VXE - Dragonfly R1

if you can stretch it to 2k this will last you years [https://shopee.ph/Vxe-Mad-R-R-MAJOR-MAJOR-Series-Major-Ultra-Lightweight-Dual-Mode-Wireless-Esports-Mouse-Ergonomic-Game-Ssential-Mouses-Boys-i.272922800.26559132298?sp\_atk=a03f7a29-a611-47c7-ad7b-f11d80a6bb48&xptdk=a03f7a29-a611-47c7-ad7b-f11d80a6bb48](https://shopee.ph/Vxe-Mad-R-R-MAJOR-MAJOR-Series-Major-Ultra-Lightweight-Dual-Mode-Wireless-Esports-Mouse-Ergonomic-Game-Ssential-Mouses-Boys-i.272922800.26559132298?sp_atk=a03f7a29-a611-47c7-ad7b-f11d80a6bb48&xptdk=a03f7a29-a611-47c7-ad7b-f11d80a6bb48) or Vxe R1 at 1.7k [https://shopee.ph/VXE-dragonfly-R1-Mouse-Game-PAW3395-Lightweight-Wireless-Mouse-i.368885895.23585246373?sp\_atk=46eb2936-41d2-43a0-8993-5a4e4eb41b88&xptdk=46eb2936-41d2-43a0-8993-5a4e4eb41b88](https://shopee.ph/VXE-dragonfly-R1-Mouse-Game-PAW3395-Lightweight-Wireless-Mouse-i.368885895.23585246373?sp_atk=46eb2936-41d2-43a0-8993-5a4e4eb41b88&xptdk=46eb2936-41d2-43a0-8993-5a4e4eb41b88) many ppl recommending viper mini but i advise against it because my scroll wheel broke after like 6 months or so, yes its still good but the scroll will be unusable. Also avoid rakk gahum, when its in 2.4ghz mode theres a slight delay and it messes up my aim in valorant, my brothers attack shark x3 however, does not, so maybe try considering it.

yea that works, its just that for 800 more the better specs are worth it imo. but the r1 se is good enough

[**VXE R1**](https://c.lazada.com.ph/t/c.1HBxMv) is a good move for that price.

Just so that you know, from AliExpress you can get vxe r1 se+ with 3311(rebranded 3335) for around 20$ with welcome deal, or vxe r1 with 3395 and decent switches for around 30$, best option would be getting vxe r1 pro but it could cost around 30-35$ if you find it on sale, though i don't know how it is buying from AliExpress for you

Just so that you know, from AliExpress you can get vxe r1 se+ with 3311(rebranded 3335) for around 20$ with welcome deal, or vxe r1 with 3395 and decent switches for around 30$, best option would be getting vxe r1 pro but it could cost around 30-35$ if you find it on sale, though i don't know how it is buying from AliExpress for you

\+1 dito. 1 year na yung sakin no issues naman.

R1 SE yung usual reco ng mga tao under 1k | Component | Link | Part | Price | Comment | |---|---|---|---|---| | **Accessories** | [LINK]() | Wireless Mouse Lazada PAW3395 VXE Dragonfly R1 SE | 900 (**900**) | |

I wonder how it compares to the vxe r1 se+? (Such a convoluted name lol) Since that's also a Logitech clone I think. And also thanks lol.

I wonder how it compares to the vxe r1 se+? (Such a convoluted name lol) Since that's also a Logitech clone I think. And also thanks lol.

No way I can stretch to 2k mb. And I can find a vxe r1 se+ for 1.2k. I don't think 3395 is worth that much

No way I can stretch to 2k mb. And I can find a vxe r1 se+ for 1.2k. I don't think 3395 is worth that much

Buy cosmic byte firestorm it is the best mouse for 1k. Using it for 1.5 years. If you want wireless go for vxe r1 se+(Mech keys).

if you’re willing to spend $10-15 on a mouse more you can try either the attack shark x3 or the dragonfly vxe r1 pro. they’re almost identical but the vxe r1 pro comes with grip tape and extra skates.

