Razer - Viper 8KHz

I've had good luck with my Viper 8k as well. But the rubber pads on the sides are starting to wear pretty badly for me. Not sure why they went with a soft/stickier rubber there.

If you want something that is solid as a rock, inexpensive, and will last you for 3+ years, then I'd recommend the Razer Viper 8k. Incredible mouse. Plus, it doesn't seem like you mind using a wired mouse, which is great. I'd also highly recommend the Endgame Gear Op1 8k, but I can't promise that'll last 3+ years.

My copy hasn't had any scroll wheel issues at all. But I don't blame you for being worried because my Razer Cobra started to have scroll wheel issues literally the first year of owning it. But the Razer Viper 8k is a higher quality product than the Razer Cobra.

I've looked for big mouse all over the internet, even a few millimeters bigger, reviews with device measuring, filtering shopping sites, articles, there's none. There's only this one that's in the top comment. It's quite frustrating to have a tiny mouse to use. I think the closest one can get is with the Logitech MX Master 3S. But it's heavy, so not recommended for gaming. I've thought about getting it in the future, it's a bit expensive and not light so didn't. I don't know if it'd be good at all, but it's technically the biggest of the mainstream mice out there. My hands are not as big as yours, a tad smaller. I have Razer Viper 8K, might be the same size as the death adder v3. It feels slightly small, but is comfortable for me. the last two fingers don't curl into the hand like yours do, am able to grip the side of the mouse body. I have a bluetooth mouse that fits exactly like yours does, with two fingers curled up, I don't like it. I use the bigger Razer mouse even if the scroll wheel doesn't work properly. Bigger mouse is just better. I think 3D printed ones might be best for you.

Razer viper 8K it’s nuts

Please let me know if you find one. I've been looking for a wired mouse with a similar shape and size, but I encountered so many quality issues that I gave up. The Vaxee XE had an issue with the scroll wheel button, and the wired version is no longer in production. The Viper 8khz had an extremely wobbly left button, so I don't want to try any Razer products. The Cherry Xtrfy M50 had a wobbly scroll wheel. I plan to test the following in the near future: The Endgame Gear XM2 8khz, the XM1r (maybe the XM1r has better quality according to a few video I saw), and the Maya X (though I don't need the wireless function). Otherwise, I will order an old Logitech G Pro Wireless mouse. They are supposed to be extremely well-built, though the cable quality is not the best.

The V3’s shape and the V2 being out of stock at the time helped push me into buying a Viper 8k, though I guess my Viper’s getting a little old now

Alright, so, I have a question. Maybe I missed something, idk, but I'm wondering why literally ALL the new good mice are wireless: The deathadder V4 pro just come out, and there's no wired version. The superlight and superlight 2 have no wired version, pulsar mice are almost all wireless, ROG gaming mice are wireless, corsair's only good mouse is wireless, etc... I don't understand why ALL brands have to make wireless mice nowadays, and why people prefer wireless mice so much. Nobody does 360s with their mouse, nobody games 3 meters away from the pc. However, a lot of people think that they're bad at games because their mouse is wired. In addition, new hyperflex wires are unnoticeable (such as the one used on the Pulsefire Haste II) and I'm sure that, if you take someone who hates wired mice, he won't even make the difference between the Deathadder v3 and the v3 pro if he's blindfolded. Wired mice are lighter, cheaper, and more reliable, whereas wireless mice have shorter lifetime due to the [battery](https://www.electrochem.org/why-your-battery-doesnt-last-forever), are more expensive and require more advanced technology to achieve 8Khz. Plus, you have to charge them every week or buy a $100 charging mousepad to keep it charged 24/7. That's otherworldly dumb. And please don't fall for the latency dogma. That's super dumb. Humans' reaction time is around 200ms, so a 0.5ms or 1ms mouse latency will NOT make you worse at gaming, trust me. If you lose fights, that's your fault, not the mouse latency's fault. Like, the only good wired mice I can think of are the [Deathadder V3](https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments/yyoauq/deathadder_v3_scroll_wheel_issue_mouse_jumping/), the [Viper 8Khz](https://insider.razer.com/razer-support-45/razer-viper-8k-mouse-wheel-problem-50467), the [Pulsefire Haste II](https://www.reddit.com/r/HyperX/comments/14svxyx/hyper_x_pulsefire_haste_2wired_scroll_wheel_issues/) and the [xm1r](https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/pr4ui5/xm1r_scroll_wheel_bug/). EDIT: As some people pointed out to me, the [op1 8k](https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/1cg0c66/op1we_scroll_wheel_issue/) is also super decent. I'm not saying that wired mice are better, I'm just saying that I prefer them and I think that they're just as good as wireless mice. So uhm, if you know why good brands stopped making wired mice, or even give me your opinion about wireless mice, feel free to lmk !

