Pulsar Gaming Gears - Xlite v4 eS Gaming Mouse

I had superlight pro 2, now i got something that its notorious improve and i recommend : Pulsar xlite v4 eS, nothing else to say

Looking at your foto it’s probably a palm grip, so I’d recommend either a very safe ambi shape like gpx 2 (many cheaper clones available) or maya x or an ergo like Deathadder v3/v4 pro (hyperspeed if you want smaller), Xlite v4 (es) medium, ec2-dw, e1 or superlight 2 dex

You clearly haven't used many ergos of you think they are similar. Pulsar x3 and terra are based on g703. Large mice. The dex is a little smaller and more of a right hand curve. The xlite es, sprime and keris 2 etc are right handed but more medium size mice. Knowing the size tou want is the biggest thing with ergos.

Best software is no software. Zowie, Vaxee and Xtrfy. Pulsar es line is also driverless

Pulsar ES mice are 90$ and include the 8K dongle not bad

i was able to buy a v4 with almost the same price of the v3 ( new stock, some guy sell it back to me cause he did not like the shape ), and so far i have no issue yet, it is a great mouse but yeah compair to the v3, not so much of an upgrade

I've been happy with Pulsar. I've been buying Xlites since the first wireless. While I own a pair of V3 Larges, the V4 made no sense to me. It's a V3.1 that isn't justifiable if you already have the V3. (So I never bought a V4) I'm currently running the X3. First thing I noticed was how shitty their skates are. With the Xlites I always had corepads ready to go on day 1. I think their stock skates have gotten thinner. Very easy to scratch a soft cloth mousepad. That lip is awful. On one of my Xlites v3s I did take a Dremel sander to them. Even with corepads it would scratch a specific mousepad I was running. Hoping corepads will solve this for the X3, but they're not out yet. So I ordered some dots in the meantime. I'll just need a lot of them.

I was actually very critical of their terrible v3/v3es release. My thorn left click is starting to die so i gave the v4 a shot and i think its pretty solid. You can go back through my post history on mouse review and see I have talked a ton of crap about their QC. That said I think the v4 is a good cozy mouse for us 20x10 palm folks who want something palm-able but agile. I will say though that your criticism of them in how they handle churning out so many things is absolutely valid.

QC was so chalked on the v3 that they delayed it for what seemed like a whole year. I think the xlite shape is excellent. I'm very happy with the v4 but will not be preordering pulsar things anymore. Due to their PITA RMA process I will only be buying from amazon from now on. (I've bought every iteration of the xlite)

