Pulsar Gaming Gears - X2H CrazyLight Mini Gaming Mouse

I have the exact same problem and most mice I've used so far caused me actual pain on my hand/wrist lol So far the x2h mini is the only "safe" mice I own. Ones I tested and can't use: any gpro based shape, Lamzhu Thorn, Pulsar xlite, any ulx based shape (causes less pain compared to the others but still far from comfortable). I'm looking into getting an op1 as it should be even flatter than the x2h at the front, at least when looking screenshots and 2d shape.

Unironically, the g900/g903 it is my favorite shape I have felt so stable with it in aiming when it first came out and I still use it for pixel perfect photography editing. Sometimes I come back to it for gaming but I have to admit that it's just too heavy but todays standards, and I find myself getting back to my pulsar x2h mini. I wish there was a g900 clone just lighter so bad. I also wanna try the regular x2h from Pulsar, held it in microcenter and it felt pretty good tbh

i got a pulsar x2h mini, and they dont have too gamery aesthetic imo. i also really like how it feels in the hand (i like smaller mice) it cups nicely into the palm and its very light. pretty good price and optical switches for the buttons. ive read some negative experiences with their QC, but ive also read that they have turned it around. personally i havent had problems. they have different models too and i dont think any of them look too gamery.

Great review! I've put like 5 hours in to mine now and it's perfect. It's the only shape i have tried at this width that doesnt cramp me up in the area between my pinky and ring finger, my hand just kind of landed on the mouse and i could feel my pinky relax instantly. Clicks are at such a comfortable slope and compared to the X2H Mini i have no problem getting stuck on the hump trying to microcorrect. Also, only mouse so far i've not needed grips for (but we'll see, sometimes my hands get dry to the point where no coating regardless of how grippy it is will help).

Viper V3 Pro prob the most popular and mainstream mouse. GPX 1 and 2 still about equal with viper combined. Pulsar's two recent releases TenZ & Crazylight have some of the best overall quality and durability in the business. Unfortunately none of their other offerings so far include the pulsar opticals. But I do think the X2 mini or crazylight version might be what you want, smaller mouse you can reach the front area with very light clicks. x2h mini version if you want higher-hump at the back. Lamzu, waizowl, mchose are some of the more well-regarded value OEMs but the prices are rising so oftentimes now you can get some of the OG models for cheaper on ebay.

Imagine op1 as much thinner and flatter sides atlantis mini with the hump feeling rounded in your palm. X2h mini digs and fills out your palm so much more with the hump being rounded as well, you will have trouble for micro adjustments if that's what you usually do when aiming. For xm2 just imagine model o but the hump fills out your palm entirely, also xm2 hump feel less filling in your hand than the x2h mini. Still not much room for fingers maneuverability. I don't know what you're really looking on a shape so I'll just describe how it feels in the hand.

If x2h feels too small then neither of these mice would feel like a step up in size

X2h is much more filling in your palm than the maya x and gpx. Maybe you need something like za 12 or za 11 even

X2H mini is godly for me rn

- ATK X1(viper v3 pro shape, but imo better clicks and it’s cheaper so more budget friendly) - Sora v2 - pulsar x2h mini (shape is good, but clicks not my type, plus there are quite a bit of pre travel on the clicks)

I have first batch xlite v2 regular and mini as well as x2 mini and x2-h mini and none of them have any creaking or sensor issues, even after few months of use. Makes me wonder am I just lucky or do people just literally gorilla grip their mice and throw them all over the room or something? Just seen this sort of hate towards Pulsar which feels a bit unjustified, especially when it also comes from people who have not tried their products. I bought recently x2-h mini just to find out if there's bad QC like everyone says, and I have zero issues. I do agree that they come up with revisions and "refresh" models a bit too quick where nothing seems to have changed. Going from V2 -> V3 is probably pretty big jump and I plan on at some point to buy Xlite V3 mini just to replace my current V2. Something Pulsar could improve on is weight balancing.