Razer Viper 8K If it's not a problem that it's wired, this is the best value for money. And a good mouse pad is very important, which doesn't necessarily mean it's expensive.

Logitech G Pro 2 Lightspeed or another Razer Viper

My viper 8k still going strong

My viper 8k still going strong

My viper 8k still going strong

>Same with Razer. I've bought Viper 8k and viper V2 pro and none failed. Still working great. And I've been playing a lot. Like really a fucking lot. And you're telling me you've had how many mice now? Maybe you've got anger issues or fat hands idk man.

Get a Viper 8khz

Ikr, why isn't anyone recommending that. It's best af

Viper 8khz

Viper is goat. Btw how is Dav3?

Razer Viper 8khz, just because it suits me (ofc using few buttons that it offers, but these are rather common buttons) 🙂 Which mouse did they advertise?

Switched to a Cobra Pro not too long ago and before that I had a Viper 8K - both of whom also have those rubber inserts/pads on the sides. On the Cobra everything still looks like new after some months and on the Viper the right pad had worn-down "treads" and a visible dimple where my thumb was resting on it (I'm a lefty). Both of which is just normal wear and tear, as far a I can tell. But the rubber hadn't started to come apart or anything - so I'll join the other commentators who suspect it might have something to do with you using a cleaning agent unsuitable for this material. I took diluted isopropyl (though not diluted enough it seems) to a couple of keys on my Black Widow and it left some weird residue and/or damage on those. So it's definitely possible to damage certain materials with alcohol. I've found multiple instances of HW-manufacturers/-vendors recommending diluted white vinegar to clean stubborn dirt off your monitor's screen and while I did that I also tried the mixture on a couple of keys to see what would happen. And that didn't seem to have any negative effect on the plastic, so it's probably a lot safer than isopropyl for those materials. I used, probably 25 to 35% of essence of white vinegar and 65 to 75% of warm tap-water.

A9 is much faster compare to my razer viper. The coating on the mouse so good unlike razer and the switches are awesome, sude buttonare not hard to click like razer one's. Default mouse skates are also good you don't have to replace and they also provide red balance skates in the box and grip tapes but i like the Default one.

Less weight than my previous mouse+ better skates of course it will fast

I used the 502 for around 5 years, it has the best shape imo, the grip I used was similar to yours, very comfortable. Switched to g102 for fps games, disliked the shape and feel, still much lighter than 502. Then to razer viper 8k, shape felt awkward to hold but better than g102. VXE R1 is what I use now. I would still prefer the shape and weight of 502 over anything for all non-gaming use.

Made the same upgrade but i prefer the Viper ergonomics. But the A9 is a really great mouse, I have no complaints about It

I’ve been using an OG Wired Razer Viper since 2019. Gonna buy a Mad R and use that for another 3-5yrs. People should do research, get a mice that meets their needs, and then stop keeping up with mice for a few years to not feed into endgame consumerism

Maybe stupid question but ... are these good for 1-3-1 fingertip grip? Last time I used ergo was mx518.... aeons ago. Currently viper v1 and v2pro for last years. All 1-3-1 fingertip always. I could never learn the 1-2-2 grip. I am a \~2k dpi wrist fingertip 1-3-1 player

the original viper. but like you said, you dont consider it an option so its your money.

I thought the same thing when I first swapped over but over time you'll get used to it. Went from 502hero to a razer vyper and I like it so much more. Also the joy stick might become a problem to with hitting krybonds. That being said a 502 or any clone has a ton of binds.

I'm surprised you've had scrollwheels die on you. I play apex regularly using scroll wheel for jumping and tap strafing with a WL Sword X magnesium for a year and I've yet to experience any issues. I also like the fact that they don't require a program to be downloaded to change mouse settings and is just a web portal. Your experience may differ but I found it way better than my Deathadder V3, Superlight 1 and 2 as well as Razer Viper. It isn't the lightest mouse around, but I have larger hands and it fits well with claw grip for me personally.

