Razer - DeathAdder V3 HyperSpeed

I have said this many times on here before and still believe it to be true.... If you go strictly based on SW, I would pick Logitech Dex or SL 2. Why? It's the only SW I've found (and I think I've used them all) that can properly do an Aim Down Sight right click macro toggle. There are games like Cyberpunk that do not have Aim Down Sight as a toggle. And I hate holding the button to aim. Every other software does not allow me to create a macro to do this, including Synapse. Aside from that, I am not a fan of GHub. It's gotten better but it's still bloated. I think Synapse has made some headway with the Viper V3 Pro and DAV 3 HS where you can adjust sensor positions (not physically obv but you tell the SW that you are holding the mice at an angle). They also have ability to set 4k in game and default to 1k on desktop. It's little QOL features like that I enjoy especially if you make me install an app. I'd rather have just basic web app support though like the new Maya X and the Finalmouse blue one that came out a few months ago (forget the name).

I really appreciate the risks Razer takes when it comes to creating new products and listening to the community. The v3 was too long for me, so this one is a safe buy. Personally I'd like to see the width left untouched but if everyone's preferences were taken into account this kind of product would never come out.

Thanks. I should have mentioned I have the DAV3 Hyperspeed, as amazing as it is, the flare out drives me insane, just cant get comfy wtih a right side flare out, I was the same on the Viper shape.

I have it. It's one of my favorite ERGO mice i have. I'd definitely recommend it!

Hello my mouse lovers and enthusiasts! Today's question/discussion is pretty simple, but important. What is your favorite mouse of all time in terms of shape. Now, this could be a mouse that you haven't used in a long time because it's outdated or it could be your current main mouse. I'm asking because I'm curious how many people prefer small or large mice. I know mice like the SUPERLIGHT have a super safe shape which is why it's so popular. There's also mice like the G703, where a lot of people LOVE the shape but don't it isn't used a lot because of how outdated it is. My favorite ambidextrous shape RIGHT NOW has to be the LA-1. Even though I've only owned this mouse for a little under a month, the shape is just perfect for my hand and grip style. I know the mouse itself isn't popular, but it's my favorite right now i terms of shape. The Razer Viper V3 Pro is a VERY close 2nd. My favorite ergonomic mouse shape is easily the Razer Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed. Although I don't use ERGO mice, the Deathadder v3 hyperspeed is just super comfortable. I only use ergonomic mice for casual games typically. Thanks for reading and have a great rest of your day! (Side note: I ordered two new mice. The Waizowl OGM Cloud V2 and the Pulsar X3 Mini. Can't wait to get my hands on them.)

I love the Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed shape so much. Easily my favorite ERGO mouse.

The hump and overall size of the mouse is identical. The reason it's smaller is how long the left and right main buttons are. The m65's clicks are a little longer. Where do your fingertips rest now? If they're around your scroll wheel, you may not even notice. Try orienting thr mouse from the back on eloshapes. And if you're just looking for a nice ergo mouse that can play games, I would consider the deathadder v3 series of products (v3 specifically! Often referred to as "Dav3," pronounced as "Dave." English wordplay). They are broadly available and can be found at reasonable prices. I think the Dav3 hyperspeed might be up your alley

I was not even paying attention to this mouse. I saw hyperspeed and just wrote this off as it just being a cheaper dav3 with a AA battery slot like the other hyperspeeds. Glad I took a closer look today. A smaller deathadder is exactly what I was wanting. And a rechargeable battery! Only 100 bucks, still expensive but pretty cheap given it's competition with other big name companies. Bought one on Amazon

Still one of my favorite mice. I aim very well with it. Sometimes it can feel a little too small but still one of my favorites

Mine shows 95% battery and refuses to work without a cable. I've had it for 5 months.

I randomly got the dav3 hyper speed on sale and it feels weirdly way better than the dav3 pro. The coating and size being smaller are both really good positives. The clocks are better than the pro. Only downside is 1k.

>The reason why I stuck with this mouse is because it had no side buttons for me to worry about accidentally pressing, and also just in case if the game's anti cheat detected pressing them as cheating.  most paranoid thing I have ever heard. it's actually harder to find (good) mice without side buttons on the market. not attacking you, i just think it's funny as it's basically a non-issue and always has been. 99% of games don't bind sidebuttons to anything, for fear of the end user not having them (I only know of one title that has it hard coded for weapon swapping), and i doubt any anti-cheat flags sidebutton/combination presses as cheating lol. higher polling rates (the 4000 to 8000 range) are only noticed, much less appreciated, with a high performing PC (good CPU, as high polling rates utilise the CPU a lot). you'd also need a high refresh rate monitor and generally a low latency set up overall. the lag caused by high polling rates due to the toll it takes on the CPU far outweighs any benefit it might have. but sure, seeing what higher polling rates can do may be interesting, though most people just stick with a standard 1000. I personally own the VV3 Pro, and have tried out the DAV3 HS previously. they weight around the same, but are different shapes and slightly different sizes [according to eloshapes](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=razer-viper-v3-pro-vs.-razer-deathadder-v3-hyperspeed) but to someone with bigger hands on this sub (20x9 hands, light/relaxed claw grip) the difference was night and day. my fingers went over the clicks on the DAV3, but that only happens occassionally with my right finger on the Viper (and i can correct for it w/o being uncomfortable - my conclusion is that's it's def not a palm grip mouse unless you have smaller hands). as for the OP1, depends what variant, wired, wireless, polling rate? the OP18K (with mouse bungee) is one of the top reccomended mice on this sub.

I disagree, it feels smaller than the hyper speed

Oooh this is interesting. I was waiting to see if there is a refresh to the v3 pro, but I might just grab this and call it. I wonder how well its received by reviewers. Edit: Its up on amazon, ended up buying one lol

yup saw that and bought it right after on amazon. ill be able to try it tomorrow morning

I picked this up at Best Buy today and it is perfect. Clicks are great, absolutely zero flex, and the coating is outstanding. Literally all I ever wanted Razer to do was to make a smaller DAV3 Pro. This was $50 out the door with some Best Buy reward bucks. Absolute steal.