R1 SE+ is unbeatable at $17 and has web software - S Tier

Instock [here](https://moskeys.com/product/vxe-r1-series/)

Ye mb. Was in stock like a week ago

dont get the SE — get the SE+

well if you compare it to the + then yes (better battery and switch) and for the price difference, no point in getting the non + version.

VXE R1 SE+/Pro or Kysona Aztec

got my r1 se+ for around 900. overseas shop in orange app

Its still out for shipping haha paid 934 to be exact. [here](https://ph.shp.ee/rf2E6nE) its an overseas shop so might take a while (they are still on sale now if you plan to grab one). The + version is named long endurance, confirmed it with the seller and in photo reviews

yeah, and a better switch as well. Either get the SE+ or Pro. the non plus aint so great and no point getting the non-pro for the price diff to pro version

Aliexpress is the way to go these days... but you can probably get the same mice on Amazon with a bit of a price increase. Can personally recommend VXE Dragonfly R1... have even seen plenty of good reviews of even cheaper ones like the Ajazz/Attackshark etc. Not SE, just the basic R1. Anything with a 3395 (Again, NOT the SE, SE version is nerfed version) or better sensor is fine. If you care about competitive gaming you want one with the nordic chip, but tbh, it probably doesn't REALLY matter. The other options were slightly lighter (I think Pro) or better batterylife (I think MAX)... but got the standard R1. They're like 50 bucks shipped, even cheaper sometimes on sale. You will need to buy the 4k dongle separately if you want 4k polling rate though (not worth imo) Only caveat, would be these are small mice, so NOT for palm-grip users. Fingertip/claw grips only.

Get the R1, wont find much else better if at all for the price.

I have the VXE R1 Se+ and am really happy with the purchase, though I also switched the switches to silent, since they were to loud for my taste

vxe r1 series is better imo, but you do you edit: why is this getting downvoted? i clearly said in my opinion

Mouse - VXE R1 SE+ Mousepad - Playmax 3 Keyboard - Cougar Vantar S I am currently mainly playing ULTRAKILL, Quake, Risk of Rain 2 and Roboquest.

my vxe r1 (non-pro) came in the mail today and after using it for a few hours, this thing absolutely rocks my socks. i got it for [$16.66](https://imgur.com/c77dCui) from aliexpress and it came to my door within a week. i know this thing has been reviewed to death so I won't do a write-up. however, I was amazed at the user experience for the price point that I paid. I was fully expecting the experience to be either bad or filled with compromises but honestly, I have nothing but good things to say about the r1. the build quality is solid. the sensor/wireless/click implementation seems good. and this is where I am confused. why should I continue to pay $100-150 for a wireless gaming mouse when I can get the same experience for a fraction of the price?

Incott G23 for Logitech GPX2 clone for 1/3 the cost VXE R1 Dragonfly for Pulsar X2 clone for 1/3 the cost Metapanda01 for Deathadder V3 clone for 1/3 the cost I'm personally using the Zaopin Z2 over my Lamzu thorn, which I promptly sold off. Those who are skeptical of chinese clones, head over to r/MouseReview and educate yourselves. Don't waste your money on brands

So many budget bangers there. If people know what's up, all these brands will significantly discount their mice. I recommend zaopin z2, vxe r1 mad r, atk x1/f1. These mice uses 3395 sensor, 4k polling rate capable, high dpi, wireless and uses good switches. All for below 50 USD. They're more than 3x cheaper than what razer, Logitech puts out.

I owned VXE R1 SE+ , Zaopin Z2 and ATK X1S but personally i'd recommend to use R1 SE+ as the price is too good with the performance and claw grips as well

Sorry, but your arguments is kinda weak. Everyone still moves their mouse, so weight is still matter a lot. And there is a lot of stuff like VXE R1 SE+ for 30 freedom units, that weights 55g.... P.s. I had a long time ago G502, so i know what a brick it is :D

idk man, i have 20x10 hands, and the vxe r1 is pretty well sized(though i use finger tip grip)

R1 has a chip that tends to fail faster. i'd get the r1 pro or the kysona aztec (both have good Quality control) They're both cheap asf though

