Hey bro, I am normally on here trying to recommend the RAT 8+ to people with large or wide hands. Not my job per se, but I like to help out the community. I think your hands might be not suited to any of the typical 'one size fits all' mice that are available on the market. What you might consider is checking out the RAT 8+ ADV or 8+ because of the feature of a swappable / replaceable palm rest. It basically can be slid all the way back to provide more comfortable palm positioning for your hand. IF that's not sufficient, at least you could have the option of modifying that piece with the help of a 3d printing hobbyist and making it even longer / higher.. then re attaching the palm rest to the mouse - might be perfect. Alternatively, BAT 6+ would be easy to customize as well.
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BAT 6+ is symmetrical and has attachments included to adjust to your desired grip. If you want something amazingly customizable, go for the RAT 8+ ADV 8+ but it's not symmetrical. 1000 mice in one!
RAT 8+ will adjust to your hand, swappable palm / pinkie rests too. You're above average, you deserve an above average device. Mice are for boys, RATs are for men... DM if you have any questions.
If you like comfort and pinkie / thumb rests, RAT 6+ , 8+ something like that would be a big improvement for big handed people like u (adjustable and swappable parts = big improvement) , hit me up in DMs, maybe I can find u a coupon or something to welcome you to the Mad Catz FAM!
You are exactly why we make the RAT 8+ adjustable with swappable parts, you'll never fit single shape mice perfectly, as they are made for an idealized, hypothetical, 'every man' who simply - doesn't exist.
RAT 8+ is the only thing that u can actually adjust and has swappable parts to make sure you're getting a fit that suits you. Everything else you're locked into one size, shape ...
That pinkie finger will drag and get pinched under the mouse? yes? Check out RAT 8+ with pinkie rest. Also adjustable palm, and thumb rests, get something that will fit your hand.
if u wanna dominate at work, lots of productivity - consider the rat 8 + or dws for 22 buttons, + shift mode try the mmo 7+ DM me if you need more details or a code or something. Also, 8+ hrs a day u might benefit from actually adjustable mice - save those hands and wrists from repetitive strain!
Grab the go-to for big hands: Mad Catz. RAT 8+ or MMO 7+ can actually adjust .. no need to fear ordering the wrong size , or it being uncomfortable, adjust it after you get it ! swappable parts, and true ergonomics!
RAT 8+ , something you can adjust -after- you buy it to fit your hand better, extendable, swappable parts, true ergonomics not just the word 'ergonomic' on the box, actually hundreds of mice in one.
RAT 8+ has swappable parts and can be adjusted via thumb rest, pinkie, and palm rest to fit you better, you don't need to suffer with those 'one size fits nobody' soap bar mice anymore.
There is no better recommendation for your unique situation than the RAT 8+ or MMO 7+ they come with adjustable parts, and also spare / swappable parts so you can make them wider (adjustable thumb rest and also attach a pinkie rest - RAT 8+ ) sounds like they were made for you! DM me if you need more info or check our website madcatz dot com
take the stress off and grab a RAT 8+ which is hundreds of mice in one and has even swappable parts and adjustable palm, pinkie, thumb rests. No more anxiety if it will fit or cause pain later..., just adjust it.
u need a pinkie rest and swappable parts? RAT 8+ want to have max inputs 21 programmable inputs and shift mode? mmo 7+
Adjustable and swappable parts, you'll be able to adjust it immediately upon delivery, and at any time later as you adjust it to you.
[https://www.madcatz.com/En/Product/Detail/rat-8-plus-adv](https://www.madcatz.com/En/Product/Detail/rat-8-plus-adv) Just get the Mad Catz, they have adjustable palm rest and other customizeable pieces.
hey you can check for R.A.T Series of Mad Catz. R.A.T 6+, R.A.T. DWS and R.A.T. 8+ adv.
if you cna go little up in your budget then the latest M.M.O. 7 also is great choice. These mouse are feature loaded, for long term daily use and good in both gaming and normal PC use.
I have used R.A.T DWS before, so i can tell that it worth a try. you can DM me is you need more help.
Rat 8+ advance is the most comfortable mouse I’ve had.
Good luck finding one, and know they’re expensive and not durable.
- a giant handed dude who’s stuck buying new old stock every 2 years
Hey,
AliExpress mice (Skyrox, ATK, mchose…) can look great on paper, but reliability can be hit or miss. If you want something safer with a similar lightweight wireless feel, you could check out Mad Catz for example the R.A.T. DWS (wireless + versatile) or the R.A.T. 8+ ADV, which is very lightweight and adjustable.
For the mousepad, instead of going for a cheap glass one (often disappointing), I’d really recommend the GLIDE series from Mad Catz (GLIDE 19 or 38). You get a fast glide close to glass, but with way more control, less noise, and better durability. Honestly a much better value
Honestly from what you described (20x10.5cm hands, relaxed claw, liking the EC1 / DAV2 shape), I think you're still on the right track looking for larger ergo micebut I’d also throw in a bit of a wildcard: Mad Catz mice, especially their newer RAT lineup.
Something like the RAT 8+ or RAT DWS can actually work surprisingly well for bigger hands because they’re highly adjustable (palm rest length, thumb support, even width to some extent). That means you can dial it closer to that “fills your hand” feeling you got from the DeathAdder V2 or EC1, instead of being stuck adapting to a fixed shell.
A few reasons it might fit your situation:
You’re getting cramps on smaller / ambi shapes → RAT mice let you extend the body, which helps reduce finger curl strain in claw
You liked ergo but had durability issues (rubber coating) → Mad Catz uses more hard shell / modular parts, so less of that indent problem
Relaxed claw → the adjustable palm support actually works well for hybrid grips
That said, it’s definitely a love-it-or-hate-it shape, so not as “safe” as EC-style mice.
If you’re mainly playing CS and want something with strong performance rather than just following the latest hype, I’d recommend taking a look at the MAD CATZ R.A.T. 8+.
A lot of people focus only on weight and polling rate, but shape and comfort matter just as much for consistency in CS. The R.A.T. 8+ has a high-end sensor, adjustable ergonomics, and lets you fine-tune the fit to your hand, which can be a bigger advantage than chasing a few grams of weight reduction.
It’s definitely not the typical recommendation you’ll see next to all the Superlights and Vipers, but if you’re open to something different and want a mouse built around performance and customization, it’s worth checking out. Especially if you spend long hours playing and want a shape you can really dial in to your preferences.
I had a G502 at one point, but I found it a little small for my hands and a little less weight than I prefer.
After that I tried a cheapo Gamdias Zeus from Staples because I generally liked the configurability options of the G502.
Being cheap, it didn't last long. That led me to a Mad Catz R.A.T. 5. That one really hit the sweet spot for configurability and size and weight and button programming and location Etc. I still have that one and it still works , but it does seem to have some intermittent tracking issues.
I believe the company went bankrupt for a while, got resurrected but was producing cheap crap for a time, and then eventually improved again.
On hearing that they had improved their product quality, I bought a R.A.T. 8+ Advanced a couple years ago and I love it.
If you generally like the G502 but it falls a little short, you might want to consider one of those.
https://www.amazon.ca/CATZ-Gaming-Mouse-20000dpi-Buttons/dp/B08FGWWTK7
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