me to use a dedicated grip thus I didn't need to spend that much time to warm up my aim but I felt the lack of back support during my time with it. I only could use vv3 pro for 2 days so I believe if I had more with it I would get used to the shape. I could even performed bit better than gpx2 due to the stableness of vv3 pro. Also, gpx2 stock skates are the worst I've ever used and I ended up getting tiger ice v2 yet still not that satisfied so I will try dot skates. Additionally, for your hand size vv3 pro might feel a little big. Hope this helps you to pick one.

Nice choice. I use superlight 2 too

I got mine from the Logitech G PLAYDAYS x AimLabs Ultimate Challenge Competition. The shell has noticeable flex to it, which I never had with my GPX. Unfortunately not even able to RMA under warranty because I didn't purchase it.

If you like ergo I recently switched to the Superlight DEX. Love it and I have large hands with a similar grip to yours.

I currently use the razer viper v3 pro and it actually fits all your criteria’s beautifully! The reason I like it more than a superlight is cause it’s build design is really good, it’s lighter than a superlight , doesn’t have many buttons but the two buttons it has are actually pretty good and not annoying and low quality like the superlight plus it’s less prone to double clicking. I have used both of them and the razer viper v3 pro clears but it’s a bit on the expensive side if you don’t mind. Plus im pretty sure it also has a white model

Tbh I've had my gpx for 2 years now and the only issue I had is the scroll wheel being jumpy every now and then,and some double click on my Mouse 2 button couple of times.

Palm grip? Go GPX Superlight.

Its my favorite mouse since my first GPX (Im fairly new to the scene community)

superlight by far

Viper v3 pro and G pro X superlight 2. Both are wireless mice on the larger side and you can easily palm either one, both are great shapes as well. They also both have really low click latency and sensor latency.

G pro X superlight is a safe bet, it accommodates many grip styles and it’s pretty durable most of the time. About 50% of pro players use it to this day and have broken records with it. Just know that within this sub it’s a very hated mouse for whatever reason( also by people who have never even used the mouse lol), it’s relevant 5 years later so it’s obviously not as bad as people make it seem, yes the side buttons aren’t as good as they should be and the skates are slow but those are things Logitech does on purpose for whatever reason, maybe due to the public/majority not caring. Is it the best mouse? No, but it’s a good option.

From your comments just buy a few VXE R1 pros from Ali so if your destroying them there cheap to replace 😂😂😂 In all seriousness just get a G pro supe form Amazon try it for a month if it's uncomfortable send it back in the return window and get a lamzu Maya mini or Atlantis mini, op1we There's to many to recommend 😂

Superlight 2 gang Only the best if you exclusively play competitive fps though.

Mchose a7 ultra is top quality and prob the best gpx clone ever, been using that mouse everyday since release, its amazing. Better than my gpx dex and superlight. KadogadoYT

Mchose a7 ultra is top quality and prob the best gpx clone ever, been using that mouse everyday since release, its amazing. Better than my gpx dex and superlight. KadogadoYT

Yeah, seems like a kinda dumb post, specially since it's in the valorant sub where most don't know a thing and just say superlight because it's what the pros sponsored by logitech are using, and while not horrible, it's not ultralight and is overpriced.

