ROCCAT (Turtle Beach) - Kone Pure Owl-Eye

My hands are 16cm, I use G603 for my daily work, they are bigger than my hands, but I like it for work. For gaming, I use smaller Roccat Kone Pure Owl Eye. I use palm grip btw

The original Kone Pure from early 2010s were so good. Rock solid build quality and they lasted forever. I used one for like 5 years. It's over 10 years old now and it still works. The modern Roccat Kone XP, while still noticeably better than Razer and about the same as Logitech, has definitely worse build quality than the older mice. But it's still a great mouse for productivity.

I use Roccat Pure but the company got purchased by TurtleBeach. If you want to compete and enjoy competitive demanding gaming for the years to come. Get yourself a mouse which shape your hand correctly on the desk. You will destroy your wrist if not. Price is meaningless. Comfort, good hand position and weight is what matter. Ditch the big brands their products are craps and especially Logitech which reinvent mouse size, shape every 4 months... It seems they have no clue how to make decent ergonomic and just spam products to be everywhere. Lastly, the most recommended is not always the best. It's simply the most popular. Try to analyse what your wrist position is with your current mouse, then how long and large is the mouse, find what's a good hand position for a mouse and shop for a shape which gonna give you this I forgot to add that I played league for 15 years and before that StarCraft, Dota, Wow. My wrist been doing overtime for a decade and the only reason I do not have lifelong issues with it is knowing how to get a decent mouse.

Roccat Burst Pro, It's a great mouse, it's light, comfortable, precise and have very responsive clicks, but one of the best feature it's something that poe doesn't care: the scroll wheel, so far is the best I have ever tried and scrolling reddit and navigating the web feel really great. I discovered Roccat around 10 years ago, had a Kone Pure for 6 years until it started to double click once in a while, I also liked that mouse. Before going for Roccat I bought and refunded 3-4 logitech mouse because they all were rattling like crazy, both the sensor and the scroll wheel.

mountain makalu 67 maybe? I found one on clearance and gonna give it a go, I have similar sized hands, but I’m ok with smaller mice and have been using an op1 which is really narrow. I can also second the razor naga as one of the more comfortable palm mice I’ve used, I just dislike the mmo button cluster and it’s chonking heavy as. Otherwise the roccat cone pure shape I liked, there is a modern clone called the Saturn pro and also the deathadder variants and Microsoft intellimouse pro.. unfortunately a lot of bigger options are on the heavy side. Edit: Looks like the Zowie EC1 series are very similar in shape to the m$ mouse, and would surely be lighter and more modern sensor.

+1. It's simply incredible, I love that mouse. Large, heavy, an absolute tank, and it's even wireless with a charging dock included. And the amount of buttons is perfect. Only downside though is that those side buttons feel unfathomable cheap for a 150$ mouse, and that's why I'm switching back and forth between that one and my Roccat Kone, those mechanical side buttons just feel so much better, even though the mouse is just flimsy in comparison.

I also had two Roccat Kones. First one lasted 1 year, second one lasted 1.5 years. Both ended up with double-click issues.

I love my mouse and it's not in there! Stay strong, Roccat Kone

I used a roccat kone for my mouse and I think its perfect. Its one of the very few gaming mice ive ever found that has 4 regular sized thumb buttons (most either just have 2 or a whole number pad with tiny buttons). Its only like 70$ and works very well.

Moderately large hands guy here who has dug through countless of these threads: You're right. Almost every mouse in this thread is too small for you. While eloshapes doesn't paint a complete picture of hand feel, you'll see that most recommendations is around the same size as the Deathadder V3, which is already too small for my hands. Gaming mice used to be way larger on average but nowadays the selection just sucks. The following mice are actually significantly larger, but many of them have other drawbacks like weight or shape or come with very dated tech because they're old. - Asus Rog Spatha X: largest "normal" gaming mouse I know of, but also heaviest - Asus Rog Chakram: smaller than Spatha, but still very large and heavy - Roccat Kone/Turtle Beach Kone - Intellimouse These two aren't longer than you average mouse, but somewhat wider instead. Doubt they're big enough for you but figured I should mention. - Mionix Naos Pro - Corsair Ironclaw