Pulsar Gaming Gears - Xlite v4 Large

Pulsar xLite v4 Large. Bigger than any suggestions so far. Ergo, comfortable and good qc. Might be of interest to you

502 is a big mouse, but maybe you want something where the hump is a little taller and more so in the middle. Ec1-dw or Xlite large v3 or 4, ec1 will be slightly taller and more forward and the xlite is similar but a good amount taller. Keep an eye on that Razer vertical mouse they announced maybe. Eloshapes to help compare

If you like the deathadder shape, you can try out EC1 clones \- Xlite Size 1/Large (if you can spot a v2 on sale or even a v3 it would be great, in my country they usually go on sale for less than $100.) \- DeathAdder v3 Pro (not the v2), doesnt usually go on sale as much as the Xlites. \- Delux M900 (I think you can get this for around $50 ish) \- ATK Z1 (a bit smaller than the DA, around $70-$90 depending on where you buy it) \- Model D 2 Pro Wireless

i was able to buy a v4 with almost the same price of the v3 ( new stock, some guy sell it back to me cause he did not like the shape ), and so far i have no issue yet, it is a great mouse but yeah compair to the v3, not so much of an upgrade

I've been happy with Pulsar. I've been buying Xlites since the first wireless. While I own a pair of V3 Larges, the V4 made no sense to me. It's a V3.1 that isn't justifiable if you already have the V3. (So I never bought a V4) I'm currently running the X3. First thing I noticed was how shitty their skates are. With the Xlites I always had corepads ready to go on day 1. I think their stock skates have gotten thinner. Very easy to scratch a soft cloth mousepad. That lip is awful. On one of my Xlites v3s I did take a Dremel sander to them. Even with corepads it would scratch a specific mousepad I was running. Hoping corepads will solve this for the X3, but they're not out yet. So I ordered some dots in the meantime. I'll just need a lot of them.

Dissapointing, been on this Xlite V3 mini all year and I love it, but V4 offers me very little to think about another Pulsar, X3 maybe being a different shape.... Wish they would just stay on one model, do a small upgrade without calling it V4 and offer new colours at launch. On that note, hope OP doesnt mind, but anyone had any joy on any other small/medium ergos? I always felt EC2 size was a little too big for me, but Xlite mini just a little too small, anything in between? Looked at E1 or Thorn but unsure. Maybe Paro if it comes around again.

I was actually very critical of their terrible v3/v3es release. My thorn left click is starting to die so i gave the v4 a shot and i think its pretty solid. You can go back through my post history on mouse review and see I have talked a ton of crap about their QC. That said I think the v4 is a good cozy mouse for us 20x10 palm folks who want something palm-able but agile. I will say though that your criticism of them in how they handle churning out so many things is absolutely valid.

QC was so chalked on the v3 that they delayed it for what seemed like a whole year. I think the xlite shape is excellent. I'm very happy with the v4 but will not be preordering pulsar things anymore. Due to their PITA RMA process I will only be buying from amazon from now on. (I've bought every iteration of the xlite)

I am currently using the Maya X butI have  the Xlite V4 coming Monday. I’m hoping it can replace the X

The V4 feels like a letdown. I have minor switch grinding on LMB/RMB, Flexing on the sides that actuate the side buttons and rough edges where they glued the plastic base together with the top.

Anything at this stage...but i'm currently maining the xlite V4 and the viper v3 pro

Why the large holes... You had 2 years of public feedback against the Viper Mini SE and decided to use similar holes on an ergo which is likely to use even more palm contact... Also no reviews out before orders are up... This is a hard sell vs. the XLite v4 at $99. The charging dock is cool though, hope they implement that in the v4 eS and the base v5 moving forward. I hope the Kailh opticals here are better than the Raeshas, but I don't support restricting the switches to this $179 model.