Editing in text form of the review... **Text form if you don't care to watch the video:** I was excited to try the Pulsar XLite v4 because I have been using the v3 in Large for about a year now. Other EC alternatives I tried deteriorated in quality, or weren't close enough to the EC/weren't doing anything interesting shapewise for me to try (DAv3 Pro was my main and the scroll wheel exploded) **I was looking forward to**: new clicks, new build, new bottom plate/skate design. Of these things, they made the clicks worse, the build much better, and kept the same trash bottom plate and skates. **Clicks**: The raeshas were a complaint of last gen but they were snappy, kept their snappiness over a year, but were just too light. Furthermore, they slam click, so a low sens player like myself is prone to accidentally shooting/right clicking, which can lose you fights/rounds/games in something like tac fps. The new clicks (Kailh opticals) are heavier, but just awful. Inconsistent feeling on RMB and LMB, mushy, not snappy. These are an L and a genuine downgrade from last gen. The only good thing is that they implemented a slam click filter, which every competitor (Lamzu) can push a firmware update for, but Pulsar needs to release a new $100 "next gen" mouse to do so. Lazy. Also my left click started squeaking literally mid review video. **Build**: My XLite v3 Large creaked in 1 month of use. I don't really care about creaking as it doesn't affect in game performance but it more so shows you the level of attention to detail from the production process of the company. It's fixed from an initial impression with the v4. It was solid and squeezing didn't even force any creakage. Will it stand the test of time? I don't know (spoiler: because I'm returning my copy). Kudos to them here. **Base/Skates**: The base of the Pulsar series is trash. The reason is that it has an outlining plastic ridge around the skates for the skates to line up. Sound familiar? Logitech GPX does the same. How does the GPX sound on soft/xsoft pads? Nails on a chalkboard (see clip in video). Same thing here, good thing I fell in love with mid firmness pads. Using the exact same skates/base that have known issues feels lazy. Likely to prevent new molds/production costs. Should go for bigger skates that most people like as Razer did. **Old 4k Dongle vs. New 8k Dongle**: This is the most frustrating part of this mouse. It isn't compatible with the old 4k dongle and you have to get the new 8k dongle to get access to higher polling rates. I'm personally of the opinion that higher polling rates don't matter unless you need that competitive edge/assurance, but if you're going to market/flaunt 4k and 8k on the box, you better include that dongle in the box. Furthermore, how are we 1 generation of sensor tech from the 4k dongle and it isn't compatible? Razer's Hyperpolling dongle is literally compatible across 3 generations of sensors (DAv3 HyperSpeed 26k, DAv3 Pro 30k, Viper V3 Pro 35k). I don't give a shit if there is a real technical reason as to why the old 4k dongle can't pair to the new 3950 mice, in that case it's bad design and if there is no real technical reason then this is forced obsolescence. **edit per /u/pzogel comment below, this is due to making a new in house firmware vs an older compx solution. So a technical reason exists, however, it is quite a pain to the customer. He makes much more technical reviews than I do, so check his posts/reviews if you haven't before** **Conclusion**: Pulsar spend money sponsoring VCT Pacific and certain teams (ironically, most of these players will not be seen with Pulsar mice on stage) instead of bring their mice up to par with competitors. I'm always weary of products/brands that overspend on marketing (think Honey), so I make sure to really see if their product development matches their marketing. In the case of Pulsar, it doesn't. Their previous v3 model suffered from slam clicks, and they never pushed a firmware update whereas Lamzu did so immediately. They are forcing 3950 mice users to buy new high polling rate dongles instead of updating the old one to pair to new mice (see edit above). What's even worse is that during the making of this video, [Pulsar is now teasing their own proprietary switch with just the caption 2025 on Twitter, when I was literally mocking them in the video that they would release a v5 next year with fixed clicks for another $100.](https://x.com/PulsarGears/status/1873671656809664652) It's clear to see that Pulsar give f\* all about the quality of their releases and just want to push a new $100 product to you. I know many are hype for the X3 and will be ordering it, but for those that are a fan of their other mice, I urge you to find alternative brands that actually care about the consumer.

That's great, and I can admit they can make serviceable mice (I'm still using the XLite v3). However, something really needs to be said with their lack of support and seemingly obvious release cycles. No slam click update, no 4k dongle support for new mice, downgrade in the clicks, already teasing the 2025 model, spending more on marketing than firmware updates.

Yeah it feels like the v4 has strangely gone under the radar while being out for a while too

I can recommend the Large v3 on Sale for 70 right now, it's a great deal and Pulsar mice can be solid in a vacuum, it's more so their release strategies and attention to detail that upsets me.

My v3 charges from a phone charger, should be fine

Yep, was thinking about ordering a v3, opened their Amazon store to find there’s now a v4 and like 4 other variants out of their ambi mice in like the 6 months since I was last going to buy a v3, on top of that I’ve had QC problems with them before and seeing them just pump out more mice means none of them are going to be as good as what they should be

I too am a v4 size to user. I agree with some of what you have said but disagree with others views you have made. Compatibility with the 4K I agree it’s a Micky take. And again there is is no significant difference between the v3 and v4. The software also could have been to make with the v4. But to me I have noticed click differences for the better. The scroll wheel to me is slightly higher compared to the v3. Skates couldn’t agree with you more. They go immediately. But I guess as others have said it’s down to personal preference 4K v 8k polling I don’t game and to be fair can’t see a difference, the feel is the same. If it where me the v4 could have been much more it was released to early. They should have done more but didn’t…..

OSRS player here with 19.5 × 10.5 cm hands out of the mice I’ve tried, the Pulsar Xlite V4 feels the best. I also own a DeathAdder V3 Pro, but that one ended up feeling too bulky for me.

sadly i have to agree the pulsar xlite v4 feels vry Solid but their Main buttons are super weird, they still trying to do their weird pre preassure post travel thing, feels just awful, also not a Fan of the xs 1 on 2mm lod it feels scuffed

Tried the EC1-DW and Pulsar Xlite v4 recently to replace my Basilisk v3 Pro. The Basilisk made my pinky and ring finger hurt after about an hour of gaming because I have large hands. The Zowie and Pulsar were very close. The coating on the Zowie was a bit more sweaty, however fingerprints were more visible on the Pulsar. Even though the Zowie is longer, the Pulsar felt a little bigger and better due to the larger hump. I liked the charging station / receiver that came with the Zowie- for the Pulsar there is no charging station and the 8k dongle is an additional purchase making the Pulsar 15€ more expensive than the Zowie. I liked the scrollwheel and the Zowie better because it gave more feedback. In the end I kept the Pulsar because of the shape and the slightly better coating. I‘d also like to see a large hands mouse with a large hump from Zowie.