Attack Shark R1 is my sub mouse. Deathadder v3 shape but slightly smaller. VXE R1 is okay din if mas maliit trip mo Both can be sub 1k https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=attack-shark-r1-vs.-razer-deathadder-v3-pro-vs.-vxe-r1

I agreed with several points you brought up, thank you! Some explanations about my choices: - ATK X1 I considered the Ultra version with the PAW 3950 Ultra sensor - VXE R1 I also considered the Pro version which has the PAW 3395 and 4k polling rate, it is balanced for the price of what it delivers, but it clearly has better - Regarding the price of the Float, I considered the version that has a minimally decent battery to use 8k polling rate, if I'm not mistaken the 88S. It also has a 1k polling rate version, but with a 240mAh battery it's kind of difficult, in my opinion - Regarding the "copies" of GPX, yes it ends up being subjective, mainly due to quality control, service and several additional factors, but in this situation I meant in terms of sensor capacity and shape similarity About the opinions I agree with is that maybe the X3 can be downgraded to "Cheap but not high" really and I can include the MAD R and MAD G in the next list too :D

There is no best mouse tbh it's shape dependant. Lamzu (Thorn, Maya, Atlantis), Pulsar (X2, or Xlite), Razer (Viper or Deathadder), Logitech (G Pro), VXE (R1 or Mad R) Just a few brands to look into and check shapes on^ There are loads of decent mice out there these days though. Just look for something with either a PAW3395 or the newer PAW3950 sensor. Can save quite a lot of money and still get a competitive mouse by going with a Chinese brand like VXE, Lamzu, or Scyrox, etc. Some of these have Web based software also which imo is vastly better than razers Synaps and Logitechs GHub. AimAdept on YouTube has lots of videos on gaming mice.

I am using the Basillisk v3 for single player games, it's really good. You can also consider the vxe r1 if you are into esports titles.

personal best? sym = viper v3/sora V2 | ergo = thorn/deathadder v3 budget? ergo = delux m900 pro, zaopin z2 | sym = attack shark, VGN r1, VGN dragonfly which one have i been using the most as of late? sora v2 on a glass pad with donut skates. But for the most part, all comes down to which grip. if you have any more questions, i can try to answer some for you, ive tried way too many :3

I settled with the Zaopin z2 for work. A little heavier at 60 plus grams and the Vxe r1 and the mad r major for gaming. Lightest mouse I could find in 2024. 3 mice with heavy application of grip tapes on the sides. I find that flatter sides for the thumb and pinky finger helps alleviate the pain. Darmoshark N5 is another I could recommend, I didnt like the heavy clicks.

I’ve had this mouse for 6 years. I have the G203 Prodigy edition. Incredible mouse, still holds up today. However, I strongly recomand an AttackShark X3 or a VXE R1. Both are wireless mice, much better than the current g203 and have 3395 sensors. The VXE has a longer lasting battery of around 150 hours. Both mice cost the same as a g203 but both weigh only 50grams

Bro buy something like vxe r1 for 2400 or if ur okay with used go to imkc discord and buy something from there

Mouse: VXE R1 Mousepad: Alpha Unltd Extended Mousepad Keyboard: Royal Kludge RK84 with Akko Cream Yellow V3 switches Main FPS games: Modern Warfare 3

vxe r1 for wireless, viper mini for wired. those 2 are the best mice when it comes to value at this price range

Yup I got the Vxe r1 for like 16 dollars and I was amazed how the quality resembles logitech g pro 1. no issues with it so far. I don't think I would ever buy a mouse over 50 dollars tbh. 2nd market buying

i guess i was a bit unlucky, got my first vxe r1 black with no problem and got the vxe r1 se with a weird click

If budget is $30 VXE R1. If budget is $60 Scyrox V8.

Idk my hands are pretty big 19.5 x 10.5 but i really do not understand the hype behind the shapes of the l7 and mad R for example. I main the vxe r1 and its very comfortable, the mchose l7 just feels short and awkwardly wide, like the proportions dont make sense at all , i cant find a single comfortable grip, be that claw or ftip. And no i dont have alien hands. I understand we are all diffrent with diffrent preferences but i dont really understand this one. Same goes for the mad r that i find significantly more uncomfortable than the r1 , but people keep calling it an upgrade.

