Pulsar Gaming Gears - Xlite v3 eS Gaming Mouse

Mouse: Pulsar Xlite v3 eS LE Mouse pad: Meow Gaming Ultraerialace Silver Keyboard: Ducky One2 RGB (Cherry Mx Red Silent Switches) Monitor: Alienware aw2725df Games: CS2, WoW PVE

I got my Xlite V3es a few months ago and never switched back to symmetric. I love everything about it quality-wise. In terms of shape, I have a secure grip and my gameplay improved significantly. Try one, see for yourself. If you claw grip, I wouldn't recommend larger than size 2. GLHF

xlite v3 es is the peak version atm, solid build quality and all that. I just wished they stopped using the shitty optical razer switches

Mouse: Pulsar Xlite V3es / modded ftip Viper Mini Mousepad: just a generic 450x400 control pad. Keyboard: Mad60HE Headphones: KZ EDC Pro / Redragon H848 CS2/Val (playing more OW2 recently) Hows the atk 99g holding up? I plan to buy the Air variant also since they offer a smaller size to fit my desk.

Are you looking for a Ergonomic Mouse or a Ambidextrous Mouse? If you're looking for something that is Ambidextrous, you could go with something like the Lamzu Maya X, Viper V3 Pro, G Pro Superlight. They are all pretty safe shapes. For Ergonomic Mice, I'd recommend either an Xlite v3 eS, Deathadder v3 Pro. Xlite v3 eS fills out my palm nicely with 19x10cm hands but I use relaxed claw more. But for you with relaxed claw / palm could be perfect.

Sorry I should have mentioned it doesn't have to be an eS version. (I defaulted to that as I have one). A normal v3 is the same, just different scroll wheel and lighter I believe. The Xlite v4 is the same as the v3 shape wise. The DAV3 Hyperspeed I believe is just a smaller Deathadder v3 Pro, and seeming as you didn't like the coating, I would have thought it would be the same, just a smaller version of the mouse. Another few mice you could consider is maybe a Vaxee Outset AX or E1 (I believe). They are however on the pricey side. Same with the G Pro Superlight Dex 2. Lamzu Thorn is a nice ergo IMO as well but I claw it and may be a bit too small for you.

Shape is king, man. I'm in the same boat. The Model D (EC1.5 shape) is ideal for my hand and play style. I used the SteelSeries Prime for a while—the length was fine, but the front was too narrow. Switched to the DAV3 Pro, which came close, but slightly too big and the sharp front edges irritated my ring finger. Just tried the Xlite V3 ES—amazing quality, best scroll wheel I’ve used, but the EC2-like shape is too short and I lose stability. I entered my ideal dimensions into EloShapes (between the Xlite V3 and DAV3, but with rounded corners), and the only match that I had not tried was the Glorious Model D 2. I avoided the Pro 1K/4K version because the side clicks pinch my fingers. The RGB version has a slight ring finger rest, which helps. Went with the wired version since the wireless reviews weren’t great—and honestly, it’s better quality than I expected. Scroll is nearly on par with the Xlite V3. I wish there were more options, but I’m happy with it for now. Maybe someday we’ll get a rounded DeathAdder or more EC1.5-style shapes.

Height doesn't entirely correlate with hand-size. I'm not particularly tall, but I have bigger hands than a few friends over 6ft. What are your hand sizes and how do each of your typically grip the mouse during intense gameplay moments? Palm / aggressive claw / relaxed claw / pincer claw / knuckle claw / fingertip... combination of the above or other? First blush--without that info I'd just say that there are plenty of great mice that you don't have to spend a ton of money on like Scyrox V6/V8, Mad R1 Pro, etc etc. Also, if you're in USA, check if there's a local Microcenter near you as I've found incredible mice deals there periodically. I own the Pulsar Xlite v3 eS and quite enjoy it for non-shooting games or browsing. I'm not a big fan of ergos, personally, for shooters. I never seem to get as locked in as with ambi shapes. And if you do have large hands, def go with the Maya X and not the regular Maya. People seem to really like the new DAv4, so if you're 100% sure you want to do ergo and don't mind spending the premium, it seems like a good choice. The DAv4 seems to fix some quality issues people had with the DAv3, but that's not from personal experience, just from things said by reviewers and denizens of this subreddit. Waizowl OGM v2 could be an alternative to the DAv4... [Lethal.gg](http://Lethal.gg) sells them. I'd say define the size, budget, main features you care about and I and/or others can help more. =\]