Razer viper/viper mini, safe shape, works well. Simple.

I'm still probably going to go with the razer viper. I bought the ultimate back in like 2016-2018 and so far it's the longeat I've ever been able to keep a mouse both because my hands sweat when I get nervous and I flick hard so if there's a wire it'll be yanked out. I like the feel and fit of it, absolutely hate the company and the shit software you have to download just to get the mouse going and then get to uninstall. The only reason I'm looking to replace it is because the stand it comes with to charge or the metal pieces where the prongs on the stand sit are going bad and it won't charge without fiddling with it, and the rubber sides on both sides are just torn/worn down to the plastic lol, it still works amazingly and I still love the feel and size.

Yeah, you're not wrong enshitification affects everything. I'm still undecided on what or when to buy the next one i just know it's coming up and I enjoy the viper

I have a Razer Deathadder V3 and a Viper that I really like. Liked the Logitech G703 as well. My keyboard is some basic $8 USB one.

Have you tried the Razer basili....oh...oh my. Uhh.. Well... Sounds like you're a claw grip gamer, whether you want to be or not. Seriously though, RocketJumpNinja has a website and YouTube channel and has a bunch of recommendations. The Roccat/Turtle Beach Kone Aimo is a larger mouse, but it's also heavier. I need a bigger mouse and found the Kone Aimo from RJN a few years ago. The only problem I had with it was that the left click button would wear out too quickly. I played a lot of Siege and loved using the pistols. LOL I switched to a razer viper to try a different grip... The left click has yet to go out, but I find it a little small.

Currently using a logitech g502 and a razer viper on laptop and desktop respectively. Both are great mice. I think the razer naga hex (v1) was my favourite mouse historically though i got it around the start of GW2 and it was just very well suited to that game. I had the naga hex v2 after that and it was also great. (preferred the v1 slightly)

A tip from a guy that knows about mouse: you will hear a lot of mixed opinions about durability "I never had a problem with it", "it sucks", but the truth is that's all subjective by their experiences, by design any mouse no matter how expensive can double click, specially if has no optical switches (most of them) otherwise, a mouse that mostly won’t encounter these issues using normal swiches does not exist TBH, but the chances of having double clicks are very very low, otherwise a lot of mouse companies would not sell, all you can do is watch good mouse reviewers like AimAdapt, usually when they say that a mouse is good is really good and choosing one with opticals if you are traumatized with double clicks, mouses with opticals is the way to go, solid construction is very easy to find nowdays, I also suggest you to consider your gripstyle to check all the boxes, if you use fingertip then why not go for Razer Viper, they are solid, good warranty, optical switches, recommended by any reviwer.

My viper is 3 yrs old and has been barely hanging on. Logitech from 2015 is still going strong. Never buying another razr mouse/keyboard.

My viper is 3 yrs old and has been barely hanging on. Logitech from 2015 is still going strong. Never buying another razr mouse/keyboard.

My viper is 3 yrs old and has been barely hanging on. Logitech from 2015 is still going strong. Never buying another razr mouse/keyboard.

Basilisk v3, i play a lot of siege and it is my favorite mouse. Depends if he has big hands or not, basilisk is fantastic if you have big hands, small hands seam to prefer the viper, I had one and found it very uncomfortable. Appears to be 69.99 on razers website but it should be available elsewhere.

I like to rest my hand on the mouse as well, so my pick is always an ergo shape. I’ve tried Razer Viper’s shape and VGN’s Dragonfly shape (which is similar to Logitech’s G Pro), but as soon as I got my hands on a Rapoo VT3 Pro Max, it became my number 1 mouse. What I personally would suggest you is to look on [EloShapes](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=razer-mamba-elite) for mouses that has a similar shape to the Mamba, this way you’ll know if the mouse you’re looking will fit your hand just fine. When I got my mouses/mice, I went for cheaper/cost-benefit options, just to test the shapes out. My plan was to move for a better mouse once I found my shape to go, but the VT3 fit me so good, that I just kept it.