[Akko Pulse01](https://preview.redd.it/fjzbjbcsh0re1.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ad8e376bc868ba0d6892f8283767b1b3cffd13a) *Akko has long been a respected name in the mechanical keyboard space, but now they’re making a bold move into the gaming mouse market. Their first attempt, the Pulse01, resembles Logitech’s G Pro X Superlight, signaling their ambition to compete with some of the best. Having tested four of those so-called “potato” mice and never quite understood the hype, I approached the Pulse01 with skepticism. Did Akko manage to impress, or is this just another forgettable attempt? Read on to find out.* *Disclaimer: Akko sent me this review unit. However, they did not influence that review, and my opinions are mine. Also, I will be directly comparing this mouse to the Logitech G Pro Superlight 2.* [Top view](https://preview.redd.it/74nf13y1i0re1.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cea0548d477f8238b7d789a48f46f94d9f46d4c9) # My “love-hate” relationship with the “Potato Shape” I’ve had three GPX mice over the last few years and I even tried GPX2 once to see what the hype was about. I kept coming back to it, trying to convince myself I was wrong and the hype had to be real. But somehow, I was never really connected with it and never understood the hype. My hands are around 21x12 cm, a good size for a relaxed claw or fingertip grip. Still, that iconic “potato” shape just didn’t suit me. While influencers and marketing push it as the ultimate gaming mouse, it always felt overhyped — like maybe we weren’t all using the same product. The first GPX had some serious issues. No lift-off distance (LOD) adjustment on a premium mouse is a crime on gamers. The skates were too thin and wore down way too fast. And the weird, slippery coating made it hard to maintain any consistent grip or control — it felt like I was constantly fumbling with the thing. But the biggest problem for me was the shape itself. That right-back hump never worked with my grip, and the mouse kept shifting at crucial moments. Even with added grips, it just felt bulky and awkward. Later on, the Logitech dev team fixed the LOD issue on GPX2 but beyond that, not much changed. The same skates, the same slippery coating, the same shape that never quite fit. Now, this is my take and I know plenty of people love the GPX series. But if you’re someone who’s struggled with it like I did, you’ll want to check out the Akko Pulse01. It surprised me, and I am sure it’s worth checking. # Scenarios *Testing time*: 3 weeks *Hand size*: 21 x 12 cm Grip: *hybrid relaxed claw/finger* *Humidity*: 55–60% *Skates*: stock skates *Mousepad*s: Artisan Hien Soft, Cerapad kin v2, Tenta-x Last Stand, Tenta-x Octo Grip, Tenta-x Jinsoku *Games*: Battlefield 1, Battlefield V, QuakeWorld. # Unboxing [Check my unboxing and first impressions video.](https://x.com/KapitanKloze/status/1900001828391035285) https://preview.redd.it/fqst7m2ni0re1.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d623f8c046f35b08d241e225ed31f87a459e4909 * Akko Pulse01 * grip tapes with Akko branding (very grippy) * spare skates * Manual * braided USB-A to C cable * 1k nano receiver * 8k dongle * extension adapter *Bottom line? Pretty rich package I’d say which leaves Logitech in the dust.* # Specs and Dimensions [Pulse01 vs GPX 2](https://preview.redd.it/xkjabjjti0re1.jpg?width=1341&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d3b092db06fe1830dbaa96ce18b79fbeaab83d7) You can see that Pulse01 is slightly smaller and narrower but it edges GPX by 1mm in height. This may seem very little but the difference is felt at hand. Wait, there’s way more to the weight than meets the eye in this diagram. Pulse01 weighs 77 grams, not 69. And that is a big difference folks. *Bottom line? Pulse01 feels very different in hand compared to GPX2, also due to the pretty hefty weight.* # Shape and Grip I’ve always thought that a slightly bigger potato shape would solve my issues with gripping that mouse. That was not entirely true when I tried Incott G23 which was a tad bigger. So imagine how much I was surprised when I gripped Pulse01 — suddenly it clicked… It just turns out that cutting some millimeters here and there did the trick for me. It’s a smaller potato but the difference to me was night and day. The most important and welcome change is that back-side hump that made me lose grip of the mouse — now it’s way less pronounced, hence I was able to shape my hand around that thing way more comfortably. Somehow, the mouse even felt a bit… ergonomic. The grip also clicked — my relaxed claw grip made sure that the back of the mouse rested comfortably at the back of my palm, both sides were secure all of a sudden and my aiming style (wrist + forearm) worked well. https://preview.redd.it/dsw0vr03j0re1.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c22a86e2fea5fef52ece8bfd5bb56346a4a77cc Fingers also rest more comfortably and closer to the clicks as Pulse01 has nice button grooves to accommodate you just fine. Mind you, since it is a pretty bulky and heavy (in 2025 ofc) mouse, I’d not recommend it for finger-tip users, mostly for claw and palm grip users, with medium to large hands. Small hands gamers should look somewhere else. *Bottom line? A smaller but heavier GPX2 does the trick here.