
Logitech G
G600 MMO Gaming Mouse
Customizable MMO workhorse, durable, but discontinued and pricey.

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RAT 8+ or 8+ ADV - depending on where u live, might be able to find a code for u or s'ting. DM if u want!
I might be able to gift you a new mousepad too, hit me up.
RAT 8+ u can actually adjust it to your hand.
RAT 8+ will adjust to your hand, swappable palm / pinkie rests too. You're above average, you deserve an above average device. Mice are for boys, RATs are for men... DM if you have any questions.
If you like comfort and pinkie / thumb rests, RAT 6+ , 8+ something like that would be a big improvement for big handed people like u (adjustable and swappable parts = big improvement) , hit me up in DMs, maybe I can find u a coupon or something to welcome you to the Mad Catz FAM!
You are exactly why we make the RAT 8+ adjustable with swappable parts, you'll never fit single shape mice perfectly, as they are made for an idealized, hypothetical, 'every man' who simply - doesn't exist.
RAT 8+ adjusts to your hand and has swappable parts, no single size mouse is going to be ideal for you. dm if you need any more help.
RAT 8+ is the only thing that u can actually adjust and has swappable parts to make sure you're getting a fit that suits you. Everything else you're locked into one size, shape ...
That pinkie finger will drag and get pinched under the mouse? yes? Check out RAT 8+ with pinkie rest. Also adjustable palm, and thumb rests, get something that will fit your hand.
if u wanna dominate at work, lots of productivity - consider the rat 8 + or dws for 22 buttons, + shift mode try the mmo 7+ DM me if you need more details or a code or something. Also, 8+ hrs a day u might benefit from actually adjustable mice - save those hands and wrists from repetitive strain!
Grab the go-to for big hands: Mad Catz. RAT 8+ or MMO 7+ can actually adjust .. no need to fear ordering the wrong size , or it being uncomfortable, adjust it after you get it ! swappable parts, and true ergonomics!
There are cheaper items: RAT 6+ or 8+
RAT 8+ , something you can adjust -after- you buy it to fit your hand better, extendable, swappable parts, true ergonomics not just the word 'ergonomic' on the box, actually hundreds of mice in one.
RAT 8+, MMO 7+ , DWS - all adjustable and have swappable parts, best for large hands and people who want a better fit!
RAT 8+ or MMO 7+ will do the trick. Get something that can actually adjust to your unique size of hand.
RAT 8+ has swappable parts and can be adjusted via thumb rest, pinkie, and palm rest to fit you better, you don't need to suffer with those 'one size fits nobody' soap bar mice anymore.
There is no better recommendation for your unique situation than the RAT 8+ or MMO 7+ they come with adjustable parts, and also spare / swappable parts so you can make them wider (adjustable thumb rest and also attach a pinkie rest - RAT 8+ ) sounds like they were made for you! DM me if you need more info or check our website madcatz dot com
RAT 8+ or MMO 7+ will give you true ergonomics, and more inputs ! lots of options!
RAT 8+ for max EGO, if you want a really cheap and extremely slept on mouse for an amazing feel: MOJO M1
take the stress off and grab a RAT 8+ which is hundreds of mice in one and has even swappable parts and adjustable palm, pinkie, thumb rests. No more anxiety if it will fit or cause pain later..., just adjust it.
u need a pinkie rest and swappable parts? RAT 8+ want to have max inputs 21 programmable inputs and shift mode? mmo 7+ Adjustable and swappable parts, you'll be able to adjust it immediately upon delivery, and at any time later as you adjust it to you.
RAT 8+ has swappable parts, and can actually adjust to your hand.
beyond a doubt, RAT series from Mad Catz, only things that actually adjust to you . Everything else is fake ergonomics.
hey you can check for R.A.T Series of Mad Catz. R.A.T 6+, R.A.T. DWS and R.A.T. 8+ adv. if you cna go little up in your budget then the latest M.M.O. 7 also is great choice. These mouse are feature loaded, for long term daily use and good in both gaming and normal PC use. I have used R.A.T DWS before, so i can tell that it worth a try. you can DM me is you need more help.
Hey, AliExpress mice (Skyrox, ATK, mchose…) can look great on paper, but reliability can be hit or miss. If you want something safer with a similar lightweight wireless feel, you could check out Mad Catz for example the R.A.T. DWS (wireless + versatile) or the R.A.T. 8+ ADV, which is very lightweight and adjustable. For the mousepad, instead of going for a cheap glass one (often disappointing), I’d really recommend the GLIDE series from Mad Catz (GLIDE 19 or 38). You get a fast glide close to glass, but with way more control, less noise, and better durability. Honestly a much better value