Pulsar X2H mini if you want it smaller overall with a similar shape to the ZA-12. You can also put any universal dots on the Zowie, just have 1 on each corner, and maybe an extra one in the middle of the corners if needed for stability (xray pad jades is what I use)

Update: - I tried the pulsar x2h mini and I didn't like the shape, it gave me cramps instantly and I returned it. - I tried the attack shark r1, it is very economical here and it helped me to test the shape, I gave it a few days and I couldn't adapt - I tried the attack shark x3, also for the affordable price, and I instantly liked the shape, it felt natural and with more aim. I love this mouse Question: mouse similar to attack shark x3?

Update: - I tried the pulsar x2h mini and I didn't like the shape, it gave me cramps instantly and I returned it. - I tried the attack shark r1, it is very economical here and it helped me to test the shape, I gave it a few days and I couldn't adapt - I tried the attack shark x3, also for the affordable price, and I instantly liked the shape, it felt natural and with more aim. I love this mouse Question: mouse similar to attack shark x3?

Update: - I tried the pulsar x2h mini and I didn't like the shape, it gave me cramps instantly and I returned it. - I tried the attack shark r1, it is very economical here and it helped me to test the shape, I gave it a few days and I couldn't adapt - I tried the attack shark x3, also for the affordable price, and I instantly liked the shape, it felt natural and with more aim. I love this mouse Question: mouse similar to attack shark x3?

Update: - I tried the pulsar x2h mini and I didn't like the shape, it gave me cramps instantly and I returned it. - I tried the attack shark r1, it is very economical here and it helped me to test the shape, I gave it a few days and I couldn't adapt - I tried the attack shark x3, also for the affordable price, and I instantly liked the shape, it felt natural and with more aim. I love this mouse Question: mouse similar to attack shark x3?

Update: - I tried the pulsar x2h mini and I didn't like the shape, it gave me cramps instantly and I returned it. - I tried the attack shark r1, it is very economical here and it helped me to test the shape, I gave it a few days and I couldn't adapt - I tried the attack shark x3, also for the affordable price, and I instantly liked the shape, it felt natural and with more aim. I love this mouse Question: mouse similar to attack shark x3?

In that price range(50-60) idk if there’s any brand that has the shape and size you want maybe cooler master mm710 wired but pulsar has x2h mini slightly shorter on length also front with a lil bigger hump or u can go with normal version which has 12cm(op1we is 11.8) length but same front height as your op1we but bigger hump noticeable compared to op1we and for your handsize I suggest sticking to mice that are smaller than 12cm in order for your finger to reach the end, nearly all the girls i know use that cooler master cuz it’s properly small 710 is wired and 712 is wireless for under 50

If u can embrace its price(x2h mini) then i’d say it’s fairly great alternative to one you have, i considered zaopin z1 once tho its narrow back changed my mind, currently have a gpx superlight the egg itself and i can say it’s a great all rounder but won’t satisfy your needs, note that imp op1we is a great mouse you probably is its length

Pulsar x2 crazylight or the x2h mini

A lot of people coming from that shape (myself included) end up being quite happy with the Pulsar X2H Mini, Ninjutso Sora, and Scyrox V8. Like you I really loved the Logitech mouse for the same reasons when it comes to it's shape. I did a lot of research and found out another factor that makes it so satisfying is the placement of the hump which is more oriented towards the back of the mouse. But I wanted to try an upgrade and ended up with the Scyrox V8 and couldn't be happier. To me this felt like a direct upgrade while still feeling very familiar and I didn't feel like I was losing out on the shape. It even has that inward taper for the ring/pinky fingers and has the same snug feel in the back of my palm. It uses an optical version of the Omron switches for a similar if not better soft click feel as I personally don't like stiff clicks. If you decide to go with the V8 though just be aware that the battery drains pretty fast for any polling rate beyond 1kHz. When it comes to the weight and performance though feels like I got thrown lightyears into the future! lol Essentially any mouse with the X2H Mini shape should in theory feel pretty good. Just find a version that has the internal hardware/features you prefer and go with that. [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-pulsar-x2h-mini-vs.-ninjutso-sora-vs.-logitech-g305-lightspeed](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-pulsar-x2h-mini-vs.-ninjutso-sora-vs.-logitech-g305-lightspeed)