Definitely the smaller one. The deathadder v3 pro is huge, probably it's biggest con for a lot of people. I have 20x10cm hands and I find the deathadder v3 pro too big. Im a big ergo fan and if you wanted a recommendation outside of the deathadder, I would recommend the Vaxee E1, I freaking love that mouse. It's wireless implementation is top notch, it feels like it's a wired mouse, its a great ergo mouse. And I also really like the Logitech Superlight DEX, it also has amazing wireless implementation, top tier sensor, and a comfortable shape. The deathadder also has great wireless stability and latency. I've realized just how much wirelss implementation plays a factor into how good a mouse feels, Because all modern sensors are so good these days, that wireless stability, latency, and accuracy will play a much bigger difference between which mice feel really good and which ones feel okay. I have found that Logitech, Razer, vaxee, and zowie have the best wireless implementation When ever I use something like my pulsar xlite v4, it feels way more "loose" with big flicks, it feels like it has a subpar sensor compared to the vaxee E1, or the DEX, or the Deathadder v3 pro, but it should be on par with the vaxee e1 and dav3. Do note that the deathadder v3 hyperspeed uses a lower end sensor, it's not even a 3395, but it's wireless stability and latency is sooo good, it'll feel just as good as a pulsar xlite v4 that has the highest end sensor currently, the 3950. Comparing the deathadder v3 pro to.the hyperspeed, I only feel a ever so slight difference, where the hyperspeed feels a little more "loose", a little "faster" with it's fast flicks. Compared to the deathadder v3 pro, it feels a little more "slowed down" with it's big flicks, almost like it has a little more control ability so it feels a little more slowed down as you flick it. I own all these mice and have tested them all extensively.

just going to reiterate what others have already said. you seem to be using a palm grip so an ergo is probably the best option. if you have large hands good options are, in no particular order: zowie ec1-dw razer deathadder v3 or v4 pro logitech pro x superlight 2 dex pulsar xlite v3 or v4 (size 3 / large) teevolution terra pro some of those models also come in medium size too if the large variant did feel too big.

Of course I'm sure, pulsar xlite has multiple sizes so depending on the size you prefer.

Only get the es if you want a plug n play mouse like a zowie mouse all the settings configuration are on the mouse.

Xlite v4 mainly because Im maining a zowie ec

Have been using DAV3 for the last 2 years or so, been through a couple because of scroll wheel dying early on them. Just picked up a Pulsar Xlite v4 and am trialing it now, if it lasts at least as long as the DAV3 probably gonna move to maining this, Razer is just asking too much money for what they're putting out anymore.

Yes, the QCK Performance Speed. As for the Pulsar, it’s really up to you. With your hand size, you could go with either of their size options, it just depends on which one you think suits your grip best. I really like the Xlite Large and the Xlite ES/Medium, but I prefer ergo mice.

It feels like Pulsar pumps out a new mouse every week at this point. Their mice are decent overall, but I really wish they would get around to improving their click and build quality. I find it hard to go back to my Xlite ever since I tried out the Outset Ax and EC2-CW.

I have the exact same problem and most mice I've used so far caused me actual pain on my hand/wrist lol So far the x2h mini is the only "safe" mice I own. Ones I tested and can't use: any gpro based shape, Lamzhu Thorn, Pulsar xlite, any ulx based shape (causes less pain compared to the others but still far from comfortable). I'm looking into getting an op1 as it should be even flatter than the x2h at the front, at least when looking screenshots and 2d shape.

