Mad Catz - M.M.O. 7 Gaming Mouse

Currently SwiftPoint Z2, one before Was SwiftPoint Z and before that was old Mad Catz M.M.O 7 [SwiftPoint Z2](https://www.swiftpoint.com/products/gaming-mice-swiftpoint-z2) [Mad Catz MMO 7](https://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/peripherals/671-mad-catz-cyborg-m-m-o-7-gaming-mouse) I can not stand stupid thumb-grid design the likes of Razer Naga or wherever it may be. MMO 7 had 80+ configurable "buttons" (3 "profiles" per game with a shift button doubling each physical button) and one thing I miss the most a simple 5D "button" that nobody has used since then. 5 actions on one "button" (more like a D pad with up, down, left, right and click function).

They're discontinued, but the Mad Catz M.M.O. 7 mouse is adjustable and gets pretty big at its largest. It also has a pinky rest that might give you some extra room to keep fingers off your mousepad area. They're on eBay for $100-200, so kinda pricey. 

The M.M.O. 7 was hands down the best design for me. It had so many programmable buttons which were laid out so thoughtfully. I made the mouse the exact size and shape I liked. The only problem was the durability. I'm hard on my mice buttons, so I would always break mine after 4 to 6 months. I must have had 8 of them between purchases and warranty replacements. Supposedly Mad Catz has improved upon this issue since they came back, but we'll have to see.

I can assure you that there are people who’ll pay lots to get this. I’m one of them too. The best mouse I’ve ever used. Paying up to $300 for 1, it’s that functional. (Though I’m glad it’s probably around $160)

Ah I see. I loved the MMO 7. It has many buttons I use happily. The best is the joystick. So good.

I have one slightly faulty version I bought in 2012. (Couple of buttons spoilt) That’s why now I’m waiting for the MMO 7+ to be released, the actual mouse is no longer in production

Yes. MMO7 is the best mouse I have ever used. So this looks great already with most of the design/functions similar and an upgrade to the software with certain hardware durability enhancements.

Yes and it’s the same one too, with just some improvements. Keeping the core there

Madcatz mmo7 gaming mouse and software. LG doesn't have shit compared to 10+ year old programs. The 502 hero is aight but programming it is a nightmare.

MMO 7+ dropping in a week or so!

no pinkie rest included, but the old mmo7 wing still fits on this one, they can be removed and replaced. Working on getting a sold separately version, also, RAT 8+ L -shaped wing can work, if you file down the area for the shift button,.

Grab the go-to for big hands: Mad Catz. RAT 8+ or MMO 7+ can actually adjust .. no need to fear ordering the wrong size , or it being uncomfortable, adjust it after you get it ! swappable parts, and true ergonomics!

RAT 8+ or MMO 7+ will do the trick. Get something that can actually adjust to your unique size of hand.

Yo! u/Kindly_Can_3772 Thanks for your question. We just launched the presale, and sold out in less than 48 hrs. Another batch will arrive in January, stay in touch with me here and/or u can hop on the wait list here: [https://forms.gle/G9mVM1owLmLFeoRy6](https://forms.gle/G9mVM1owLmLFeoRy6)

Also: We got the MMO 7+ before GTA VI ;)

I am one of these people and I like it

it certainly doesn't look very light, the plastic is thick, there are metal parts, a lot of buttons and therefore switches, I think we can confidently assume that it weighs at least 90-110 grams (probably even more, considering that the mmo 7 weighed almost 160)

Currently use a Logitech G600 but that's just tiding me over until Madcatz finally re-released the MMO7+. I have never found a gaming mouse as comfortable or versatile as the MMO7

Excited to see an update, somewhat disappointed that it looks like it doesn't include the interchangeable right side pieces. Hopefully an add-on accessory kit will be available?

TBD. I loved the original that I had years ago, it had some unique features that were surprisingly useful. * Horizontal scroll wheel isn't unique to this mouse, but this one got the location and feel just right * Thumb down (towards desk) button is the correct thumb button actuation direction imo, it just feels way more natural than trying to squeeze inwards to me - maybe just due to my big hands though. * The two inner left/right click buttons (8&9 on their layout) toggled left and right click to a 'hold' state. Click & release once for start drag, click and release again to stop drag, for example. Really handy to have as an onboard feature. * Best of all for me was the interchangeable right side plates. They have these on the R.A.T. 8+ (and others I think?). One option has a plate to rest your pinky on so that it doesn't drag on the desk, which is a total game changer if you have wide hands or long fingers. I would have bought one for home and one for work immediately, but without the interchangeable side plate I'm not 100% sold. I guess it'll depend on pricing.

To all the shit talkers and enthusiasts alike... Let's be honest... the stuff thats important to almost all manufacturers isnt the same as whats important to gamers. And those arguing about how this mouse is ugly, that mouse is to heavy, it looks bad because its puke color or weird shape... let me break it down for you... Weight- When arguing weight of a mouse, by most accounts, its negligible. The weight difference between most mice is so small most people dont pay much, if any, attention to it. And the only major issues in weight change is from very heavy to very light and visa versa, which are polar extremes, but generally only change things in something like an FPS game, but only minorly. Shape/Styling- In terms of a mouse, id say most people have preferences, but most mice work for most people, so again, its mostly negligible. And on the bright side Mad Catz has made most if not all of their mice customizable to fit most palm styles and sizes, which makes it even less of an issue. Esthetics- Goes hand in hand with shape and styling, but again, everybody has preferences and desires on styling, colors and design, but it isnt the most important thing in the world. If you are crafty enough you could even color your own mouse to your liking. Quality- This is something everybody wants. It's very important. Something that is going to last with general daily use for many years. Number of buttons/layout- My personal belief, this is one of the most important pieces on what makes a mouse GREAT; The button layout. Unfortunately, almost no current mouse companies seems to agree with me. Mad Catz seems to be the closest to my personal design I have in my head. I think many people want different things but I say the more buttons you have, that are ergonomically aligned, allowing every finger to control 1 to 4 buttons and even more for the thumb, while also allow you to grip the mouse with pinky, thumb and palm is a sweet spot. And to reiterate on the mouse buttons, its better to have and not need, than need and not have. Utility and functionality reigns king in my opinion. And until recently, I have never thought about a hypershift function on a mouse, but I have found a few that have it, and in terms of MMO gaming, I now feel that it is a must have, not that you have to use it, but as stated, better to have and not need. Software- I think its safe to say this can make or break a perfect mouse button layout. Features built into the software is paramount. People want utility and customization. Again, better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I want to see the software for all mice become the gold standard and main selling point. Because garbage software makes a garbage mouse no matter the button layout. Every bell and whistle ever created for mice should be implemented into all software. So in essence what is most important is button layout, software, as well as quality. The rest is whatever. And this is what I am hoping for from the Mad Catz MMO 7+ that I have ordered.