I have been lucky so far. No wobble.

I just picked up the dav3 hyperspeed the other day and have side wobble on my right mb and it makes a popping/clicking noise and it feels terrible. Everything else feels good, maybe just a bad copy I got.

If you want a budget then go for - Zaopin Z2 Incott GHERO VXE R1 Pro If you want under 100 then go for - Lamzu Maya/Lamzu Atlantis Mini 4K Razer Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed

I've just got an Attack shark X11, it stutters when I simultaneously click Mouse 1 and 2 buttons in BF2042. I'm going to return it and get a Razer DeathAdder V3 HyperSpeed, I'm done with trying cheap ass mouses and being let down.

I have acquired a Razer Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed. I am impressed by the quality of the materials used and the low latency, which I believe makes it the best mouse I have ever used. I have previously used the MSI Clutch GM11, Logitech G305 and Attack Shark X11 models.

Mouse - Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed  Bought it three weeks ago, after trying many mouses I decided that EC2 style shape is still my favorite. Wanted something less bulky and here is DAv3HS Pad - ATK Sky xSoft Got it together with mouse. I feel the combo is too fast for what I like so I will look more for controled pad - 99g  Keyboard - Dark Project KD98A Bought it on sale for about 40% usual price. For full price its probably not worth and its better to pay a bit extra and go for Wooting or other with Rapid Trigger but for price I bought its great full keyboard. Headphones - Hyperx Cloud III Popular among CS players. Just solid. Not much to say Monitor - AOC 24G2ZU Cheap 240hz. Enough for me. Main Game - CS2

Thats great insight thanks, I read that a lot of reviewers seem to like the DAV3 Hyper a lot and do consider it as a "pro" level quality. Whereas they see the Viper V3 hyper as a tier below... as you say points knocked off for using a battery. I thought battery would be better as it lasts longer but I have no where to test these out of feel them. Guess I'll just swing for the DAV3 Hyper! I just saw a there is a Razer Cobra Pro? with rgb, is that model line worth looking into or skip? Thanks in advance

used to main a thorn for about a year until switching to the dav3 hyperspeed. Haven't tried the dex yet but I'm more of a mini ergo guy

Nah liking heavier mice is not an unpopular opinion, it's just not as many people wanting to go for heavier mice now which shows in the consumer mouse market. It's the same for monitors where it used to be CRT monitor which phased into TN panels which then phased into IPS panels for preference and now OLEDs. I started with the 229g G602 about 10 years ago to end up with mice under 60g like Pulsar X2v2, Deathadder v3H, and Viper v3 Pro.

Once the sales on the Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed start it'll be one of the best ergo options. Otherwise currently for Ergo id go with the Pulsar V3 and for Ambi I'd say the Lamzu Maya

It's pretty good, just make sure you get the one with the 8k dongle and the updated coating

One of my favorite ergos as well next to the dav3 hyperspeed, the right side feels very comfortable and has a lot of room for me to place my fingers. I’ve used the dav3 pro, Lamzu thorn and Xlite v3 but none give me the same performance as this.

At that price range DeathAdder V3 Hyperspeed bwst option to buy. Relatively high battery life, low latency and decent build quality. Onw disadvantage is if you have big hand, would be unsatisfied.

The two mice are honestly super similar. In daily use you will not be able to tell a difference and so it just comes down to if you want certain features like rotation tool or dynamic sensitivity and if you like the shape. Technically on paper the DAV3 Pro has the better sensor (PAW3950) a bit worse battery life and is a marginally bigger. Based on the implementation through the DAV3 Hyperspeed appears to have lower latency and a better tuned older sensor (PAW3395/3399) but its such a minor difference you wont be able to tell. Personally I went with the HyperSpeed since it was cheaper and I actually used rotation tool and dynamic sensitivity so I could spend a bit extra on the Hyperpolling Dongle.

The Viper V3 Hyper and DAV3 Hyper aren't really the same family of mice anymore. The DAV3 Hyper honestly is a DAV3 Pro Mini as they have forgone the replaceable AA that was the trademark of the hyperspeed line and the wireless only connectivity. I personally preferred the ergonomics of the DAV3 H more. The weight was better controlled and it glides nicely. I actually owned the Viper 3 Hyper for a short time a year ago and wasn't very pleased in my 1-2 weeks with it. The weight was all in the rear and you could honestly feel it. The hyper speed dongle honestly isn't worth if for most folks. Drains your battery faster for a slight bit of smoothness at the very limits of play. Since I do mostly productivity I just leave it on 1000hz polling.

For me, Lamzu Thorn's and Dav3 Hyperspeed's shapes are the bests.

so going off your budget in terms of wireless mice for FPS the [Viper V2 Pro](https://a.co/d/0KkX3Ng) is $79.99 and was pretty good for FPS games If he doesn’t care about wire and just wants a good mouse then the [Deathadder V3 wired](https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/Razer-DeathAdder-V3/RZ01-04640100-R3U1) is like the best mouse for that and is like one of the top recommended ones on here if you don’t mind spending a bit more the [Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed](https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/Razer-DeathAdder-V3-HyperSpeed/RZ01-05140100-R3U1) is incredibly lightweight, a bit smaller and wireless. price v performance it’s the best bang for the buck for what you pay hope this helped!

Razer Deathadder v3 hyperspeed is small, sleek, lightweight and all performance. no RGB. Others I’d recommend as others mentioned is Ninjutso Sora V2, Hitscan Hyperlight and Endgame OP1

Deathadder v3 hyperspeed Is smaller and has a 3995 sensor, while the Pro Is bigger and has a 3950, the viper v3 pro has a totally different shape and use a 3970. They all are very good mouse, viper v3 pro Is the best, you can compare the shapes on eloshapes.com

Razer did a terribile job with names, hyperspeed Is the cheaper version, the viper v3 hyperspeed Is a good mouse that shares the same internals of the viper v2 pro and deathadder v3 pro, but use a battery 🔋 (i don't know the name in english, like the batteries you have in your remote for the TV) instead of an integrated battery that you can recharge, that makes the mouse weigh a lot more (over 70gr for the viper v3 hyperspeed). The deathadder v3 hyperspeed on the other hand has a normal integrated battery like other mices and weights under 60gr. The flagship lane for Razer Is the "pro".

