ROCCAT (Turtle Beach) - Kone XP

As a many-years MMORPG player (Lineage2, Mu Online, WoW), cRPG fan and owner of G700 and G602 (and now Roccat Kone XP as g700 replacement) i never understood this love for Razer's Naga (which i had for a brief moment) and its children. Four buttons is max which thumb can use effectively (fast and without any thinking about function or its placement). You add more and you loose the benefits because of poor mnemonics and (later) egonomics (cant reach all of them effectively). Its like typing with pointing finger only - you can be fast and quite effective but never as fast and without looking at keyboard as when you use all fingers. So 4 for thumb, 3 for pointing finger (including LMB), 2 for middle (including RMB) and two small are for grip - thats the most reasonable setup for a mouse. If you want more buttons just use keypads with WASD on a stick -> Razer Tartarus, Hori TAC, so you don't have to use 3 fingers for movement (just 1) and can use them on other functions. I own two PZ31a's since 2007, a year ago i bought Hori TAC PS5 and recently i even created my own such device with RP2040 Zero - 1 joystick + 25 keys + 4 buttons as pedals and its more than enough for most of games (even STALKER GAMMA which is most key-demanding game ive played recently). Its still in prototype phase (some changes have to be made) but it already works perfectly. Way better than trying to cramp all keys on a mouse which is a device not designed for that.

I currently use the Kone XP which replaced a Logitech G700s. I liked the Logitech a little better but I can live with this one. But yeah, there aren’t a lot of good options if you want more than 2 side buttons but don’t want to go all the way for a whole ass numpad on the side of your mouse. 

+1. It's simply incredible, I love that mouse. Large, heavy, an absolute tank, and it's even wireless with a charging dock included. And the amount of buttons is perfect. Only downside though is that those side buttons feel unfathomable cheap for a 150$ mouse, and that's why I'm switching back and forth between that one and my Roccat Kone, those mechanical side buttons just feel so much better, even though the mouse is just flimsy in comparison.

Lol I actually liked the flipper/ up-down rocker thing. I found it easy to use. And yep I tried a roccat xp too. In fact I still have it sitting in a box in a drawer lol. I didn't use it for long. I think I just preferred the shape, weight and coating of the aerox. I'm sure it was a good option for some but I've never really vibed with roccat mice in general unfortunately.

I also had two Roccat Kones. First one lasted 1 year, second one lasted 1.5 years. Both ended up with double-click issues.

The Turtle Beach Kone XP II was built for people like us with larger hands. I think you ought to give it a try. It's very natural feeling in your hands. [https://www.turtlebeach.com/products/kone-ii-air-mouse?Color=Black](https://www.turtlebeach.com/products/kone-ii-air-mouse?Color=Black)

The Turtle Beach Kone XP II was built for people like us with larger hands. I think you ought to give it a try. [https://www.turtlebeach.com/products/kone-ii-air-mouse?Color=Black](https://www.turtlebeach.com/products/kone-ii-air-mouse?Color=Black)

I love my mouse and it's not in there! Stay strong, Roccat Kone

My favorite is the roccat kone xp. For me I wanted a mouse with more than 2 side buttons but not a whole numberpad that is easy to fat finger on the side. This one has 4 side buttons that are all perfect size.

I used a roccat kone for my mouse and I think its perfect. Its one of the very few gaming mice ive ever found that has 4 regular sized thumb buttons (most either just have 2 or a whole number pad with tiny buttons). Its only like 70$ and works very well.

Roccat Kone XP is nice and has a lot of extra buttons

Moderately large hands guy here who has dug through countless of these threads: You're right. Almost every mouse in this thread is too small for you. While eloshapes doesn't paint a complete picture of hand feel, you'll see that most recommendations is around the same size as the Deathadder V3, which is already too small for my hands. Gaming mice used to be way larger on average but nowadays the selection just sucks. The following mice are actually significantly larger, but many of them have other drawbacks like weight or shape or come with very dated tech because they're old. - Asus Rog Spatha X: largest "normal" gaming mouse I know of, but also heaviest - Asus Rog Chakram: smaller than Spatha, but still very large and heavy - Roccat Kone/Turtle Beach Kone - Intellimouse These two aren't longer than you average mouse, but somewhat wider instead. Doubt they're big enough for you but figured I should mention. - Mionix Naos Pro - Corsair Ironclaw