You clearly haven't used many ergos of you think they are similar. Pulsar x3 and terra are based on g703. Large mice. The dex is a little smaller and more of a right hand curve. The xlite es, sprime and keris 2 etc are right handed but more medium size mice. Knowing the size tou want is the biggest thing with ergos.

I was actually very critical of their terrible v3/v3es release. My thorn left click is starting to die so i gave the v4 a shot and i think its pretty solid. You can go back through my post history on mouse review and see I have talked a ton of crap about their QC. That said I think the v4 is a good cozy mouse for us 20x10 palm folks who want something palm-able but agile. I will say though that your criticism of them in how they handle churning out so many things is absolutely valid.

QC was so chalked on the v3 that they delayed it for what seemed like a whole year. I think the xlite shape is excellent. I'm very happy with the v4 but will not be preordering pulsar things anymore. Due to their PITA RMA process I will only be buying from amazon from now on. (I've bought every iteration of the xlite)

Best software is no software. Zowie, Vaxee and Xtrfy. Pulsar es line is also driverless

Pulsar ES mice are 90$ and include the 8K dongle not bad

Yes, the QCK Performance Speed. As for the Pulsar, it’s really up to you. With your hand size, you could go with either of their size options, it just depends on which one you think suits your grip best. I really like the Xlite Large and the Xlite ES/Medium, but I prefer ergo mice.

MX master 3s for general, xlite wireless for gaming are the ones I've stuck with

Intellimouse 3.0 and Steelseries Ikari. Nowadays probably the xlite v3 es.

i was able to buy a v4 with almost the same price of the v3 ( new stock, some guy sell it back to me cause he did not like the shape ), and so far i have no issue yet, it is a great mouse but yeah compair to the v3, not so much of an upgrade

I use an xlite v3 decent mouse super light wireless or wired I love it

I've changed it in my Xlite V2 and V3 mice... standard encoder. It may have been some unusual brand, and now maybe their own exclusive encoder how that they use a dustproof one... but its a standard encoder that can be swapped like any other.

I've been happy with Pulsar. I've been buying Xlites since the first wireless. While I own a pair of V3 Larges, the V4 made no sense to me. It's a V3.1 that isn't justifiable if you already have the V3. (So I never bought a V4) I'm currently running the X3. First thing I noticed was how shitty their skates are. With the Xlites I always had corepads ready to go on day 1. I think their stock skates have gotten thinner. Very easy to scratch a soft cloth mousepad. That lip is awful. On one of my Xlites v3s I did take a Dremel sander to them. Even with corepads it would scratch a specific mousepad I was running. Hoping corepads will solve this for the X3, but they're not out yet. So I ordered some dots in the meantime. I'll just need a lot of them.

Xlite V3 owner here, big fan so far! I know Pulsar's QC can be hit or miss, but 6+ months on and I haven't had any issues. I owned the DAv3 Pro as well and while I liked it, I didn't love it and it started having scroll wheel issues.

I just checked it out and with Xlite V3 nonetheless. I knew that being comfortable is the main thing, instead of forcing myself into learning a finger tip grip on a tiny mouse…

I've been enjoying the pulsar xlite v3. Quality mouse, good software, doesn't break the bank.

I mean if you dislike loose clicks and main button wobble the thorn and pulsar xlite v3 are atrocious for it

If you want an ergo mouse, I personally love the Pulsar Xlite v3. They have other mice (ergo and ambi) and most of them have pretty plain color schemes.

Can confirm, ordered a superlight and in one game I was constantly using the middle mouse button and it just got stuck. I have ordered a pulsar xlite v3, and the later batches don't have QC problems so let's hope it's all good.