DAV3 Hyperspeed is about as solid of a mouse $100 can get you. New ATK mice could be good too.

DAV3 Pro is better but I'd actually recommend the DAV3 Hyperspeed.

If you like the dav2 then upgrade to dav3 or wait for dav4, dav3 hyperspeed is a smaller version of the dav3 pro, viper V3 hyperspeed is an ambidextrous mouse similar shape to the lamzu Maya x

You're welcome, idk when it's coming out but it's razer they will announce it in this subreddit once it's ready, jks and Niko is using the dav4. You can always try the dav3 hyperspeed

Deathadder V3 is good XM2 8k you can claw and palm this mouse

Deathadder V3 has light clicks but the shape is slightly different compared to the deathadder elite

If he likes the g703 then consider the teevolution terra or for a different ergo shape I recommend the deathadder V3

V3 or the v3 hyperspeed maybe you can try the vaxee E1 or the goat ec2-cw

Deathadder V3 hyperspeed is just a small version of the dav3 and dav3 pro Basilisk v3 is bad many buttons and heavy you don't need those for fps games. Viper v3 pro and dav3 or dav3 pro is my pick here

Deathadder V3

Viper V3 pro, Dav hyperspeed v3 and really like viper mini (still waiting for a pro version 😭)

Slightly larger feeling in hand compared to the hyperspeed. Which is great bc the dav3 was too big for me and the hyperspeed was too small. They’re also different shapes, which contributes to hand feeling more than size IMO

If you like ergo, try deathadder v3 hyperspeed. Amazing quality and shape/size

I never understood why people don't do this and instead, cry about the software. For years I have just set the mouse up once and then uninstalled. 

Budget is $100. Want a well-known brand (probably Razer or Logitech). Has to be color black and not bland. Comfortable. Wireless. Buy in-store. I'd recommend Deathadder v3 Hyperspeed.

I’d say the new deathadder v3 hyperspeed is the best around that price.

I just bought the DeathAdder V3 Hyperspeed today and well, it's amazing but it has one major flaw that I had to address, the stock skates are crap. Too much friction and not even smooth flat applied by default. Removed them and installed Ghost Glide dots and now it guides so effortlessly on my fabric mouse surface. It's also so light. I need to do a fresh post on it too really with pics/GIFs.

Just got the mouse from Best Buy and my first impressions are great. I’ve rocked the DAV3 pro and faker since release and this is infinitely more sturdy and solidly built. It’s hard as a rock and the pros always had so much flex or soft spots on the sides. Weight reduction is noticeable but nothing too crazy it’s the shape change that’s huge. I have 20x10 hands so the pro never felt too big for me but the smaller shape just allows me to grip more comfortably personally. Scroll wheels feels so much more tighter and responsive but could be because it’s new. Clicks feel more crispy but not too heavy also. I’m going to be stashing away the pro versions officially now.

For me the best way to describe it is that it’s essentially the exact same mouse but just slightly smaller. The original DAV3 hump fills out the hand much more forcing a more palm style grip while the hyper speed allows me to cup it more inside my hand and that’s my preference when playing FPS games. Also because of how tightly built it feels I’m able to squeeze it when pulling down reticles in games and not feel as unstable as the pro since they creak a ton.

Just got the mouse from Best Buy and my first impressions are great. I’ve rocked the DAV3 pro and faker since release and this is infinitely more sturdy and solidly built. It’s hard as a rock and the pros always had so much flex or soft spots on the sides. Weight reduction is noticeable but nothing too crazy it’s the shape change that’s huge. I have 20x10 hands so the pro never felt too big for me but the smaller shape just allows me to grip more comfortably personally. Scroll wheels feels so much more tighter and responsive but could be because it’s new. Clicks feel more crispy but not too heavy also. I’m going to be stashing away the pro versions officially now.

My favourites of the Deathadder line right now are the Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed (smaller in hand and very maneuverable) or the Deathadder V3 Wired (insane value and very stable in hand)

Deathadder V3 hyper speed. Great shape/size for me (18x10.5cm hands) and perfect qc on my copy unlike the regular DAV3 that I had. Favorite affordable mouse, Zaopin Z2. Comfy and safe shape with hotswappable switches but the included TTC golds 60's are great, 2 sets of extra skates one with holes to access the screws and it comes with a 4khz dongle. QC is perfect on my copy.

Palm grip? A superlight 2, ATK A9 Pro or Ultra (superlight clone), or a deathadder v3 hyperspeed

Great mouse and review! I had the keris 2 and the dav3 h, imo the keris 2 is way better than dav3 h for me.. the shape on the keris 2 is better designed, I can do better micro adjusments and it works extremely good on glass pads. Btw, between these 3 mices which one you think is more similar to the upcoming wlmouse sword X?

I had the razer dav3 h and i return it, the asus rog keris 2 is way better for me.

Viper V3 Pro is the best symmetrical mouse in terms of performance, and the Deathadder v3 is the best ergonomic in terms of performance righr now (will probably be refreshed soonish)

The Deathadder v3 is still a great pickup, but the only ones that are really worth picking up is the Wired or the Smooth touch

The Deathadder v3 is still a great pickup, but the only ones that are really worth picking up is the Wired or the Smooth touch

Is your left button wobble/side play/grinding? A French youtube reviewer got the mouse and showed the button problem in the video

I had the same problem with the brand new unit. After heavy use for about 2 weeks, the right button feels tighter, and the clicking noise and wobble were almost gone

as much as I used to simp for GPX I have to admit Razer nailed it with the Viper V3 Pro... also having DAv3 Pro and DAv3 HS compared to Logitech's 7 years old outdated G703 isn't even a contest.

the deathadder v3 hyperspeed is smaller. dav3 wired/pro is ever so slightly smaller because it doesn't have the flared out edges like the dav2 does, but they both feel pretty similar in hand from what I remember (I have the dav3 wired and v2 hyperspeed)

Razer DeathAdder V3 HyperSpeed. I have it and like it

Rn im using the deathadder hyperspeed with a key 83 xsoft and mchose ace 68. I play cs all day everyday

After years of using small fingertip mice and a gpx I bought a deathadder hyperspeed and I’m in love with it for cs2.

iirc deathadder essentials is just a cheap deathadder. (edit: comparable to ec1) a smaller deathadder would be deathadder hyperspeed with front flares, which would be comparable to ec2

going from a viper mini to hyperspeed v3 feels good for now ngl only 1 problem weight..but in the time period of me changing mouse i took an 100gm mouse so i got used to it..

