ROCCAT (Turtle Beach) - Kone XP

My favorite is the roccat kone xp. For me I wanted a mouse with more than 2 side buttons but not a whole numberpad that is easy to fat finger on the side. This one has 4 side buttons that are all perfect size.

I used a roccat kone for my mouse and I think its perfect. Its one of the very few gaming mice ive ever found that has 4 regular sized thumb buttons (most either just have 2 or a whole number pad with tiny buttons). Its only like 70$ and works very well.

The original Kone Pure from early 2010s were so good. Rock solid build quality and they lasted forever. I used one for like 5 years. It's over 10 years old now and it still works. The modern Roccat Kone XP, while still noticeably better than Razer and about the same as Logitech, has definitely worse build quality than the older mice. But it's still a great mouse for productivity.

Roccat Kone xp is pretty good, I’ve got two of them for some reason. Used them for a pretty long time though (recently upgraded), it’s a really solid mouse.

That Redragon M908 is decent. I bought it to try it out when War Within was coming out, and I was trying to find a new MMO mouse. Used it for a while. I ended up buying the newer Corsair Scimitar and honestly didn’t really love it either. There’s a Roccat (now Turtle Beach) Kone XP mouse that has 5 side buttons,and 2 buttons on the top side, that worked out pretty well, I actually bought 2 so I had a spare lol. Using that I can get creative with keybinds (Q, E, etc) and with 1-5 or so on my keyboard it covers more abilities than I need. Now if I played Classic WoW Hunter with 40 abilities I’d want the whole side pad of 12 buttons though lol

You'll get a billion suggestions of G502. It's fine, it's a perfectly safe choice, logitech mouse. That out of the way: Roccat/Turtle beach Kone XP. If you ever loved the logitech G700(s), the Kone XP(air) is the spiritual successor. Was a mad, mad fanboy for the G700(s) had 2 regular and 1x "s". The kone XP is ABSOLUTELY the successor, not a single doubt in mind. Even the thumb shift key is placed right (just off most peoples thumb meat) and weighted perfectly IMO. RGB is meh, turn it off. In every other way, screw TB with a large rusty mace, sideways. Can't speak for any of their other trash. Roccat were all about AWESOME hardware with software coded by a 2 week old long haired gibbon on a "coffee only" diet. The Kone XP is the sweet spot, still well above average mouse hardware and software that works very well (after some updates, genuinely not had a single issue with it but I was late to the party).

Missing the GOAT imo. Have had: Intellimouse v3 Razer Habu Razer Lachesis Random weird cheap one Logitech MX600 Other weird cheap one Steelseries Wow mouse 1 & 2. Logitech G700, G700s, G700s (previous GOAT imo) Logitech G502's (a good few) Roccat Kone XP Roccat Kone XP is THE absolute greatest mouse that's ever existed. It's Roccat's "Swan Song". The last mouse made under their brand before Turtle Beach fully absorbed them and the Roccat branding pretty much disappeared. It's absolutely the best thing ever created as a mouse. Even the "gimmicky" thumb "shift switch" is perfectly placed/balanced to double up keys available. Uses optical switches so there's none of the "logitech/omron microswitch plate inside fades with time" issues. The G502 is a VERY VERY good mouse. The Kone XP is absolutely better in every meaningful way. Still exists, now under turtle beach branding. TB absolutely suck donkey balls, I'd buy a TB branded one if either of the Kone XP's I have died. It's light, a TINY bit wider than the G502, similar weight/size/shape otherwise. It being Roccat, I think most folks missed it. They had typical German levels of good engineering, their software was terrible. TB coming in sorted the software. If they haven't messed with/cheapened the internals, still utterly peerless imo.

The "numpad on the side of the mouse" thing is fine. I find having SO many buttons clustered like that, muscle memory takes a LOT of training or is never quite precise enough. An MMO mouse needs a lot of buttons, yes, they need to be in more sensible places. Roccat Kone XP ticks the box. Will happily die on the hill of it being the (current) GOAT.

If you like G502 but don't like the omron switches eventually turning to mush, Roccat (now Turtle Beach, sadly) Kone XP fixes probably every issue/insufficiency with the G502. If you were ever a G700/s lover, it's absolutely the spiritual successor.

I like my Roccat Kone XP. The secret thumb rest button is a game changer

Roccat Kone XP. Love the button placement and its highly configurable so you can reassign buttons per game.

