Razer - Viper V3 HyperSpeed

Würde die Hyperspeed nehmen. Kostet weniger als halb so viel wie die Pro. Damit sich die Pro rechnet müsste die doppelt so gut sein was Blödsinn ist. Das gesparte Geld dann besser in andere Upgrades stecken.

Was ein Quatsch. Die Batterie sitzt genau mittig was optimal ist.

V3 user here, fking love it 10/10

Viper V3 Hyperspeed sounds great but remember, if you remove, replace the skates, you will void warranty.

I have viper v3 Hyperspeed with double aa adapter using triple aaa. Idk man i am really happy with it, coming from lamzu Atlantis mini and steelseries rival 3 + prime. This is my goat personally.

20x10 hand measurement here. I had the same issue and have the same two mice lol. I ended up going with the viper v3 pro and pretty happy with it. Middle finger still sticks out if I go full palm grip but palm/claw works really well. Oddly enough, I also have the Deathadder v3 hyperspeed and feels better than full sized DAV3. The size and weight allows me to have full control over it for really fast movement. Wanted to try the Superlight Dex but never got around to it. Might be worth a look if the two I mentioned don’t interest you. I also have the viper v3 hyperspeed (missed return window). A little heavier but not bad with battery mod and has really nice mechanical switches.

I dont even think they make mice in the 85g range anymore but for your budget and shape preferences I would probably go for the Death adder V3 Hyperspeed, if you wanted to try a symmetrical instead the viper v3 hyperspeed is around the same price.

You can turn the RGB off. The v3 hyperspeed has 1 dpi button, is much heavier than the cobra (needs batteries) and has its sensor to the front instead of center. I honestly wouldnt recommend a mouse less just because of the uncentered sensor. 

https://preview.redd.it/sefvntquubuf1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f0ca9911574d74bd3540f4deb88cd7bc3a8263c Using the Viper v3 hyperspeed currently, its decent but too much hassle for the batteries. Imo v3 pro is definitely worth the price difference

I play with the 3rd one and honeslty really really like it, its smooth, has a nice feeling in your hand and comforatble clicking

I got a Razer Viper v3 hyperspeed and I am pretty ok with it, kinda loud clicks but I think I can change them

Jup hab die geholt und finde die hammer ,aufeinmal aimgott geworden😂 hat sich echt gelohnt für 65€

I have viper v3 hyperspeed. Uses AA battery that goes between 30 40. Build qualit is nice, mouse is very comfortable.

The two mice are honestly super similar. In daily use you will not be able to tell a difference and so it just comes down to if you want certain features like rotation tool or dynamic sensitivity and if you like the shape. Technically on paper the DAV3 Pro has the better sensor (PAW3950) a bit worse battery life and is a marginally bigger. Based on the implementation through the DAV3 Hyperspeed appears to have lower latency and a better tuned older sensor (PAW3395/3399) but its such a minor difference you wont be able to tell. Personally I went with the HyperSpeed since it was cheaper and I actually used rotation tool and dynamic sensitivity so I could spend a bit extra on the Hyperpolling Dongle.

The Viper V3 Hyper and DAV3 Hyper aren't really the same family of mice anymore. The DAV3 Hyper honestly is a DAV3 Pro Mini as they have forgone the replaceable AA that was the trademark of the hyperspeed line and the wireless only connectivity. I personally preferred the ergonomics of the DAV3 H more. The weight was better controlled and it glides nicely. I actually owned the Viper 3 Hyper for a short time a year ago and wasn't very pleased in my 1-2 weeks with it. The weight was all in the rear and you could honestly feel it. The hyper speed dongle honestly isn't worth if for most folks. Drains your battery faster for a slight bit of smoothness at the very limits of play. Since I do mostly productivity I just leave it on 1000hz polling.

Viper V3 Hyperspeed, no cables, no muss, no RGB, simple design.

S Tier: Zaopin Z2, Deathadder V3 Wired, Viper V3 Hyperspeed, Basilisk V3 A Tier: Cobra, Glorious Model I, VXE R1 Pro B Tier: Rival 3, Steelseries Prime, Glorious Model O, Dareu A950 C Tier: Logitech G203 Lightsync D Tier: Glorious Model D 2 Pro 1Khz

For Basilisk V3; its it's weight, sensor and skates. Also it's the most comfortable one. For Deathadder V3, it's everything. Shape, sensor, skates, coating... For Zaopin Z2, it's the same as Deathadder but there is only one downside for me and it's the software. For Viper V3 Hyperspeed, it lasts longer than my any other mice because it uses batteries and has a good shape even though I'm a palm grip user.

Zaopin Z2, Deathadder V3, Razer Viper V3 Hyperspeed.

There’s no such thing as the “best mouse” because it’s such a subjective topic. What might be considered “end game” for me could be something you absolutely hate. All I can say is that my daily driver right now is the Razer Viper V3 HyperSpeed, and I really enjoy using it. It runs on a AA battery, so I don’t have to worry about charging it. When the battery runs out, swapping it takes just a few seconds. The build quality is great, the sensor tracks perfectly, and the buttons feel solid, so it’s definitely worth checking out. That said, most well-known brands like Razer, Logitech, SteelSeries, etc. offer excellent mice in a wide range of prices. I’d recommend picking one that looks comfortable to you. Think about your grip style—fingertip, claw, palm, or anything in between—since performance across these brands is usually very reliable.

Kinda up to you. You can, but if you’re happy with this mouse, then you don’t have to. I’ve got a Viper V3 Hyperspeed and it’s been serving me great. A friend of mine still has the original Viper Ultimate, and it’s also still holding up really well.

Razer viper v3 hyperspeed, uses a AA cell, very good shape and has less price than v3 pro. I don't like very light mouse for chill games just a nice wireless is fine, also g305 is a egg shaped mouse, works even if dropped from table. Or just VV3 Pro if you have the money for it.

I tried all of these and ended up keeping the Razer Viper V3 HyperSpeed.. (I use it with an adaptor to use a smaller battery) so it's very lightweight (and cheap, only 65€).