Yep, was thinking about ordering a v3, opened their Amazon store to find there’s now a v4 and like 4 other variants out of their ambi mice in like the 6 months since I was last going to buy a v3, on top of that I’ve had QC problems with them before and seeing them just pump out more mice means none of them are going to be as good as what they should be

Rival 710 > Rival 650 Wireless > Aerox 5 Wireless > Xlite V3 > X3

>This guy always doesn't recommend Pulsar mice That's just not true. The [Xlite](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite/7.html) got the Editor's Choice award. The [Xlite Wireless](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-wireless/7.html), [Xlite v2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-wireless-v2/4.html), and [Xlite v2 Mini](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-v2-mini-wireless/7.html) all got the Editor's Choice and Great Value awards (note that these were $80 or less, similar to Scyrox now). The [X2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2/7.html), [X2 Mini](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2-mini/7.html), [X2 v2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2v2/8.html), [X2H](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2h/9.html), and [Xlite v3](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-v3/8.html) each received the Highly Recommended award (launch price for these was closer to $100). Only the last four Pulsar mice reviewed by pzogel didn't get any awards; keep in mind that these four all had some level of polling instability with a launch price of $130-180, while cheaper mice like the [DeathAdder V3 HyperSpeed](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/razer-deathadder-v3-hyperspeed/7.html) ($100) had no such issues. It's easy to see why Pulsar no longer stands out enough to warrant a recommendation as they've become pricier and less competitive.

>This guy always doesn't recommend Pulsar mice That's just not true. The [Xlite](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite/7.html) got the Editor's Choice award. The [Xlite Wireless](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-wireless/7.html), [Xlite v2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-wireless-v2/4.html), and [Xlite v2 Mini](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-v2-mini-wireless/7.html) all got the Editor's Choice and Great Value awards (note that these were $80 or less, similar to Scyrox now). The [X2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2/7.html), [X2 Mini](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2-mini/7.html), [X2 v2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2v2/8.html), [X2H](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2h/9.html), and [Xlite v3](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-v3/8.html) each received the Highly Recommended award (launch price for these was closer to $100). Only the last four Pulsar mice reviewed by pzogel didn't get any awards; keep in mind that these four all had some level of polling instability with a launch price of $130-180, while cheaper mice like the [DeathAdder V3 HyperSpeed](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/razer-deathadder-v3-hyperspeed/7.html) ($100) had no such issues. It's easy to see why Pulsar no longer stands out enough to warrant a recommendation as they've become pricier and less competitive.

One of my favorite ergos as well next to the dav3 hyperspeed, the right side feels very comfortable and has a lot of room for me to place my fingers. I’ve used the dav3 pro, Lamzu thorn and Xlite v3 but none give me the same performance as this.

My Xlite v3 medium has been perfect since getting it and payed ~80€ for it from Amazon.

Hi there,I appreciate the comment..I just saw your post and your grip ..I would say you have kind of a pincer claw/forward palm hybrid style with a  pretty steep tilt.You really like to have your ring and pinky fingers on the edge and because you have short hands for that mouse(gpx)you are forced to rise your wrist and compromise health and stability.I would recommend for you a medium/small size ergonomic mouse.Deathadder Hyperspeed, Pulsar xliteV3 medium or small,lamzu thorn,zowie ec2-c or even ec3-c could fit you well, something in that line, doesn't have to be expensive,maybe a Chinese medium ergo with good sensor to see how you like it.You should try if you like medium or small better..Hope it helps...

Hi there.Yeah,It seems that you are more comfortable with a small ergo mouse. Unfortunately there's is not much demand for that and there's few options.I would go with the Zaopin Z2 mini if you can only get it on AliExpress.Its not a true ergo,kind in between of ambi and ergo but it could fit you well.