Yes VXE R1 is the best. Its a nice mouse

People that recommend the Viper Mini either havent tried it themselves or dont know better, that cable is stiff, thick so its not even compatible with mouse bungees I wouldn't subject a friend to that. The minimum I'd pay for a wired mouse with an actually good cable is around 2k for the Wired Razer and Pulsar options (Razer Deathadder V3 and Pulsar X2/X2H/Xlite Wired) and max at 3k-4k for the 8k options from Endgame Gear with good wired cables as well (OP1 8k and XM2 8k) at 1k the only reasonable option is VXE R1, whatever version you can get (avoid pro max, switches suck)

Rakk Dasig - heavy at 90g, outdated 3325 G102 - heavy at 85g, outdated 1855 Aula SC580 - heavy and another 3325, better build quality than Rakk Dasig at least Viper Mini - 3359 is old but acceptable, high lift off distance (preference), good but relatively slow skates. Actually usable weight (60 ish grams) too bad its discontinued and there are no viper minis that arent fakes below 1k, the razer cobra (viper mini replacement) starts at 2k. Hawk 1 - avoid Garuda Gear brand as a whole, too many quality control issues Attack Shark X11 - old 3311 sensor, avoid their sub 1k mice and go straight to 3395 like their Attack Shark X3 VXE R1 - build quality issue, luck of the draw depending on the batch you get. Go straight to R1 Pro for higher chance of better QC, issues dont show up until weeks or months in use (switches or scroll wheel is usually first to show issues, shell creaking and slam clicking problems as well but those are rarer with the model I mentioned) Only mouse I would consider from that list is VXE R1, but you're better off saving 2k+ for more better options

my r1 is fantastic

Build quality wise of course the official ones are better, they better do looking at how much they costs. But comparing a Viper v3 and a Attack Shark X11, they are really close and certainly not $120 appart to me. Attack shark QC must be really random because each time its either "the things keeps losing track or disconnect" or "the thing is perfect". I have the R1 and the X11 both of them are perfect to me. Zero connection lost, no latency, things are dead spot on it's amazing what $20-30 got you nowadays.

I bought a VXE R1 and I am really, really impressed with it. Now I am just dying to get my hands on the X1. I ordered June 7, so I hope your shipment means they have stock and are sending them out !! 🙏

Vxe r1 any day. I think it'll be back in stock on neo macro end of may. You can enquire on their discord about the restocking.

https://preview.redd.it/k54jgd84usue1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dee3ebd844fc06e83f28742022d81bdcfd0400f9 Get the vxe r1. For the price this is the best one you can get. I got mine from loadout but you can also buy it from meckeys. I wouldn’t wish kreo on my worst enemy. If you have any questions about the mouse feel free to dm me.

I completely understand. The mouse industry has come a long way since then. I collect a lot of mouse (it’s a problem I genuinely need help) and I can tell you you don’t need to break the bank or go for just the name brands these days. Vxe r1 is genuinely a very good mouse. It’s much lighter than orochi v2 as this does not require batteries. I find the vxe 1 shape better than the eggshell shaped mice. It has a web based software so you can get rid of synapse. A very good sensor and a decent battery life. All for just 2600 (the price I bought it at).

This can be an understandable take. The VXE R1 is great, but it literally took me 45 mins of setup for it to work for my s/o. Great mouse, love the shape, weight, and everything abt it, but to a normal consumer that just wants a plug & play mouse with simple instructions and a web / dedicated app like G Hub or Razer Synapse, it’s definitely a turn off for most. Along with the fact that this mouse is best bought off of AliExpress, which people have so many doubts about for some reason. It can be harder to get others to be interested. If I were to recommend an easily accessible but great mouse, it’d be the Hitscan Hyperlight.

VXE R1. no logo, no holes, no lights. only the product name on the side.

can vouch for vxe r1, great mouse for its price. Replaced my g304 had double click issue.

