Pulsar Gaming Gears - Feinmann F01

I know you’re supposed to measure from fingertip to wrist, but do you include your thumb when measuring width or just palm across fingers? Edit: thank you I’m 18.4 x 10, I main a crazy light x2 with a relaxed claw/Palm hybrid, big fan, definitely my favorite mouse. Also have a ULX Tarik ones using before that. Feinmann f01 is a good palm/ergo mouse at this hand size, but I did not like the relatively higher click height of m1/m2.

Oh wow I thought it was the same as the DAV3P, then I’d recommend the Pwnage stormbreaker 8k or the pulsar feinmann 01. I believe they’re super close in shape to the hyper speed.

I've got bigger than normal hands and have really enjoyed ergo mice, currently using a Pulsar Feinmann. They are wide and tall enough to still be comfortable for big hands while being light weight and small enough to use your fingers to help aim. You are probably gonna wanna try a couple mice that you can return to understand what you like but the classic ergo options from Pulsar, Razor, and Logitech are good to start. Can also look on [eloshapes](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/browse) to find mice that are similar or bigger than your G502

Pulsar Feinmann is great

Pulsar fienmann, wooting 80he with owlab ti he

I own a pulsar feinmann which is a premium mouse but I do find it funny how you defend razer as if your life depended on it and then continue by saying that you "fucking hate razer". I've watched reviews of both mice and they are good quality mice I consider both premium level since they offer good wireless technology, build quality and click implementation.

Mini ergos cater toward fingertip / claw grip for smaller hands. Smaller mice also lend themselves very well to games with a lot of verticality. Honestly as an ergo fingertip enjoyer I'd pick up this new mouse, but Pulsars XS-1 / 3950 firmware is not good.

I have all or most of the mice mentioned in your post, and similarly have had issues finding a mouse that had a right side that felt normal. The XM2w caused my hand to cramp (even tho I played awesome with it lol) The E1 is the best overall mouse I've ever used imho. The shape is second to none in my opinion. I have the ec2-dw, the pulsar super light size 1 & 2ES) and many other ergos that aren't nearly as comfy. The cons to the E1 are - the buttons have a specific bounce/spring to them, so there is a tiny bit of rattle if you slam your mouse often - the scroll wheel is fine - the side buttons have a bit of a corner to them, (I just sand it down) I'm currently switching between the E1, the Viper V3, the Zowie S2-dw Oh, and the Sora is an awesome mouse with a great shape. It's god a cool internal structure that was fun to mod and get the weight super low. I missed having the curved finger grooves (so I added my own) but overall it's an awesome mouse that I mained for months before I got into ergos. The pulsar super light is awesome, but had specific curves (along the right side and front) where I never felt 100% comfy. I have the v3ES and the v3 size 1, and both were a bit off for me. And I also didn't love the raesha optical switches.... Best scroll wheels tho! The XM2w is certainly the best built mouse of these three. If there was a version that didn't have such an aggressive inward curve along the right side I would likely be maining this mouse. That and I wish it had finger grooves... It's so solid tho... My personal rankings: 1. E1 2. Sora 3. Xlite (does the v4 still use Raesha optical switches??) 4. XM2w (but if you like the shape, its potentially #1)