* # Coating and Skates This is where Pulse01 outmatches GPX badly. The original coating on GPX was just slippery to me, and Logitech dropped the ball there. I don’t usually have issues with grip — my hands are strong enough, and I typically don’t struggle with gaming mice — but the coating on GPX frustrated me. It made gripping it a real challenge, and that’s one of the main reasons I couldn’t perform well with it. Akko decided to go a different path and made the coating grippy, even chalky, which works well with both dry and wet hands. All of a sudden, my problem disappeared. However, in the skates department, we have a tie. Both brands underperformed. I can see that both are using some poor, thin skates, coming in at just 0.6 mm thick. They’re not rounded around the edges either. They both should step up their game in that department. It’s frustrating, because there’s a dongle compartment lid on the Pulse01 that scratches against the pad, especially when you press the mouse down (that’s why I removed it right away). https://preview.redd.it/sgcy6fg9j0re1.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46b89e7a94ba8d383efef5942f2c85fe9573b08d But once you get used to them, the skates on Pulse01 perform correctly on cloth and hybrid pads. Nothing spectacular, though. On glass, they underperform a little, due to their poor thickness. *Bottom line? The coating on Pulse01 blows GPX2out of the water; however, skates are mediocre on both mice.* # Weight and Build Quality I’ve got news for ya. Akko has decided to give Pulse01 some real nutrition and the mouse weighs more than 99% of modern gaming mice. It weights 77 grams. So, when comparing the GPX2 and the Pulse01, there’s a huge factor that stands out: the weight. The GPX2 weighs in at a pretty light 60 grams, while the Pulse01 is heavier by 17 grams! Now, that might seem shocking and honestly, it is, given we are in 2025. And you can immediately feel that difference as it limits some of your dexterity with the mouse. And for me? I found myself wishing the Pulse01 was lighter at first but once I’d given it some time, I forgot the mouse weighed 77 grams, probably because it was comfortable to use. With the shape being so similar to the GPX2, a bit of weight reduction would make it more agile and, honestly, more enjoyable to use. It’s not that the 77 grams is extremely heavy by any means, but when you’ve experienced the weight of 60 grams of the GPX2, you start to notice the extra heft right away. So, I think Akko should think of removing that dongle compartment (which would save a few grams) because to be frank, we don’t need two dongles as we can comfortably use the 8k dongle for everything. Also, it feels a bit “dense” in hand, so I think the mouse could also use a bit of thinner materials here and there. [Top view](https://preview.redd.it/9qh4z7oqj0re1.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7c937a1c9109b97ec43ec69ce61c08a9f145fd2) But having said that, I think that even at 77 grams Pulse01 does a pretty good job of being a really solid gaming mouse that uses this extra heft to add some aiming stability. And to my astonishment, it didn’t bother me after a few days. Crazy, isn’t it? The build quality on both mice is close to excellent. Logitech is known for usually no QC issues and a very stable and reliable build, but the fact that a newcomer like Akko also performed so well here, is worth mentioning. The shell is incredibly solid and thick, very sturdy and the mouse feels like a tank. No side flex, no creaking, and no major button wobble — close to the Zowie standards. There’s no cutting corners here — it’s sturdy, reliable, and feels just as premium as something from the big names. [Side view](https://preview.redd.it/jm6zgefuj0re1.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=656ee6c619409daa2688fc9abe27886f9eafd170) Both mice are meant to handle the rigors of intense gaming sessions without breaking a sweat. In terms of durability and overall feel, they’re neck and neck. While I may have my gripes about the shape and weight of the Pulse01, I can’t deny that both mice are built to last. *Bottom line? Build quality is great on both mice, however, GPX2 destroys Pulse01 in the weight department.* # Buttons and Clicks When it comes to clicks, the GPX2 and Pulse01 take different approaches. The GPX2 uses optical switches, which are pretty loud and not on the quiet side. Some people might find that off-putting, but I don’t want to nitpick too much — it’s a preference thing. Akko features Kailh GM X White Sword switches that deliver clean clicks, and the lifespan is up to 100 million clicks. Optical clicks have a bit lower latency than mechanical ones and when compared to Akko’s solution they perform a tad better. Moreover, my M2 click had some pretravel but it wasn’t a deal-breaker I have to give Logitech the edge here. Here’s again my sound test and initial reactions video. [https://x.com/KapitanKloze/status/1900001828391035285](https://x.com/KapitanKloze/status/1900001828391035285) *Bottom line? GPX2 wins this round.* # Sensor and Performance One of the key differences between the GPX2 and the Pulse01 is the sensor tech. The GPX2 comes with Logitech’s updated Hero sensor, which finally includes LOD control (about time, right?). Meanwhile, the Pulse01 features its version of the new 3950 sensor, which on paper is more modern and offers a wider range of settings — things like Motion Sync, Ripple Effect, 8k polling rate, and even more LOD variations to fine-tune how the mouse feels. Both sensors perform well, no doubt about that. The 3950 in the G23 is technically the better sensor, with more flexibility and features, but I wouldn’t say it completely outclasses Logitech’s Hero. But there’s one advantage of Pulse01 — Akko decided to place the sensor a bit upfront (I’d day 55/45 ratio) and they hit the jackpot. Why is it important? [Right side](https://preview.redd.it/sv822pdwl0re1.