X2h mini. I own one and it fits like a glove and the coating is perfect

If u have a claw grip i highly reccomend the pulsar x2h mini, the hump is unlike normal mice way more at the rear which makes it fit into my hands super nicely. Ive been using it for about 4 months and have been loving it

Pulsar X2V2 (Mini), X2H (Mini), and Xlite V3 (3 sizes) all have huge sales in different places. They use ball bearings in the scroll wheel and their own encoder, which is very reliable. They also have optical switches, which are free from any double clicking.  They are also still around 50-58g with a 3395 and solid for the money (look for them on sale for around $50-65).  If you're willing to pay more or go for wired mice, you've got a lot of options for reliable stuff. Vaxee, Zowie, and Endgame Gear products in particular.

I switch from a beast pro max to a pulsar x2h mini often, not the same but I hold my mouse about the same and I do find the smaller pulsar a lot more comfortable for longer gaming sessions. Of the two, I prefer the pulsar to my surprise. I’ve loved that beast max for a while and thought that was it for mice for me. Both mice are light and easy to pick up. Personally I don’t think the beast max is worth the price.

Pulsar's different X2 mice are great! I have an X2H Mini, and it's the most comfortable mouse I've ever held in my hand. I would like to try an X3 Mini as well, because I've always been intrigued by smaller sized ergo mice, and I heard good things about it. you can really go with any newer mouse that isn't from Logitech, and you'll have an optimally light mouse with great performance. the reason I'm throwing Logitech under the bus is that they haven't been making their mice very light in recent years, which is pretty disappointing, since they were doing great against Razer, and now they're just super mid in every category of peripherals.

I highly recommend checking out Pulsar's options! There's the X2A which will give you 4 side buttons that are programmable. Their wireless options are also very good, without any blatant input lag. The cables are also way nicer than I've seen from Razer or Logitech, I had a Viper mini awhile back, but had to return it because it felt cheap and the cable was so stiff it'd push the mouse on its own. All of their mice have mini versions which have been perfect for my hands, which are pretty small. There's also the Coolermaster MM711, It's very small and comfy, and has a top of the line sensor for a pretty cheap price. Also if you can find it, the HK Gaming Mira S is nice, and it comes in some different colorways other than just the plain old black or white. Logitech and Razer have some nice offerings, but personally I'd avoid them. Logitech's offerings are genuinely good but their higher end options are crazy expensive compared to other brands. Razer has just always been overhyped in my experience. I've had half a dozen mice from them and each and every one has just been *okay* while being 2x the price of lesser-known brands that give you the same performance with higher quality plastics, and software that doesn't use up a bunch of background resources :/ Also honourable mention to endgame gear, the OP1 might be a nice fit for you, it's a smidge bigger than the Pulsar X2H mini -which is what I currently use- but it's still fairly small compared to most mice.

the closest mouse to the scyrox is the pulsar x2h mini. they can be found on some pretty good deals, since the next model is dropping soon

Im guessing there are better value mouse than pulsar or those who downvoted have some bad expierence with pulsar. Had a weird sensor and connection problem with my x2h mini back then but it fixed it self after resetting the mouse.

