Kone XP Air

I present to you the Turtle Beach/Kone XP Air I recently decided I needed a better mouse, specifically for Deadlock, and set out to replace my Razer Basilisk v3 (a great mouse in its own right). I wanted more buttons on the side to map items because I really try to keep my fingers on WASD at all times. I ordered a handful of mice, looking for mice with additional side buttons that were NOT mmo mice. I landed on the Steel Series Aerox 5, Glorious Model I 2, and the TB/Kone XP Air. I looked at the Corsair Nightsword, ROG Spatha and ROG Chakram X, but decided not to pull the trigger on them for various reasons. The Aerox 5 was an instant no. It has this weird whammy bar on the side that you flick up and down (like the guitar hero controller) that looked neat in theory, but it was really stiff and hard to use in practice. The Glorious Model I 2 was amazing and I almost kept it. The buttons are easy to reach with your thumb and it has multiple swappable buttons if you want different shapes. The m1 click action was very crisp and its also very light. I loved it. But then I got the XP Air. This mouse has some drawbacks. The M1 click action stinks, it's gummy with long travel distance and it feels bad. It's heavy at 100 grams. But the buttons, oh my lord the buttons. The side array is so perfect for items/skills with the quad button layout and the thumb rest button is literally the game breaker and why I bought it. **I mapped the thumb rest button to parry and I am able to parry/counterspell literally everything.** If you are looking for a better experience with using your active items, I strongly strongly recommend the XP Air. Deadlock isn't a twitch shooter, so the gummy M1 isn't as big a deal as it would be in COD or Battlefield (and I used it during both battlefield weekends and the side buttons were amazing there too). If you can't get over the gummy M1, and you think it's too heavy, then the Model I 2 is a really amazing runner up. My next plan is to mod the XP Air with a lighter battery and to remove some of the plastic guts with a Dremel. I've seen guides online where you can get it down to about 70 grams. That's all, thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Yeah basically a 602 but they don't make them anymore. Also, it has the tiltclick left and right on the scroll wheel and the thumb rest button which is honestly goated. Do you like the x15? I looked at it briefly but it had horrible reviews

For anyone who wants more buttons, let me introduce you to the Kone/Turtle Beach XP Air. I did a lot of research trying to find the perfect mouse for games that require a shit ton of hotkeys (cough Deadlock) but I didn't want a MMO number pad. This mouse has 5 side buttons, 2 extra buttons on m1 click that are *raised* and easy to press compared to the G502, and left and right scroll wheel tilt. The only thing it doesn't have is infinity scroll. The clicks feel a little gummy and it's a tad on the heavy side, so not perfect, but goddamn that button on the thumb rest should be standard on every single ergo mouse. It's a literally game changer. https://preview.redd.it/2xl5d3k4d4hg1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c973402926d9dfca157df28e1108550e1fa1f7f9

Turtle Beach XP air 5 side buttons, I use that one on the thumb rest to parry https://preview.redd.it/lsf2awi1brxg1.png?width=698&format=png&auto=webp&s=40ed9422c15cf4389c22f5100d11f1a8ef035878

Kone xp air, or razer naga... theres also the glorious model i 2. Do not, i repeat, do not get the cosair darkstar. Im currently using the xp air and ive changed the "easy-shift[+]" button to a normal bind. G502 vs kone xp air: https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=logitech-g502-x-plus-vs.-turtle-beach-kone-xp-air One caveat to the xp air is the ring finger grip. Its all personal preference but i sanded that shit down to a more normal ring finger grip.

First of all, do not get the Corsair darkstar. I had one for about a week and was done with it in the first two days... Worse than a $20 microsoft mouse. I just got the kone xp Air about two weeks ago. It is amazing... I play mobas, fps games, mmos, rts, etc. I've never liked two button mice, yes, even while playing cs2 or val. Dont worry about getting the roccat vs. turtlebeach version. The only difference is a laser printed logo, lol. Form factor wise, this is THE mouse for valves' upcoming MOBA, Deadlock. It's almost like it was made for deadlock. ☆HAS 5 SIDE BUTTONS FOR A 5+2 CLUSTER(604 is 6+2 cluster, naga is just 6 button cluster) *PROS: ☆M1 AND M2 SOUND AND FEEL GREAT. I can't say the same for that piece of shit cosair darkstar. •The skates are a very nice shape and offer better stability than the 604. •It's lighter than the 604, 502, razer naga, and the darkstar. •The "+" & "-" buttons are placed better than the 604. •The "paddle" button is absolutely genius! I've bound it to "5" and it's my quick melee in games that have that, I dont fw the "[+]easyshift" feature(never tried it). •Apparently, this mouse is really good at drag clicking? I've never cared about drag clicking personally. •Battery life is quite good! •charging dock, although gimmicky, i love it. •sensor actually works... again, i can't say the same for that piece of shit Corsair darkstar. •no AA battery wobble... lol. *CONS: •scroll wheel on the g604 is the greatest scroll wheel of all time. Do not expect this or any mouses' scroll wheel to beat it •No scroll lock, although i found that slightly gimmicky anyway. •The thumb divet(NOT THUMB REST) under the buttons is slightly too far back unless you do an aggressive claw grip. •The "pinch distance" between thumb and ring finger is slightly smaller than 604. •The palm rest doesn't go to the base of your hand like the 604 and 502 do. •The right side is slightly slippery and convex. •M2 is convex for some reason. It still feels nice, but like, why? •slightly short. •small amount of pre-travel on paddle button. *NITPICKS: •Flaired bottom is unnecessary on the right side. •RGB is unnecessary. Also, it shines onto the see-through palm rest, causing hard light lines at the base of the mouse. Turning RBG down solves this issue. •"4D wheel" isn't a selling point, nor is it new... tons of mice have this. •NOT THE FABLED "G604X," lol. CONFIGURATION: If you want the 604 feel, you'll need to bind the side buttons to: [1] [4] or [1] [2] [2] [3] ~ [4] [3] [5] ~ [5] Alternatively(not recommended): [1] [4] or [1] [5] [2] [5] ~ [2] [4] [3] ~ [3] Idk why it formatted it like this...

Yes, i have mine bound to "5". Swarm works fine. I've had no issues other than i was impaitient and didn't let the settings save, causing slight frustration, but other than that, swarm is pretty good.

Red dragon maybe? Their mmo mouse is actually amazing. I just stepped up to the kone xp air from there, but idk if that would be big enough. Maybe the g502 also.

My hands are a little bit larger than average, and have found the Turtle Beach (Formerly Roccat) Kone XP Air to be magnificent. Lightweight, super comfy, and a couple extra programmable buttons without going overload.

I have Turtle Beach Kone XP Air. 2 extra buttons next to left click 4 extra buttons on the side 1 extra thumb button that can be used as a modifier. In terms of button layout, it's the best mouse I've ever had. The only downside is that the battery life is shit.

Yeah I actually have Roccat version too but this brand doesn't exist anymore. I think Turtle Beach has the exact same design. When I heard that Roccat will be absorbed by Turtle Beach, I actually bought 2 spare Kone XP mice (wireless and wired) but the original one is still doing great after almost 3 years of daily use. I had an issue with mouse wheel scrolling but cleaning up the roller with air and a tiny bit of WD40 fixed it.

Yeah I actually have Roccat version too but this brand doesn't exist anymore. I think Turtle Beach has the exact same design. When I heard that Roccat will be absorbed by Turtle Beach, I actually bought 2 spare Kone XP mice (wireless and wired) but the original one is still doing great after almost 3 years of daily use. I had an issue with mouse wheel scrolling but cleaning up the roller with air and a tiny bit of WD40 fixed it.