Pro Click V2 Vertical Edition

I have been using my original Pro/Click since 2007. Still going strong! https://preview.redd.it/xpytj9u4js1g1.jpeg?width=4608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=025a3018b05741db33f786d7b2159f7d244e8c9f

Razer just released the pro click 2. It’s going to serve you better as a gaming device and the plastic is less prone to wear than the 3s. It’s around the same price the last I checked.

Hello, A while back, I started having elbow issue and my doctor recommended trying an ergonomic mouse. It was a good advice, although I still get the occasional pain I can now still spend up to 10 hours a day in front of a computer. There also began my quest for the perfect mouse, and I can’t say that I found the perfect match but I’m satisfied with what I have. I thought I’d share my comparison between 3 popular mice, since trying them added up to a fair amount of money. **Logitech MX vertical** The obvious choice. It is very comfortable, feels great in hand, is functional and is fairly cheap. This will probably be the ideal one for most people. But as most people know, it has a fatal flow: a very limited 150hz polling. Some will say that if are only doing office work it doesn’t matter, that this kind of detail only counts if you’re a competitive gamer. I strongly disagree. If you use screens with a high refresh rate and are used to it, this mouse just doesn’t feel smooth when moving it. Some people don’t care, some will even insult you for saying you need a high refresh and polling rate for anything else than competitive games. The hell with them. It’s really a shame, if Logitech ever releases a version with an improved captor, it will probably be the unambiguous best choice on the market. I still use it at my workplace though. I only have 60 and 70hz screens there, so moving the mouse feels sluggish anyway. **Razer Pro click V2 vertical** The second obvious choice, it is THE “gaming” vertical mouse (and I’m going to keep saying vertical rather than ergonomic here) everyone is talking about on the Internet, reviews on Youtube, etc. It seems to be a hit or miss with people, some say it’s great, other mentioned they didn’t like the way it felt in the hand. It is also quite more expensive than the Logitech. But I needed a decent ergonomic mouse and the return policy on Amazon is always no questions asked so I ordered it. And while I didn’t mind the shape, I had a lot of other issues that were not mentioned by reviewers. The first thing I noticed was the weight. Even though it’s only 15 grams more than the Logitech, it felt almost like the double, probably due to its shape and how it rests in the hand. It felt quite weird in the beginning but I got used to it and immediately got better scores in Aimlabs compared to the MX Vertical. The polling rate is much higher, so no issue there, it felt smooth and nice again on screen. I also appreciated how the extra thumb buttons are laid out, you only need to shift your finger a bit up or down and both are perfectly usable in games. On other mice I use only one of the buttons because the other is a pain to reach. But it had a very annoying flaw. Maybe it’s just me, but because of its weight and shape, it was almost impossible at times to lift it to recenter it on my mouse mat. You can’t really seize it because you will hit the top thumb button. It was only when I got a fair amount on sweat on my hand that I was able to have some grip on it. And that’s not even the worse. After some time, my elbow pain wasn’t really getting that much better. It started becoming uncomfortable very quickly, but for some reason when I was at work often coding 5 hours without taking a break, I wasn’t even noticing it. So it became obvious, the Razer mouse was doing more harm then good. It is almost fully vertical compared to the Logitech which is fairly angled, and keeping your wrist angled at 90 degrees up is in the end not much more natural than having it flat on regular mouse. That plus the weight was in the end probably putting even more strain on my nerve than my good old G903. Too bad I missed the window to send it back to Amazon, but I was able to sell it to someone who hopefully will have a better experience (and won’t have spent as much money if they don’t). **Keychron M5** So I needed a new model to try out and there wasn’t much choice on Amazon. Actually, there was pretty much nothing that seemed even decent, only very cheap ones. The only one I found that was regularly mentioned was the Keychron M5. Some liked it, some said it was really cheap built, they didn’t like the click and it also has that kind of little finger rest that a lot of users hated on the Razer. But I was out of options, so I ordered it from Keychron’s website knowing that if I didn’t like it I would have send it back to China with my own money, so pretty much not worth it. It took quite a while to arrive and when I took it out of the pack, my first reaction was “Oh shit, another one that is super hard to lift”. But in the end it wasn’t. It’s not as easy as the Logitech with its texture, but its fine. It’s only 95 grams so with just a little bit of sweat in hand it becomes a breeze, and you can actually squeeze it without hitting a button. About the cheap feeling people got, it’s… fine? It is very light, so it’s not premium sturdy material but the built quality seems perfectly adequate to me. Same for the click, it feels like a mouse click, I’ve been using them for close to 30 years and I don’t really anything wrong. The scroll is ok, I really miss the free wheel I had on the G903 but none of the other ones have that either. And there’s that thumb mouse wheel but I use a trackpad for horizonal scroll so I don’t have much to may about it. I did run into some technical issues though. At times the mouse would stop responding for like a second then jump on the screen, and there were even stutters in games. I lowered the ridiculously high 8000hz max polling rate to 1000 which is more than a enough anyway, but that’s still a weird problem, I don’t know if it’s a fault on my particular unit. Also, I realized that if my G903 was powered on (I still use it occasionally for practicality), I would get the same kind of problem. Probably the 2.4ghz bandwidth becoming too busy, but I own and have owned a fair number of peripherals using a 2.4ghz dongle and it’s the first time I encounter this problem. Faulty unit? Poor built issue? No idea. **Conclusion** So, in the end I’m satisfied with the Keychron M5. It’s not as comfortable as the MX Vertical, but the trade off for the polling rate is worth it. Those are my opinions that are linked to my hands and usage on those three models, you might feel totally differently, but my recommendation is Logitech MX Vertical if you don’t care about the polling rate, avoid the Razer and the Keychron might not be the best alternative out there but I’m satisfied with it.

