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I got the Xlite V3 Size 1 about 2 years ago and mine's still perfectly working. If you want to gift a peripheral, make it worth it. Do not buy something that won't last long term.
EXACTLY the same problems as myself.
I've tried a bunch of other shapes for my grip (pure fingertip/relaxed fingertip) like beast x mini, x2v2 mini, Atlantis mini, xlite v3 mini, and none came close to the feeling and aim potential the g305 gives me.
the only mouse that worked similarly so far is the zaopin z1 pro, which is the only one I didn't sell and been maining since I switched off the g305.
though, still waiting for a proper lightweight, good sensor and switches g305 clone (ATK please make one) so I can compare with the z1 pro.
yeah my hand started to hurt after an hour using the NP01S or the Pulsar Xlite V3 mini. I just got the Teevolution Terra and its the most comfortable ergo ive held so far.
In terms of my oldest proper gaming mice i have a Logitech G203 Prodigy i bought in 2019 with thousands of hours of use on it and it still works fine, scroll wheel click is a little stiffer than when new i think but it still works.
Also have a Pulsar Xlite V3 mini i bought on release, so like 2-3 years ago now, with i'd assume high hundreds to low +thousand hours on it and it still works fine.
A Logitech Superlight 2 that i bought about 2-3 months after release so also around 2-3 years old now. It has less use than the others, not sure what hours i have on it but works like it did new (though i think the main clicks became less heavy/stiff after use which is a bonus to me).
i think the maya x may also be the nicest optical clicks ive tried too, hitscan hyperlights clicks are nice as well and then controversially, because everyone seems to hate raesha lol, i actually like the clicks on my pulsar xlite v3 mini.
just going to reiterate what others have already said.
you seem to be using a palm grip so an ergo is probably the best option. if you have large hands good options are, in no particular order:
zowie ec1-dw
razer deathadder v3 or v4 pro
logitech pro x superlight 2 dex
pulsar xlite v3 or v4 (size 3 / large)
teevolution terra pro
some of those models also come in medium size too if the large variant did feel too big.
the zowie ec-dw mice are excellent, one of my favourite ergo mice (ec2-dw matte and gloss for me). if there is a con its that the click latency is higher than most modern releases but it's still small enough that i'm not sure it would be noticeable by most people. personally i cant notice it. the only other thing that could possibly be considered a con, which is more preference based than anything, is that the sensor position, like on a lot or ergos, is relatively low which means that it tracking can feel slower than higher positioned sensors but its really a preference thing rather than one actually being better than the other but because you cant adjust the dpi settings outside of what zowie allows on the mouse itself you cant increase your dpi slightly higher to compensate if you did feel the tracking was slower than you liked.
the pulsar xlite mice are great but the xs-1 sensor/firmware they use on their latest releases have a noticeable dpi downshift on dpi settings of around 1600 and above. for reference to dpi downshift see this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq9AxbF8a9g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq9AxbF8a9g)
the logitech dex was too big for me otherwise i would have loved it despite some possible cons to some such as not the best skates out the box (easy fix), not the most responsive side buttons compared to some others (to me they are perfectly usable but yeah, they are not the best but i dont think the worst either as some say) and some people find the logitech superlight mice using their opticals to have clicks that are too heavy for them (newer batches are lighter than the first batch gpx2 mice and even those lighten up with use). the big plus for me with logitech mice is the hero 2 sensor, to me its the best sensor out there even compared to the other high end mice i have that use 3950 sensors with good implementation such as the vaxee e1 as well as others i either own or have used. it feels just so snappy and responsive.
Dav2 mini or xlite v3 mini the dav2 mini is a tiny ergonomic mouse not sure if it's available in your country, while the xlite v3 mini is similar to the dav2 mini size wise but it's wireless.
Xlite v3/v4 if if you want a longer and wider mouse than the xlite v2 mini it is also has a taller hump. Now for a back hump ergo teevolution terra, pulsar x3 / mini, pulsar zywoo medium / mini, lamzu thorn (or you can wait for the new model of Thorn which some said it's bigger than the current thorn), outset ax.
I love palm gripping the OG RVM! I mained it for years with 18.7 x 9.8 cm hands.
Your hands are pretty skinny so I’d recommend the New Xlite Crazylight in white color only as black coating is slippery as hell! Also I like the Xlite V3 original thin skates for 5$ on Amazon. If you can’t get it in white or want something cheaper I really like the Xlite V3 Mini open box (same shape just older model).
**WARNING:** If your ring finger is actually at the front right of the mouse for stabilization then you need a mouse that doesn't have flared out sides at the front or pointy corners like the Death Adder.
**The 2 most comfortable large mice are the EC1-DW and Xlite Large V3.** I own the Model D (fav Glorious shape!) Xlite Small V3 and Xlite Crazylight (same small dimensions) and the Crazylight is significantly more boxy and less comfortable for my average 18.7 x 9.8 cm hands with the same grip as your first picture with palm grip using my ring finger to grip the right upper corner/front of the mouse. Also the V3 has A+ tier coating in black and more controlled and thin skates that I prefer
Thus I would recommend the **EC1-DW** or **Xlite Large V3**. The safer choice imo would be the Xlite Large V3 because I have a lot of these EC2 clones and my main issue is lack of support from too low of a height but ymmv based on your hand size...
I would try the Xlite Crazylight for your normal sized hands if you like Dav3 HS.
I have similarly sized 18.7 cm x 9.8 cm hands and I really like the Xlite Mini size as it's small but the hump is proportioned to normal sized hands vs EC3, Xlite Feignnman, and and WLmouse Sword where my hand doesn't seem wide enough to get around the back of the mouse and touch the low hump resulting in little palm support.
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