ROCCAT (Turtle Beach) - Kone AIMO Remastered

first, try claw mouse grip (for both faster clicking and fewer space consumed) and for as i have big, not quite as gigantic hands as you I am quite happy with my Roccat (now Turtle Beach) Kone Aimo Remastered

I was never a fan of Turtle Beach. But i have to say: You are wrong. I owned a Kone XTD for many years, had a Kone AIMO Remastered for a short time and also own a Kone II. Price? The [AIMO ](https://geizhals.de/roccat-kone-aimo-remastered-schwarz-roc-11-820-bk-a2211234.html)started at around 70€ in my country and was at discount for 35-40€. The [Kone II](https://geizhals.de/turtle-beach-kone-ii-tbm-1003-05-a3285618.html) also started at 70€. Quickly dropped to 60 and is at discount for 40-45€ now. Design of both mice is pretty close and the shape is the same.

I had a Kone XTD for manny years (and AIMO for a short time). Love the big bulky shape. Used the TB Kone II for a year now. The mouse is really good. Basicly a lighter Kone XTD

I love my mouse and it's not in there! Stay strong, Roccat Kone

Ahh okay, mine is probably somewhat later - I have a Kone Aimo from about 2020. It's still flawless for me! I find them a bit chunkier than razer mouses, so they feel a bit better for my hand

So I read so much praise about the Logitech G502 X I had to buy one. I currently have Roccat Kone AIMO Remastered and the weight and the software (along with the company being gone) have been really pissing me off, so I thougt it was a good time for an upgrade. The G502 X is generally advertised and described as a mouse for larger hands, but when I tried it, I was like WTF? Who designed this? I don't have HUGE hands, just a little above average, but the stupid side buttons must have been placed by AI or generally an entity that never held a mouse in their hands, otherwise I don't understand how this could be possible. Also, the mouse feels really small. So this clearly not working for my use case, what else can I get when I want a good wired gaming mouse with thumb rest and good software that nicely fits above average hands? I don't need too many buttons either, but one extra in the thumb area like the Kone and Logitech has is a very welcome addition.

Here for recommendations, really. My hands are even a bit smaller (measured them for the first time because of your post). I use a Roccat Kone aimo. It could be a bit smaller for it to fit perfectly, but I've been gaming with it for years and never had serious trouble with my hand.

Have you tried the Razer basili....oh...oh my. Uhh.. Well... Sounds like you're a claw grip gamer, whether you want to be or not. Seriously though, RocketJumpNinja has a website and YouTube channel and has a bunch of recommendations. The Roccat/Turtle Beach Kone Aimo is a larger mouse, but it's also heavier. I need a bigger mouse and found the Kone Aimo from RJN a few years ago. The only problem I had with it was that the left click button would wear out too quickly. I played a lot of Siege and loved using the pistols. LOL I switched to a razer viper to try a different grip... The left click has yet to go out, but I find it a little small.

I got the Roccat Kone Aimo, which was the biggest I could find.

Kone aimo has some larger mice for bigger hands I used to have one and it was the biggest mouse I’ve ever had

My thumb to pinky is also 26cm. I have been using the Roccat Kone XTD and Kone Aimo (even bought 3 spares just in case). Both fit well enough for me. Roccat is now Turtle beach but you can still find the Aimo online.

I have their mouse for 2 years and everything is fine. Also I have been using roccat khan(headset) for 8 years and it is still working well despite being dropped on the flloor countless times

I have too roccat kone aimo and it looks very nice Unfortunetly company was bought and discountinued so there won't be new roccats

Rocca kone aimo worked well for me

Same problem here. Was using the roccat (now turtle beach) kone aimo for a long time, allthough they werent very durable (bought like 4 of them). Just today I ordered a HyperX pulsefire haste 2 and I hope it gets close to the feeling of a kone.

I have a very good experience with the roccat aimo. It is bigger then other mice and feels great for people with big hands.

I used to have a Roccat Kone and it was hughe, the Aimo seems to be the way to go

I used to have a Roccat Kone and it was hughe, the Aimo seems to be the way to go

Roccat/Turtle Beach Kone AIMO/Kone II (as far as I'm aware, they're the same shape) My only wish is that it'd be lighter, but otherwise I have similar hands and I feel the kone aimo to be absolutely perfect. For other suggestions, I've found the Deathadder (pre-V3 shape, don't have a V3 model) to be quite comfortable and the g502 is great, but they both just don't feel as good as the Kone AIMO.

+1. It's simply incredible, I love that mouse. Large, heavy, an absolute tank, and it's even wireless with a charging dock included. And the amount of buttons is perfect. Only downside though is that those side buttons feel unfathomable cheap for a 150$ mouse, and that's why I'm switching back and forth between that one and my Roccat Kone, those mechanical side buttons just feel so much better, even though the mouse is just flimsy in comparison.

I also had two Roccat Kones. First one lasted 1 year, second one lasted 1.5 years. Both ended up with double-click issues.