Vxe r1 Nearlink + MD Mousepad

It's good actually, it has a Pixart 3395 sensor, and a 500mah Battery. I play games and work evryday and the mouse can last 14 days with every day hard use. And It's very light

Like many of you I’ve seen many posts all the time asking about what the best mouse under 50$ or 60$ or whatever, lots of them asking about finding a solid mouse for cheap. I’ve become someone who has more knowledge than I should ever need on solid mice sub 65$ so I figured I’d put together a list of very solid mice at a low price! I’ve broken them up into a two categories of mice as there’s a lot of them that try to aim for the exact same shape as some others and are clones. Most all shapes from China are like exactly the same as others and do not usually make their own. Some brands do, most do not, and to go farther even to say original shapes I’m gonna say like…originalish cause that’s more accurate. I’m also adding what grip type each mouse is best for but this is honestly subjective to a bit. These are mostly recommendations as far as grips go as realistically you could do whatever grip suits you best on any mouse if your hands are big/small enough and that’s not entirely a thing i can take into account. If the mouse is wired then I have added that as well as most are wireless.  *Disclaimer, most of these are cheap chinese mice. It’s kind of a dice roll if the QC will be good or not, some have particularly good QC and i’ll mention those are they come up* **ORIGINAL SHAPES(ish):** * Incott Ghero Pro A very solid ergo mouse that is called GPX Ergo (or NP-01(S) clone) by many and is extremely solid built quality wise while also being extremely affordable. (Claw/Palm) **#** * Incott HPC01M is a more traditional mouse that’s designed for all grip types and is also extremely easily hot swappable to try different switches out with. It’s super solid built wise and works for many grips (All) * ATK F1 is a more traditional shape meaning it’s got a larger hump on the end and curves in the back out towards the front, the brand is known for being fairly solid QC wise and the mouse is very lightweight at 38g. (All) * MCHOSE G3 Is an egg shape that’s overall larger. It’s more akin to the G303 if it wasn’t quite as angled and it’s butt was smaller. At the time of this post it’s fairly new but overall the Mchose brand makes some solid mice. (All) * VGN Dragonfly F1 is more of an original shape with a larger rear hump and shorter front end, that is overall a fairly solid shape akin to the style of a viper mouse. Known for having excellent quality control. (Claw/Ftip) **#** * Ajazz AJ159 is a solidly built more original shape that is akin to the Dragonfly style of a larger rear hump that curves in. (Claw)  * Darmoshark M3 is a fairly solid original shape and has very solid QC while being very good for a lot of grip styles (All) **#** * Darmoshark M3S is a smaller version of the M3 and is again very good quality and a very good overall style and feel. (Claw/Ftip) **#** * Keychron M1 is a very solid mouse with a solid original shape. It’s along the same style as a viper in terms of shape but is original overall and has very good QC as do all their mice with a lower overall profile (All) **#** * Keychron M2 is their ergo mouse that is extremely solid with a good shape that’s more original and thinner towards the front than most. A lot of Ergos do not try to be like this. It also has a mini shape as well.(Claw/Ftip) **#** * Keychron M3 is their more clad dedicated ergonomics where it’s a larger rear  and goes thinner. Due to this it’s not as good for all grip styles but is excellent for claw style. (Claw) **#** * Keychron M4 is a pure fingertip grip style. For it’s price it’s kinda wild to find a dedicated fingertip grip mouse this cheap however it’s curves are not to everyone's preferences (Ftip ONLY)  * Keychron M7 is a G502 styled mouse that is also extremely good quality but a more original shape like their others. (Claw/Palm)  * Delux M900 is an ergo original shape but close to a Deathadder shape and is fairly decent in terms of feel. (Claw/Palm) * Zaopin Z2 is an ergo with a more asymmetrical shape at it's core, with a solid shape and very solid built quality (Claw/Palm)  **#** * Darmoshark N5 is a newer very solidly built Ergo mouse that is a more original style with a harsher curve into the front from the more ergo side (Claw/Palm)  * Zowie EC2 (Wired) Most people don’t consider that Zowie mice are like under 50$ USD for the wired versions. The EC2 is what \*most\* ergo mice are based on and are very solidly build, arguably some of the better built mice out there and are beloved by many for it. (Claw/Palm) **#** * Zowie FK1/ZA11/S1 (Wired) are all  original claw styled mice that is meant to be gripped in a traditional