I have a more updated list here: * Incott Ghero Pro: Solid Mouse that feels like a GPX Ergo (or NP-01 Clone) and is extremely solidly build while staying price wise at 50$ * VGN Dragonfly F1: Solid orignial shape with a larger rear hump on the end that curves more inwards before coming out at the front, very safe shape at 46$ * ATK Blazing Sky F1: Shaped akin to a Sora V2 it's got a much larger rear hump with substantial curves as it comes into the front while going thinner towards it with lowered clicks. Is 38g and has a 3950 sensor but is usually a full 70$ * Darmoshark M3S: Solid Viper styled shape with those same bell curves, usually around 40$ * Zaopin Z2: Solid ergo light with a much smaller ergo feel yet still has a nice rounded bump and curve to it for the ergo feel at 50$ * Endgame Gear OP1 Wired: This is what a lot of mice are based on as EGG has some of the better mice on market in terms of quality and built and software. It's one of the best mice you can buy. It is wired but if you don't care about 4k or 8k it's perfectly fine at 45$ * VXE R1: Nearly identical to the Pulsar X2V2 it's got a super solid feel and the pro model has a better coating and overall well implemented sensor. Considered the king of the budgets it's 50$ for the Pro and as low as 20$ for not pro. * VXE Mad R: Identical to the mouse above in shape its another X2V2 clone perfect at 38g great for all grip styles, the Major verision has a 3950 sensor and is 45$ for normal, 63$ for Major, if you can grab this over the normal R1. * Incott HPC02M: is a X2 clone with supersolid build quality and the ability to swap the switches with ease. 55$ * PureTrak Valor: Clone of the GPX but with 3395 and USB-C that usually sells for sub 50$ * Incott G23: GPX clone with hotswappable switches at 50$ * Phlyina S450: HTS+ Clone with solid build quality and a really good mouse. They are working on a 38g version and have a 4k version around 40-50$ * Scyrox V8: Sora V2 clone at 38g with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 70$ * Attack Shark R6: Another Sora V2 Clone with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 50$. * ATK Blazing Sky X1: Viper V3 clone with 3950 and solid build quality right at the 70$ price range. * Incott G24: Zowie EC2 Clone that's hotswap and solid weight can be found for 70$ * Mchose L7: 38g with a shape somewhere between the Lamzu Atlantis and X2V2. It has flatter sides but still a larger rear curve to lock in slightly better than something like the Mad R while still feeling very premium. Basic model has 3395 for 45$ and pro is closer to 60$ for 3950. * Lethal LA-1: Basically a larger OP1. Same kind of curves but a larger overall feel, due to having some very small issues with the batch and to compete with budget mice it can now be found for 30$. * Razer Viper V3 Hyperspeed: While a bit heavier than most at 83g and using a AA battery, It still boasts a solid sensor and performance with a shape that people adore for 70$ * Scyrox V8 and V6: solid Sora clone and HTS+ clone both at around 40g with full 8k and solid internals. Very good overall and some of the best budget out there. 70$

I've always played and never had issues with fos mice, usually ambidextrous but I would be willing to try a dedicated right hander. Currently on Razer Viper V3 hyperspeed and it's nice if you've got batteries on hand.

The aerox 3 if you don't mind the holes. But the viper v3 hyperspeed is pretty good but it is on the heavier side.

im not trying to shill for razer but i have a viper v3 hyperspeed that is still perfectly fine after two years now. am i the exception or is it not that bad? is it likely to fail soon?

im not trying to shill for razer but i have a viper v3 hyperspeed that is still perfectly fine after two years now. am i the exception or is it not that bad? is it likely to fail soon?

im not trying to shill for razer but i have a viper v3 hyperspeed that is still perfectly fine after two years now. am i the exception or is it not that bad? is it likely to fail soon?

You can look at the Razer viper v3 hyperspeed. I play on ps4 and it’s doing good for me.

non pro viper wireless, razer deathadder, i'd argue g305 lightspeed, xtrfy m42, wired zowie, superlight 1, glorious wired, some lgg mice, some vaxee mice, endgame gear op1k. All these are like 25-80€ if my quick currency version is right. Some of these are wireless too. Especially if you snipe a sale you can get a really good deal. in "top tier mice" I mean the ones that are basically the same shape as the "standards", superlight 2, viper v3 pro, deathadder v3 pro, etc. Obviously the tech is a bit worse, but we were hitting insane shots on mice 15+ years ago, even the worse mice are 100% good enough. 4k/8k polling doesnt change that much, and thats the major sell of the more expensive mice. I've managed to pick up qck+ for like 10€ on average the last few years, always on sale somewhere. Otherwise a sale on a lgg saturn (standard), zowie gsr (any version you prefer). Qck might not be the longest lasting, but it's usually on a good sale so you never really have to fork out more than AT MOST 40€ a year on it if you're really picky with pad and swap it 4x a year, but most ppl usually keep it for 6-24 months atleast.

That's the viper v3 hyperspeed (their naming convention is so dumb) The DAV3 HS has a built in battery and can confirm the weight is ~55g

I got the Viper V3 Hyperspeed for $63 USD. The only thing is I needed to pay 10 extra for import tariffs (US to Mexico). Maybe you could get one. If not, check Mchose A5 Pro Max or A7 Pro.

V3 or the v3 hyperspeed maybe you can try the vaxee E1 or the goat ec2-cw

Oh it's also good it has a forward sensor position like your mm712, bigger size and nice shape for claw.

alright then the VV3 hyperspeed will be a step up in terms of size just so you know the shape will be different.

Gl I hope you like the shape of the vv3

going from a viper mini to hyperspeed v3 feels good for now ngl only 1 problem weight..but in the time period of me changing mouse i took an 100gm mouse so i got used to it..

I feel like everyone's main gripe with the deathadder v3 was it was a touch too large. I was really hoping they would have made the v4 a little smaller. I move the v3 hyper speed but I really wish they would make a v4 pro mini and make it the same size as the v3 hyper speed, as I want the same sensor, wireless dongle as the v4 pro, but in the v3 hyper speed size

V3 hyper speed 😉

I used to avoid razer but my girlfriend got me a v3 hyperspeed that's lasted a few years so far

I used to avoid razer but my girlfriend got me a v3 hyperspeed that's lasted a few years so far

I used to avoid razer but my girlfriend got me a v3 hyperspeed that's lasted a few years so far

Did you end up picking up the razer viper v3? Or what did you decide on? My hands are similar to yours and I just picked it up. I tried out couple different ones that are more suitable for my hand size and I know the razer is for medium/large hands but I am mostly a relaxed claw/palm grip so I think it works. I like the way it fills my palm and the positioning of the side keys.

Get an all black one, black viper v3, hitscan hyperlight, etc

Of course you can use a gaming mouse for work. I never use productivity mice. Op1 and gpx are super comfy for me, work wise. Viper v3 will be good too.

Superlight 2 or Razer Viper V3 Pro. Seriously, just get one of these and try it. They're the safest option and what most e-sports professionals use. Think Counterstrike 2 and Valorant. Of course they work great for everything but there's a reason the pros use these. The Razer Basilisk V3 is the most comfortable mouse I've ever used but yeah, it's heavy. 110g heavy. The Razer Viper V3 I just got is about half that.

this mouse is by far the best mouse I have ever owned for gaming Wait nvm I thought this was the viper v3 I own both and think the viper is better for competitive titles 

Viper v3 is the best one by far

Razer Viper V3 at 8k, Samsung Odyssey G7 2k monitor, Glsswrks Hana pad, and Titan Evo chair so even when I get clapped I can at least lean back when I cry.