I used a roccat kone for my mouse and I think its perfect. Its one of the very few gaming mice ive ever found that has 4 regular sized thumb buttons (most either just have 2 or a whole number pad with tiny buttons). Its only like 70$ and works very well.

Moderately large hands guy here who has dug through countless of these threads: You're right. Almost every mouse in this thread is too small for you. While eloshapes doesn't paint a complete picture of hand feel, you'll see that most recommendations is around the same size as the Deathadder V3, which is already too small for my hands. Gaming mice used to be way larger on average but nowadays the selection just sucks. The following mice are actually significantly larger, but many of them have other drawbacks like weight or shape or come with very dated tech because they're old. - Asus Rog Spatha X: largest "normal" gaming mouse I know of, but also heaviest - Asus Rog Chakram: smaller than Spatha, but still very large and heavy - Roccat Kone/Turtle Beach Kone - Intellimouse These two aren't longer than you average mouse, but somewhat wider instead. Doubt they're big enough for you but figured I should mention. - Mionix Naos Pro - Corsair Ironclaw

I also have quite big hands, although I don't have actual measurements. But the biggest mouse I ever had was the Roccat Kone. Updated versions are still around and eventhough I don't know how changed the design is compared to +/- 10 years ago, it might be worth investigating.

I loved my Roccat Kone (Aimo, Air, II, XP) mouses. They were great for bigger hands. Sadly Turtle Beach bought Roccat, and there are a lot of bad reviews now...not sure if the products are actually worse or just their bad reputation. But still the shape and size is spot on for me, you might want to test one if you can.

I've never used the magic mouse, even for things NOT gaming-related. I've always used a dedicated gaming mouse. I recently switched to the Logitech G502 Hero, as my old on (ROCCAT KONE) wasn't available anymore :(

The Roccat Kone is good, until it breaks. And it breaks soon. I know what I'm talking about, because I had three of them. Broken switches, broken cables, none of them survived more than two years.

This one exactly. The roccat kone was my first mouse back when I got into college.

As another big handed gamer, you need to accept that heavy mice are okay. Roccat Kone is often recommended for bigger hands but you should consider fingertip grip if you need lighter. 

Exactly it is the one and only for me ! Such a great gaming mouse

First of all. Shape is king. Don't be worried about all the new optical tech and weight reduction. As someone who owns about 24 mice I've come to appreciate shape more than anything. There's no point in a weight class if your hand is gonna cramp in the first hour you're playing. At that point it doesn't matter what new tech is in the mouse or how feathery light it is. You're going to develop carpal tunnel down the line if you go at it like that. First, measure your hand and if you have the opportunity to test more in person like at an electronics store or if you have a friend that can let you borrow their mice with a different shape then your own go for it. I also highly encourage you watch different mouse reviews of different mice once you sort of come to that conclusion. The og Viper Ultimate is an excellent starting point to jump off of when exploring different mice. If I may, here are some things to consider/ look for when looking into other mice. - First of all, your Viper Ultimate is a bit of a flat mouse. The Viper Mini is wired but has a bit of a hump. This is highly subjective among gamers/ mouse enthusiasts because it affects how your palm is placed on the mouse itself. - Wired or not wired. Some prefer it wireless so there's no drag, but there are some mice that have very light braided cables or rubber cables. I personally use a Roccat Kone Pure Ultra that I switch off from my Ninjutso Sora. Please note that wired DOES add weight to the mouse, but depending on what kind of cable and if you use a mouse bungee or not will affect your gameplay. Having it wired never really bothered me. - Speaking of shape is king, there are mice that have different shapes and button layouts that you may find interesting. As I said before, The Roccat Kone Pure Ultra is one of my favorite mice in my collection. My first ever mouse was the older Roccat Owl Eye and I loved it for its shape. It has a bit of a curve that makes it more of a right hand mouse, but as a right handed person the curve actually suited my grip style. It also uses Titan mechanical switches that feel crisp to me. Is it faster than the switches in Razer's newer mice? Probably not, but I personally prefer the feel of the press over the latency test in game, which are marginal at best in my own personal testing. My other favorite mouse is the g502. Consider it's shape, multiple button options and the infinite scroll wheel where you can toggle a switch to have the scroll wheel spin instead of click in steps. It's heavier even without weights, but it's a comfortable mouse that also doubles as a nice productivity mouse for work. I would look into if having more buttons for your gaming/ productivity for work would be beneficial for your setup. - Don't worry about things like 8k polling rates or the newer switches that gets put into the newer mice. Unless you have an extremely beefy PC and a crazy monitor you won't really see those returns. Even if you had those in your setup, your performance still comes down to how comfortable you are to land your shots. Remember, even back then during the early days of Twitch and competitive online gaming that made certain streamers rich and famous, even they started off using wired mice. Ninja used a Logitech G502 and even used his own Finalmouse Ninja collab for years before going wireless. It just goes to show that practicing with the mouse that feels the most comfortable is what works. I hope this helps!