AATROX M811 PRO

Look up Redragon m811 pro wireless. Im satisfied with it having mouse-4/5 and still a bunch of buttons.

As far as I'm aware, my current setup is my endgame. I can't find anything better that's readily available/trustworthy: * Redragon M811W-RGB-PRO * Ergonomic tilt (would prefer vertical, but I don't think there are any vertical MMO mice). I thought my Darmoshark M5 was my endgame, but, in hindsight, I was just putting up with wrist pronation, and having to close my thumb and little finger together just all the time, and that's exhausting and terrible * Plenty of buttons for hotkeys/macros/navigation * Comfortable * Wireless * Weight is not a concern - I can acclimate * Games other than high speed FPS/twitch shooters *exist*, but you wouldn't know it from visiting this subreddit * PFU Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 PD-KB400B * There's a wireless mod I'm considering * Tactility feels really good * Bested my personal typing speed record on this thing, and I've only had it a few weeks * I would like to get MX stems for it, so I can try my MOA keycaps - could be a good time * I hear stupid-stiff domes would be a good time for me, too, so that's in a cart somewhere I'm not super fond of the... Yugioh card mat I'm using as a mouse surface/deskmat currently, and I'd like to try a glass pad at some point. I miss the Razer Sphex I had, like, a decade ago.

Look at red dragon. The big name mmo mice are junk and don’t last long. I love the following as you still get a forward and back button. https://a.co/d/01QYqAEw

Even then, I've been using redragons with 3395s at around 55g and 1kHz for about $35-40. Sure, it's dodgy, but it works for me, and it's cheaper.

Check out the Redragon M811. I considered it but Redragon is a cheap brand. It has what you might be looking for tho. I didn't go for it because some skills and actives need to be used in very quick succession (Looking at you cold front), faster than I think I could comfortably move my thumb back and forth that far. I also learned from all the mice I tried, your thumb as not as dexterous in practice as you think it will be when you are mouse shopping lol.