You have the same grip as me. Relaxed claw grip on the mouse and almost identical hand shape as me. I’m an 18x9. I would probably recommend something like a pulsar x2v2 or an X2H mini. If you want to go a little bit smaller you could also do an X2 Crazylight but that size is a little too small for my liking. I’m bias toward pulsar lol but I love their mouses

Honestly, the stability and weight balance (plus a better sensor) were the main reasons I went with the v3 pro. Some people thought it felt too big, but for me, the more I gripped the mouse, the more it felt like an extension of my hand. You know Wasabi from YouTube, right? He always talks about how he likes bigger mice, and we have the same hand size. I guess the shape is what really matters and how it feels in your hand. I used the g pro x superlight for like 2-3 years, and the v3 pro felt familiar when I was stable with tracking and flicking. A 40g weight is probably not for me. I've tried a bunch of small mice too, like the Atlantis mini, Maya, Pulsar X2 mini, and X2H mini. They all felt good for a few months, but the more I got used to smaller shapes, the more I lost control of my grip, and my ring and pinky fingers always got tired for a few hours, not because it was lighter but because of a really curled grip.

Fellow baby hand gamer here (8x16cm hands) I really like the Pulsar X2 Mini, X2H mini and WL Mouse Beast X mini. (Currently using the Beast X Mini) Since you didn't like the X3, you should try the WL Mouse one :D

i would not recommend pulsar mice for narrow hands. my hands are longer than OP's but i have the same width he does and my X2h mini just feels a little too wide for my liking. id highly consider the op1 4k

The best answer : test by yourself, really. People's keep saying "no, take this mouse over this one !" But there is not true answer for everyone. I only like small mouse for example like the Pulsar X2H Mini but you also have QC issues and other stuff that ruined the experience sometimes (wink wink Pulsar)

Pulsar is S tier. Never looked back after I got my X2H. The black one seems to be on sale for around 60 bucks right now.

X2H has poor quality. At least from my experience. XM2W is the better option in this shape. But I do 100% agree with your evaluation.

Try an x2h. the large back hump could allow you to anchor at your palm knuckles instead of by your thumb. My hands arent as long as yours but thats how I use my mouse. It works just as well as anchoring at the back of the palm for me

I have the X2H V3. I also have three other X2H. Some of the older ones are utter trash. All it seems that Pulsar is doing in terms of innovation is fixing the obvious problems the previous generation had. Issues that are so bad the mice should never had been released in the first place. The X2H V3 is the best X2H so far, but the main clicks are still loud and stiff. Their optical switches are miles behind the Maya X or Superlight 2. I love the shape, I hope Pulsar can get it together or there is a high quality copy.

This or the XM2 if you can find it. Can't go wrong. If you must be wireless then go for the X2H. But beware people return Pulsar mice because the main clicks can be crap. I returned two X2H and an X2 V3 before getting decent copies.

X2H Endgame shape for sure. The mouse itself is not endgame tho

I had the first X2H. I returned my OP1 as it was too small (width - too narrow) for my hands and stuck with a XM2. Chances are that the X2H might be a little on the bigger side if you prefer the OP1. And also, my pulsar dongle died after 1 year of use and the mouse had double click issues. Maybe it's better with the latest version but QC was horrendous when i bought mine.

Mouse - Terra, sometimes op1/x2h/mz1. obsidian red dots skates Pad - Saturn pro and gs2 only swap when one is busy drying from being cleaned. keyboard - k70 max rbg magnetic. Games i play elder scrolls online, battlefield games, fragpunk, valorant, cs2 and marvel rivals id say im above average at them some days not so good i have tendency to keep playing rank until i get to rank below top then lose interest in rank i get to imm3, supreme master first class then just stopped prefer just playing more fun feeling games rather than serious like battlefield fragpunk and eso i did so much trying with different mice to see which I get best score with in aim trainers they are all basically the same top 5 were x2h, terra, op1, mz1 and mm711 most comfortable was x2h least was xm2 was over a long period

There isnt. Some people find the viper the perfect one, i cant. Scyrox v8 and X2H ARE my gotto. You just gotta decide witch one would you prefer.