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9dfbe63fbdfe622b3e029f3d40da004db799bad) When you’re flicking just your wrist, sensors down low — like, closer to the base — usually track at this funky 15-degree angle. But if the sensor’s perched up higher, that changes everything. You move your wrist, and it’s zero degrees of vertical nonsense — just pure, flat, side-to-side action. Makes snagging horizontal targets a breeze, ’cause your aim’s sliding along this natural, dead-level path. Plus, that sensor sits right where your thumb and ring fingertips hang out. So when you’re tweaking with just your fingertips, you get this wider sweep *and* tighter control. Bigger moves, tiny fixes — whatever you need, it’s there. I just wish more brands followed this path and I know that Pwnage does it pretty well. So while the 3950 is undeniably more advanced, It’s the front sensor position that crowns the Pulse01 implementation here. The Hero sensor, as refined as it is in the GPX2, holds its own. It’s stable and reliable, and Logitech has had years to perfect how it functions. But Akko’s take on it brings something a lot of aimers desire — front sensor position. *Bottom line? That front sensor position gives Akko the edge.* # Software and Battery Life I don’t like GHub — it’s not intuitive, it’s resource-heavy, and I hate to install this bloatware and load settings to mouse memory. I always set it up once and uninstall it. But at least now, GPX2 went over the 1k polling rate, and the dev team fixed LOD. But that’s nothing to be proud of if your name is Logitech. Akko’s software is an OEM solution that I’ve seen before, but it’s light and gets the job done for almost every feature this Pixart 3950 is capable of. But still, there’s some work to do. So, I won’t give any brand here my approval. When it comes to battery life, Akko’s mouse lasts around 4–5 days of heavy use at a 4k polling rate with its 500 mAh unit. Not bad, but it could actually be better and take up twice as much if you ask me. Looks like some better battery management is something I’d love to see here. Logitech is a different story -it always amazed me how long GPX2 can stay up, sometimes even a month at 1k polling and way over a week in 4k. That’s impressive. *Bottom line? Both software should be improved but battery life on GPX2 is legendary.* # In-game feeling So, I’ve been testing the Akko Pulse01 gaming mouse for over two weeks now, and it’s been a great experience. Using it in games feels awesome and I enjoy it and feel confident with it. The weight? It took me a few matches to get accustomed to it, but then it was no problem. And my aim’s been clutch — way steadier than I expected. I felt great in the game with the mouse, I got used to the 77-gram weight pretty quickly and I loved how much aim stability it provided. I love the flawless tracking and upward sensor position. However, when things heated up a bit, I felt the weight to be a small burden as I was struggling with target switching a bit. This was the mouse that convinced me that I really could play very well with the Potato Shape, but it just needed to be refined to my taste and liking. [Pulse01 on Tenta-x Octo Grip](https://preview.redd.it/c8ng814zl0re1.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f159061083f242558064df94e7bbc944ec351ebb) The mouse due to its weight feels a bit better on faster, hybrid pads than on slow cloth and controlled pads. When it comes to GPX2, you know my opinion already — due to shape and coating, I usually felt very frustrated with it. *Bottom line? Pulse01 performs better, at least to me.* # Price When it comes to price, there’s no contest. The GPX2 sits at a hefty $140, which is quite an investment. Meanwhile, the Pulse01 comes in at just $79 — more than 40% cheaper. And considering the Pulse01 is more tech-advanced with features like the upward sensor placement rate and a more versatile sensor, that price gap becomes even more striking. For a mouse that offers more cutting-edge tech, you’d expect the Pulse01 mouse to be priced higher, but it’s clear that Akkos is giving you way more bang for your buck. If you’re after value without sacrificing performance, the Akkos Pulse01 makes a pretty strong case. *Bottom line? Pulse01, no contest.* # The Verdict [Score sheet](https://preview.redd.it/nhst9z3lk0re1.jpg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c608d14ca62387021014d5ed316a5652492d0837) ***Bottom line? My pick is Akko Pulse01, but your experience may vary.*** # Bullet Points * this is the better mouse, at least to me, compared to GPX2 * great coating and overall aesthetics * great offer for the buck * incredibly solid build quality, actually almost on par with Zowie * Kailh GM X White Sword clicks are decent but could be implemented better * improved shape over GPX2 feels much safer in hand * OEM software is light and does things well * slightly front sensor position is a great solution for precision and aiming * sensor is very well implemented, and tracking is fantastic * weight should be lower but to my astonishment, I got used to it pretty quickly * skates should be thicker and rounded; they are a bit scratchy on some pads * dongle compartment can scratch the mousepad if you press the mouse down * this mouse is not suitable for fingertip but all other grips work very well * battery life is only decent and could be improved