Honestly from what you described (20x10.5cm hands, relaxed claw, liking the EC1 / DAV2 shape), I think you're still on the right track looking for larger ergo micebut I’d also throw in a bit of a wildcard: Mad Catz mice, especially their newer RAT lineup. Something like the RAT 8+ or RAT DWS can actually work surprisingly well for bigger hands because they’re highly adjustable (palm rest length, thumb support, even width to some extent). That means you can dial it closer to that “fills your hand” feeling you got from the DeathAdder V2 or EC1, instead of being stuck adapting to a fixed shell. A few reasons it might fit your situation: You’re getting cramps on smaller / ambi shapes → RAT mice let you extend the body, which helps reduce finger curl strain in claw You liked ergo but had durability issues (rubber coating) → Mad Catz uses more hard shell / modular parts, so less of that indent problem Relaxed claw → the adjustable palm support actually works well for hybrid grips That said, it’s definitely a love-it-or-hate-it shape, so not as “safe” as EC-style mice.
If you’re mainly playing CS and want something with strong performance rather than just following the latest hype, I’d recommend taking a look at the MAD CATZ R.A.T. 8+. A lot of people focus only on weight and polling rate, but shape and comfort matter just as much for consistency in CS. The R.A.T. 8+ has a high-end sensor, adjustable ergonomics, and lets you fine-tune the fit to your hand, which can be a bigger advantage than chasing a few grams of weight reduction. It’s definitely not the typical recommendation you’ll see next to all the Superlights and Vipers, but if you’re open to something different and want a mouse built around performance and customization, it’s worth checking out. Especially if you spend long hours playing and want a shape you can really dial in to your preferences.
I had a G502 at one point, but I found it a little small for my hands and a little less weight than I prefer. After that I tried a cheapo Gamdias Zeus from Staples because I generally liked the configurability options of the G502. Being cheap, it didn't last long. That led me to a Mad Catz R.A.T. 5. That one really hit the sweet spot for configurability and size and weight and button programming and location Etc. I still have that one and it still works , but it does seem to have some intermittent tracking issues. I believe the company went bankrupt for a while, got resurrected but was producing cheap crap for a time, and then eventually improved again. On hearing that they had improved their product quality, I bought a R.A.T. 8+ Advanced a couple years ago and I love it. If you generally like the G502 but it falls a little short, you might want to consider one of those. https://www.amazon.ca/CATZ-Gaming-Mouse-20000dpi-Buttons/dp/B08FGWWTK7
went through 5x rat 7 i need that corpus but the innards are trash. the thing that powers the lazer sucks bawls rat8 chinese reboot of british rats worked for 1 day and then lazer started to turn off at random intervals. so you draw circles and they miss random pieces swiftpoint as a micro company their software is terrible and dangerous to pc unless you how to fix it through bios. and it has drivers on the server that is down because they are tiny elecom is barbie size. like baby girl sized. bought it online, on a picture it looked normal proportions. about 15 logitechs all start to double click then tripple click roccat arrived dead and was an arse to return and refund. chose because they keyboard served me for 5+ years until it started to die recently steel series worked for like 1,5-2 years and started to multiclick like logitechs. costed a ton of money. like a month or two worth of food. ~5-8 a4tech their finish peels hard. they are just shoddy but some can survive for several years. some can die faster with multiclicks or dying buttons. lottery. 5x garisons i love the GM-740G corpus despite it being a joke. if they didn't create it but stole it i wish i had the original. but it's made of garbage plastic. the MMB just breaks. some even arrive broken. defender is already a rattly one but uses the same buttons as everyone, so after some time starts to multiclick genius cheap mice so it's random when they break and how. razer got deathadder and after like 2-2,5 weeks mmb stopped working right now after these amazing adventures i gave up and bought razer naga trinity which costed a half of my monthly salary. about one year and all the paint peeled from the buttons ahhahahahah. and two cheap acers even if one breaks i have the second one. so far they are alive but i barely use them only one of them i connect to my phone together with keyboard. + wireless (xiao?)mi that i got as a gift with a laptop. so far works i wish i could try super fat logitech (and see its buttons fail like always) and corsair m65 but you can't buy those two for years
I LOVE my RAT-8, its heavy as fuck, and very customizable

Logitech G
G600 MMO Gaming Mouse
Customizable MMO workhorse, durable, but discontinued and pricey.

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Budget king: lightweight, great value, long battery life.

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Ultra-light (39g) for small hands; sensor is outdated.

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Adaptable shape, optical clicks, but scroll wheel malfunctions.

Logitech G
G502 HERO High Performance Gaming Mouse
Durable, heavy workhorse with free-spin scroll; prone to double-clicking.

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Logitech G - G600 MMO Gaming Mouse

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