DeathAdder Essential

A cheap bluetooth mouse will do 80%-90% of what you’ll get out of a gamer mouse imo. Getting a pro gamer mouse will feel better but it won’t make you better per se. My mouse of choice is the Razer deathadder. I’m using the essential version and it does good. I like deathadder because it’s big and comfortable and got two extra buttons I use to deploy equipment. Pro tip: lower the sensitivity so you have to move your arm a lot and you’ll be way more accurate!

I use Deathadder essential and it's really good

Has been a very reliable mouse for me. Would reccomend.

my problem with razer mice has been the wheel

I am looking for a gaming mouse with any price interval. it can be either cheap or expensive, doesn't really matter as long as the performance is there and it has a 8k polling rate and performs well for its price. I play mostly CS. Any suggestions?

8k polling rate is a necessary aspect for me. pricetag does not matter for me. But what is the difference between viper v4 pro and deathadder v4 pro? is it the size that is the only difference?

I currently have deathadder essential and had ultimate until the mouse click stopped working after a few years. I feel like my hand fits it well in palm grip. But I have heard so much about viper v4 pro, that I genuinely what to test it to see if it fits my hand. I think I will get the viper v4 pro

I use deathadder essential (my gf bought it as a present, and I couldn't say that the mouse is mediocre to her). And I was not really into what mouse I was using until I got into fps again. I have heard great things about viper v4 pro, but I like "fatter" mouse forms because of my hand

I palm grip my mouse. I have a deathadder essential currently. And have used the logitech g pro x superlight 2, but stopped using ir because my scrollwheel was tweaking and I couldnt use it. I do not remember the feeling on the logitech, but I have always held palmgrip with the mice I use.

Are you fr right now? There are tests and evidence that it is in fact not placebo. It lowers report intervals from 1 ms at 1000 Hz to 0.125 ms, which can improve motion consistency on high-FPS/high-refresh setups. CS2 can receive high-rate mouse input. And the sweet spot is 4khz. There is a reason why all of the pros in CS are moving to 4khz with 8k polling rate in the mouse.  https://prosettings.net/reviews/razer-viper-8khz/?utm_source=

So we are willfully ignorant on purpose?  Pros who use 4k-8khz polling rate in cs2: Tauson, siuhy, NAF, ultimate, malbsMd, Frozen, kscerato, misutaaa, stanislaw, Vacancy, innocent, JL, FL1T, broky, Maka, isak, Senzu, aragornN, Extinct, arTisT, bevve, and sh3nanigan. And pros are starting to move to highe polling rates. Niko went from 1k to 2k and eventually most pros will go for 4k becayse of the recent studies.  And your claim that cs2 does not support the polling rates are factually incorrect, where do you get your sources from? It is common knowledge that cs2 supports 4k/8k Hz but 8k is unstable compared to 4k Hz. The videos you must've seen are 100% 3-2 years ago. https://epub.uni-regensburg.de/55003/1/schmid_halbhuber_latency_variation_2023.pdf

You cannot be a real person... Does valve need to market that they support it for you to believe it? You're confusing **“Valve didn’t make a marketing announcement”** with **“CS2 cannot process high polling rates.”** That’s not the same thing... CS2 is detected as using the **SDL SDK**, which is a low-level input/library layer, and there is a CS2-specific SDL issue where a user reported a **Razer Viper 8KHz** making **CS2** laggy on Windows specifically because of high-polling raw input handling. The issue says the mouse was a Viper 8KHz and that CS2 became laggy when moving the mouse. The proposed fix was using `GetRawInputBuffer` instead of processing raw input one event at a time. Then SDL actually merged that fix. The merged PR is titled **“Use GetRawInputBuffer() instead processing raw input one at a time”**, and the SDL maintainer explicitly wrote: **“This is a huge performance improvement for high polling rate mice, like the Razer Viper 8K mouse.”** [**https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/pull/8770**](https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/pull/8770) “CS2 doesn’t support 4K/8KHz at all” is not accurate in one bit. If CS2 were hard-capped at 1000Hz or ignored everything above 1000Hz, there would be no CS2-specific high-polling-rate input issue and no need for an SDL raw-input-buffer fix. If your claim was "CS2 can receive/run with high polling rates, but 8KHz is not guaranteed to feel better for everyone and can be limited by FPS, frame pacing, CPU load, mouse implementation, and system stability." Then I would agree, but you seem to be ignorant and not do your research and spew things out of your mouth without thinking twice, unfortunate. Also, the latency math is factually correct. Razer states that 8000Hz reports up to 8× more data per second than 1000Hz and reduces the report interval from **1 ms to 0.125 ms**. That does not mean “instant aimbot,” but it does mean the hardware difference is measurable and can be to an advantage. Here are the sources. CS2 had a documented SDL issue with a Razer Viper 8KHz causing lag when moving the mouse. SDL then merged a `GetRawInputBuffer` fix and the maintainer explicitly called it a huge performance improvement for high-polling-rate mice like the Razer Viper 8K. Microsoft’s docs explain why buffered raw input matters for high-frequency mice, and Valve’s own CS2 notes show CS2 uses SDL. Next time, do your research: [https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/issues/8756](https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/issues/8756) [https://github.com/ValveSoftware/csgo-osx-linux/issues/2906](https://github.com/ValveSoftware/csgo-osx-linux/issues/2906)