V3 hyper speed 😉

The Death Adder V3 wireless is fantastic! And the battery last way longer than the Viper Ultimate. I actually swapped from the Viper Ultimate after having it for about a year. Love my DA V3!

Choose by size first of all. I have somewhat bigger hands (or long fingers rather) at 20cm, and I've tried well over 30 mice. Anything under 124-125mm length is too small for me, 125-130 is good for palm/hybrid grip. \- Zowie ZA12-C or anything else from C-series (with reduced weight) or their wireless mice. \- G Pro X Superlight 1/2 is a very safe choice in both shape and sturdiness \- Razer Deathadder V3/Pro is a decent ergo shape. Delux M900 / M900 Pro is a great clone of it

It's an asymetrical right hand shape, people usually call it an ergo mouse, though it's not truly one, just fits snuggly. If you like the shape, I would just get a newer iteration. The V2 has the same shape, updated sensor and no double clicking due to optical switches, though you can only find this one used. V3 has a bit different shape (still DeathAdder just less grooves), no RGB, lighter weight, again updated sensor (with up to 8K polling) and better switches with even lower latency. Both has HyperSpeed or Pro variants if you want wireless.

Redragon one reminds me of deathadder v3 which I own, the hyperX one reminds me of viper. Depends really which grip/handsize.

My DAV3 had scroll issues , replaced it and happened again after 4 months not gonna reccomend it, i bougth Superligth 2, i assume if you want ergo Superligth 2 Dex would be better

I love wired so I use razer deathadder v3

Based on what? I hit better shots with my endgame Gear OP18K than when I was with the deathadder v3

personal best? sym = viper v3/sora V2 | ergo = thorn/deathadder v3 budget? ergo = delux m900 pro, zaopin z2 | sym = attack shark, VGN r1, VGN dragonfly which one have i been using the most as of late? sora v2 on a glass pad with donut skates. But for the most part, all comes down to which grip. if you have any more questions, i can try to answer some for you, ive tried way too many :3

Razen deathadder v3 is great, especially if u have big hands. Comes wireless and wired, i have the wired one. Its super light and performs really good. But be aware the mouse breaks easy. On lost clutch and one punch was all it took to kill my first v3. But using it was such a great experience that i bought another one, that im using right now (about half a year in total)

You do have a pretty good mouse. It can do 8k with a dongle, under 2ms latency. I have those internals in a Viper Mini SE shell that I had 3D printed in nylon. It is not noticably different in performance to my DAV3. I'm not saying you shouldn't upgrade. I'm just saying what you have is closer to the best gaming mouse out there than it is to a random Bluetooth wireless mouse from the corner store. That being said, most "better" mice will be lighter. If you want a weighty mouse, with premium features, look for something like a used Logitech G502 or G502X, or Razer Basilisk. Those RTS ready mice have a lot of extra buttons, but are also heavier. Most gaming focused mice go for lightest weight possible. As a result, even $160 Logitech and Razer offerings tend to feel cheap. At least, cheap if you equate weight to quality. Which, most people do before they try a super light class mouse. To each their own.

DeathAdder v3 if you on a budjet

Oh how did i not notice, but yeah i have one too and its really nice one

I have the deathadder 3 and my only complaint is that the dpi switch is on the bottom. Aside from that minor complaint, it has really high dpi offering and tracks excellently on many surfaces.

If you're willing to go outside of your comfort zone with a different brand I'd try the OP1 8k from endgame gear, even though it's wired it's seriously an amazing mouse. But if you're trying to stick with those brands then for Logitech I'd go with a superlight, even the first generation still holds up well today. And for Razer I love the Deathadder v3 as I grew up with that shape, but if you want a symmetrical mouse then a Viper V3

I have both op1 8k and deathadder v3 , now using the op1 just because it's bit better for black ops 6. But it you are not into fps gaming , then deathadder v3 is fine. If you play cod warzone and you do lot of movement the smaller shape is gonna save more space for the mouse to move around. Also you need to upgrade the firmware of op1 8k if you buy it. If you have very large hands then but xm2

Ok for that grip don't buy op1 8k , it's too small. But deathadder v3 it's gonna feel fire. In my area it's really affordable on sales.

Bro 🤣🤣🤣, my deathadder v3 is cooked after almost 2.5 months of usage 🤣🤣🤣, the usb disconnects automatically. I had to clean install windows for a purpose. It's not a driver or razer software side issue. The physical cable got damaged , i use it to play call of duty black ops 6 🤣. A mouse lasting 2.5 years would be a dream to me. I got it on sale from Amazon, might be some shit unit. But i would suggest to buy something else. Don't buy op1 8k also. Just get some wireless mouse like VXE mad r major , i personally ordered atk f1 extreme. Time to go wireless finally. Fuck the wire. 👍😆😆🤣

TLDR: Pick whatever mouse is the most comfortable. They will all be practically identical in terms of latency and sensor accuracy. What matters is what feels nice in your hand. You want a mouse that will work well with your hand size, grip and aiming style. If you don’t have the option to try all the mice and you feel comfortable using the Deathadder v2 then maybe the v3 is the best choice. My personal experience having moved back and forth between asymmetrical and ambidextrous mice is that ambidextrous mice can feel comfortable enough in the beginning, but they might never reach the same level of comfort as an asymmetrical mouse. It’s a bit of a long answer, but I hope you find what works for you 😊

I got a Deathadder V3 recently and I'm loving the shape. I always found the Deathadder shape to be not quite there for me, but in this latest version they changed the shape to be a bit taller and flair out less at the end. Fits really nicely and I can pick the mouse up with ease. Normally takes me a while to get used to new mice, but this one felt fantastic from the get go. I did like the viper and G pro, but this just fits much better for slightly bigger right handers in my opinion. I did get the red Faker version though, as I wanted the rubberized texture instead of the normal scratchy texture that comes on the razer mice. My hand gets a bit sweaty and the extra grip from this texture has been really nice.