If you like the g pro shape upgrade to gpx 2, if you want something different go vv3 both are good mice

Makes me glad I bought the viper v3 last week on sale

I have used deathadder v2x hyperspeed, Please dont buy it if u wanna play cs or any other FPS game, go for viper v3. Hyper x mouse u mentioned have some pretty bad reviews

I have large hands too and I also end up holding the Superlight at an off angle due to discomfort. After many mice, I realised the issue is width. The Superlight ticks all the boxes except for the narrower width between where you rest your thumb and pinky. Try something wider like a Viper v3, Lamzu Maya X, (if you're willing to try unusual Chinese brands) Mchose K7 Ultra or Mad G Max. I personally use all 4 of these with far more comfort than the Superlight. If you want to try ergo, you can't really go wrong with the latest deathadder V4 pro.

I play shooters at 1400 dpi minimum. I tried playing at 1k polling rate with my Razer Viper V3 and didn't like it.    Thanks for the reply

Viper V3 breaks so easy.

Yeah almost all valorant pros use wireless mice, as well as almost every other video game professional on MnK. If you can afford it, the Viper v3 is one of the best mice rn in many people’s opinions. I think if you prefer a wide mouse than you could maybe be into the deathadder v3 pro.

That's the reason I bought a G502 X even though I got a Viper v3. While you don't need extra buttons on tactical fps like CS, it's literally the exception since most other genres of game do benefit from extra mouses buttons. Even arena shooters do. I'm not asking for Naga clones with 12 side buttons, but I wish we had more high-end options of mouses with 3-4 side buttons instead of 2. It's honestly the perfect middle ground, and contrary to what people think, 2 more side buttons wouldn't make the mouse much heavier.

I like the look of this mouse so much... I need to be happy with my Gengar Viper v3 Oh and I bet the right color grips could look really good on this mouse. I wouldn't throw out the idea of using them. I put yellow esport tiger grips on mine and it looks better than stock imo.. plus esport tiger grips have the best texture I've tried

Should go to Mousereview or some other mouse-specific subreddit for more expertise. Here people tend to suggest things like G502/X for large hands: G502 is NOT suitable for large hands, it's a small mouse as far as grip goes: The largeness comes from flaring and edge-detail that won't affect how it feels in the hand. For what it's worth: The Deathadder is probably the best shape for large hands. But the Essential model is seriously gimped and is practically a office mouse with Razer's styling. And the newer version of the gaming-specific Deathadder are of a slightly different shape: Still good for large hands, but it's no longer exactly the same. The Viper V3 and G Pro X Superlight are medium-to-large shapes too, but very universal. It's unlikely you'll be able to hold them by fully enveloping it with your entire hand if you have very large hands. They are more like "claw grip" shapes. I have large hands and i do like both of those: They are very similar in shape. I personally think the Viper V3 is slightly better and less generic. But another option for that particular category is the Maya X: Also a very similar shape to both. But sometimes cheaper. All that being said: It's not necessary to hold a mouse by palming it. A lot of people prefer different grip styles, and a lot of shapes can work with a lot of hand shapes. I personally don't mind the Aerox 3 at all, but it's small enough for it to be basically a fingertip-only mouse. Which can still be very good: Fingers are more accurate at small adjustments than the wrist is (and you should avoid using the wrist to do that due to carpal tunnel anyway.) Either way, the general knowledge regarding mice in this place is questionable, you can even extend this to me.

Hi, out of your options you mentioned I'd personally go for the RAZER VV3, but if u look for a budget mouse under 100$ there are so many out there. search for smaller names such as VXE, ATK, scyrox, attack shark etc. for ultra budget I reccommend the VXE R1 and if u have a larger budget I'd suggest the R1 pro and even the MAD R MAJOR. there is also scyrox V8 which is very good and simillar to the R1, also I've heard a lot of people hear use the attack shark X3 which also good but less than the others. The diverse on the market is massive with a lot of answers to your needs, you can filter the options for you by mentioning your grip and hand size, also, go to [eloshapes.com](http://eloshapes.com) to see all the diffrences between each mouse. good luck finding your best option for you.

My Superlight 2 lasted 2 months before the scroll wheel started glitching out. The open wheel thing let's crap get in and it's a problem. There are ways to clean it, but eventually it comes back. Bought the viper v3, battery doesn't last as long, but it has been rock solid for a while now.

Viper mini g305 g502 viper v3 hyperspeed are all good options personally viper v3 pro is the most appealing

Went from superlight 2 to the viper v3 and there’s no going back. It’s the best mouse I’ve used so far. The clicks are crisp and slightly stiffer than logi which I like.

Imo viper v3 is the perfect size for you, anything smaller will force you into more of an aggresive claw grip. If you actually want to feel more comfortable you could try out some ergo shapes that are similar size to the viper v3

viper v3 is a bit large, also don't pay more than $100 for one. [op1](https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/gaming-mice/op1-8k) is pretty good(but wired), [hitscan hyperlight](https://hitscan.com/products/hyperlight) is sort of a smaller viper v3, and [zywoo mini](https://www.pulsar.gg/collections/zywoo/products/zywoo-the-chosen-mouse-mini?variant=46697971974398) is the latest and greatest.

I was a multi diamond on apex with a few vt plat scores and gold complete on a g502 and a 5-6 year old steelseries qck… switched to a viper v3 and artisan hien, made master rank in apex and im 3 scores off plat complete in vt. Having a consistent glide was the main benefit of switching though, my old pad had some spots which would slow the mouse to a near stop.

If you're willing to go outside of your comfort zone with a different brand I'd try the OP1 8k from endgame gear, even though it's wired it's seriously an amazing mouse. But if you're trying to stick with those brands then for Logitech I'd go with a superlight, even the first generation still holds up well today. And for Razer I love the Deathadder v3 as I grew up with that shape, but if you want a symmetrical mouse then a Viper V3

If budget isn't a problem for you, just buy a Viper V3 and call it a day.