Editing in text form of the review... **Text form if you don't care to watch the video:** I was excited to try the Pulsar XLite v4 because I have been using the v3 in Large for about a year now. Other EC alternatives I tried deteriorated in quality, or weren't close enough to the EC/weren't doing anything interesting shapewise for me to try (DAv3 Pro was my main and the scroll wheel exploded) **I was looking forward to**: new clicks, new build, new bottom plate/skate design. Of these things, they made the clicks worse, the build much better, and kept the same trash bottom plate and skates. **Clicks**: The raeshas were a complaint of last gen but they were snappy, kept their snappiness over a year, but were just too light. Furthermore, they slam click, so a low sens player like myself is prone to accidentally shooting/right clicking, which can lose you fights/rounds/games in something like tac fps. The new clicks (Kailh opticals) are heavier, but just awful. Inconsistent feeling on RMB and LMB, mushy, not snappy. These are an L and a genuine downgrade from last gen. The only good thing is that they implemented a slam click filter, which every competitor (Lamzu) can push a firmware update for, but Pulsar needs to release a new $100 "next gen" mouse to do so. Lazy. Also my left click started squeaking literally mid review video. **Build**: My XLite v3 Large creaked in 1 month of use. I don't really care about creaking as it doesn't affect in game performance but it more so shows you the level of attention to detail from the production process of the company. It's fixed from an initial impression with the v4. It was solid and squeezing didn't even force any creakage. Will it stand the test of time? I don't know (spoiler: because I'm returning my copy). Kudos to them here. **Base/Skates**: The base of the Pulsar series is trash. The reason is that it has an outlining plastic ridge around the skates for the skates to line up. Sound familiar? Logitech GPX does the same. How does the GPX sound on soft/xsoft pads? Nails on a chalkboard (see clip in video). Same thing here, good thing I fell in love with mid firmness pads. Using the exact same skates/base that have known issues feels lazy. Likely to prevent new molds/production costs. Should go for bigger skates that most people like as Razer did. **Old 4k Dongle vs. New 8k Dongle**: This is the most frustrating part of this mouse. It isn't compatible with the old 4k dongle and you have to get the new 8k dongle to get access to higher polling rates. I'm personally of the opinion that higher polling rates don't matter unless you need that competitive edge/assurance, but if you're going to market/flaunt 4k and 8k on the box, you better include that dongle in the box. Furthermore, how are we 1 generation of sensor tech from the 4k dongle and it isn't compatible? Razer's Hyperpolling dongle is literally compatible across 3 generations of sensors (DAv3 HyperSpeed 26k, DAv3 Pro 30k, Viper V3 Pro 35k). I don't give a shit if there is a real technical reason as to why the old 4k dongle can't pair to the new 3950 mice, in that case it's bad design and if there is no real technical reason then this is forced obsolescence. **edit per /u/pzogel comment below, this is due to making a new in house firmware vs an older compx solution. So a technical reason exists, however, it is quite a pain to the customer. He makes much more technical reviews than I do, so check his posts/reviews if you haven't before** **Conclusion**: Pulsar spend money sponsoring VCT Pacific and certain teams (ironically, most of these players will not be seen with Pulsar mice on stage) instead of bring their mice up to par with competitors. I'm always weary of products/brands that overspend on marketing (think Honey), so I make sure to really see if their product development matches their marketing. In the case of Pulsar, it doesn't. Their previous v3 model suffered from slam clicks, and they never pushed a firmware update whereas Lamzu did so immediately. They are forcing 3950 mice users to buy new high polling rate dongles instead of updating the old one to pair to new mice (see edit above). What's even worse is that during the making of this video, [Pulsar is now teasing their own proprietary switch with just the caption 2025 on Twitter, when I was literally mocking them in the video that they would release a v5 next year with fixed clicks for another $100.](https://x.com/PulsarGears/status/1873671656809664652) It's clear to see that Pulsar give f\* all about the quality of their releases and just want to push a new $100 product to you. I know many are hype for the X3 and will be ordering it, but for those that are a fan of their other mice, I urge you to find alternative brands that actually care about the consumer.

That's great, and I can admit they can make serviceable mice (I'm still using the XLite v3). However, something really needs to be said with their lack of support and seemingly obvious release cycles. No slam click update, no 4k dongle support for new mice, downgrade in the clicks, already teasing the 2025 model, spending more on marketing than firmware updates.

Yeah it feels like the v4 has strangely gone under the radar while being out for a while too

I can recommend the Large v3 on Sale for 70 right now, it's a great deal and Pulsar mice can be solid in a vacuum, it's more so their release strategies and attention to detail that upsets me.

My v3 charges from a phone charger, should be fine

Yep, was thinking about ordering a v3, opened their Amazon store to find there’s now a v4 and like 4 other variants out of their ambi mice in like the 6 months since I was last going to buy a v3, on top of that I’ve had QC problems with them before and seeing them just pump out more mice means none of them are going to be as good as what they should be

I too am a v4 size to user. I agree with some of what you have said but disagree with others views you have made. Compatibility with the 4K I agree it’s a Micky take. And again there is is no significant difference between the v3 and v4. The software also could have been to make with the v4. But to me I have noticed click differences for the better. The scroll wheel to me is slightly higher compared to the v3. Skates couldn’t agree with you more. They go immediately. But I guess as others have said it’s down to personal preference 4K v 8k polling I don’t game and to be fair can’t see a difference, the feel is the same. If it where me the v4 could have been much more it was released to early. They should have done more but didn’t…..

Appreciate it. I was trying to find some information on the new click implementation but couldn’t find any. Very disappointing because I really like the x2 and xlite shapes.

I have all or most of the mice mentioned in your post, and similarly have had issues finding a mouse that had a right side that felt normal. The XM2w caused my hand to cramp (even tho I played awesome with it lol) The E1 is the best overall mouse I've ever used imho. The shape is second to none in my opinion. I have the ec2-dw, the pulsar super light size 1 & 2ES) and many other ergos that aren't nearly as comfy. The cons to the E1 are - the buttons have a specific bounce/spring to them, so there is a tiny bit of rattle if you slam your mouse often - the scroll wheel is fine - the side buttons have a bit of a corner to them, (I just sand it down) I'm currently switching between the E1, the Viper V3, the Zowie S2-dw Oh, and the Sora is an awesome mouse with a great shape. It's god a cool internal structure that was fun to mod and get the weight super low. I missed having the curved finger grooves (so I added my own) but overall it's an awesome mouse that I mained for months before I got into ergos. The pulsar super light is awesome, but had specific curves (along the right side and front) where I never felt 100% comfy. I have the v3ES and the v3 size 1, and both were a bit off for me. And I also didn't love the raesha optical switches.... Best scroll wheels tho! The XM2w is certainly the best built mouse of these three. If there was a version that didn't have such an aggressive inward curve along the right side I would likely be maining this mouse. That and I wish it had finger grooves... It's so solid tho... My personal rankings: 1. E1 2. Sora 3. Xlite (does the v4 still use Raesha optical switches??) 4. XM2w (but if you like the shape, its potentially #1)

If you told us the size of your hand it would be easier. But generally for palm something like an Pulsar Xlite would be a good choice because it comes in 3 sizes.

Honestly I'm amazed at how my Pulsar xlite is.. was 50$ and using it years later no issues. It's the perfect mouse for me

Check out Pulsar Xlite series, excellent performance, good ergonomic shape, under 60g, Comes in 3 different sizes.