Vertical mice help the best for the pain I believe. Razer seem to have released Click V2 vertical so that's an gaming oriented option. Another option is to use very light asymmetrical "ergo" mouse. Most obvious recommendation is deathadder v3 pro or v4. For vertical mouse you don't need to consider weight. I've also suffered pain in the same areas and still do a little. I did do strecthes which increased the pain at first but alleviated it eventually long term and started using lighter mouse with lighter scroll wheel button (I suspect very stiff middle mouse button added pain). I also recommend a healthy dpi range (800-1600). Too little or too much and you are going to use too much of your wrist or shoulder. Right now I use deathadder v3 pro or Pulsar v4 medium. Good luck! Edit: oh yeah don't forget a good shape.

basilisk v3 pro and pro click v2 are two very similar products (ignoring the appearance that pro click v2 has a professional looking and Basilisk has a Esports looking) with very small features disparity that really confuses me. As you mentioned, feature parity seemingly in software level deliberately by Razer team. Tried both mice, in the end I choose pro click v2 not Basilisk V3. The primary reason is its professional looking is better than Basilisk’s Esports looking to my taste. Its shape also makes my palm grip slightly more comfortable than Basilisk. But palm grip with Basilisk is also good though. I do really miss the smart wheel and don’t understand why it is missing in pro click (as OP mentioned that definitely suits better for office line). This is my biggest complaint especially my previous mouse was MX anywhere 3. (The magnetic wheel of MX anywhere 3 is the best wheel out of the market, even far more better then MX Master 3). Also note that pro click v2 has a slight edge that it supports 4 wireless device (3 Bluetooth + 1 2.4g) while Basilisk only supports two (1 Bluetooth and 1 2.4g).

Have you considered the Razer Pro Click Mini? The shape is actually quite similar. https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/3d-model-shape-compare/3d/razer-pro-click-mini-vs.-logitech-mx-anywhere-3s? Unfortunately, it’s fairly heavy for its size, although you can bring it down to about 70 g if you use only one AAA battery. It also uses Razer’s older 5G sensor, but it still performs well enough for competitive play.

I WANTED to try the MX4 until I heard the polling rate was the same 125Hz *shudders* So after the announcement I went and got the Razer ProClick V2. I had the V1 and loved it aside from the molded MicroUSB charging port. Still debating on if I should’ve sprung for the vertical version. Oh well