VGN - Dragonfly R1 SE

yes, light is better. i actually turned my vxe r1 se+(which weighs 55g, and costs 30usd for pretty good specs) into a 29g mouse

no, i just cut a ton of holes in it [https://www.reddit.com/r/mousegore/comments/1lu2780/29\_grams\_vxe\_r1\_se/](https://www.reddit.com/r/mousegore/comments/1lu2780/29_grams_vxe_r1_se/) yeah i use claw

just get the vxe r1 se na, it's good

Yes, i love mine. Go for it (qc is a little unreliable but it's great other than that). Second best to the Kysona m600 would be VXE R1 SE.

If you really want a sub $10 mouse then this one is much more serviceable, albeit heavier. https://a.co/d/ahBF6qE (Uhuru WM-09) That being said, I would just get the VXE R1 SE and call it a day.

R1 SE is the best option there.

i guess i was a bit unlucky, got my first vxe r1 black with no problem and got the vxe r1 se with a weird click

I'm from Kerala too and I got mine from here: https://neomacro.in/products/vgn-vxe-r1-series?variant=47176631681302 Took around a week to deliver.

Vxe R1 SE is your best bet, and even that’s around 17-20 rn

VGN R1SE. Cheap, good and no thrills.

I think you missed OP's " I don’t care if it’s not “professional” I don’t play esports lol I just want something that won’t turn to ash after six months." The mouse is still good you know even if the sensor is rebranded.

still a very good budget mouse, the only worthwhile ones are the pro and the se, the former for great value, and the latter for ultra budget.

the companies you listed pretty much have no issues. but im gonna rank them based on personal preference. 1. VXE/VGN (got the R1, but it creaks when i squeeze it, not a deal breaker) 2. Mchose (havent used any but they have really interesting shapes) 3. Zaopin (only have the z2 and its a solid performer overall) 4. Darmoshark (got the m3 but the build quality felt cheap) for context i also have a pulsar x2 superclear and a lamzu thorn that are priced way above the ones above and they have more issues than the other chinese mice combined.

You can go for vxe r1 it's pretty vfm mouse. There also mouse like atk a9 which is a gpx clone for 400 more and x1s which is a vv3 clone again for 400 more.

Decent mouse, what's your hand size and grip style?

I don’t own either. I know it’s definitely not a great mouse but it’s the only ones I know of with a dock other than the viper ultimate which is like $100+. If you want a good cheap one you can get something like the vxe/vgn r1 really cheap if you want to upgrade to the pro or se versions you can for a bit more for better sensors. You can also look at mchoose mice they’re really good also, I own a L7 which is smaller than the r1.

I love my r1 so far I’ve had no issues still. I’ve had mine for about a month now. It has a worse sensor than the 179 and it’s also not ergo. If you rather have something ergo you can also look into np-01/s I have smaller hands so the s was better for me.

No point going with the R1 if youre going to go wired. It's a solid budget wireless mouse but if you have no intention of going wireless then you're just overpaying for a poor performing wired experience. If you want the best possible performance you can go with the DAV3 or OP18k, both are within budget, I'd recommend the OP1 as the best of the two purely because the DAV3 has a worse cable but both are good enough. However I'm gonna assume you don't have the latest and greatest PC with the fastest CPU ever so it might not be worth getting a high polling rate mouse at all. Higher polling rates cause dropped frames on most systems and even if you only drop a few frames, that still mathematically completely negates any advantage from using the high polling rate in the first place. It's probably worth considering some older models like you mention in the title. You've got 5 or 6 years of 3360/3366/3389 releases and all of those will perform admirably. Just from a quick look you can get something like the G-Wolves SK-S or Cooler Master MM710 for as little as $25. As a random aside I think the Ninjutso Origin One X is an IntelliMouse clone, so if you loved the shape of your old mouse and just want something that works and is slightly more modern, that could be a solid bet. I usually would say avoid the 3335 sensor, but if you find one for a good price and love the shape, it could still be worth considering. Overall I'd say make sure to do your own research as I find people on this sub tend to recommend the flavour of the month mouse far too often, even for use cases that don't suit it. Regardless I hope you find something you enjoy!

My friend and I bought two VGN F1 SE mice for $25 each, and they are much worse than my Razer Viper Mini and his Pulsefire Haste. So, we're both looking for Razer and HyperX wireless models. Additionally, all Chinese mice have terrible software. I usually bind the side buttons on the mouse to applications, but Chinese mice almost never support this (they use OEM software from the controller manufacturer), which is just awful.

I like to rest my hand on the mouse as well, so my pick is always an ergo shape. I’ve tried Razer Viper’s shape and VGN’s Dragonfly shape (which is similar to Logitech’s G Pro), but as soon as I got my hands on a Rapoo VT3 Pro Max, it became my number 1 mouse. What I personally would suggest you is to look on [EloShapes](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=razer-mamba-elite) for mouses that has a similar shape to the Mamba, this way you’ll know if the mouse you’re looking will fit your hand just fine. When I got my mouses/mice, I went for cheaper/cost-benefit options, just to test the shapes out. My plan was to move for a better mouse once I found my shape to go, but the VT3 fit me so good, that I just kept it.