claw shape and are what a lot of other mice ended up based on as well but you could use anything if you wanted. (All) **#** * End Game Gear OP1 Wired (Wired) This is what a lot of mice are based on as EGG has some of the better mice on market in terms of quality and built and software. It's one of the best mice you can buy. (Claw) **#** * Redragon G49/M916 is a more traditional Sora/Atlantis shape style with questionable QC (Claw/Ftip) * LTC GM022/Valkyrie M1 is a stretched Xtrfy M8 with not great click quality (Claw/Ftip) * Dareu A950 Pro a blend of GPX and a Finalmouse Hourglass shape (subtle hourglass), has decent QC but the magneisum version is not as good on clicks (All) * UHURU WM09 is a very safe shaped ambi mouse that works for most all grip styles but mostly more palm and fingertip as it's not got a ton of curves (Palm/Ftip) * Projects Gaming Sleeper is another safe rounded ambi shape which is often 20$ or less (All) * AULA SC680 is a mixture of GPX and Waizowl Cloud meaning it's a GPX with a little more curves to it. (Claw/Ftip) * Fantech Aria XD7 is a larger EGG chaped mouse overall that is much like the Orochi and Zaopin Z1 (All) * Taidu TSG808 is a safe ambi shape with a larger rear and solid sensor (Claw) * Taidu TSG608 Max is an ergo/ambi style much like the Incott Ghero and is solid for multiple grips (All) * Kysona M511/ Carpo V903 is a solid ergo shape that is much like the Darmoshark N5 and is closer to a traditional Zowie styled ergo shape (Palm/Claw) * Rapoo VT9 is a fairly safe traiditional curved mouse with seemingly heavy curves in, bit of an odd shape (Claw?) * Rapoo VT1 seems to be a GPX with some harsher curves making it more suited for claw grip (Claw) * GITOPER G2 a small but extremely curved Atlantis styled mouse with questionable QC (Claw) * UtechSmart Venus Pro is an MMO ergo mouse, one of the very few MMO mice i've seen for cheap (Claw/Palm) * ATK Z1 is a new ergo shape from ATK, very similar to other ergos but original enough. (Claw/Palm) * Attack Shark R6 is a more original shape from Attack Shark that is a larger rear hump that thins out as it goes forward, the feel is like stuff like the Sora and is at 39g with 8k (Claw/Ftip) * MCHOSE L7 is an original feeling shape that fits somewhere between the X2V2 and the Atlantis Mini, come more curves than the pure flatness of the X2, but still very capable for most grip styles. A little smaller but very well built with 8k (All) **CLONES:** * VXE R1 It’s a very solid mouse that is a near identical X2 style clone. It’s got a little bit less in terms of curves inside so it’s actually a narrower, flat shape, but overall very solid. The pro model has a much better coating and implementation of it’s sensor as well and is generally worth the amount more it costs. It’s extremely well built QC wise. (Claw/Ftip) **#** * Incott HPC02 is a hotswappable X2 which is fairly high quality and allows you to try multiple different switches easily (All) **#** * Attack Shark X6 is another X2 clone that is fairly solid but has mixed quality control (Claw/Ftip) * Ajazz AJ219 Is a X2 clone as well with slightly more curves alone the backside. Widely considered to be the Attack Shark X6 but worse. (Claw/Ftip)\* ATK X1 Is a pretty much exact clone of the Razer Viper V3 Pro Clone. It’s got worse side buttons as Razers tend to be fantastic but it’s still overall just an exact same shape and feel, albeit with no coating. (All) * Attack Shark X3 has a solid shape like a smaller G Pro Superlight (GPX) and fairly solid feel that comes in 1k or 4k, there’s quite a few mice like this so i’ll put them all in a row one after another. (All) * Attack Shark X11 is a Viper V3 clone but with a worse sensor (3311) which has bad skates and a texture but with grip tape and new skates is alright if you wanna test the shape (All) * Kysona M600 is pretty much the same as the Attack Shark X3 with a slightly better build quality. (All) * Machose A5 is much the same, a smaller GPX but more of an exact GPX shape. (All) * Ajazz AJ199 Is again a smaller GPX shape. (All) * Ajazz AJ139 Is also a GPX shape if you can believe it (All) * Zaopin Z1 Pro is a traditional egg shape (like the food not End Game Gear). It’s great for fingertip or a weird claw but is fairly small for an Egg shape. If you like the Orochi it’s nearly identical. (Claw/Ftip) * Puretrak Valor is literally just a superlight. However it’s like a third the price of a superlight with a 3395 sensor. This mouse is technically 120$ Since i first saw it a year ago it’s been on sale for 35$ on their website. If it’s always on sale it’s never on sale. (All) **#** * Incott G23 is a very solid built mouse with a near identical shape to the GPX while also having hot swappable switches if you wanna try out some different feeling