Roccat Kone XP. I was in a very similar situation to yours, I wanted some extra mouse buttons without having my thumb placing awkward on the left side of the mouse. I actually did try a mouse with about 10-12 buttons on the side and ended up refunding it, realized it wasn't for me. Roccat Kone XP was the answer to my prayers. The button layout is strangely uncommon but very practical, I think you'll understand what I mean just by looking at it. Swarm - the mouse's software - isn't too invasive either, and comes packed with everything you might need to customize each button. I think this mouse was Roccat's answer to Logitech's g502 Hero, which is a great mouse in itself. A friend used to have one and he loved it, and from what I recall I didn't find it awkward either. With that said, I can't say enough about my Kone XP. 6 months, zero complaints. I would definitely focus my attention on either this one or the g502 Hero. Good luck!

All the "gaming" mouse are all the same. They all look and feel alike. To me a gaming mouse needs more than 2 buttons. Roccat Kone XP, Naga and mice like this are what i consider gaming mice. The others are just lightweight mice.

Lol I actually liked the flipper/ up-down rocker thing. I found it easy to use. And yep I tried a roccat xp too. In fact I still have it sitting in a box in a drawer lol. I didn't use it for long. I think I just preferred the shape, weight and coating of the aerox. I'm sure it was a good option for some but I've never really vibed with roccat mice in general unfortunately.

I wish someone would clone the Roccat XP and make it lighter and ergo shape like the Naga.

The aerox 5 has that silly flipper instead of 2 additional side buttons (like the Roccat xp). Why not use the Roccat xp? Too heavy.

That’s true, in terms of mousepads, he’s good at recognising characteristics. And when it comes to mice, his personal experience with QC, button feel etc. Is actually very useful. What I don’t really like it that he doesn’t shift his lens when it comes to reviewing other mice that aren’t even aiming for the competitive FPS market, like the Kone XP. That mouse is very well built and great for productivity with some light gaming, but Boardzy slams it for being heavy and having a ton of buttons. I think he’s naive to assume that FPS gamers are the majority of the market (not even close).

+1. It's simply incredible, I love that mouse. Large, heavy, an absolute tank, and it's even wireless with a charging dock included. And the amount of buttons is perfect. Only downside though is that those side buttons feel unfathomable cheap for a 150$ mouse, and that's why I'm switching back and forth between that one and my Roccat Kone, those mechanical side buttons just feel so much better, even though the mouse is just flimsy in comparison.

I also had two Roccat Kones. First one lasted 1 year, second one lasted 1.5 years. Both ended up with double-click issues.

I love my mouse and it's not in there! Stay strong, Roccat Kone

Moderately large hands guy here who has dug through countless of these threads: You're right. Almost every mouse in this thread is too small for you. While eloshapes doesn't paint a complete picture of hand feel, you'll see that most recommendations is around the same size as the Deathadder V3, which is already too small for my hands. Gaming mice used to be way larger on average but nowadays the selection just sucks. The following mice are actually significantly larger, but many of them have other drawbacks like weight or shape or come with very dated tech because they're old. - Asus Rog Spatha X: largest "normal" gaming mouse I know of, but also heaviest - Asus Rog Chakram: smaller than Spatha, but still very large and heavy - Roccat Kone/Turtle Beach Kone - Intellimouse These two aren't longer than you average mouse, but somewhat wider instead. Doubt they're big enough for you but figured I should mention. - Mionix Naos Pro - Corsair Ironclaw

I also have quite big hands, although I don't have actual measurements. But the biggest mouse I ever had was the Roccat Kone. Updated versions are still around and eventhough I don't know how changed the design is compared to +/- 10 years ago, it might be worth investigating.

I loved my Roccat Kone (Aimo, Air, II, XP) mouses. They were great for bigger hands. Sadly Turtle Beach bought Roccat, and there are a lot of bad reviews now...not sure if the products are actually worse or just their bad reputation. But still the shape and size is spot on for me, you might want to test one if you can.

I've never used the magic mouse, even for things NOT gaming-related. I've always used a dedicated gaming mouse. I recently switched to the Logitech G502 Hero, as my old on (ROCCAT KONE) wasn't available anymore :(

The Roccat Kone is good, until it breaks. And it breaks soon. I know what I'm talking about, because I had three of them. Broken switches, broken cables, none of them survived more than two years.

I used to have a Roccat Kone and it was hughe, the Aimo seems to be the way to go

This one exactly. The roccat kone was my first mouse back when I got into college.

As another big handed gamer, you need to accept that heavy mice are okay. Roccat Kone is often recommended for bigger hands but you should consider fingertip grip if you need lighter. 

Exactly it is the one and only for me ! Such a great gaming mouse