Orochi Elite Mobile Gaming Mouse

It's hard to recommend mice without knowing your palm size, your budget and the kind of games you play. Random recommendations here are more or less shooting in the dark. I've used both of these mice (not the DA v2 Hyperspeed specifically but the shape) - the Orochi is a nice shape if you have small hands and you play fast paced shooters. However, it's not fun replacing batteries constantly. It isn't rechargeable. DeathAdder is a classic shape that has stood the test of time (they didn't change much for like 20 years until the V3, but it is on the larger side. If you only play casually, it doesn't matter all that much. Get whatever and call it a day. Both of these options are perfectly capable mice... as long as it fits your hand well. Just remember, shape is more important than any minor sensor differences and this can make or break your experience. For example, the GPX 2 Superlight which many people consider the best mouse on the market is completely unusable for me because the shape doesn't work for me. It keeps slipping out of my hand during big flicks. Out of all mice, I've probably dropped that one the most.

Both are good but the orochi one is ambidextrous while death adder is ergonomic right handed. Don't go for a death adder if you're left-handed.

Another way of looking at this is saying that true egg mice like the g305 have mirror-symmetric spherical geometry (always positive curvature), which is really great for providing grip and a base of control that will scale the more tightly you grip without causing any shifting or readjustment in your hand placement or tension. That latter point's probably the reason why the Orochi never worked for me, even though people call it an egg shape, because it was too short **and** the left side has negative curvature while the right side was almost totally flat, which caused a twisting motion when squeezing from both sides. Shape and surface texture go hand in hand. You shouldn't need to squeeze just to grip a mouse, but if your skin's too slippery for the mouse's surface texture then the true egg shape's the best hands down.

Orochi if u want a small size/weight and replaceable batteries , i love the mouse small , convenient and simple.

I had an Orochi for like 10 years, the one with a nice pouch and 2xAA I don’t like the new one 😕

Replace the Viper with the ATK "clone". I say "clone" because Razer technically doesn't make their own mice, they pay companies like Lamzu, etc.... to put Razer branding and customization on one of their pre-existing models. So sometimes the "clone" is actually the original, but we rarely know when that's the case since obviously all that communication and modifications are private, so we don't actually have a full grasp on who manufactures what (other than Lamzu probably being the largest manufacturer out there, it's confirmed they make all Zowie mice, however it would also appear that some Razer and Logi mice are just worse versions of an original Lamzu design). It's why a LOT of the "cheap clones" are direct upgrades to their Razer/Logi counterparts, because they're most likely the exact same mouse but without all the extra modifications and branding (and built to a higher standard since Razer and Logi follow a completely different economic scheme, when the Chinese companies follow a superior micro-profit scheme, there's a video on those plastic cigarette lighters that explains how they turn a 0.005 cent profit on each product into a million dollar profit rise, but long-story-short those "cheap" brands are economically incentivized to make the best product for the lowest price). As for which of the 3 - entirely depends on how you want to grip the mouse, not how you currently grip your current mouse, but when you grip a mouse what parts of your hand you want to use to hold and control the mouse. What parts of your hand you don't want to use are also an important detail to add too. Personally I've fallen in love with MCP-claw (knuckle-claw) and pure fingertip, though I've used pincer and carpal claw too, as well as palm (I do like pincer, carpal only works with select mice, and palm gives me severe wrist and finger pain due to how restrictive it is and how much strain it puts on your wrist). So I will be biased towards MCP and fingertip mice, however even with my bias I can still give advice on what features to look for.

They used too back in the ouroboros days, but not anymore. Razer is now a brand, maybe the Orochi and the Naga are still manufactured by Razer, but everything else is just a Razer branded factory mouse. I do think Steelseries and Turtle Beach (ex-roccat) still make their own mice, maybe HyperX too, (and Logi does still make their own non-gaming mice, and their own electronics), however as the years go the name-brands are slowly becoming the clones. Asus is the modern day equivalent to OG Razer, if you want premium build quality and unique designs, Asus is the new "gaming" name-brand. Though they might end up just like razer in a few years, they aren't American so there isn't much economic incentive to outsource their manufacturing to another country.

I used the orochi. If you like the shape of the g304 then you will like the mouse. It feels good with both claw and palm grip