A middle ground sounds great. Definitely need some innovation injected into the design process. I tried the Pulsar Xlite v3 and the Fnatic Lamzu Thorn recently, and while they were great mice, they just didn't feel right in my hand. The only thing that I truly love is the Razer Naga V2 Pro. I'd love to see some more innovation into mice that dive into the realm of MMOs/MMORPGs simply for the extra buttons.   My dream scenario: Razer comes out with a Razer Naga V3 Pro Wireless and the feature set of the new Naga is as follows:   **Overall** - * Significantly reduced weight (I use the 6-button side plate. Mouse weighs 131g). Around 70-80g would be welcomed. * Different color options. I'd love a Naga in that orange the [Fnatic Lamzu Thorn](https://us.maxgaming.com/bilder/artiklar/zoom/28212_1.jpg) uses. Maybe a blue like that [4Runner Voodoo Blue](https://www.butlertire.com/images/gallery/Toyota/4Runner/Toyota_4Runner_with_20in_Black_Rhino_Overland_Wheels/Toyota_4Runner_with_20in_Black_Rhino_Overland_Wheels_11886_30094_large.jpeg)? *Yes*   **Swappables** --- * Left, Right, Middle * Hot-swappable switches * Side Plates * Button Side: Keep the original 3 plate options **but** introduce a blank plate that consists of say.. 10-12 slots for buttons. Included in the package is a bag of many buttons consisting of different shapes. I personally love the 6-button (they label it as for MOBA's) side plate, but I would *love* an 8-button side plate. * Pinky side * Give us a few different plate options to customize the *width* of the Naga. * Scroll wheel * Different textured/weighted/RGB-accented wheels you can snap right into place. Maybe one that has a free/infinite ability like on some Logitech mice. * Palm * A few different plates for the palm hump. I haven't used it before, but that hump on the Zowie ZA13-DW looks so comfortable.

[pulsar xlite v3](https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/pulsar/xlite-v3), amazing mouse for around $100usd

Pulsar Xlite v3 is far and away my favorite at the moment. Have used DAV3, Ec2, gpro DEX, Vaxee outset. It’s essentially an Ec2 clone

Medium and I got the cheaper, non-es one on Amazon for 70 bucks. It’s nearly identical to the Ec2 shape

I use just a standard gaming mouse, Pulsar Xlite V3. I don't really see MMO mice as 'necessary', but if you want to use one then you do you. What *will* make you a better player however is memorizing your rotation by practicing it on a training dummy.

I’ve been using Pulsar mice since the original X2 and the Xlite v3 was finally a mouse where quality was good enough that I could recommend to others. X2 V1 had double clicking issues, even on later batches. Rather than fix that and allow buyers to RMA, they released a V2 instead that people had to re-buy. X2H had the worst clicks of any mouse I’ve ever tried. They then finally released a good mouse in the Xlite V3 but at this point, I’ve just gone for the OP1w 4K and won’t be buying from Pulsar again.

Any of these a similar shape to G pro x super light?  I currently like my g pro x super light and my Pulsar Xlite v3, but neither of them is perfect for me. I feel like there is something better out there. 

just going to reiterate what others have already said. you seem to be using a palm grip so an ergo is probably the best option. if you have large hands good options are, in no particular order: zowie ec1-dw razer deathadder v3 or v4 pro logitech pro x superlight 2 dex pulsar xlite v3 or v4 (size 3 / large) teevolution terra pro some of those models also come in medium size too if the large variant did feel too big.

Xlite v3/v4 if if you want a longer and wider mouse than the xlite v2 mini it is also has a taller hump. Now for a back hump ergo teevolution terra, pulsar x3 / mini, pulsar zywoo medium / mini, lamzu thorn (or you can wait for the new model of Thorn which some said it's bigger than the current thorn), outset ax.

Xlite v3 medium fits your description probably the lightest wired ergonomic mouse also it is a clone of the ec2 which is a popular asymmetrical mouse on the market

I just wait for a sale on any decent brand. I got a Pulsar Xlite v3 for about 2500PHP(44 USD). Pretty damn happy with the mouse way less headache than my G703.

I went from a G703 to Xlite V3 and the shape bump and weight difference was insane for me. My first grab of the I would sent it sliding forward. I got used to it now but yeah it’s make a huge difference in the palm area for me.

All endgamegear mice, newer pulsar mice (x2v2/xlite v3 and newer) razer viper v3 pro (for big/medium hands), arbiter studios akitsu (really good quality but expensive and only for small/medium hands), all vaxee/zowie mice

How about pulsar xlite v3? Currently using mini size and it's good

Lamzu thorn and pulsar xlite v3. I like the side button placement of the thorn more.

