Pulsar Gaming Gears - Xlite V3 Mini

Slightly smaller hands but I claw a bit too, went back to ergo because more comfy for MMOs as I am not playing FPS as much right now, find claw mice better for FPS. Anyway. Lamzu Paro might be another to add to your list. Will keep tabs on this however as I am interested moving to something a fraction bigger than my Pulsar Xlite V3 mini.

If you really insist, you may want to check out [**Pulsar Xlite V4 Ultralight Weight eSports Mouse Size 2**](https://ecommerce.datablitz.com.ph/collections/all/products/pulsar-xlite-v4-ultralight-weight-esports-mouse-size-2-white-pxl422). I got the Xlite V3 Size 1 about 2 years ago and mine's still perfectly working. If you want to gift a peripheral, make it worth it. Do not buy something that won't last long term.

My hands are 17,5x9 and i tried the Xlite V3 Mini. It didnt really click for me and i think it was the right side being a bit too narrow or the pinky winding up too far forward cause of the length. I'm on a Sword X now, i was afraid it would be too big but because it is pretty low for its size it feels very manuverable but at the same time comfortable. It's very easy to move it with just the fingertips or clamp down with the knuckles when needed.

I think the zowie EC2 or viper v3 pro shapes are the best and this is coming from someone with small hands that has been using small mice exclusively for many years now. Recently got a pulsar xlite v3 mini (smaller than ec2, wish I had gotten a bigger one) and the atk x1 which is a viper v3 pro clone and I have been having a blast, for the first time in my life it feels like my grip is 100% comfortable with these 2. I haven't tried many ergos but I would recommend the xlite v3/v4 medium, deathadder hyperspeed (haven't tried it but looks good) and the atk x1 (has like 6 different versions, depending on what you need and the budget, or maybe you can get a viper v3 pro if you want the real one)

>But to pretend they're the same quality as a bigger brand is just copium. I mean there is nothing else like the X2 Crazylight from the higher-end brands so what else am I going to buy?? Razer is refusing to make high-end version of their mini mice, so if we were to compare the wired Viper Mini to the X2 Crazylight, the X2 has better quality outright. I used to own the Viper Mini SE (the magnesium shell) and it broke within a couple of days since one of the shell strut just snapped, my review even got mentioned in a GamersNexus video back in the day about the downsides of magnesium mice. It also has huge friggin holes, small scratchy feet, crap raesha switches, fingerprint magnet coating, and it's heavier overall. I really don't see why the X2 Crazylight is not considered the superior product over the Viper Mini, let alone the Viper Mini SE or the Cobra. Don't even get me started with the Xlite Crazylight compared to their wired Deathadder Mini and DAv3 hyperspeed. I have both on my table right now and the DAv3 HS has started to creak and the top layer coating on the thumb area is beginning to peel, revealing the bare plastic underneath the rubberised coating. My Xlite V3 Mini is still solid and the Xlite Crazylight is somehow more solid than the Xlite V3 and DAv3 HS despite being much lighter (also no more raesha switches). So... X2 Crazylight >Viper Mini / Viper Mini SE / Viper Cobra Xlite Crazylight > Xlite V3 Mini > DA Mini / DAv3 HS

EXACTLY the same problems as myself. I've tried a bunch of other shapes for my grip (pure fingertip/relaxed fingertip) like beast x mini, x2v2 mini, Atlantis mini, xlite v3 mini, and none came close to the feeling and aim potential the g305 gives me. the only mouse that worked similarly so far is the zaopin z1 pro, which is the only one I didn't sell and been maining since I switched off the g305. though, still waiting for a proper lightweight, good sensor and switches g305 clone (ATK please make one) so I can compare with the z1 pro.

yeah my hand started to hurt after an hour using the NP01S or the Pulsar Xlite V3 mini. I just got the Teevolution Terra and its the most comfortable ergo ive held so far.

just going to reiterate what others have already said. you seem to be using a palm grip so an ergo is probably the best option. if you have large hands good options are, in no particular order: zowie ec1-dw razer deathadder v3 or v4 pro logitech pro x superlight 2 dex pulsar xlite v3 or v4 (size 3 / large) teevolution terra pro some of those models also come in medium size too if the large variant did feel too big.

In terms of my oldest proper gaming mice i have a Logitech G203 Prodigy i bought in 2019 with thousands of hours of use on it and it still works fine, scroll wheel click is a little stiffer than when new i think but it still works. Also have a Pulsar Xlite V3 mini i bought on release, so like 2-3 years ago now, with i'd assume high hundreds to low +thousand hours on it and it still works fine. A Logitech Superlight 2 that i bought about 2-3 months after release so also around 2-3 years old now. It has less use than the others, not sure what hours i have on it but works like it did new (though i think the main clicks became less heavy/stiff after use which is a bonus to me).

i think the maya x may also be the nicest optical clicks ive tried too, hitscan hyperlights clicks are nice as well and then controversially, because everyone seems to hate raesha lol, i actually like the clicks on my pulsar xlite v3 mini.