Okay thanks coz im using x2h and sora and i like sora more coz the hump on x2h is so backwards and slopes down i wonder if tenz edition would fit on my hand

Eh, no. X2h is closer to a za13c or an lgg LA-1 Eloshapes isn't going to show you all of the details. It's a great tool, but you will miss things like side depth, for example. You must also consider how they're aligned, as the website isn't perfect. Dont take it at face value unless you're considering what it DOESN'T show along with what it DOES Also, I hope you're giving new mice more than just a few hours. It can take some time to adjust to the nuanced features one mouse has that another doesn't. All of my mice are similar in many ways, but offer different performance depending on what I'm playing. I prefer rearward humps and forward sensors. Give yourself time to adjust, and don't get in your head about it during that adjustment time period.

Thank god I got attached to the OP1 shape, I had the same issue of 27 mice. * OP1 8K White + Corepads * OP1w v2 4K Dark Frost * OP1we White * XM1r Dark Frost * Starlight Pro TenZ Small + Tiger ICE * HSK Plus Lite Pink * Hati S Ace Wireless + Corepads * Hati S Plus 4K Transparent Black * Hati S Plus 4K White + Obsidian Dots * Hati S Plus Classic + Ghostglide Dots * HTX 4K Ruby Red + Obsidian Dots * Lamzu Atlantis Mini * Logitech G Pro Superlight White * Pulsar X2 Super Clear Mini * Pulsar X2H Mini Black * Pulsar Xlite Mini Black + Corepads + Grips * Pulsar Xlite V2 Red * Razer Orochi V2 White + Superglides * Razer Viper Mini + Corepads * Sprime PM1 * Vaxee NP-01S Blue Wireless + BTL Grips * Vaxee NP-01S White * Vaxee Outset AX Funspark * Vaxee XE White * Xtrfy MZ1 + Corepads * Zowie EC2-A + Corepads * Zowie ZA13-C + Corepads

I have larger hands, only mouse that felt gpod to me is the pulsar x2h

To stay within your budget, I recommend an Mchose K7 Ultra. The shape is almost identical to a Zowie U2 - but that shape shares a lot of similarities with ZA (and as reference I have a ZA-13 DW). Other shapes I enjoy with that back, high hump: Pulsar Tenz, Scyrox V8, Pulsar x2h.

I work in a store that sells a lot of different mice. I have smaller hands than you and even I have this problem. There is not a single mouse on the market that I can palm grip. The closest I've come to a comfortable mouse is the Pulsar X2H because it has a big hump in the back that I can rest my knuckles on. The Spatha is far to angular for it to be comfortable for anyone to use and I never recommend it to my customers. I've considered resorting to asking someone on fiver to design a shell I can 3D print using internals of another mouse. There are so many mice for people with small hands and none for people with big hands.

I have pulsar x2h, my hands are semi large so it fits my fingertip/palm grip well

If you used superlight 2 and you liked that shape, pulsar just released a new shape colab, pulsar susanto x (it is similar but not same exact shape). A lot of people said is tood, you can watch some reviews on youtube. I have xlite v4 size 2, lamzu thorn, razer basilisk, and pulsar x2h. Now I am waiting in my new susanto X.

Pulsar x2h and meletrix boog75 with padsmith genesis pro.

>This guy always doesn't recommend Pulsar mice That's just not true. The [Xlite](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite/7.html) got the Editor's Choice award. The [Xlite Wireless](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-wireless/7.html), [Xlite v2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-wireless-v2/4.html), and [Xlite v2 Mini](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-v2-mini-wireless/7.html) all got the Editor's Choice and Great Value awards (note that these were $80 or less, similar to Scyrox now). The [X2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2/7.html), [X2 Mini](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2-mini/7.html), [X2 v2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2v2/8.html), [X2H](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2h/9.html), and [Xlite v3](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-v3/8.html) each received the Highly Recommended award (launch price for these was closer to $100). Only the last four Pulsar mice reviewed by pzogel didn't get any awards; keep in mind that these four all had some level of polling instability with a launch price of $130-180, while cheaper mice like the [DeathAdder V3 HyperSpeed](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/razer-deathadder-v3-hyperspeed/7.html) ($100) had no such issues. It's easy to see why Pulsar no longer stands out enough to warrant a recommendation as they've become pricier and less competitive.

