
Logitech G
G600 MMO Gaming Mouse
Customizable MMO workhorse, durable, but discontinued and pricey.

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I have the Deathadder v2 Pro, Deathadder v3 Pro, Cobra Pro, Cobra Hyperspeed, and Viper v2 Pro. (And the Kysona Jupiter Ultra as my Viper v3 Pro clone) AMA
I am rather impressed with what you get with the Jupiter Ultra. The shape is slightly tweaked vs the Viper v3, with a slightly more flared backside, which allows my pinky to lock in better. The Omron opticals have a good feel to them and quieter than the Raesha opticals Razer uses, wheel is on par with other mice I've used, and side buttons are snappy. Comes with 8K dongle, and in Metallic Red like the Sentinel, all for $60. I find the height on it to be better for palming, tho I still enjoy the OG Viper lower hump. When I want to fingertip, Viper v2 Pro or Cobra Hyperspeed. I use the DPI button as Ability 4 in Diablo IV, which the Vv2P lacks. Also checking out the optical encoder for the wheel. I use the Cobra H with a Mouse Dock Pro at 2K. The DAv3P is for when my hand is being a tard (I have a neuralmuscular disorder) and my hand feels more comfortable with the ergo shape. I use this with a Hyperpoll Dongle at 2K. I wrist aim on hard mats, both glass (Atlas) and polycarbonate (Firefly v2 Pro)
Currently rocking a Cobra Hyperspeed, and recommend. 1. Focus X 26K sensor, aka Pixart 3395, using 1200 dpi on a 4K screen 2. Gen 4 Optical switches 3. Optical scroll wheel encoder 4. Cobra uses the Viper Mini body 5. 59g, option for Qi puck for wireless charging, can be paired with Mouse Dock Pro or Hyperpolling Dongle fo up to 8K polling. 6. Side buttons are very snappy. No mush here. 7. Button under wheel can have 2 settings, one for short press, and one for long press. I slapped a set of precut Supergrips on it to improve comfort and grip. (love poron) Mine is paired to a Mouse Dock Pro, with 2K polling and I dock for charging. Using a Firefly v2 Pro pad, because I have come to love the textured polycarbonate surface over glass. (No scratchy sounds, and glide is a tad faster) I wrist aim so I don't need a huge pad.
Razer Cobra Hyperspeed, has latest gen4 opticals, and optical wheel encoder, classic Viper Mini hourglass shape. I have long hands and I still use it. I added Supergrips precut grips.
Before switching from the Viper Mini to the wired Cobra, I had some preconceptions based on what people were saying on this sub but honestly I didn’t notice much of a difference, if any at all. I recently moved to the Cobra Hyperspeed to finally get rid of the cable, accepting a few trade-offs (like the puck/dock hole and a 26K sensor instead of 30K). It’s exactly the same dimensions as the wired Cobra, just +4g heavier which is still within a reasonable lightweight range (50–60g is my ideal sweet spot). Again, I noticed no difference at all and I’ve had no issues with the skates on my side. Besides that, it’s such a pleasure to finally be wireless with a lightweight mouse clone of the OG RVM. Now, if in the future they finally release what we’ve all been asking for like an RVM SE with the latest top-tier sensor, no holes, and a fair price without treating us like cash cows I’ll switch to it instantly. Until then, this mouse will do its job very well.
I ended up returning mine due to the rear-end tilt / back heavy weight distribution. It's a shame because I absolutely adore the standard Cobra and Viper Mini. Was looking forward to this big time.
My hand size is around **18 cm length** and about **9.6 cm width including thumb**. I know width is usually measured excluding thumb, so my “mouse review” width is probably closer to **8.5–9 cm**. My main use is **productivity**, not competitive FPS. I do some general use/gaming, but comfort and button feel matter more than pure performance. I use the mouse for **8+ hours per day**, so long-session comfort is important. Mice I’ve used/tried: **Logitech G203 (Current favourite)** I like the size and the main button feel. The clicks feel more premium to me than the G Pro X Superlight. I also like having the extra top/middle button. The shape seems to fill my hand well. However, my G203s tend to start double-clicking, and I’m currently on my **3rd G203**, so I’d like something more reliable. Blowing air into it works for a while, but having to do that often is annoying. **Logitech G Pro X Superlight** I like the glide and it does **not** give me wrist pain. However, the size feels slightly on the big side, and the side buttons feel cheap/mushy to me. It has also started double-clicking, so I’m not too keen on buying another Logitech right now. **Razer Cobra HyperSpeed** I bought this because it seemed close to the G203 size, and I really like the button/click feel. However, after using it at home for around 1–2 hours, it feels too small/slim and makes me overgrip. I get wrist pain almost immediately / within an hour, so I’m probably returning or exchanging it. **Razer Viper V4 Pro** I tried it briefly in store. The clicks felt decent, but not as good as the Cobra. I’m considering it because it is larger and very light, and the GPX does not cause wrist pain for me, even though it feels a bit big. I’m currently considering: * **Razer Viper V4 Pro** * **Razer DeathAdder V3 HyperSpeed** * Possibly something non-Razer if it fits better What I’m looking for: * Comfortable for productivity / long sessions, around **8+ hours per day** * No wrist pain or overgripping * Better click/side-button feel than GPX if possible * Not as small/slim-feeling as the Cobra HyperSpeed * Good glide * Wired or wireless is fine * Preferably around **80 g or lower** * I would rather avoid heavier **100 g+** mice * Better reliability than the Logitech mice I’ve had, especially avoiding double-click issues Does it make sense to exchange the Cobra for a **Viper V4 Pro**, or would the **DeathAdder V3 HyperSpeed** or another shape make more sense given the wrist pain/overgrip issue?
The rubber wears off after a while. I went for the Cobra hyperspeed ( no rubber grips )