Never measured my hands but they are small. a viperv3 is huge for me

Razer viper v3 series will be great i got the same issue and it was perfect for my hand

I have 16x9cm hands and my s.o. has similar hand shape. My hand is relax claw and I was a tilt gripper coming from ec2a. Honestly any mouse is doable if your grip feels the most comfortable. Some say you need the perfect mouse to be the best but you should just go for the one where your hand feels right. My recommendation would be in shape: relax claw: Maya x or gpx or viper V3. Go for Chinese brand alternative if you're okay, just listing shapes. Other suggests for small hand but I personally find them uncomfortable. I tried all 3. Atlantis mini/Maya/op 1k. Op1k most likely better for bigger hand than mine so don't write it off. It just feels like a gpx but more oriented in the back. I use gpx and finalmouse starlight while my s.o uses viper V3 pro. Deathadder pro isn't bad either if you like to palm, I find hyper speed to be too small.

Why not viper v3? i had Basilisk v3 pro and i smashed it on the mouse pad and the wheel got stuck, i had Death Adder v3 as well and the scroll wheel was "jumping" while i was scrolling pages down the page jumped up, now i have the viper v3 and has no flaws after 6 months.

i’ve bought the g pro, superlight, viper v3 all on amazon and they’ve been refurbished so got them very cheap and they been champs no issues

I have all or most of the mice mentioned in your post, and similarly have had issues finding a mouse that had a right side that felt normal. The XM2w caused my hand to cramp (even tho I played awesome with it lol) The E1 is the best overall mouse I've ever used imho. The shape is second to none in my opinion. I have the ec2-dw, the pulsar super light size 1 & 2ES) and many other ergos that aren't nearly as comfy. The cons to the E1 are - the buttons have a specific bounce/spring to them, so there is a tiny bit of rattle if you slam your mouse often - the scroll wheel is fine - the side buttons have a bit of a corner to them, (I just sand it down) I'm currently switching between the E1, the Viper V3, the Zowie S2-dw Oh, and the Sora is an awesome mouse with a great shape. It's god a cool internal structure that was fun to mod and get the weight super low. I missed having the curved finger grooves (so I added my own) but overall it's an awesome mouse that I mained for months before I got into ergos. The pulsar super light is awesome, but had specific curves (along the right side and front) where I never felt 100% comfy. I have the v3ES and the v3 size 1, and both were a bit off for me. And I also didn't love the raesha optical switches.... Best scroll wheels tho! The XM2w is certainly the best built mouse of these three. If there was a version that didn't have such an aggressive inward curve along the right side I would likely be maining this mouse. That and I wish it had finger grooves... It's so solid tho... My personal rankings: 1. E1 2. Sora 3. Xlite (does the v4 still use Raesha optical switches??) 4. XM2w (but if you like the shape, its potentially #1)

Yeah, I worried about the new pulsar mice cause if that. My deathadder v3 had bad sideplay, my viper v3 doesn't have any really

Which one is best is completely subjective. Razer viper v3 is a good choice though; Logitech superlight as well; Pulsar has good mice too; I dont really fw zowie; I’m currently using a Lamzu Maya X and I like it a lot.

It depends on your hand size and preferred grip style, but the safest bets are the Razer Viper v3 and the latest G Pro. I am using a modded Op1 8k, which works excellent for claw, even with big hands, if that suits you! To investigate further, check out Rocketjumpninja’s website, YouTube channel, and the YouTuber Boardzy. They are both great reviewers.

I’ve had this same issue! When transitioning to the razer viper v3. This is particularly bad when I have to play fps games or games with precise movement. I found that the razer orochi v2 is perfect for this. And use my viper for more casual games without need for tracking,control and flicking like war thunder and poe2. And use the orochi v2 for games like bf6

I love my viper v3 too, but has anyone else had issues with their scroll wheel after some time?

I mean Dav3 and vpv3 are both very reliable mice. I rarely hear any issues with them, have no issues with mine and there's a ton of praise for them. Now old razer mice... Yeah they weren't reliable.

Small mice hurt my hands, so do symmetrical ones. This is perfect for my relaxed claw grip. Tried the Viper V3 and it did not improve my aim, only made my hands hurt, and stuck with my DAV3 Pro

I’ve had all of these- Viper 3 by far.

I bought 2 razer viper v3, a wired and a wireless. I still use the wireless one, but the wired one was having tracking issues and the wireless one the scroll wheel was bad out of the box. I'll be in a game and my gun or tools randomly swap themselves. Simultaneously the most expensive mice I've ever bought and the cheapest mice I've ever bought.

I bought 2 razer viper v3, a wired and a wireless. I still use the wireless one, but the wired one was having tracking issues and the wireless one the scroll wheel was bad out of the box. I'll be in a game and my gun or tools randomly swap themselves. Simultaneously the most expensive mice I've ever bought and the cheapest mice I've ever bought.

I bought 2 razer viper v3, a wired and a wireless. I still use the wireless one, but the wired one was having tracking issues and the wireless one the scroll wheel was bad out of the box. I'll be in a game and my gun or tools randomly swap themselves. Simultaneously the most expensive mice I've ever bought and the cheapest mice I've ever bought.

My viper v3 broke and started lagging really bad so I got a wired deathadder V3 and I'm deadass moving different. I got larger hands tho so idk if you'd like it or not

I went from a Logitech superlight to the Viper v3. Both are great, I personally like the Viper more, not that the Logitech is a bad mouse.

as a 6’7” gamer myself with massive hands, i’ve honestly found the g pro super light 2 surprising comfortable, but something a little wider for our fat fingers the razer viper v3 was very comfortable when i had it

Viper V3 is absolute ass for the price. One of the most expensive mouses on the market and I have random jitters every couple of days and so (dont worry, I dont have MATYS mousepad, that is not the issue) also for the price you are paying it sometimes just sets default settings for no reason. F razer.

I've been maining the cloud & viper v3 for a bit now. The real hidden gem for me? Santali S1O. Perfect blend of a nicely contoured sides with ring finger ledge (like the cloud) plus narrow hourglass grip width (like viper v3)

I’ve tried viper v3 and superlight 2 and i went with the v3, it felt more precise and better clicks. But the first rule when choosing a mouse is that shape is the king, so you must check what you are more comfortable and then go into things like sensor, clicks etc

While this doesn't apply to everybody, in general lighter is better. While they are sort of overpriced for what they are, the top 2 (in my opinion) are the Logitech superlight and Razer viper v3. They're both very light, wireless, have a good sensor and more. The viper is slightly lighter than the superlight, but you can't go wrong with either of them tbh. But that's just touching the surface tho, there are so many other factors like what weight you personally like, your grip, hand size and much more.