Depends what you're playing, and what style of grip you have, what your budget is. r/mousereview It's a rabbit hole. But you can't go wrong with gpx2, viper v3 pro

In terms of feeling, Zowie ZA series is number 1 for me. When I hold it it feels like home. That's when I used to palm grip. I tried that at local store and I never owned one so idk how my aim perform with that. Currently I owned 2 mice. Viper Mini and GPX, my main. But I like the Viper Mini shape way more than the GPX. If the Viper Mini was wider, that would've been my main anyday of the week.

I got it and i dont like it that much. Will send it back tomorrow

Order of importance for peripheral quality is as follows: Mouse< Mousepad< Headphones< Monitor< Table< Keyboard< Chair< So the answer to your question is yes, it's not just important to have a good mouse, it's the most important thing your of setup if you're trying to improve at CS. If you want a good cheap recommendation, you should try the Coolermaster MM720, which is ugly as fuck but really nice comfort-wise, or the Logitech G305 for a really good wireless option. The G305's shape is like a more comfortable office mouse, so if this is your first time trying to get into gaming mice I absolutely love the G305. For more the best options, there's really only 2 logical picks for mice and that's the Logitech Superlight and Zowie EC2 Wireless. They're both genuinely worth it and at the highest level are the most used mice for their great build quality and comfortable shapes. Hope this helps you make your mind up :)

Thanks. Will wanted to buy this to replace my gpx2, but if the clicks are like you said, most likely its a dealbreaker for me. Will keep looking

I like the super light and use it for every other game but the side buttons are terrible for builds. Love the mouse but honestly the worst side buttons I’ve ever used.