I have the wireless version, the Cobra HyperSpeed. It’s my favourite mouse of all time. It has the most comfortable and most agile shape of any mouse I’ve ever used, but that will depend on your hand size and grip style. If I had to buy a wired mouse, it would most definitely be the Cobra.
Let me give you a breakdown of all three, and then which one I prefer at the end: Asus ROG Harpe Ace Mini - While still a small claw-grip mouse, it feels a little fuller in the palm compared to the other two. It’s very light and has a very high-quality, premium coating on the plastic. The software suite is the most advanced of the three; you can adjust angle rotations and surface calibrations and all that. It’s the most premium of the three mentioned mice and has the highest quality control of some products I’ve ever used. Corsair Sabre V2 Pro - The lightest of the bunch and slightly slimmer/lower profile vs the ROG. It feels amazing in the hand. The software suite is a little less advanced than the ROG, and the default settings have an 8ms click latency on this mouse, but with beta software you can reduce this, if that’s a big deal to you. I currently main this mouse as my main mouse for gaming, **because I bought this before the Asus ROG, and since I already had this, I returned the Asus as it was redundant.** Razer Cobra HyperSpeed - The sleekest-feeling of the three, but also the heaviest. The sensor tech is a bit older and dated compared to the other two, but unless you’re a super freak pro e-sports player, you won’t notice a difference. In my opinion this mouse \*feels\* the best; it melts into my hand like no other mouse ever has, but it is almost double the weight of the Corsair. It’s noticeable. My daily driver is the Corsair, but my favourite is the Razer. The Razer was my first true gaming mouse, so I’m just naturally biased towards it and have a sweet spot on it. If I had to recommend one for you, it would be the **Asus ROG Harpe Ace Mini.** It’s the most advanced, has the most comfortable shape, and has the most feature-full software suite. If I had to pick a new mouse to start with all over again, it would be this one. The **only** reason it’s not my main is because I already had two other mice beforehand that I couldn’t return. Cheers.
I have the same size hands and the same grip as you. I’ve tried many, many mice; you could see my post history for some of my posts. I felt the exact same way about the GPX 2 in that it felt too big, so I looked for alternatives. My top 3 favourite mice for my hand size and claw grip: Corsair Sabre v2 Pro; Razer Cobra HyperSpeed; and the Asus ROG Harpe Ace Mini. All three of these mice are modern, compact, and made for smaller, claw-gripping hands like you and me. They feature high-tech sensors and I’ve had zero issues with them. Their shapes are similar and I love each of them, and the one you pick just depends on shape and weight preference. Another user mentioned the Mchose L7 Pro; I will say I have also used this mouse and absolutely hated it. It’s weirdly small, but small in a way that just doesn’t feel good. The front of the mouse tapers down too much and it makes it awkward to hold, and it’s a bit too narrow to get a good grip on it. Look into the three mice I mentioned above. Since we have the same size hands and grip, you might feel the same way about them. Let me know if you have any questions. For reference, here are all the mouse I’ve bought and tried, so you know where I stand: Logitech SuperStrike Logitech Superlight 2 Razer Viper V4 Pro Zowie U2-DW Sony Inzone Mouse-A Endgame OP1w 4K v2 Mchose L7 Pro Razer Cobra HyperSpeed Corsair Sabre V2 Pro Asus ROG Harpe Ace Mini
Let me give you a breakdown of all three, and then which one I prefer at the end: Asus ROG Harpe Ace Mini - While still a small claw-grip mouse, it feels a little fuller in the palm compared to the other two. It’s very light and has a very high-quality, premium coating on the plastic. The software suite is the most advanced of the three; you can adjust angle rotations and surface calibrations and all that. It’s the most premium of the three mentioned mice and has the highest quality control of some products I’ve ever used. Corsair Sabre V2 Pro - The lightest of the bunch and slightly slimmer/lower profile vs the ROG. It feels amazing in the hand. The software suite is a little less advanced than the ROG, and the default settings have an 8ms click latency on this mouse, but with beta software you can reduce this, if that’s a big deal to you. I currently main this mouse as my main mouse for gaming, because I bought this before the Asus ROG, and since I already had this, I returned the Asus as it was redundant. Razer Cobra HyperSpeed - The sleekest-feeling of the three, but also the heaviest. The sensor tech is a bit older and dated compared to the other two, but unless you’re a super freak pro e-sports player, you won’t notice a difference. In my opinion this mouse \*feels\* the best; it melts into my hand like no other mouse ever has, but it is almost double the weight of the Corsair. It’s noticeable. My daily driver is the Corsair, but my favourite is the Razer. The Razer was my first true gaming mouse, so I’m just naturally biased towards it and have a sweet spot on it. I use the Corsair as my competitive gaming mouse for Valorant and CS, and the Razer for my casual gaming for Diablo 4 and Palworld and stuff. If I had to recommend one for you, it would be the Asus ROG Harpe Ace Mini. It’s the most advanced, has the most comfortable shape, and has the most feature-full software suite. If I had to pick a new mouse to start with all over again, it would be this one. The only reason it’s not my main is because I already had two other mice beforehand that I couldn’t return. Cheers.

Logitech G
G600 MMO Gaming Mouse
Customizable MMO workhorse, durable, but discontinued and pricey.

VXE
R1 Series
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Hyperlight
Ultra-light (39g) for small hands; sensor is outdated.

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Adaptable shape, optical clicks, but scroll wheel malfunctions.

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