Viper v3, Key 83 mid

If you want to try a different shape then you can try some other mice, but in terms of specs/performance you won't really find anything better than viper 3

Same is happening with mine now. Done with Razer

Depends on your grip, I feel comfortable playing claw so I rather smaller mice like lamzu and Wlmouse. I bought a razer viper v3 not long ago and it’s a pretty damn good mouse but feels slightly too large for claw, would be perfect for palm grip

Thanks - I understand since I used to play quite a bit back in the day. I wouldn't want a cumbersome mouse + low sens if I am constantly 1-tick prayer flicking either. I would recommend a slightly bigger mouse if you feel the same issues with stability on it. Try something like the Viper V3, I adjusted well to the shape and use it in games where I need to flick as well. It gives me slightly less accuracy with flicking compared to the ULX but it is much more comfortable to use over longer sessions and when I need stability in aiming. Another general tip with grip, if you are trying to get a more stable feeling with wrist flicking, try moving the mouse further back into your palm, to the point where if you move vertically down, it doesn't pinch the base of your wrist into the mousepad, so you have unobstructed vertical movement. After getting used to this feeling, concentrate on using your fingers for smaller flicks, and only using your wrist movements when you actually need to move the cursor further than that.

Yeah I know what youre talking about, i wouldnt want to use low sens when im trying to one tick prayer flick either. In the instance where you feel you are lacking stability but still need something lightweight, try a slightly bigger mouse. Best options are honestly the mainstream which are Viper v3 or pro x superlight. My regular rotation is ULX, VV3 and OP1WE

waizowl ogm pro, beast x max, gpx, viper v3, ec-1 dw

Tbh, I can't tell the difference between the 3395 (older sensor), variations of the 3950, HERO 2 (superlight 2), and the sensor they used for the razer vv3. Same goes for polling rate. The only difference I notice is that my mouse dies quicker using 8k polling vs 1k polling. That being said, just get the mouse that fits ur hands the best. That's the best mouse. Coming from someone's who's immortal 3 in valorant and face it level 8, using a 360 hz monitor.

If you like the current shape you are on then go with a Superlight 2. If there is something you don’t like about that shape then the Viper V3 is a great pick. I prefer the shape over the Superlight myself.

Gpx if you’re not price sensitive and wanting a safe option that’ll let you experiment with different grip styles. Viper v3 is a solid pick too with a better sensor, coating (get white), and weight but has a slightly more restrictive shape and could be on the larger size for your hands. Tons of ergonomic options too if you prefer that - I’ve tried the ec2 and thought it was super comfy. Though after buying like 9 more mice I still perform the best with the gpx lol. Everything is pretty good nowadays and battery life is great. I recommend playing on 2k polling for the best blend of performance and battery life.

i feel like nobody uses large mice anymore, but rather they just palm smaller mice like gpx and ec2, razer vv3 razer Dav3hyperspeed. Niko the only one using dav3, even spinx switched to zowie ec2 now

Viper v3 is undoubtedly best here, but a lot of CS players really like the Logitech X pro Superlight 2. Personally use the viper v3.

I'm 22x11 and main the Viper V3 and Keychron M7, those options may work better for you!

Get a viper v3 or if you want a smaller similar version of the viper get a hitscan hyperlight.

I would say the viper v3 would come more close to the harpe, superlight will feel completely different. But even though the harpe and viper look nearly identical on eloshapes, i would prefer the harpe over the viper

I have a few. For ambi, it's Viper v3 and XM2w. For ergo it's EC2 and G502.

Gonna directly oppose the other guy here. I'm a fingertip guy with 19.5x10 hands and have come through trial and error to entirely oppose this sentiment that smaller = better. I have to imagine people who parrot that sentiment aren't speaking from personal experience and just forwarding an opinion that isn't theirs. I've tried every tiny (full-size) mouse you can imagine and every single time I came back to the Viper V3. What I found is that while you might want a *short* mouse for fingertip, you still want it to be *wide*. A too-skinny mouse creates tension in your grip which leads to shakiness, instability, and possibly pain. There is no advantage to a mouse being skinny - it only hurts you. I've had the best results by getting large, wide mice that weigh as little as possible. My current favorite and only thing to ever dethrone my Viper is the Maya X. I had not tried a fingertip mouse like the Fenrir. I assume they'll have the same issue and just be too skinny, so I've never bothered. If someone made a fingertip grip that was as wide as a Viper or Maya X, I'd try that in a heartbeat.

I also think about the harpe ace 2, my hands are 20x11cm using a relaxed claw do you think the Viper V3 is comparable in Size and feel to it or more the Superlight? I looked it up on Eloshape but a user review would be welcome. Do you know if there is a difference in coating between the white and black version ? I can only order the white one on Amazon to try and refund.

Nice thank you ! That sounds great because i also have mixed feelings about the Viper but overall like the shape, just some minor complains which according to you could fix the harpe. Thanks, i am gonna try the white one out on Amazon.

Viper v3 or superlight 2 have been the best I've used, I'm not much of a razor fan but I do prefer the viper v3 here, i just prefer the way it glides on the pad, makes it feel super responsive, for gaming obviously.

plz give me your hand size mouse grip and budget i will pick you some best or you coud just go to Boarzy youtube chennel some of the best mouse rewie [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opv0Jz9jIxE&ab\_channel=boardzy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opv0Jz9jIxE&ab_channel=boardzy) or just get razer viper v3 or g pro superlight they are good for every grip and hand size have optimal weight one of the best coating ever lasting battery and very nice and light clicks

yes g pro superlight is a cheap and super safe shape any one can use it with any grip if u have mid big to big hands have good waite to start even doe i woud recommend getting to lighter mice as fast as posable but u cant go wrong with razor viper v3 or superlight

Great writeup. Mine arrived yesterday. It will be replacing my VV3P as I like the ergo shape of the DAV4P more. The improved battery life @ 1000Hz is a very welcomed change as well. I find myself charging my Viper every 4-5 days. The skates/glide on the V4 is far more glidier than my V3 as well.

Great writeup. Mine arrived yesterday. It will be replacing my VV3P as I like the ergo shape of the DAV4P more. The improved battery life @ 1000Hz is a very welcomed change as well. I find myself charging my Viper every 4-5 days. The skates/glide on the V4 is far more glidier than my V3 as well.