I still love my G502 although been using my Razer vioer more often lately. The comfort of the G502 is not making me leave it though

i had a raza naga and basilisk. I also tried a g203 and razer viper, both of which were too small for my hands.

MX518. I wish they had wireless. Deathadder V3 Pro (I do also have the Hyperspeed too but I keep gravitating to the V3 Pro) I tried the Basilisk V3 (didn't like it), tried the Orochi V2 (too small and hurts hands), tried the Viper (preferred Deathadder V3 Pro better), tried the GPro (prefer Deathadder v3 pro much better) For eronomic office mouse I actually oddly enough loved the microsoft sculpt mouse. It's like a big ball. But it's discontinued now. I also like the MX Master 3 but it can feel clunky at times - but I rotate between that and the DAV3 Pro.

Razer is a gaming mouse company that makes the Vipers and DeathAdders that are best bought refurbished, I really wouldn't buy much of anything else from them. Their keyboards are way too expensive for what they compete with in the same price bracket nowadays, same with their headphones, and whatever else they make. If you ever own a razer mouse, get the software, choose your polling rates, and delete everything on your computer with the word razer on it.

A bigger mouse may not be better, you need a mouse that fits your hand , i had big mice but none realy felt good in my hand , then i tried a smaller mouse "razer viper" been in love with it ever since

I used to have a deathadder V2 (halo edition) and had to go to the Naga V2 hyperspeed as my adder died on me after a year. The Naga has been fantastic thus far, I'm a year and a half in and I love it. 12 side buttons, free spinning (and normal) scroll wheel, you can *sideclick* the scroll wheel (both directions) and customizable DPI from a button notched out of the Left mouse button. I don't know how similar to YOUR Naga it is, but I felt the need to specify. Out of all of razer mice I've owned the Naga V2 feels the best. Glorious Model O was my favourite by far but it's not an mmo style. (Or razer, lol) Little bit of extra context also: my Naga does NOT have the 'quick connect' side buttons like other models. Mine is an mmo style mouse and mmo style ONLY. Edit: I never put a list, but I owned 3 deathadders from the first edition, the v2 and the halo edition, 2 Nagas now (mmo and standard), as well as the... Viper? I think it's called. I didn't like it. The Naga is my favourite for versatility but the deathadder felt the nicest. It was also like $90 CAD. Downside is its a battery operated, takes a single AA

Imo Razer is not that good. I had everything from razer. headphones, mouse, mousepad, keeb etc. and I can say that the overall build quality is bad, but razer makes good switches. Switches in razer huntsman mini are really good. Edit: Headphones - Razer kraken first gen and Razer kraken X USB - broken after 5 months (Same happened to all my friends) Mouse - Razer basilisk X and Razer Viper - Viper fast teardown and rattling problem, basilisk - Sometimes it was losing connection (the receiver was 1m away from the mouse) Keyboard - Actually good I still have it

Everyone hates the clicks on the Deathadder and viper. I find them to be most satisfying out of any mice I’ve owned. They are very.. I dunno, surgical?

yea like a viper might be the best out there but not by a mile. although i do love mine

This is exactly what I'm going through right now. Ultimately I'd like to find a mouse with a shape thats an evolution of the g305. I've been looking at elo shapes to find a similar mouse but they don't really provide the curves of the mouse just the overall silhouette and size. Some of the mouse I've tried are the Razer Orochi v2, fantech aria, Razer viper, mchose l7, pulsar x2h, zaopin z1. So far I've liked the fantech aria shape the most out of all the mice I've tried but there hasn't been anything quite like the g305 shape other than ofcourse it's clone mice.

I've been through the same frustrations. My G502 started double-clicking, and then the Razer Viper had scroll issues. I eventually switched to the PowerColor Alphyn AM10 and it's been solid for me. No double-clicks, no scroll wheel glitches, and the build feels reliable. It’s wireless but you can still charge it, and the polling rates and sensor perform great even in fast-paced games. Definitely worth a look if you're done with Logitech and Razer.

Depends the price you’re getting I suppose but I really like the Razor Viper for a good budget mouse. But the best mouse IMO is the Logitech Superlight 2

Viper with its straight design i would say. Resistance on all directions will be equal.

Personally, I'll go with one of the following: Logitech g304/305 or g502, Razer Orochi or Viper, Attack Shark X3, VXE R1, Fantech Aria XD7 (Currently using this)

I find that interesting. I had a string of G502s fail after just a couple months of use . I switched to a Razer Viper and have had basically zero issues in the couple years I’ve had it.