This is exactly what I'm going through right now. Ultimately I'd like to find a mouse with a shape thats an evolution of the g305. I've been looking at elo shapes to find a similar mouse but they don't really provide the curves of the mouse just the overall silhouette and size. Some of the mouse I've tried are the Razer Orochi v2, fantech aria, Razer viper, mchose l7, pulsar x2h, zaopin z1. So far I've liked the fantech aria shape the most out of all the mice I've tried but there hasn't been anything quite like the g305 shape other than ofcourse it's clone mice.

I used the same mechanical keyboard(s) and gaming mice from my old Windows gaming laptop. The keyboards can connect using wired. Bluetooth or 2.4GHz via a dongle. The gaming mice also uses a 2.4GHz dongle for better polling. keyboards - * Ikki68 Aurora R2 * Weikav Lucky65 V2 * NK65 mouse - * Pulsar X2H * Lamzu Atlantis OG V2 I find gaming mouse superior to any office and productivity mouse. Lighter, better sensors, responsive clicks and is available in a wide range of ergonomics, sizes and handedness no matter your grip.

most of the newer puslar shapes are pretty derivative of older mouse from companies like Zowie, the most unique most they have is probably the X2H, and while I personally don’t own a G-Wolves mouse, They undoubtedly have some of the most uniquely shaped and built mice on the market, they’ve been that way for a while.

U should look for a lightbulb shape like pulsar x2h or Scyrox v6 (they both have mini versions aswell but idk wich one will fit u since ur handsize is between )

comfort cames from the hump itself , pulsar x2h and Scyrox got the lightbulb type of hump wich fill ur palm perfectly

I’ve used about 50+ mice in total over the years, and honestly it is down to personal preference due to the shape being the biggest factor. My all-time favourites for me personally are the OP1w 4k and Pulsar X2H; this is probably due to me having small hands, 16.5x9.

I have the same grip and am 18x8.5. I like the Atlantis Mini and Pulsar X2 Crazylight mini. Both of these have had good QC in my experience and seem to have similar reports online from others. They're pretty similar; I mainly use my X2 for tracking games like Apex and my Atlantis for clicking/flicking stuff like tac shooters and MOBAs. Pros of X2: * better clicks * more tactile scroll wheel * lighter Pros of Atlantis: * scroll wheel takes less effort (pro in my case for tap strafing in Apex but could be a con if you use scroll to cycle your inventory in games) * more forward sensor position (pro/con depending on your preference) I've tried the Endgame gear op1w and didn't like how narrow it was. Superlight 2 was too big for me. Beast X mini was too small. Pulsar X2h basically same shape as X2 but I didnt like that the hump was higher. Viper mini I like the shape but its kinda outdated (and the signature edition so hard to find)

I’ve been using Pulsar mice since the original X2 and the Xlite v3 was finally a mouse where quality was good enough that I could recommend to others. X2 V1 had double clicking issues, even on later batches. Rather than fix that and allow buyers to RMA, they released a V2 instead that people had to re-buy. X2H had the worst clicks of any mouse I’ve ever tried. They then finally released a good mouse in the Xlite V3 but at this point, I’ve just gone for the OP1w 4K and won’t be buying from Pulsar again.

Pulsar always has issues with gen 1 versions of all of their products. Xlite, X2, X2A, X2H, all had quality control issues. If you like the X3, wait for the X3V2.