I'm using the Xlite V3. And find that it is fine for my needs. But I think that constructive criticism is always welcome and needed.

I’d get the X3. I just picked one up last night coming from the GPW and I like it so far. The hump is fairly tall, but the back slope isn’t too aggressive, so I find that it fits right in the middle of the palm pretty well. I haven’t tested it super thoroughly yet, mostly just some web browsing and random screwing around, but so far seems pretty comfortable and responsive. The extra width helps with control, as well. For reference, I thought the DAV3 and Xlite V3 were ehh in terms of comfort, with the DAV3 having too aggressive of slopes and the Xlite V3 being a bit too small for me.

I tried Dav3 and it was to big. Hyperspeed to small. I have used an xlite v3 and really enjoyed it for a few years. I was having a bit of an issue with side flair. I moved to the WLMouse Sword X and haven’t looked back. Really good mouse with no side flair so a lot more comfy in the hand IMO.

I got the v1, v2 and v3. I'll skip this one.

I've tried many small ambi mice and found these to be my favorite: Lamzu Paro (aurora or regular\[has raesha switches which suck\]), Pulsar xlite v3( not sure if you can find this cheap so you might have to go for v4), and zaopin z2 mini. I also like the shape of the Fantech XD5 but I wouldn't really recommend that for the price.

Dav3 is such a good mouse all around, but you can’t go wrong with the xlite v3 for the price. If you don’t mind spending extra, id recommend the dav3.

Pulsar Xlite v3/4 are really with a similar shape and weigh a little less.

I have the xlite v3 I haven’t had any issues so far at all but I understand from you point of view about it the only other mouse really is the superlight dex which is overpriced and the Glorious model D which is not a great mouse.

xlite v3 is my favorite rn. I used large, mini and medium version (hand 19x10) and medium is the way to go

Pulsar Xlite v3, I have one and it is great

I have the v2 and v3 can't go wrong with them for an ergo.

thats quite sad to be fair, the v2 and 3 was really good, i settled on the atk x1 ultra which i think is a 1:1 viper v3 pro clone lol

Pulsar Xlite V3 pro, i switch to this mice because my old sensei raw was starting to trigger me too much with the bugged wheel. It's so light you don't feel it rubbing on the pad. Every parameter can be set up on the mouse so it's plug and play. Wireless as well with a few weeks between charges with moderate polling rate (1kHz) and it's right handed so it feel more confortable to me. You should take a look to all those korean e-sport focused brands

Pulsar Xlite V3. If you like a light mouse with only 2 side buttons and no software required to configure/use it, I think it's solid. No free spinning scroll wheel though, that's the one thing I keep wishing I had for PoE but I've never had a mouse with that feature.

I am using a Pulsar V3 and it looks boring AF but feels and performs great.

It feels like Pulsar pumps out a new mouse every week at this point. Their mice are decent overall, but I really wish they would get around to improving their click and build quality. I find it hard to go back to my Xlite ever since I tried out the Outset Ax and EC2-CW.

I have the exact same problem and most mice I've used so far caused me actual pain on my hand/wrist lol So far the x2h mini is the only "safe" mice I own. Ones I tested and can't use: any gpro based shape, Lamzhu Thorn, Pulsar xlite, any ulx based shape (causes less pain compared to the others but still far from comfortable). I'm looking into getting an op1 as it should be even flatter than the x2h at the front, at least when looking screenshots and 2d shape.