Even after trying the top of the line mice like GPX/GPX 2, Deathadder V3/Viper V2 Pro, I still come back to my modded G305 with lipo AAA battery.

I will never use Logitech again, but other than that, i've been using Steelseries mice until the latest ones stopped being confortable to me. Got curious for some Corsair models as well, but never seemed right to me. Nowadays, Razer Deathadder V3. the V2 was something as well, but V3 is the best for me. Disclaimer: I never liked Razer products, those are the two exceptions.

I havent tried steelseries but razer is far away from trash. I also like mice and try different ones every now and then like the vaxee xe, gpx2, viper v2 pro, dav3, pulsar x2v2, and much more. I have had a razer basilisk for like what 5 years now? Maybe even more and it hasnt gave me one single problem. I have the death adder v2 mini for years and havent had a single problem. I main the viper v2 pro and its the most amazing mouse for me out of all the ones i tried and still have in my collection including the new gpx 2. If you have a problem with a mouse dont make it a general statement and push people away from it. Because just like you have a problem, many people have had none. That goes for almost all top brands.

Deathadder V3 is a great choice, otherwise could look into the GPX Ergo

I feel like OP1 is the best claw shape for small and medium hands and xm2 for big hands. Dav3 for palm grip even though, me personally I liked the size of dav2 more, because it is larger if I recall correctly.

I have similar size hands, and deathadder v2 fits best. V3 is smaller in the wrong places.

Any update how this performs? I am looking to upgrade again. Noticed this problem from my G305 now to the Deathadder V3… and the deathadder I have just gotten a week ago and already causing issues.

People that recommend the Viper Mini either havent tried it themselves or dont know better, that cable is stiff, thick so its not even compatible with mouse bungees I wouldn't subject a friend to that. The minimum I'd pay for a wired mouse with an actually good cable is around 2k for the Wired Razer and Pulsar options (Razer Deathadder V3 and Pulsar X2/X2H/Xlite Wired) and max at 3k-4k for the 8k options from Endgame Gear with good wired cables as well (OP1 8k and XM2 8k) at 1k the only reasonable option is VXE R1, whatever version you can get (avoid pro max, switches suck)

but razer do not use microusb anymore, they use type-c in all mice since viper v2/deathadder v3

Razer mice only relatively recently has gotten pretty good. Dav3 and viper v3 pro are solid. The rest of their entire product line, not so much.

Deathadder V3 (wired with your price point). One of, if not the, best mice out there.

I have a DAV3 that's been pretty great. Its a RH ergo-type mouse with 4 buttons and a scroll wheel. No RGB, and it is wired. It's been solid and the optical switches have a nice click/feel. Thing is super-light, too. It's got 8k polling (if you're into that) and 30k dpi. I've tried using other mice and that's been okay, but I always go back to the DAV3. Like all Razer products, it requires Synapse. That irritates me and is the number 1 reason why I'm always looking for something else.

Is Keris II an option? It's a good mouse, albeit not great for its price. Otherwise I would honestly go the Dav3 route as there's really not a lot that's recommendable from the other mainstream brands.

Deathadder V3 / Teevolution Terra when that comes out / Pulsar Xlite V3 maybe

Deathadder v3 is pretty awesome in my opinion, that and the glorious model I

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/s/etT5BShYPS https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/s/6B8ER5IJ6z https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/s/Q1XyPspcbO You can ask other people who have bought the mouse. *** If u wanna go wired, Razer DAV3 is the pick, it's a lil bit over budget but it's probably the best mouse in both raw performance (next what I say is subjective) size and coating. Even if people disagree on the last part, no1 will deny it being the best VFM from a big brand.

Right now, the Razer DeathAdder V3 is the closest to my perfect preferences. Size, ergonomics, and build quality are top-notch. I've been using it for 4 months - everything is great. I need a bit bigger mouse :)

The one with a shape you're comfortable with, fits your hand the most and is compatible with your grip style. For me, I have large hands and I have a hybrid grip (I use a palm grip for large sweeping flicks, claw grip to track players and switch to a fingertip grip during spray control). I used the Glorious Model D for a couple of years before the right mouse button died. Now I'm rocking the Razer Deathadder V3 and I'm very satisfied with it.

This needs to be higher up. I'm only on this thread because my DeathAdder V3 scroll wheel died

Pulsar Xlite v3 is far and away my favorite at the moment. Have used DAV3, Ec2, gpro DEX, Vaxee outset. It’s essentially an Ec2 clone

I went with the Razer DeathAdder V3 after watching this video. [https://youtu.be/5kStdyIahPQ](https://youtu.be/5kStdyIahPQ) Very helpful and must have.

I went with the Razer DeathAdder V3 after watching this video. [https://youtu.be/5kStdyIahPQ](https://youtu.be/5kStdyIahPQ) Very helpful for my games.

I went with the Razer DeathAdder V3 after watching this video. [https://youtu.be/5kStdyIahPQ](https://youtu.be/5kStdyIahPQ) Very helpful and must have.

Yea i used to be sceptical of Razer and their cringey gamer branding, but i just got the Dav3 and its a huge upgrade over my logitech

G pro wireless, awaiting an RMA for my dav3 currently but I'm not quite content. V3P didn't feel great either, too narrow grip width which is a shame.

I bought a second hand deathadder v2 once, and it lasted 3 years. Now I have a v3 and it’s been 5 without changing it. Those mice are near indestructible. I doubt the clones can last that long

Finally got my Viper V3 Pro Sentinels Edition is the perfect match between Beauty and Performance. The only gripe with this mouse is the big SEN logo on the back. Switched from GPX Superlight 2 have also used Final Mouse I’ll be it Cape Town, DaV3 and Logitech G303 in recent years.

