Pulsar Xlite v4 Large model probably. Pulsar is on Amazon but have 2 year warranty per their website. Intellimouse Pro maybe too (no wireless rip)? Lamzu Thorn as well. Lots of good big mice out there outside of Logi/Razer. Depends if you are wanting all the extra buttons. If you do, just grab the new 502 and don't worry about it.
Try a Waizowl Cloud on Aliexpress.. Sellers are selling them for $40
I own ZA12-C, ZA13-C, S1-C, S2-C and OP18K
additionally a Intellimouse Pro.. - which gave me inspiration to checkout the Waizowl Cloud
The ZA12-C grip width is perfect for me - other mice are just a little to narrow like you described. The Waizowl Cloud is super comfortable and I aim well with it.
Checkout on eloshapes! - [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud)
For aggressive / comfortable claw the ZA12-C is still my fav.. perfect grip width and super comfortable round rear hump. The Waizowl Cloud is another fav shape easily with as much research as I've done comparing back and forth.. The tech and weight for the $ is also pretty great - idc for 4/8k hz mice.
I've used all the biggest gaming mice (Zowie EC1, Intellimouse Pro) for years with palm grip and I recently snagged a smaller, lighter mouse because it was on deep sale and it instantly made my aim better because I can now take advantage of my finger tips and wrist more.
I'm still trying to get over the shock of how much I like the smaller mouse. Here's [a comparison](https://i.imgur.com/CdupkIU.png). I guess I'm saying all this to say don't be afraid to try something totally different, you might be surprised.
I have been using wireless mice since 2005. Logitech MX user ever since the first one. Wired with a bungee is much better for gaming. I have always had both on my desk.
I said I use both. I have 2 Wireless options. I have the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro 35K, a Logitech MX 3S, and a wired Microsoft Intellimouse Pro. The wired intellimouse feels so much better for gaming. Obviously, you assume too much.
The only mouse that can match the intellimouse pro is the ec1-c but zowie discontinued it maybe you can still find a brand new or second hand unit on r/mousemarket. Dav3 wired is good but smaller the only thing bigger in the dav3 is the hump height.
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