I have all or most of the mice mentioned in your post, and similarly have had issues finding a mouse that had a right side that felt normal. The XM2w caused my hand to cramp (even tho I played awesome with it lol) The E1 is the best overall mouse I've ever used imho. The shape is second to none in my opinion. I have the ec2-dw, the pulsar super light size 1 & 2ES) and many other ergos that aren't nearly as comfy. The cons to the E1 are - the buttons have a specific bounce/spring to them, so there is a tiny bit of rattle if you slam your mouse often - the scroll wheel is fine - the side buttons have a bit of a corner to them, (I just sand it down) I'm currently switching between the E1, the Viper V3, the Zowie S2-dw Oh, and the Sora is an awesome mouse with a great shape. It's god a cool internal structure that was fun to mod and get the weight super low. I missed having the curved finger grooves (so I added my own) but overall it's an awesome mouse that I mained for months before I got into ergos. The pulsar super light is awesome, but had specific curves (along the right side and front) where I never felt 100% comfy. I have the v3ES and the v3 size 1, and both were a bit off for me. And I also didn't love the raesha optical switches.... Best scroll wheels tho! The XM2w is certainly the best built mouse of these three. If there was a version that didn't have such an aggressive inward curve along the right side I would likely be maining this mouse. That and I wish it had finger grooves... It's so solid tho... My personal rankings: 1. E1 2. Sora 3. Xlite (does the v4 still use Raesha optical switches??) 4. XM2w (but if you like the shape, its potentially #1)

Viper v3 pro is my current favorite symmetrical shape, but if you were interested in trying ergos I’ve been using a pulsar xlite for a while now and it just melts perfectly into my hand. My current favorite ec2 clone

Pulsar always has issues with gen 1 versions of all of their products. Xlite, X2, X2A, X2H, all had quality control issues. If you like the X3, wait for the X3V2.

I'd say the vaxxee e1 but that still might be a bit too wide. Try the Xlite, QC is a hit and miss maybe you get lucky. Remember the smaller the mice, the better you aim

If you told us the size of your hand it would be easier. But generally for palm something like an Pulsar Xlite would be a good choice because it comes in 3 sizes.

you basically drew an op1 and VAXEE xe/xe-s. consider those or an ergonomic mouse like the vaxee e1, ec2/3-dw, or pulsar xlite. even the VAXEE np-01s might be the best shape for you, based on the issues described. it has more ring and pinky support than any non-ergo mouse I've used and you can easily be agile with it and have a flexible grip, while having more support for the thumb and ring/pinky fingers.

Have similar hands and loved the viper ultimate, just bought a pulsar Xlite. The v2 is $55 right now

I was in the same boat. The viper v2 pro is the successor with the same shape but I saw a ton of people saying the scroll wheel breaks easily. The Zowie FK is the classic for that shape but pretty expensive. I was recommended the pulsar Xlite by a friend and it’s a different shape but made for bigger hands so I decided to try it. I can let you know how I like it 🙂

OP1 8K v2 is about $90 I think. That’s on the smaller side, and it’s well regarded as one of the best (if not categorically the best) mice for FPS. Even best mouse overall, it outperforms just about everything. Do you prefer symmetrical or ergonomic? The Razer Deathadder v3 is often on sale for $50-70, in my opinion it’s no slouch, it’s ergonomic. Much less of a performer as the OP1 but it is pretty decent. It’s large tho. If you’re interested in Pulsar their mini’s on the smaller size and I’ve seen some models (like x2 v2) on Amazon marked down to $70-90. Those will be wireless and are good. Pulsar also has an XLite (ergo) or X2 (wired) for $50, those are awesome choices IMO.

Honestly I'm amazed at how my Pulsar xlite is.. was 50$ and using it years later no issues. It's the perfect mouse for me

I used to do that with my G502 and now I have a 60g xlite and an 80g zowie plugged in, I play better on either of them

ulx small tfue/xlite crazylight/op1 8k + raiden mid

Check out Pulsar Xlite series, excellent performance, good ergonomic shape, under 60g, Comes in 3 different sizes.

Hope i had this kinda luck with everything but never had a Deathadder fail on me (v2, v3, Pro). The V4 actually removes the mechanical scroll for an optical one, so the same scroll issue shouldn’t happen. If you like the shape but don’t want to drop 170 on Razer again, the Eweadn A5 Pro has the same shape. The Superlight 2 Dex does too, though it’s pricier. This year’s really been Pulsar’s, the Xlite series matches the shape and gets strong reviews

if you want an ergo more like the model d, i recommend the razer deathadder v3 (if you don't like that you could look at the pulsar xlite series or at zowie ec2)