They do make a ton of mice like that. You need to look for mice that are specifically made for claw grip. Pulsar X2 or X2H is like that. Endgame gear OP1 or XM2 are also like that. Sora v1 , or Vaxee X Sora are also like that. I'm sure there plenty more that I can't think of from the top of my head. The hour glass gives your fingers better leverage to really handle the mouse but yea, if your hands are too big or small for the mouse, it can cause issues. I honestly would say the Logitech GPX has a very very subtle hour glass, that it will probably feel pretty flat on the sides for you, it's one of the safest first mice for a reason. Asus harpe ace if I remember correctly is also pretty flat on the sides, it's shaped like a Logitech GPX but just longer.

Pulsar has some really nondescript mice. Mine is a bright red X2H, but they have all kinds of colors.

Most welcome. mmm...what is your most desired grip style - claw or palm? And also what games do you normally play - FPS or MOBA? For ambi, I would go for a formfactor like the Pulsar X2H. For ergo, the OG formfactor of the DA essential, or the DA v2 mini for smaller hands, or the G403 shape. I use both ambi and ergo. Matter of fact, I recently got an old school DA v2 mini for cheap, almost forgotten how awesome that ergo shape felt.

Contrary to what you'd naturally expect, bigger hands don't necessitate a bigger mouse. It would be great if it was that straight forward, but your preferred mouse is largely determined by your grip style/finger placement and overall aim technique/how you manipulate the mouse. For instance, my hands are 21.5 x 11.5 CM and to this day after owning various mice, I main the Xtrfy MZ1 Wireless. For reference I fingertip grip (as most large handed FPS players tend to) or if I use something like the Pulsar X2 or X2H (my second and third favourite mice) I can finger tip or MCP claw them comfortably. My advice is to try more shapes (not necessarily sizes) in general. Some small mice are too small, but those same sized mice with a different shape can make all the difference. Hope that helps

19x12, knuckle claw/pincer claw/relaxed claw. Mains over the past year have been Pulsar X2H, Logi GPX, and now I'd consider the Zowie U2-DW my main. The reason being I just really have been enjoying the more curved sides on the U2-DW--I'm able to get better small movement control, which is always what I stuggle with most. Overall, just a great mouse, perfect build quality.

I have all or most of the mice mentioned in your post, and similarly have had issues finding a mouse that had a right side that felt normal. The XM2w caused my hand to cramp (even tho I played awesome with it lol) The E1 is the best overall mouse I've ever used imho. The shape is second to none in my opinion. I have the ec2-dw, the pulsar super light size 1 & 2ES) and many other ergos that aren't nearly as comfy. The cons to the E1 are - the buttons have a specific bounce/spring to them, so there is a tiny bit of rattle if you slam your mouse often - the scroll wheel is fine - the side buttons have a bit of a corner to them, (I just sand it down) I'm currently switching between the E1, the Viper V3, the Zowie S2-dw Oh, and the Sora is an awesome mouse with a great shape. It's god a cool internal structure that was fun to mod and get the weight super low. I missed having the curved finger grooves (so I added my own) but overall it's an awesome mouse that I mained for months before I got into ergos. The pulsar super light is awesome, but had specific curves (along the right side and front) where I never felt 100% comfy. I have the v3ES and the v3 size 1, and both were a bit off for me. And I also didn't love the raesha optical switches.... Best scroll wheels tho! The XM2w is certainly the best built mouse of these three. If there was a version that didn't have such an aggressive inward curve along the right side I would likely be maining this mouse. That and I wish it had finger grooves... It's so solid tho... My personal rankings: 1. E1 2. Sora 3. Xlite (does the v4 still use Raesha optical switches??) 4. XM2w (but if you like the shape, its potentially #1)

I don’t really know if I have an endgame keyboard, but my endgame mouse is probably the one I’m using right now, the Bruce Lee Pulsar X2 Mini

Pulsar mini is mg favorite, or mby op1we

Something like the pulser x2 should be comfortable