Logitech Superlight with X-ray pads Jades and Huano silent brown switches. 800 dpi. And I use a custom desk mat I got off Etsy with a Persona 5 design on it. I play support mainly, so characters like Mantis and Luna Snow

Idk, I think this varies from person to person. After maining the Maya and then the ULX, I can’t use my superlight anymore for any extended period of time. Just feels like a brick to move around, as if I’m at a legitimate disadvantage

Weird. I would say Logitech has the best connectivity out of any wireless mouse I’ve tried and longer battery life than most mice. Maybe you should’ve exchanged your superlight 2 when you had a chance. But personally I love the Superlight with dot skates. My only issue with it is that the scroll wheel started bugging out after a while. But aside from that I’d say it’s my mode dependable mouse. My other is an EGG OP1we. Not as good ergo but arguably better handling. Overall, I think mousepads affect your game more than a mouse does IMO.”

Is it worse than the Superlight one? Cause that one feels really solid.

While this doesn't apply to everybody, in general lighter is better. While they are sort of overpriced for what they are, the top 2 (in my opinion) are the Logitech superlight and Razer viper v3. They're both very light, wireless, have a good sensor and more. The viper is slightly lighter than the superlight, but you can't go wrong with either of them tbh. But that's just touching the surface tho, there are so many other factors like what weight you personally like, your grip, hand size and much more.

I say in the description that I had the GPX and it was really bad

Going from a G Pro to a G Pro X Superlight 2, I immediately missed the two extra side buttons. They were very useful for mapping basic macros for the most important Lightroom functions (before/after view, highlights view, masking module and grid/develop) so that I didn't need to use a keyboard at all while editing.

Mouse: soon lamzu maya x, switching from a g pro x superlight Keyboard: xtrfy k4 rgb tkl Headset: hyperx cloud 2

I'd say the Viper V2 Pro or the G Pro X Superlight 2 are your best options in terms of a well-rounded quality/reliability/performance package.

For me, the Viper V2 Pro edged it out mainly because of the shape and it just fits my hand better for claw/fingertip grip. The clicks also feel a bit more crisp. That said, the Superlight 2 has smoother software and a super safe shape, so it really comes down to personal preference

I think you're right about the g502 but I think it's because people need the extra side buttons when they first get into mouse and keyboard gaming. They use as many keybinds on the mouse as possible as a crutch, because getting good with your left hand is one of the hardest things about learning how to play on keyboard and mouse. I think people just get into the hobby with the g502, develop such a mind muscle connection to it that they can't use anything else. Everyone I know who uses the g502 tell me it's just the first mouse they ever used and they're too use to it. I finally convinced my friend to take my GPX and use it, he learned how to game with the g502 and had been using it for 5 years. He now can't look back at the g502 and loves the gpx. It's just familiar for a lot of people and they don't want to move away from it

It's definitely minimal but I love my Logitech Superlight, you could always add a sticker to it to make it more fun, and for keyboard [this one looks cute](https://www.amazon.co.uk/YINDIAO-AK820PRO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Absorbing/dp/B0D3WK6YD5?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=AJ3TMHKS1F9WW&utm_source=chatgpt.com&th=1) and [Ducky keyboards](https://archive.blogs.harvard.edu/adeepdive/2021/03/21/review-ducky-x-mk-creator-mecha-mini/) are super cute and hot swappable (MX cherry keys) [https://www.cclonline.com/dkon2167st-bukpdpwwwsc1-ducky-one-3-classic-sf-mechanical-usb-keyboard-in-pure-white-65-rgb-uk-layout-cherry-mx-brown-switches-387633/](https://www.cclonline.com/dkon2167st-bukpdpwwwsc1-ducky-one-3-classic-sf-mechanical-usb-keyboard-in-pure-white-65-rgb-uk-layout-cherry-mx-brown-switches-387633/)

Lamzu Atlantis Mini 4K. I’ve tried the Superlights, the Vipers and even a Model O. I swear by my Atlantis Mini 🙏🏻

