Razer - Viper V2 Pro

If you liked the Model O but also liked the Basilisk shape (and you’ve got bigger hands), I’d decide first if you want to stay ambi/lightweight or go ergo again. For a Model O–style upgrade around ~100€, Razer Viper V2 / V3 or Endgame Gear XM2we are super safe picks for FPS. If you want that Basilisk-ish comfy ergo feel for big hands, look at Razer DeathAdder V3 or Logitech G502 X if you still want extra buttons and a similar vibe to the Basilisk. Also, if you’re not sure on shape, [Gripyx](https://gripyx.com) and Eloshapes are really handy for comparing mice by size/shape.

i’ll be buying the v3 viper DL edition. i have the V2 and i love it

Started with Zebronics cheap ass mouse > Redgear A20 > Logitech G102 > Razer Viper Mini > Viper 8Khz > Viper V2 pro > Viper V3 Pro > Razer Cobra currently.

I went Viper mini > Viper v2 pro > Cobra Pro, and I gotta say, I love Cobra! That extra weight is not an issue for me and instead of waiting for some V3 pro discount, I’ll stick with Cobra for some time, as it’s basically wireless Viper mini I always wanted, but I would spare that useless RGB

Yeah, shape and coating is important for sure. Even though the shape of the D2pro is slightly worse for me (but very comparable) and the coating absoluteley sucks compared to the Zowie, I'm still better playing with it. I just dislike the feel of something heavy. For me it's just that I need to hold the mice a tiny bit stronger than usual and that impedes my accuracy. I'm gripping very very light usually, the less my fingertips are pressed, the more feel I have. That's just my reasoning for it. That's the reason why I perform way better with grip tape, but I don't use it because I don't like the feel and only play recreationally once in a while. My favourite coating was the one of the Viper V2 pro I had. Felt good for work but grip wasn't bad either. The scroll wheel sucked though... I remember an era where I put weights into my Roccat Kone XTD and Logitech G9, but the moment I tried a G Pro Ultralight I couldn't go back. Just a personal preference, but a slightly less comfortable shape is easier to adjust too for me than 30g more.

From experience, probably Sora v2, Viper v2 pro

If you want the same shape, get the Viper V2 Pro. If you want to try a new shape, get the Viper V3 Pro. 

You can pick up something like a Viper v2 Pro for $60 these days, and you can add an 8K dongle afterwards if desired. Comes with 1K mini dongle.

Razer is switching over to barely visible logos as they eliminate RGB. Can barely see the sneks on my Viper v2 Pro.

[https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=razer-viper-v2-pro-vs.-razer-viper-v3-pro](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=razer-viper-v2-pro-vs.-razer-viper-v3-pro) It will make a difference if you palm grip. If you claw or fingertip, which will keep the palm above the mouse, then it will feel very much the same. I know, because I went to my local Razer store and tried all the current mice. I have no urge to upgrade my Viper v2 Pro. Plus the Viper v3 Pro is firmware locked to only use that specific model of dongle. It cannot pair to the retail Hyperpolling Dongle or Mouse Dock Pro. So if it breaks or is lost, prepare to shell out $45+ for a new one from 3rd party sellers, as Razer does not sell them. (Same for Viper Mini SE) While I was at the store, I picked up a retail Hyperpolling dongle to use with the Vv2P and it's working just fine. Liking the 2K polling feel in game. So I will be using the MDP with the Cobra Pro / Basilisk v3 Pro, and the HPD with the Viper v2 Pro. As for the wheel / encoder, try opening it up. You will probably find that you have a bunch of debris wrapped around the wheel stem, like hair and such. Did this for a friend, and fixed his wheel issues.

I have the Deathadder v2 Pro, Deathadder v3 Pro, Cobra Pro, Cobra Hyperspeed, and Viper v2 Pro. (And the Kysona Jupiter Ultra as my Viper v3 Pro clone) AMA

I am rather impressed with what you get with the Jupiter Ultra. The shape is slightly tweaked vs the Viper v3, with a slightly more flared backside, which allows my pinky to lock in better. The Omron opticals have a good feel to them and quieter than the Raesha opticals Razer uses, wheel is on par with other mice I've used, and side buttons are snappy. Comes with 8K dongle, and in Metallic Red like the Sentinel, all for $60. I find the height on it to be better for palming, tho I still enjoy the OG Viper lower hump. When I want to fingertip, Viper v2 Pro or Cobra Hyperspeed. I use the DPI button as Ability 4 in Diablo IV, which the Vv2P lacks. Also checking out the optical encoder for the wheel. I use the Cobra H with a Mouse Dock Pro at 2K. The DAv3P is for when my hand is being a tard (I have a neuralmuscular disorder) and my hand feels more comfortable with the ergo shape. I use this with a Hyperpoll Dongle at 2K. I wrist aim on hard mats, both glass (Atlas) and polycarbonate (Firefly v2 Pro)

Don't bother. The scroll wheel is terrible. I've taken mine apart, cleaned out and still not working - so think it's the encoder. They're notorious for the scroll wheel issues.

Was in the same exact boat as you, but I couldn’t get the hang of the Aerox 9 at all so I just switched over to a razer viper v2 :(