the zowie ec-dw mice are excellent, one of my favourite ergo mice (ec2-dw matte and gloss for me). if there is a con its that the click latency is higher than most modern releases but it's still small enough that i'm not sure it would be noticeable by most people. personally i cant notice it. the only other thing that could possibly be considered a con, which is more preference based than anything, is that the sensor position, like on a lot or ergos, is relatively low which means that it tracking can feel slower than higher positioned sensors but its really a preference thing rather than one actually being better than the other but because you cant adjust the dpi settings outside of what zowie allows on the mouse itself you cant increase your dpi slightly higher to compensate if you did feel the tracking was slower than you liked. the pulsar xlite mice are great but the xs-1 sensor/firmware they use on their latest releases have a noticeable dpi downshift on dpi settings of around 1600 and above. for reference to dpi downshift see this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq9AxbF8a9g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq9AxbF8a9g) the logitech dex was too big for me otherwise i would have loved it despite some possible cons to some such as not the best skates out the box (easy fix), not the most responsive side buttons compared to some others (to me they are perfectly usable but yeah, they are not the best but i dont think the worst either as some say) and some people find the logitech superlight mice using their opticals to have clicks that are too heavy for them (newer batches are lighter than the first batch gpx2 mice and even those lighten up with use). the big plus for me with logitech mice is the hero 2 sensor, to me its the best sensor out there even compared to the other high end mice i have that use 3950 sensors with good implementation such as the vaxee e1 as well as others i either own or have used. it feels just so snappy and responsive.

Xlite v3/v4 if if you want a longer and wider mouse than the xlite v2 mini it is also has a taller hump. Now for a back hump ergo teevolution terra, pulsar x3 / mini, pulsar zywoo medium / mini, lamzu thorn (or you can wait for the new model of Thorn which some said it's bigger than the current thorn), outset ax.

Some mice worth checking out - cobra hyperspeed, op18k v2, xlite v3 mini

Dav2 mini or xlite v3 mini the dav2 mini is a tiny ergonomic mouse not sure if it's available in your country, while the xlite v3 mini is similar to the dav2 mini size wise but it's wireless.

Logitech stopped making good palm grip mice since the Millennium Falcon mouse. \- EC2/1-DW #goated \- Pulsar Xlite V3 Medium -only 75$ and it’s a little bigger than the EC2(MX518 size) and slightly too big for my average 18.7 x 9.8 cm hands to reach the right corner with my index finger and only 75$ total and don’t get V4 it has worse shape (top right corner isn’t comfortable) and speed skates Which Size? EC2 and the Xlite are very comfortable to grip at the front of the mouse with rounded corners and the front of the mouse if flat so you really can’t go too small as the smallest ergo I know of, the Xlite V3 Small, is really comfortable for me to palm as I can rest my index finger on the corner and it feels super comfortable like resting my index finger on the signature edge of the MX518. The difference is large size = more palm support for stable flicking with your whole arm and sizing down = your grip moves up on the mouse for more accurate wrist aiming so I would probably get the EC1 because it sounds like you don’t use wrist aim much and your flicks will especially be stable with the black skates applied but the Xlite V3 Medium probably won’t be much different in performance overall and half the price. **Warning:** I would stay away from the Razer DAV3/4 and GPX Dex unless you try it out in Best buy or somewhere as DAV3/4 has sharp edges and GPX Dex has flaring at the front that makes my right 2 fingers hurt like hell almost immediately.

I would try the Xlite Crazylight for your normal sized hands if you like Dav3 HS. I have similarly sized 18.7 cm x 9.8 cm hands and I really like the Xlite Mini size as it's small but the hump is proportioned to normal sized hands vs EC3, Xlite Feignnman, and and WLmouse Sword where my hand doesn't seem wide enough to get around the back of the mouse and touch the low hump resulting in little palm support.

I love palm gripping the OG RVM! I mained it for years with 18.7 x 9.8 cm hands. Your hands are pretty skinny so I’d recommend the New Xlite Crazylight in white color only as black coating is slippery as hell! Also I like the Xlite V3 original thin skates for 5$ on Amazon. If you can’t get it in white or want something cheaper I really like the Xlite V3 Mini open box (same shape just older model).

**WARNING:** If your ring finger is actually at the front right of the mouse for stabilization then you need a mouse that doesn't have flared out sides at the front or pointy corners like the Death Adder. **The 2 most comfortable large mice are the EC1-DW and Xlite Large V3.** I own the Model D (fav Glorious shape!) Xlite Small V3 and Xlite Crazylight (same small dimensions) and the Crazylight is significantly more boxy and less comfortable for my average 18.7 x 9.8 cm hands with the same grip as your first picture with palm grip using my ring finger to grip the right upper corner/front of the mouse. Also the V3 has A+ tier coating in black and more controlled and thin skates that I prefer Thus I would recommend the **EC1-DW** or **Xlite Large V3**. The safer choice imo would be the Xlite Large V3 because I have a lot of these EC2 clones and my main issue is lack of support from too low of a height but ymmv based on your hand size...