One and only gpx

Just from a shape perspective it seems to be very different from the V8. The V8 is much smaller overall with a lower rear hump and not as much mid range with more tapering, this is more a X2H larger rear hump and the size and width of a GPX

Hate my gpx, hardware so ass my battery dies in 3 hours

My is at 500 too

Tried but its been voided :(

Imo after playing a Logitech g502, g702, super light, and glorious model O wireless, I still fondly remember the generic HP office laser mouse having the best feel. Imo if you want a sturdy mouse the g502 shouldn't be your first pick (felt way more "unstable" in terms of quality compared to the other mice, and the mouse wheel wobbled worse).

Logitech Super light or razer viper ultimate (turn off the RGB and you'll never know it has any)

Gpx superlight does it for me but it comes down to how you feel comfortable gripping it. Do some research on r/mousereview Bonus points if you can try one out in a physical store I'm gaming and coding btw If you are just working or similar, get something like the Logitech mx or similar comfortable mice. Don't overlook ergonomics

super light dex has my heart and then some, will be using from now on i dont see a way it could get better

do you find the shapes of the maya x and vv3pro similar? cause I hated viper v3 pro shape, but gpx was okey. Im looking for something ambi similar to gpx and different from vv3 pro

Op18k or gpx super light with jade skates on raiden mid.

My Mount Rushmore of mice: Xtrfy M4/M64 (my goat), Zowie EC2 (my safe place), G pro x superlight (my basic b), Roccat Burst Pro (my first love).

Just as usual : You aren't giving any useful information about WHAT would be the best pick for you There is no "best mouse of the market" otherwise we would all be using it Hand size, grip style are minimum required for people to give personalized recommendations. Maybe try some of the safest shapes available, GPX2 and Razer Viper V3, for 200€ max then the V3 Pro might be the best choice. But because you don't give information we just can't know if something might suit you better

I've honestly just given up and went with the GPX2 after trying out like 5 different mice

there's a lot more factors into it if you're just looking at the peripherals. These could include mousepad, mouse weight, size, grip etc. Personally I've used a lot of mice playing tac fps. These includes a Logitech G402, EC2, 2 crappy GPWs, RVU, a very bad copy of the GPX, DAV3P, and now I'm on my Lamzu Maya X and EGG XM2W 4K Looking back I think I made the most progress with my game with the RVU, then again I also upgraded to a Hien mousepad from a very old QcK. You could also say that my own personal growth as a player could've contributed to it as well. Although looking at it objectively it's actually quite funny since I felt that playing the AWP/OP I was more consistent when using an ergo mouse and when rifling I feel more consistent with an ambi mouse. I think even today when I'm playing Rivals, l4d2, BF, or Squad with the boys I still feel the same way.

Logitech Superlight. Best gaming mouse

I've had my best aim era with g203 never felt that feeling again. +23 mice on my own. Ec2 feels like a glove coming fron g203. Superlighit feels comfy but the clicks arent crazy. Good luck.

From those I'd say the superlight. Then the Hitscan. I like the g502x shape the best though, it's slightly better than the g502 hero. Never liked those low back profile, I realize it's to decrease weight and volume but those shouldn't be compensated for the feel of the mouse.

Thank you for your well written review I relate your hand size and the quest of finding a great mouse that would fit my hands(20.5x12) and claw grip. My mice journey is as follows: My first mouse was a intellimouse then a razer deathadder first gen then a mamba I loved that mouse a lot (hence why I'm hyped since x3 seems like a similar shape) then deathadder 2013 then I had zowie s2, ec1b csgo edition, gwolves sköll, glorious model O, g pro x superlight, endgame gear xm1r(loved the locked it feeling) vaxee np01 I had strain really quick with it then Dav3 didn't like it as I thought. I got a Lamzu Atlantis last year and experienced the same strain as the xm1r 6 months ago I got a Fantech helios 2 pro that I just sold and then the 2 mice I have right now are the Scyrox v8 and the incott ghero pro I'm currently trying to sell the incott to be able to purchase the maya X, do you think I should dig or wait for X3?

