ROCCAT (Turtle Beach) - Kone II Air Wireless Gaming Mouse

+1. It's simply incredible, I love that mouse. Large, heavy, an absolute tank, and it's even wireless with a charging dock included. And the amount of buttons is perfect. Only downside though is that those side buttons feel unfathomable cheap for a 150$ mouse, and that's why I'm switching back and forth between that one and my Roccat Kone, those mechanical side buttons just feel so much better, even though the mouse is just flimsy in comparison.

For those who are on the fence of getting the Kone II Air, the scroll wheel is different than with the cable version. The Air has a tactile/free spin button instead of the + (DPI or whatever) switch, where the tactile setting is loud AF due to a metal rod pushing into the plastic teeth inside the scroll wheel. Luckily I didn’t have to pay anything for my two Air units (beta tester unit and final unit as reward), otherwise I had returned them for the cable variant.

The Kone XTD and the Kone 2 are identical in Size and Shape. I have both. An other option could be the Microsoft Pro Intellimouse. It's similar to the EC1 but slightly bigger.

If the shape of the Kone AIMO fits you well then i would go with the Turtle Beach Kone II. TB bought Roccat. The Kone II uses the exact same shape. It's lighter (90g instead of 130g) and has a new Software (Swarm II).

I was never a fan of Turtle Beach. But i have to say: You are wrong. I owned a Kone XTD for many years, had a Kone AIMO Remastered for a short time and also own a Kone II. Price? The [AIMO ](https://geizhals.de/roccat-kone-aimo-remastered-schwarz-roc-11-820-bk-a2211234.html)started at around 70€ in my country and was at discount for 35-40€. The [Kone II](https://geizhals.de/turtle-beach-kone-ii-tbm-1003-05-a3285618.html) also started at 70€. Quickly dropped to 60 and is at discount for 40-45€ now. Design of both mice is pretty close and the shape is the same.

I had a Kone XTD for manny years (and AIMO for a short time). Love the big bulky shape. Used the TB Kone II for a year now. The mouse is really good. Basicly a lighter Kone XTD

the two biggest mice i know are the Microsoft Intellimouse Pro (bad quality) and the Turtle Beach Kone II. Both are also higher than the G502. That is one reason they should feel bigger in the hand.

I also had two Roccat Kones. First one lasted 1 year, second one lasted 1.5 years. Both ended up with double-click issues.

I love my mouse and it's not in there! Stay strong, Roccat Kone

I used a roccat kone for my mouse and I think its perfect. Its one of the very few gaming mice ive ever found that has 4 regular sized thumb buttons (most either just have 2 or a whole number pad with tiny buttons). Its only like 70$ and works very well.

Moderately large hands guy here who has dug through countless of these threads: You're right. Almost every mouse in this thread is too small for you. While eloshapes doesn't paint a complete picture of hand feel, you'll see that most recommendations is around the same size as the Deathadder V3, which is already too small for my hands. Gaming mice used to be way larger on average but nowadays the selection just sucks. The following mice are actually significantly larger, but many of them have other drawbacks like weight or shape or come with very dated tech because they're old. - Asus Rog Spatha X: largest "normal" gaming mouse I know of, but also heaviest - Asus Rog Chakram: smaller than Spatha, but still very large and heavy - Roccat Kone/Turtle Beach Kone - Intellimouse These two aren't longer than you average mouse, but somewhat wider instead. Doubt they're big enough for you but figured I should mention. - Mionix Naos Pro - Corsair Ironclaw

I also have quite big hands, although I don't have actual measurements. But the biggest mouse I ever had was the Roccat Kone. Updated versions are still around and eventhough I don't know how changed the design is compared to +/- 10 years ago, it might be worth investigating.

Cool display. i just replaced my G604 because it would send a double click when I clicked and held, love my new Kone II Air though, maybe not for everyone but if you have big hands and like a palm grip there aren't many options on the market. Like every other mouse I felt was either wide enough but not long enough or long enough but not wide enough.

In short; I'm looking for recommendations for a wireless mouse for large hands, gaming/fps focused. I don't put much stock in mouse weight. If it's very light, fine, if it's on the heavy side, fine (mice used to come with additional weights you could add, not that long ago, if you can believe that 😚). The claw grip factor may not be that important, just adding it for extra detail. Under $100, under $75 preferred. Been using my Logitech MX518 for years, and it's okay, but it's always been a little too small for me and leaves my hand a bit crampy after an hour or two of gaming. Plus it's about time I tried a wireless mouse, I don't think wireless will be any kind of big revelation, I was fine with wired mice, but I've been interested in trying a wireless mouse for a long time. From researching, it sounds like the **DeathAdder V3 Pro Wireless** would be a good fit. They might even have it on display at BestBuy so I could see how it feels before buying. But looking for other options as well. There's a lot of mice out there 🐭. Plus there's some decent deals this time of year.

Well the Logitech MX 518 originally came out in 2005, and I still have my original one, but they relaunched the MX 518 in 2019. Wish they would do the same for the G9x 😭 I fondled a bunch of mice at Best Buy (😏), they have a lot on display, but most of them are pretty small. The only larger one they had was the Kone II Air, which actually felt pretty good in hand, at almost 83mm wide. Funny it's called the "Air" when it weighs 110g, though 😅, but I think people put too much stock in mouse weight. and the Logitech MX Master 4 is not a gaming mouse, but it's BEEFY, 88mm wide, 51mm tall, weighs 150g 😱 so I don't think it would work as a gaming mouse, has some side buttons/side scroll buttons I don't care for, but it's definitely a good mouse for big hands. Wish there were more gaming mice around that size, but under 100g, ideally.