clicks (All) # * Delux M800 Is a near exact clone of the Viper V2 and is fairly solidly built. (All) * Delux M600 Is a near exact clone of the Viper Mini and is also fairly solidly built. (Claw/Ftip) * Phlyina S450 is a HTS+ clone that's arguably extremely good on QC and makes a normally hundred dollar mouse down to like a fourth the price. To go farther than that they are working on a 38g 8k version of it and already have a 4k one. It’s one of the best built mice on this list. (Claw/Ftip) **#** * Keychron M6 Is a MX Master clone but weighs less and has a gaming mouse modern sensor. (Claw/Palm) **#** * Attackshark R1/Metapanda01 both mice use the exact same shell and are the exact same shape. They are both slightly smaller Deathadder V3s and the differences is the sensor, the R1 uses a worse sensor that above 1,000 dpi has very bad issues, but below is actually pretty much fine and will be mostly fine for everyone. (Palm/Claw) * Ajazz AJ199 Pro Is the same shape and style as the one above but a solid ergo (Palm/Claw) * Monka M3 is a solid Sora V2 Clone great for specifically claw grip (Claw mainly) * HELLO GANSS FLX3 is a solid ergonoimic Thorn Clone (Palm/Claw) * Vancer Gretxa is a finalmouse clone with an older sensor but overall i've heard good things about it (All) * Ajazz Aj099 is Zowie S2 clone meaning it's got a real fat rear and is great for claw with an older sensor (3311) (Claw mainly) * Ajazz AJ179 is a Outset AX clone which is fairly solid and new so reviews still need to release more (Claw/Palm) * RAWM SA-MH01 is a Viper V3 styled clone with hot swap switches for ease of trying multiple others to find what you like (All) * RAWM SA-ML01 is a Viper V2 styled clone with hot swap switches for ease of trying multiple others to find what you like (All but claw more) * RAWM SA-SL01 is a Viper Mini styled clone with hot swap switches for ease of trying multiple others to find what you like (Claw/Ftip) (see what i did there?) * Fantech Helios XD5 GO is a IE3.0 Micro styled shape which is somewhat of an hourglass traditional shape with a slightly older sensor and bad battery life (All) * Fantech Helios II XD3 is a S2 clone meaning it's a more traditional styled shape with an hourglass with a larger backend, mainly great for claw grip (Claw Mainly) * Edifier Hecate G3M is a hotswappable HTS clone which is a fairly solid and well enjoyed shape while allowing you to test multiple other mice switches (All) * iRocks M31R is a Darmoshark N3 clone which is a solid original shape (and also on this list in the original listing) (All) * iRocks HE3 is a viper mini styled mouse with a replaceable battery but not much else but does come in 4k for cheap (All) * Incott G24 is a EC2 and hotswappable meaning it's a really solid ergo mouse with hotswap which Incott is known for (Palm/Claw) **#** * VXE MAD R is a Z2V2 clone Super lightweight at 37g with a shape made for any shape. (any) **#** * ATK X1 is a Viper V3 Pro clone with a solid build. It's the same company as VXE and is solid build. * Scyrox V8 has its parent company from Lamzu but is a SORA V2 clone and is the same shape and weight. Very high quality build and very solid mouse. **#** Most of these mice use the 3395 sensor and are wireless and are all sub 60$ on Aliexpress or other websites.  You may be asking now "wow that's a lot of mice! how do I pick one for me?" or "What's the best mouse here overall?" and i'll tell you how to decide that for yourself. It entirely comes down to your handsize and grip style. There is no endgame best mouse for everyone. Everyone has a different grip style and hand size. Grip styles also change. I was using a X2V2 Mini before I just decided to try a Dav3 Pro randomly and ended up loving it and now main that which is the hardest reversal of grips and mouse you could just about do. I tried to mention based on a more medium hand size the different grip styles for each mouse. Figure out what you like and prefer and then aim for a mouse like that. A good thing you could do is get something like the Attack Shark X3 which is solid for as low as 12$ at times and use that to figure out what your proper grip style is then look more into the best mice in the grip style you prefer to find the right one for you. There’s plenty of other mice on the way or coming out soon as the cheap chinese mice market is going kinda wild with how many keep getting released and are just upcoming. Rapoo VT3 i just heard about today and the Incott G24 larger traditional Ergo is still on the way. I plan to be updating this list as it goes and would take feedback on it if you have any! *# on the mouse meant I heavily recommend it.* Edit: Added more mice based on suggestions for numerous people but u/manpalanges gets extra credit for making a very large list!