I find that interesting. I had a string of G502s fail after just a couple months of use . I switched to a Razer Viper and have had basically zero issues in the couple years I’ve had it.

I find that interesting. I had a string of G502s fail after just a couple months of use . I switched to a Razer Viper and have had basically zero issues in the couple years I’ve had it.

Check out [prosettings](https://prosettings.net/lists/league-of-legends/) They mostly detail stuff for CS and Valorant pros where peripheral changes are a more popular topic. So the league list isn't exhaustive and not 100% up to date. As with other games, variants of the Razer Viper and Logitech G Pro dominate the list. But the G703, G903, and Deathadder also make appearances. Niche lightweight brands like Vaxeee and Finalmouse that have made inroads in CS and Valorant don't have much traction in league.

Unless I'm mistaken isn't the "Faker edition" of the v3 more similar to the v2 in some aspects? Also the drama of him being the guy on every death adder box, getting a signature edition, then switching to the viper because of wrist issues, then switching back to the deathadder? If I am remembering my insane Faker mouse timeline correctly?

usually any optical mice the optical mech click will never break before the rest of the mouse even with gateron/kailhua optical switches. I have a cheap shitty razer viper I got for $25 with optical mouse click and my issue is the scroll wheel is breaking.

Its good performance it's just razer build quality.

I'd say the viper

Well, I guess it's horses for courses. I tried the Viper, and I had really high hopes for the Corsair Scimitar Elite, but I really couldn't handle the software - I'm not one for all that rainbow unicorn shit and both Synapse and iCue seemed intent on destroying my minimalist colour scheme, as well as being almost impossible to consistently program macros to the buttons. At least with LGHUB, even though we all curse it, when it works it just works, and I found the SteelSeries software tolerable.

I have relatively bigger hands, and yeah I hold it near the same way. I am using g502 and viper, g502 is simply for work, it has many buttons, and viper is only because it is light...(I use gpro also)

Both are solid mice, just depends how much you value wireless vs wired. I will say, the older Viper shape is more similar to the Taipan. The Logitech Pro is more of a potato. I think both have buttons on both sides, as the older g pro had ones you could insert.

Great writeup. Mine arrived yesterday. It will be replacing my VV3P as I like the ergo shape of the DAV4P more. The improved battery life @ 1000Hz is a very welcomed change as well. I find myself charging my Viper every 4-5 days. The skates/glide on the V4 is far more glidier than my V3 as well.

You could get the razer viper for 1.9k but do not buy razer deathadder v2x, I bought it a few months ago and it's been a horrible experience. The mouse disconnects randomly both with 2.4hz and bluetooth connection.

Razer Viper is available on Flipkart for 1.9k Definitely the best mouse you could get from a decent brand with 2 years warranty. It has mechanical switches which last longer than optical switches.

To anyone shopping for a new mouse right now: Don't just blindly look at #1 and buy that. While there are objective details that make one mouse better than another, there are also very important subjective concerns. The Superlight is a phenomenal mouse on paper, for example, but my hand simply can't stand the shape of it. For the longest time I also felt I didn't like Razer's products, but it's actually their Viper that finally ended my search for a mouse. To that point, you probably should try to resist the temptation to swear allegiance to any particular brand. These companies improve (and degrade) over time. This is pretty good advice for shopping in the tech world in general, honestly, and you'll see in the comments that a lot of people struggle with it lol

Viper is nice. I liked the form of the deathadder myself. It's still superlight and responsive. Just felt a little nicer to my hand.

What mice are those you bought? I have a Viper lately and it still works for me after a year and a half, now I'm afraid it will stop working

What mice are those you bought? I have a Viper lately and it still works for me after a year and a half, now I'm afraid it will stop working

What mice are those you bought? I have a Viper lately and it still works for me after a year and a half, now I'm afraid it will stop working

Speaking of my favorite mouse of all time, I was just wondering when they were going to release a new model. Personally, I've only had the chroma version malfunction. Now I just wish they would make it slightly smaller and slightly lighter, nothing drastic. I own almost everyone except I believe the very first one of two they were way too big for my hand.

Razer 8k , with grip tape