In cs2 too, you see the players desks at all big tournaments and almost everyone is using g pro x superlight. Its not even a sponsor thing, like with zowie monitors. Its just the best mouse for almost all hands. That being said, I found it a bit small for me! Top 3 mice imo are g pro x, deathadder v3 pro, viper v3 pro Next choices would be the ones all the aimlab bros are hyping

there is no double clicking on gpx2 though right?

I find Superlight to be pretty bulky and that's why it feels heavier in my mind than other mice that actually weigh more.

I got both, and those two feels very different in hand

I have no idea how I started down this rabbit hole, but I am here. I'm currently maining op1we and love almost everything about it, just wish it was a tad lighter. I switch it up with the beast x mini, but the scroll wheel is So stiff for me that its sold alot of games (skill issue, I know) I'm really wanting to try the hitscan hyperlight. Wondering if it might be my true end game 🤔 Tried: Gpx: too big Sora v2: hump is too obnoxious Orochi v2: hump too obnoxious Model o: too cheap feeling, gave to my kid

Are you sure you are using fingertip and palm grip hybrid? You probably are mistaking palm for relaxed claw grip. And you are probably cramping due to size of g305 if this is the case. There are people with relaxed claw + fingertip hybrid grip including me. Mice that works for me have almost flat sides like pulsar x2 or x2h(medium or mini), gpx, or op18k.

I love the Logitech Superlight for Gaming

For me, the best formula is two buttons on each side, just like the G PRO Wireless: that mouse is a blessing since you can "disable" or "enable" either buttons on each side at will, and along with its symmetrical shape, it is one of the best mice for an ambidextrous person like me.

Main Game : CS2 Mouse: G Pro Wireless Mousepad: Artisan Type-99 XSoft Keeb: Nuphy Air75 HE

Anything by Razer is garbage and the G Pro Wireless was a huge let down, I had to replace it's switches after a couple of months of use.

Have had my g pro wireless for almost 3 years now, it’s been absolutely fantastic. The most recent models are super nice as well, they’ve updated them to weigh even less

I'll paste what I said on another post a few days ago::: "Start budget friendly before buying big $$$. There's a mass of under $50 usd mice that are great. Obvious things first: Shape preference: Do you want Ergo or Ambi, this correlates with your grip style (finger, claw, palm, or hybrid of any) Size: Do you have big hands or small hands Testing: Do you have any computer related stores near you to try them out, like display models Affordability: Don't always look at the "best" option. There may be some $40 mouse that you fall crazy for. Wired or wireless: preference, these days they perform equal to eachother with minimal latency variation Weight: Do you want light (40-60g) medium (60-80g) or heavier side (80g+) this can also fall onto your playstyle. More fast and snappy, or slow and steady Do some solid research and try to find something suited for your hands. It took me years of buying mice and wasting money to find that I perform the best with a G pro wireless shape and 40-60g weight. I'm a palm/claw hybrid grip and are fast-paced and snappy. Also, have larger hands at 21x11.5cm. I cant stress enough, you dont need to spend over $100 on a "the pros use this" mouse... in the end if that is what you like, then by all means! If it makes you happy, and you'll use it for years, then it's worth it. I fell in love with the G-Wolves Hati HTM for shooters and fast games, and also have the Zowie EC1-CW for chill out, lean-back & relax games. **Many people use multiple mice.** You don't always have to settle on one. If the budget fits 2, and you find 2 different mice for different things **and you like them both for different usage**, then do it. If you find a mouse you like for example the g pro wireless; you can go to "eloshapes" website and in the compare size tool it will show you other mice with the same or close to the same size and shape."

Logitech g502 or lightspeed. I wouldnt go with razer as i went through like 5 deathadders, and all of them developed a double click problem (i play alot of games that require alot of clicking). Had the logitech lightspeed for some time now and its been solid.