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads. Keyboard wise you can get the Madlions Hall Effect Wooting clone for about 50$.

I own vxe R1 ...great mouse . The best Value for money in that price segment

Yup I use it vgn atk hub web app which runs directly on browsers no need to install anything

Value wise, 100%. I also prefer the shape of the VXE R1, but the GPX is one of the most popular gaming mice for a reason. The shape is safe for most people.

My vxe r1 been going strong

Forget the g305, check out the vgn r1. It's better, cheaper and lighter than the g305

Wired G Pro was my main and loved the fuck out of that mouse. Bought a G pro super light 2 and realized how current mouses with current sensor, chip, and lighter weight really makes a difference for that extra 3% advantage. VXE dragonfly R1 pro max is also a mouse that for the price obliterates even the super light for $70. If you really love the shape of the g pro or g305 there is also the Mchose g3 that is about to be released that is lighter, and way better sensor and chip just not sure of the price yet but it’s from aliexpress so probably very cheap. My 2 cent for another G pro/g305 lover. Happy fragging guys and girls. 🖤

I got my friend an VXE R1another a Delux M800 pro 3370 and I am using a 3370 myself. Wireless is a nice option to have when I am out and about and doesn't want to deal with a wire in my bag. If you dislike wireless you could always use the usb cable as a wire for your mouse not just charging. I got them for about 20 to 30 USD but do note I live close to China so those mouses are cheaper to get. Unfortunately good software only comes with name brand mouses and they are still charging ridiculous price for a wireless mouse. If you don't care about software get a Chinese wireless mouse.

what is your budget? if it is within 3k. Get VGN VXE r1 or r1 se+ or the madlions mouse

I’d recommend a Vxe r1 if you have smaller hands if you have bigger hands I’d look at mice by mchoose they have a good selection

aliexpress mice are really premium nowadays. i'd just forego the expensive brands entirely and get a vxe r1 or redragon hero pro 4k.

This will sound like an exaggeration but since getting the R1 Pro Max, I haven't touched my ULX Cheetah, Beast X or Beast X Mini. I straight up prefer it over all of them, regardless of price. Between the subpar QC of the ULX and the horrific battery of the Beast X, the R1 just works for me. The shape is awesome, the build quality is better and the coating is surprisingly top notch. And it still lasts like 3 weeks before I need to charge it. Oh and the web based software smokes the Beast X (ULX software is great though). Only concern is double clicking. I haven't experienced it on mine, but supposedly the Kailh White Swords on the Pro Max are prone to double click. I wish it just used BSPDs. I've literally never had a bad click experience with BSPDs.