I have all or most of the mice mentioned in your post, and similarly have had issues finding a mouse that had a right side that felt normal. The XM2w caused my hand to cramp (even tho I played awesome with it lol) The E1 is the best overall mouse I've ever used imho. The shape is second to none in my opinion. I have the ec2-dw, the pulsar super light size 1 & 2ES) and many other ergos that aren't nearly as comfy. The cons to the E1 are - the buttons have a specific bounce/spring to them, so there is a tiny bit of rattle if you slam your mouse often - the scroll wheel is fine - the side buttons have a bit of a corner to them, (I just sand it down) I'm currently switching between the E1, the Viper V3, the Zowie S2-dw Oh, and the Sora is an awesome mouse with a great shape. It's god a cool internal structure that was fun to mod and get the weight super low. I missed having the curved finger grooves (so I added my own) but overall it's an awesome mouse that I mained for months before I got into ergos. The pulsar super light is awesome, but had specific curves (along the right side and front) where I never felt 100% comfy. I have the v3ES and the v3 size 1, and both were a bit off for me. And I also didn't love the raesha optical switches.... Best scroll wheels tho! The XM2w is certainly the best built mouse of these three. If there was a version that didn't have such an aggressive inward curve along the right side I would likely be maining this mouse. That and I wish it had finger grooves... It's so solid tho... My personal rankings: 1. E1 2. Sora 3. Xlite (does the v4 still use Raesha optical switches??) 4. XM2w (but if you like the shape, its potentially #1)

Viper v3 pro is my current favorite symmetrical shape, but if you were interested in trying ergos I’ve been using a pulsar xlite for a while now and it just melts perfectly into my hand. My current favorite ec2 clone

Pulsar always has issues with gen 1 versions of all of their products. Xlite, X2, X2A, X2H, all had quality control issues. If you like the X3, wait for the X3V2.

I'd say the vaxxee e1 but that still might be a bit too wide. Try the Xlite, QC is a hit and miss maybe you get lucky. Remember the smaller the mice, the better you aim

If you told us the size of your hand it would be easier. But generally for palm something like an Pulsar Xlite would be a good choice because it comes in 3 sizes.

you basically drew an op1 and VAXEE xe/xe-s. consider those or an ergonomic mouse like the vaxee e1, ec2/3-dw, or pulsar xlite. even the VAXEE np-01s might be the best shape for you, based on the issues described. it has more ring and pinky support than any non-ergo mouse I've used and you can easily be agile with it and have a flexible grip, while having more support for the thumb and ring/pinky fingers.

Have similar hands and loved the viper ultimate, just bought a pulsar Xlite. The v2 is $55 right now

I was in the same boat. The viper v2 pro is the successor with the same shape but I saw a ton of people saying the scroll wheel breaks easily. The Zowie FK is the classic for that shape but pretty expensive. I was recommended the pulsar Xlite by a friend and it’s a different shape but made for bigger hands so I decided to try it. I can let you know how I like it 🙂

OP1 8K v2 is about $90 I think. That’s on the smaller side, and it’s well regarded as one of the best (if not categorically the best) mice for FPS. Even best mouse overall, it outperforms just about everything. Do you prefer symmetrical or ergonomic? The Razer Deathadder v3 is often on sale for $50-70, in my opinion it’s no slouch, it’s ergonomic. Much less of a performer as the OP1 but it is pretty decent. It’s large tho. If you’re interested in Pulsar their mini’s on the smaller size and I’ve seen some models (like x2 v2) on Amazon marked down to $70-90. Those will be wireless and are good. Pulsar also has an XLite (ergo) or X2 (wired) for $50, those are awesome choices IMO.

Honestly I'm amazed at how my Pulsar xlite is.. was 50$ and using it years later no issues. It's the perfect mouse for me

I used to do that with my G502 and now I have a 60g xlite and an 80g zowie plugged in, I play better on either of them

ulx small tfue/xlite crazylight/op1 8k + raiden mid

>This guy always doesn't recommend Pulsar mice That's just not true. The [Xlite](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite/7.html) got the Editor's Choice award. The [Xlite Wireless](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-wireless/7.html), [Xlite v2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-wireless-v2/4.html), and [Xlite v2 Mini](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-v2-mini-wireless/7.html) all got the Editor's Choice and Great Value awards (note that these were $80 or less, similar to Scyrox now). The [X2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2/7.html), [X2 Mini](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2-mini/7.html), [X2 v2](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2v2/8.html), [X2H](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-x2h/9.html), and [Xlite v3](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pulsar-xlite-v3/8.html) each received the Highly Recommended award (launch price for these was closer to $100). Only the last four Pulsar mice reviewed by pzogel didn't get any awards; keep in mind that these four all had some level of polling instability with a launch price of $130-180, while cheaper mice like the [DeathAdder V3 HyperSpeed](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/razer-deathadder-v3-hyperspeed/7.html) ($100) had no such issues. It's easy to see why Pulsar no longer stands out enough to warrant a recommendation as they've become pricier and less competitive.