My version had horrible mushy side buttons. Plus I prefer the dav3 shape more.

I had both in hand, size-wise they are pretty similar but the twist on dav3 is a bit more conservative afaik. I mean, the lmb and rmb are more flat than on xLite. Would affect palm grip a little. But yeah, dav3 is also an option for big hands

My hand is 18.5x10cm ish, and I've gone through every ergo and symetrical mouse out there that would feel good for palm grip or fingertip grip. I used a rvu for 3 years but it seemed kind of small and had a weird heavy point, and switched to my current main which is the deathadder v3. Fixed my aim basically and its comfortable af

The best one for large hands and not expensive but it is wired which is the razer deathadder v3 there the expensive one from it which is the wireless, you can search for the pulsar xlite in general they wireless and in the middle ground

The deathadder for me has been the perfect shape for 10+ years, the fact that its lighter and wireless now is just cherry on top

Razer Deathadder and Logitech 502 are the only wireless I have experience with, they're decent enough though the wireless deathadder has no textured side grips. Your price range is less a choice and more entirely dictated by the ridiculous prices gaming mice have gotten to sadly.

Razer DeathAdder v2 hyperspeed or any deathadders wireless is good for your hand

I second this. I have a Razor mouse (I can't remember the model offhand - something named after a snake tho). The ability to set the mouse wheel to "free run" with a single button click makes a huge difference when moving cargo around.

tbh, idk, the deathadder would suite your grip style

I use the death adder. Don’t sleep on using mouse wheel up/down as binds too. Great for focus interrupts and CC.

Deathadder V2x. I have used all 3. I currently own Chimera and Deathadder. Chimera is bad. It has absolutely bad accuracy. Deathadder is much better in terms of cursor movement accuracy. Logitech is average at best and not very comfy (for me).

There is no better mouse for game. There are mouse more comfortable for specific sizes and grips (way you hold the mouse). Usually the most comfortable and standard is an ergo mouse like razer’s deathadder, lamzu’s thorn, pulsar’s x3, logitech superlight dex… But all of those are probably more expensive than ur budget

Deathadder, it just feels right in my hands.

Kreo was a sponsor at one event in my college. They gave mouse and keyboards to winners of competitions. I won the FIFA tournament and they gave me this same mouse. I had a 4 year old Deathadder from Razer I purchased for 2.5k at a sale. I gave that to my Mother and started using this mouse. Quality issues are the main concern but other than that even in normal use cases other than gaming the mouse would sometimes stop working for 10 seconds and start working again. Scroll wheel button got jammed once I didn't know that was even possible. In games this mouse is inconsistent due to its sensor. I think I didn't really give it much time to grow on me but after all the random disconnections, it managed to surprise me with DPI changing when it started working again. DPI normal was 800, I used 1500 so pressed the button 2 times to switch to that. When it stopped working and on again, it switched back to 800. This was in the middle of games. I switched back to my Deathadder in 2 months. Mummy ko Logitech ka mouse dilwa diya. Kreo wala kisi junior ko de diya jisne 5 dinn baad hi boo diya ki itna chutiya mouse free mein bhi nahi Lena chaiye thha aapse. And all these frustrations were after I got it for free. I can't even imagine paying 4k for this. Get a Deathadder, Orochi, or a Viper 8K. All of them are mostly at discounts. Check Elitehubs and MDcomputers. You'll find cooler master, Razer, Logitech, corsair, even fucking hyperx mice far better in quality and performance than these. Fuck it. I have used a zebronics mouse for 3 months and that felt less hassle than this. If all the mice were cars, this one would be a tuktuk.

Deathadder, built like a tank if it can withstand the abuse of online competitive shooters that i play it can withstand anything(i had to buy 3 sets of keyboard over the past year pls don’t ask me why)

There is no best mouse tbh it's shape dependant. Lamzu (Thorn, Maya, Atlantis), Pulsar (X2, or Xlite), Razer (Viper or Deathadder), Logitech (G Pro), VXE (R1 or Mad R) Just a few brands to look into and check shapes on^ There are loads of decent mice out there these days though. Just look for something with either a PAW3395 or the newer PAW3950 sensor. Can save quite a lot of money and still get a competitive mouse by going with a Chinese brand like VXE, Lamzu, or Scyrox, etc. Some of these have Web based software also which imo is vastly better than razers Synaps and Logitechs GHub. AimAdept on YouTube has lots of videos on gaming mice.

I moved to razer's mice after the double click problems with Logitech's and while they don't have the double clicking issue, the scroll wheels are worse. Returned the Viper mini due to random scrolling in opposite direction and the return started having the same issue in few months. Deathadder has fared better but its scroll wheel starts squeaking now and then.

Deathadder if you have palm grip.

Never found the appeal of mmo mice, but my all time favorite mouse is the razer deathadder, because the shape of it is just perfect for my hand. And I get two keybinds on the side. Not very durable though, I think I’m on my 4th deathadder, but that’s over a decade timespan. A few years ago I did for a small period of time try a logitech g502, I didn’t really like it. But that’s personal taste, I will use a deathadder till the end of times, perfect size/shape/ergonomics for me anyway.

Just want to say that I also have a shitty scroll wheel after about a year with the normal deathadder lol

If your main use case is gaming, razer death adder is fine. It's lighter than the others, good for gaming.

yes but deathadder is still good

Need a mouse in the 60-70 AUD range, What I am looking for is: 1. Medium in size, I used the razer deathadder, logitech g102 before, The deathadder felt nice, g102 was a bit smaller but manageable. 2. good buttons, Specially a good wheel. Among the 3 gaming mice(3rd being aorus m2 lol) I've used in my life, all 3 of their wheels got fvcked in like less than a year. The m2 lasted a whole before fully killing the wheel. G102 was alright, it works most of the time but not always. And the worst being deathadder, Both the wheel and the cable died under 3 months wtf. 3. not ugly. It doesn't have to be pretty But I saw mouses with goofy lighting which legit looks like sticker(could be sticker idk). 4. weight doesn't matter that much since I'll not be using it for competitive or hardcore gaming. 5. wireless Thank you.