Listen man, if you’re unsure of your grip and your experience is with a large ergo mice like the basilisk/G502, you’re in for a rabbit hole chase of peripherals. IMO don’t listen to people here telling you your grip is claw relaxed or XYZ, because the truth is that your grip style changes with the mouse if you’re inexperienced. Try safe general shapes, such as the latest ergo ones (pulsar xlite crazy light, Vaxee NP-01S, logitech dex, etc) or general symmetrical ones (logitech superlight, razer viper V3, etc). My best advice is get rid of the notion that you need side buttons and learn to use the keyboard more, it will really open up your options. Second best advice, the Orbital pathfinder is likely the best choice for you right now because it will allow you to try EVERYTHING so that you really learn your grip/style, and it’s also a good quality light mouse. If you can stomach the initial price, it is worth it and probably will save you money long term.

i use the viper v3 from the log superlight 2 and in my opinion it has much smoother and crisp clicking. It also feels better significantly on my palm compared to the potato-like dome on the sl

Just as usual : You aren't giving any useful information about WHAT would be the best pick for you There is no "best mouse of the market" otherwise we would all be using it Hand size, grip style are minimum required for people to give personalized recommendations. Maybe try some of the safest shapes available, GPX2 and Razer Viper V3, for 200€ max then the V3 Pro might be the best choice. But because you don't give information we just can't know if something might suit you better

Try a Logitech g502 or a razor viper v3 huge mice compared to those or even a glorious model D which is the model O but with a bigger hump for more palm coverage

I like my Viper V3

Viper v3 and SteelSeries QCK Speed 😃

Look i used 2 mice in my mac journey. A g pro 1st gen that works flawlessly with mac and has good software and my current daily driver a razer vioer v3 hyperspeed but in order to use that i loaded a profile from a windows machine.

Hey! Having used both mice i highly recommend the Hitscan. Despite the fact that i have a large hand that can even use DAV3 without issue, I prefer the Hitscan's shape to Viper V3's shape. Amazing build quality, decent battery life.

I mean, I have Razer wireless v3 viper and it’s so good that I’m having to relearn league bc the reaction time of my mouse is so much better 😅

I also moved from super light to viper and I also like it more but I think saying the difference is massive is a bit much haha. For me the coating is the real difference maker but if you use grip tape it doesn’t matter which mouse you use

I’ve used it for years and I still like it but I got the viper v3 and I like it a little more. The difference is very small though. For example the coating on the viper is a lot nicer i feel like. But in terms of actual tracking there isn’t much difference

I just got this mouse today and its amazing! i have used the g303 shroud for the past 3,5 years but now i needed to upgrade because mouseclick one stopped working. The past week i have tried Razer viper v3 and logitech g pro superlight 2. The superlights clicks was so loud and the mouse skates was imo not good. The viper v3 was great but it didnt fit my hand and playstyle because it was so long and narrow. Today i got the maya x 8k and this shape really clicked with me. Super nice shape for me and the mouse clicks both sound and feel is super great. The weight is very low as seen above, super easy to use. Im using 2k polling rate in cs and 800dpi with comp mode enabled on the mouse. It was at 100% and now after 3-4 hours its 99%. Very happy with this one:D

I use logitech superlight pro or Razor viper v3 for r6 siege but both expensive af

U are using 1-3-1 like me. Depends on the hand size I recommend u endgame xm2,lamzu maya x,madlions mad g max,razer viper v3(clones - eweadn s9, mchose k7,atk x1). If u prefer back hump for support scyrox v8,mchose l7+ ultra,zowie za 11/12/13 depends on hand size as I said. Check eloshapes and compare/find mouse for u

I love my Zaopin Z1 Pro. Not as comfy as Viper V3, but my aim is better with it and can play more aggressively

We have 2 viper V3s we carry to and use at work. They're light, glide smoothly without being too smooth, don't look like gamer rainbow puke, not wierdly sized or shaped, and batteries last a while.

I'm currently in love with Viper V3 Pro shape and using ATK X1 Pro right now. It's just perfect for me. The only reason to buy new - if life of the battery will become worse. P.S. still hopes that someone will release g100s clone someday

The viper v3 has been out for only a year and it’s a little early in the product cycle for a v4. That shape looks flatter and true to the viper ultimate/v2 pro shape.

the original viper. but like you said, you dont consider it an option so its your money.

I really like my Razer Viper wireless mouse :) Very accurate, good grip, week long rechargeable battery life, fairly affordable, and light. The scroll wheel is tight too :)

Same here, I've had nothing but good experiences with Razer mice. My oldest one is a wired Viper V2 which still works perfectly fine, just upgraded to a wireless viper later on. Less so with Logitech's gaming and non gaming mice which all had scroll wheel issues within 2 years, other than MX3S which is built like a tank.

Same here, I've had nothing but good experiences with Razer mice. My oldest one is a wired Viper V2 which still works perfectly fine, just upgraded to a wireless viper later on. Less so with Logitech's gaming and non gaming mice which all had scroll wheel issues within 2 years, other than MX3S which is built like a tank.

Same here, I've had nothing but good experiences with Razer mice. My oldest one is a wired Viper V2 which still works perfectly fine, just upgraded to a wireless viper later on. Less so with Logitech's gaming and non gaming mice which all had scroll wheel issues within 2 years, other than MX3S which is built like a tank.

I thought the same thing when I first swapped over but over time you'll get used to it. Went from 502hero to a razer vyper and I like it so much more. Also the joy stick might become a problem to with hitting krybonds. That being said a 502 or any clone has a ton of binds.

I'm surprised you've had scrollwheels die on you. I play apex regularly using scroll wheel for jumping and tap strafing with a WL Sword X magnesium for a year and I've yet to experience any issues. I also like the fact that they don't require a program to be downloaded to change mouse settings and is just a web portal. Your experience may differ but I found it way better than my Deathadder V3, Superlight 1 and 2 as well as Razer Viper. It isn't the lightest mouse around, but I have larger hands and it fits well with claw grip for me personally.

Razer viper/viper mini, safe shape, works well. Simple.

I have a Razer Deathadder V3 and a Viper that I really like. Liked the Logitech G703 as well. My keyboard is some basic $8 USB one.

Have you tried the Razer basili....oh...oh my. Uhh.. Well... Sounds like you're a claw grip gamer, whether you want to be or not. Seriously though, RocketJumpNinja has a website and YouTube channel and has a bunch of recommendations. The Roccat/Turtle Beach Kone Aimo is a larger mouse, but it's also heavier. I need a bigger mouse and found the Kone Aimo from RJN a few years ago. The only problem I had with it was that the left click button would wear out too quickly. I played a lot of Siege and loved using the pistols. LOL I switched to a razer viper to try a different grip... The left click has yet to go out, but I find it a little small.

Currently using a logitech g502 and a razer viper on laptop and desktop respectively. Both are great mice. I think the razer naga hex (v1) was my favourite mouse historically though i got it around the start of GW2 and it was just very well suited to that game. I had the naga hex v2 after that and it was also great. (preferred the v1 slightly)

A tip from a guy that knows about mouse: you will hear a lot of mixed opinions about durability "I never had a problem with it", "it sucks", but the truth is that's all subjective by their experiences, by design any mouse no matter how expensive can double click, specially if has no optical switches (most of them) otherwise, a mouse that mostly won’t encounter these issues using normal swiches does not exist TBH, but the chances of having double clicks are very very low, otherwise a lot of mouse companies would not sell, all you can do is watch good mouse reviewers like AimAdapt, usually when they say that a mouse is good is really good and choosing one with opticals if you are traumatized with double clicks, mouses with opticals is the way to go, solid construction is very easy to find nowdays, I also suggest you to consider your gripstyle to check all the boxes, if you use fingertip then why not go for Razer Viper, they are solid, good warranty, optical switches, recommended by any reviwer.