I used the Corsair for a couple years. I am using the Razer now. I really lied the ability to reposition the button pad on the Corsair. I have fairly large hands, so sliding that bit forward was comfy. Like many people, I ran into issues with the scroll wheel. Read online that a little lubrication would fix it, and it did. Temporarily. I would regularly have to open the thing and dab a bit more oil in there. Eventually, it didn't quite go back together right, and the right click started to fail. Additionally, I liked the iCue software, once I had it figured out. I would actually program in some macros to help with crafting. I went for the Naga next. It has been fine. I struggle a bit to hit the back three buttons on the fixed pad. There's also no real tactile difference between them, so it is often a matter of "Thumb forward, confirm first column, move back to desired column, press button." I'm used to it, though, so it does not slow me down. I have one more... odd complaint. I play from a recliner. The arm of the recliner is my mouse area. Movement is absolutely fine, but the pads have so little friction that the thing will slide off of my chair the moment I remove my hand. So if I am not raiding, or otherwise doing normal computer things, I have a wired Deathadder at hand. There is not enough play in the wire for it to fall off. You will probably never again hear someone complain about mouse movement being *too smooth*, but here we are.

Razer Deathadder, you won't be disappointed. Best mouse in the game, never has a mouse fit me so well and I've tried so damn many. No wireless, they just don't feel the same.

I use a razor death adder, it’s useful to have a few extra buttons, I personally have one button set to interact ie open doors etc and another to toggle between sights if I’m running a scope with a canted or top mounted red dot.

Well.... I've had the Razer Deathadder for 5 years and still functioning unproblematically... So, that would be my recommendation lol

Go to Microcenter and try a couple diff shapes out. Or look online and see what shapes other people like for their style. Claw / fingertip / palm. Check length of your hands you really care. I had a deathadder and just switched to ENDgame Op1. Feels amazing

Deathadders of various generations for the last 10 years. Fits my hand well and modern mice are so good its splitting hairs comparing them.

Deathadder

I've been using the same DeathAdder since 2017 and it's not slowing down. Some of the adhesive material that keeps the gel grip pad on the thumb side of my mouse is weak so the grip itself is peeling up but I'm just going to reglue that. cheap mouse (i have the basic wired version), great feel, light weight, lasts forever

Save up to like 50-60 and get a razer deathadder

I had 2 razer deathadders, both had the middleclick die after 2-3 years... Next one is not going to be razer definetly.

Cheap deathadder ftw

i personally just use a razer deathadder. and i wouldn't go anything else. it's exactly the amount of thing you need and it's light fast and cheap it's not wireless if that's a dealbreaker 

Razer deathadder any day

razer deathadder does it for me. others just feel small and hurt my hand.

According to your use: Pure hardcore gaming: Logitech G402 Calm casual gaming: Razer deathadder, Logitech G203 YouTuber or steamer: Razer Cobra Best budget: Kreo hawk My choice is that you should take Razer deathadder or G203 as it is cheap, provides peaceful gaming experience and provide decent aesthetics

Logitech g502 or lightspeed. I wouldnt go with razer as i went through like 5 deathadders, and all of them developed a double click problem (i play alot of games that require alot of clicking). Had the logitech lightspeed for some time now and its been solid.

Razer deathadder. Best decision you will ever done

If you like the shape, updated DA is likely your best bet, or maybe a Zowie EC1-DW

Just don’t but a mouse solely for the 8k hz polling rate. Theres a lot of info on youtube about it, basically its useless and it strains your CPU more, on top of that it drains the battery of the mouse very fast. I recently bought the Razer Viper V3 pro, its very light, i put it on 2k hz polling rate. Before this one I had the Razer Deathadder, but i recommend the viper v3 pro! Hope this helps

The caveat with Razer is that rebinding mouse buttons does not work in Linux. While the defaults work for me (I have a deathadder and a naga, and the side buttons on both are mapped to number keys), someone with a more specialized use case will need access to Windows to set up the mouse. OpenRazer only allows you to adjust the lighting and sensitivity IIRC.

My personal experience with the Deathadder was not that great. I got it from Amazon around 6 months back, but recently the power/mode switching button stopped functioning properly (the mouse wouldn't turn on or sometimes randomly turned off while using it). This might have happened because I frequently switch between my work mac (bt mode) and personal pc (2.4ghz mode). So I have sent it for RMA, hoping to get a replacement. Meanwhile I got the G304 (as it was in-stock :) ), and the experience has been good for the past couple days. Really liked the quick connectivity due to the lightspeed tech (deathadder usually had a couple seconds delay).

no idea why youre locked in to those 2 brands. endgame gear makes the op1 8k and the xm2 8k, both are symmetrical and the wired versions come in under $90. aside from initial setup you can get rid of the software too because it saves to the mouse. also you wont notice the wire, its that good. as others have mentioned the deathadder also comes in a wired version under $80, but it isnt symmetrical

Go for Deathadder. I have Logitech which double clicks after a year, kreo is shit. Deathadder has lasted me 3 years without any issues for gaming.

I have the G502 and it's great. Razer Deathadder was my previous mouse and it died shamefully in the middle of a game, maybe others have a better experience with it, from my experience Razer is not reliable.

Honestly, not everyone playing at an above average tier or even pro level will have benefits from low weight. Its really a matter of aim styles, grips, body and arm position, etc. I can only find my ideal sens for both flicks and tracking with a bit more weight, without it, one is always a bit off. You just gotta look around, many pros in many games still use mice like the ec2 or even the deathadder. Low weight is not better, its just more suited to the majority (i agree with that). And Im all about diminishing returns , its super fun to maximize potential! But in my case and many others in my gaming circles a bit of weight can give better results no matter if you play slow, super fast, etc. It's really personal "preference". I wish these things were predictable, my wallet would be happier !