My viper is 3 yrs old and has been barely hanging on. Logitech from 2015 is still going strong. Never buying another razr mouse/keyboard.

My viper is 3 yrs old and has been barely hanging on. Logitech from 2015 is still going strong. Never buying another razr mouse/keyboard.

My viper is 3 yrs old and has been barely hanging on. Logitech from 2015 is still going strong. Never buying another razr mouse/keyboard.

Basilisk v3, i play a lot of siege and it is my favorite mouse. Depends if he has big hands or not, basilisk is fantastic if you have big hands, small hands seam to prefer the viper, I had one and found it very uncomfortable. Appears to be 69.99 on razers website but it should be available elsewhere.

I like to rest my hand on the mouse as well, so my pick is always an ergo shape. I’ve tried Razer Viper’s shape and VGN’s Dragonfly shape (which is similar to Logitech’s G Pro), but as soon as I got my hands on a Rapoo VT3 Pro Max, it became my number 1 mouse. What I personally would suggest you is to look on [EloShapes](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=razer-mamba-elite) for mouses that has a similar shape to the Mamba, this way you’ll know if the mouse you’re looking will fit your hand just fine. When I got my mouses/mice, I went for cheaper/cost-benefit options, just to test the shapes out. My plan was to move for a better mouse once I found my shape to go, but the VT3 fit me so good, that I just kept it.

I still love my G502 although been using my Razer vioer more often lately. The comfort of the G502 is not making me leave it though

i had a raza naga and basilisk. I also tried a g203 and razer viper, both of which were too small for my hands.

MX518. I wish they had wireless. Deathadder V3 Pro (I do also have the Hyperspeed too but I keep gravitating to the V3 Pro) I tried the Basilisk V3 (didn't like it), tried the Orochi V2 (too small and hurts hands), tried the Viper (preferred Deathadder V3 Pro better), tried the GPro (prefer Deathadder v3 pro much better) For eronomic office mouse I actually oddly enough loved the microsoft sculpt mouse. It's like a big ball. But it's discontinued now. I also like the MX Master 3 but it can feel clunky at times - but I rotate between that and the DAV3 Pro.

Razer is a gaming mouse company that makes the Vipers and DeathAdders that are best bought refurbished, I really wouldn't buy much of anything else from them. Their keyboards are way too expensive for what they compete with in the same price bracket nowadays, same with their headphones, and whatever else they make. If you ever own a razer mouse, get the software, choose your polling rates, and delete everything on your computer with the word razer on it.

A bigger mouse may not be better, you need a mouse that fits your hand , i had big mice but none realy felt good in my hand , then i tried a smaller mouse "razer viper" been in love with it ever since

I used to have a deathadder V2 (halo edition) and had to go to the Naga V2 hyperspeed as my adder died on me after a year. The Naga has been fantastic thus far, I'm a year and a half in and I love it. 12 side buttons, free spinning (and normal) scroll wheel, you can *sideclick* the scroll wheel (both directions) and customizable DPI from a button notched out of the Left mouse button. I don't know how similar to YOUR Naga it is, but I felt the need to specify. Out of all of razer mice I've owned the Naga V2 feels the best. Glorious Model O was my favourite by far but it's not an mmo style. (Or razer, lol) Little bit of extra context also: my Naga does NOT have the 'quick connect' side buttons like other models. Mine is an mmo style mouse and mmo style ONLY. Edit: I never put a list, but I owned 3 deathadders from the first edition, the v2 and the halo edition, 2 Nagas now (mmo and standard), as well as the... Viper? I think it's called. I didn't like it. The Naga is my favourite for versatility but the deathadder felt the nicest. It was also like $90 CAD. Downside is its a battery operated, takes a single AA

Imo Razer is not that good. I had everything from razer. headphones, mouse, mousepad, keeb etc. and I can say that the overall build quality is bad, but razer makes good switches. Switches in razer huntsman mini are really good. Edit: Headphones - Razer kraken first gen and Razer kraken X USB - broken after 5 months (Same happened to all my friends) Mouse - Razer basilisk X and Razer Viper - Viper fast teardown and rattling problem, basilisk - Sometimes it was losing connection (the receiver was 1m away from the mouse) Keyboard - Actually good I still have it

Everyone hates the clicks on the Deathadder and viper. I find them to be most satisfying out of any mice I’ve owned. They are very.. I dunno, surgical?

yea like a viper might be the best out there but not by a mile. although i do love mine

This is exactly what I'm going through right now. Ultimately I'd like to find a mouse with a shape thats an evolution of the g305. I've been looking at elo shapes to find a similar mouse but they don't really provide the curves of the mouse just the overall silhouette and size. Some of the mouse I've tried are the Razer Orochi v2, fantech aria, Razer viper, mchose l7, pulsar x2h, zaopin z1. So far I've liked the fantech aria shape the most out of all the mice I've tried but there hasn't been anything quite like the g305 shape other than ofcourse it's clone mice.

I've been through the same frustrations. My G502 started double-clicking, and then the Razer Viper had scroll issues. I eventually switched to the PowerColor Alphyn AM10 and it's been solid for me. No double-clicks, no scroll wheel glitches, and the build feels reliable. It’s wireless but you can still charge it, and the polling rates and sensor perform great even in fast-paced games. Definitely worth a look if you're done with Logitech and Razer.

Depends the price you’re getting I suppose but I really like the Razor Viper for a good budget mouse. But the best mouse IMO is the Logitech Superlight 2

Viper with its straight design i would say. Resistance on all directions will be equal.

Personally, I'll go with one of the following: Logitech g304/305 or g502, Razer Orochi or Viper, Attack Shark X3, VXE R1, Fantech Aria XD7 (Currently using this)

I find that interesting. I had a string of G502s fail after just a couple months of use . I switched to a Razer Viper and have had basically zero issues in the couple years I’ve had it.

I find that interesting. I had a string of G502s fail after just a couple months of use . I switched to a Razer Viper and have had basically zero issues in the couple years I’ve had it.

I find that interesting. I had a string of G502s fail after just a couple months of use . I switched to a Razer Viper and have had basically zero issues in the couple years I’ve had it.

Check out [prosettings](https://prosettings.net/lists/league-of-legends/) They mostly detail stuff for CS and Valorant pros where peripheral changes are a more popular topic. So the league list isn't exhaustive and not 100% up to date. As with other games, variants of the Razer Viper and Logitech G Pro dominate the list. But the G703, G903, and Deathadder also make appearances. Niche lightweight brands like Vaxeee and Finalmouse that have made inroads in CS and Valorant don't have much traction in league.

Unless I'm mistaken isn't the "Faker edition" of the v3 more similar to the v2 in some aspects? Also the drama of him being the guy on every death adder box, getting a signature edition, then switching to the viper because of wrist issues, then switching back to the deathadder? If I am remembering my insane Faker mouse timeline correctly?

Logitech G Pro 2 Lightspeed or another Razer Viper

usually any optical mice the optical mech click will never break before the rest of the mouse even with gateron/kailhua optical switches. I have a cheap shitty razer viper I got for $25 with optical mouse click and my issue is the scroll wheel is breaking.

Its good performance it's just razer build quality.

I'd say the viper

Well, I guess it's horses for courses. I tried the Viper, and I had really high hopes for the Corsair Scimitar Elite, but I really couldn't handle the software - I'm not one for all that rainbow unicorn shit and both Synapse and iCue seemed intent on destroying my minimalist colour scheme, as well as being almost impossible to consistently program macros to the buttons. At least with LGHUB, even though we all curse it, when it works it just works, and I found the SteelSeries software tolerable.

I have relatively bigger hands, and yeah I hold it near the same way. I am using g502 and viper, g502 is simply for work, it has many buttons, and viper is only because it is light...(I use gpro also)

Both are solid mice, just depends how much you value wireless vs wired. I will say, the older Viper shape is more similar to the Taipan. The Logitech Pro is more of a potato. I think both have buttons on both sides, as the older g pro had ones you could insert.

You could get the razer viper for 1.9k but do not buy razer deathadder v2x, I bought it a few months ago and it's been a horrible experience. The mouse disconnects randomly both with 2.4hz and bluetooth connection.

Razer Viper is available on Flipkart for 1.9k Definitely the best mouse you could get from a decent brand with 2 years warranty. It has mechanical switches which last longer than optical switches.

To anyone shopping for a new mouse right now: Don't just blindly look at #1 and buy that. While there are objective details that make one mouse better than another, there are also very important subjective concerns. The Superlight is a phenomenal mouse on paper, for example, but my hand simply can't stand the shape of it. For the longest time I also felt I didn't like Razer's products, but it's actually their Viper that finally ended my search for a mouse. To that point, you probably should try to resist the temptation to swear allegiance to any particular brand. These companies improve (and degrade) over time. This is pretty good advice for shopping in the tech world in general, honestly, and you'll see in the comments that a lot of people struggle with it lol

Viper is nice. I liked the form of the deathadder myself. It's still superlight and responsive. Just felt a little nicer to my hand.

What mice are those you bought? I have a Viper lately and it still works for me after a year and a half, now I'm afraid it will stop working

What mice are those you bought? I have a Viper lately and it still works for me after a year and a half, now I'm afraid it will stop working

What mice are those you bought? I have a Viper lately and it still works for me after a year and a half, now I'm afraid it will stop working

i have it, Ill write some pros and cons: \+ its cheap (i got it for like 60 euro or less) \+ its also quite light to the hand. its lighter than the previous one, but its not really the lighest on the market, Id say its somewhere in the middle. \+ 30000 dpi with polling rate up to 8000 from the standard 1000 (higher polling rates needs better cpu, but also it works weird with different games: minecraft, osu, league lag when you move your mouse with higher polling rate than 2000. Somehow counter strike 2 does not have that issue so I play it with 8000.) Also in the software it says that higher polling rate increases cpu usage, so it these problems may just be on my side, its not really a problem, just a little bit annoying. I usually just swap profiles when I change games. \+ you can find parts for it pretty easily \- razer product = you have to use their software :/ \- I dont know if its a me issue, but sometimes sensor lags the mouse - I move mouse to the left, and I get laggy, slowish, weird movement on the screen. After blowing its usually fine. Ive got a no name black mat, but im planning on switching since its old. That may be the issue but I dont really know \- scroll wheel is annoying. slippery af - I tried to clean it with isopropyl alcohol many times but I just couldnt make it work Overall I recommend it a lot, just because I got it for cheap. Its a good mouse.

Installing itself before windows (like really?) Random crashes/bugs that make me have to close every razer app in task manager to restart it correctly. Some days my keyboard wont function and I have to unplug it and plug it back in for it to work, same for kraken headphones and its thingy with thx audio. I have macros set up on side buttons, when I turn off the computer, they reset, but only on one specific profile, When I tried to ask razer support to fix it, we went through some weird hoops, where they recommended to install synapse 4 (I was on 3 because it did work and because all my devices want to install 3, so why would I go for 4? id have both apps at once, nice one razer btw) so after I uninstalled synapse 3 like their instruction asked, I restarted pc, but then all input devices were gone. mouse, keyboard were not working. I tried swapping to a different one, it also did not work. I couldnt log in to my own pc. I could get it to work in safeboot mode, and thru that I could go back to before i uninstalled synapse. Im calm typing this, but back then I was so mad. I havent seen anybody having same problem, but thats still on them or/and their software. Nonetheless Im not going to throw their products out of the window instantly, but Im not going to buy them anymore. Id still recommend the mouse tho, its really cheap for the great sensor it has.

Razer 8k , with grip tape

Do not get the razer v3. The scroll wheel is known for bugging. I have one and with jump bound to scroll I randomly start jumping around in game. Allegedly the v4 fixed this issue but I went back to my v2 and love it.

Neither the GPX nor the V3 ever sold for nearly as much

On paper sure, but no one had to pay that much. It fell by 30$ just a week or two after release and never rose any higher again. Price only went downhill fast from there and stabilized at around 145 and occasional dips to 125.

Anyone buying straight from Razer on day one has no right complaining about their insane prices. Can't help you if you can't wait a little to jump on a discount which were very frequent shortly after release. That's like buying ANYTHING 101.

I use an MMO mouse with 1-12 on the side. Program those buttons to whatever you like, for example in FPS’ I use 4 as melee and 5 as grenade, etc. I’ve used razer naga molten, v2 and I just bought hyperspeed, love them. I’d recommend something like that. https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/ff3c0108-ae4d-4e03-a3ac-6c69a45d4e22.f6153b072aacaf0ff4f99182a3db7949.jpeg

I have the razer hyperspeed, don't get it. It uses batteries and weighs so much unless you get special batteries. Haven't had 1 and 2 but go with one of them