I recently bought the deathadder and let me tell you it is the most comfortable mouse I've used The hand just fits and the mouse just glides

Even the Deathadder looks very mild if the RGB logo is off.

Razer death adder has been going strong for 6 years, only two side mutations, but that’s enough for me

Using razer deathradder. Only 800php. Never been so comfortable working and playing

I’ve had a razor deathadder for a few years now and had zero issues.

I just bought the g502x and can't fault it. I was pretty set in my ways using some steelseries mouse, then tried to upgrade to the razer death adder for the extra button. I plugged all three mice in and the g502x won out. It just feels so nice in hand

Razer Deathadder, still going strong, no complaints, used for work and play. Light and responsive for my stiffening fingers.

I got a Razer Deathadder and when one of the mouse buttons stopped working and I tried to file a warranty claim the process was such a pain in the ass that I quit. Logitech just had me record a video to verify the problem and then sent me a replacement; I didn't have to return the defective mouse. I'm not sure if that's their policy anymore, but I appreciated it. Meanwhile, Razer had me record a video first thing, then kept asking me to perform troubleshooting steps that I already told them I'd tried (since they told me to in the support article), and then a couple times closed out my ticket because I took a few days to reply (and after reopening the ticket, they basically wanted to start from the beginning again), and then they wanted me to ship the defective mouse back to them at my own expense, warning that if the mouse was deemed non-defective I would not be receiving the product back or a replacement. After that I complained and they agreed to provide a shipping label, but at that point I was done. I'm pretty sure that's the goal, make the return process such a hassle that people give up and they don't have to honor their warranty, so they won that battle. Still, I'm never buying another Razer product again. I did have a string of Logitech mice that had double click problems, which is why I switched to options that had optical switches for a bit. But those had their own issues, so I'm back to using a Logitech 305. If it starts double clicking again, hopefully the warranty process is still painless, and if it comes to it, it's pretty cheap to replace.

Deathadder! It is so good that it got me banned in some CS server saying I'm a hacker! Lol! Good old days!

I have used both the g304 and deathadder, personally I find razer more comfortable and the scroll wheel is better on razer

For gaming first measure you palm and then check weight of mouse you might like, I started with g402 140gm but after shifting to deathadder 59g feel much better. For large hands g402 deathadder suits. https://preview.redd.it/mh7pyzyl90ne1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d40cdcb4051181e2d1a84b121f43fc03979f72b4

I’ve used the deathadder for over a decade now. Its simple and feels like the old school mice to me

Razer death adder Logitech G403

Razer Deathadder is great, I have just purchased one myself. Very light, great for FPS. Comes with free click tape, that's a bonus.

almost bought a fake Deathadder myself

Nope the deathadder is not tri mode, just bt and dongle. Would recommend tho

Good luck lol 10$ isn't a budget, you can't find anything decent on aliexpress for that price, and any g102 or deathadder you'll find for less than 10$ are fakes. So either increase your budget, 25$ is a minimum to have something decent, or get anything that looks cool but lower your expectations.

I’ve used both g304 and deathadder, great mice. Razer’s software is better than Logitech’s but build quality is comparable, plus more buttons with the Deathadder.

I’ve tried a bunch of mice -final mouse UL and UL mini -glorious model O -g403 -g203 -death adder -GPro wireless And I still like the g502 best

oh yeah 100%, the deathadder from the first second I saw it felt like a robbery for the the specs

Always been a fan of the death adder. So simply. So nice.

non pro viper wireless, razer deathadder, i'd argue g305 lightspeed, xtrfy m42, wired zowie, superlight 1, glorious wired, some lgg mice, some vaxee mice, endgame gear op1k. All these are like 25-80€ if my quick currency version is right. Some of these are wireless too. Especially if you snipe a sale you can get a really good deal. in "top tier mice" I mean the ones that are basically the same shape as the "standards", superlight 2, viper v3 pro, deathadder v3 pro, etc. Obviously the tech is a bit worse, but we were hitting insane shots on mice 15+ years ago, even the worse mice are 100% good enough. 4k/8k polling doesnt change that much, and thats the major sell of the more expensive mice. I've managed to pick up qck+ for like 10€ on average the last few years, always on sale somewhere. Otherwise a sale on a lgg saturn (standard), zowie gsr (any version you prefer). Qck might not be the longest lasting, but it's usually on a good sale so you never really have to fork out more than AT MOST 40€ a year on it if you're really picky with pad and swap it 4x a year, but most ppl usually keep it for 6-24 months atleast.

There were a lot of different gaming mice back then. Razer's Naga line launched back then, as well as various other MMO mice (I remember a friend had a SteelSeries WoW mouse. Although a lot of mice from that era had more than the 5 buttons that are common today. Razer had the Lachesis, Deathadder, Copperhead, and some others which were solid options. Logitech had the G3, G5, G7, G9, G9x, MX518 and I believe the G500 all were popular. Microsoft Sidewinder was a solid mouse. If I remember right the Cyber Snipa was out around that time too. Which was a great mouse for the price at the time. The Saitek Cyborg also may have been out around that time. This is all just me thinking out loud of mice that I owned, friends owned, or I wanted.

Viper is nice. I liked the form of the deathadder myself. It's still superlight and responsive. Just felt a little nicer to my hand.

I also have a deathadder and I am very satisfied with. Especially durability - all other brands be it cheap or expensive are done after year or two. My Deathadder is 4 years old now.

I've been using Razer Deathadder. I'm on my third one, I usually get three-fours years out of one.

The mouse in the picture has a bump on the left rear side, similar to my Razer DeathAdder. When I switch back to the DeathAdder from a smaller mouse R1, that bump presses against my thenar eminence. My hand is 17 cm long, which might be a bit too small for this mouse. I'm not sure if that bump should be positioned more forward or backward relative to my thenar.

I dread the day mine stops working. I have a deathadder (pro?) but I can't pick the damn thing up without pressing one of the side buttons.

I got the razer V3 as my regular (larger mouse), a pulsar xlite V3 mini for my ergo needs and lamzu Maya X will be my 3rd and last for a while