VXE - Dragonfly R1 SE

R1 SE yung usual reco ng mga tao under 1k | Component | Link | Part | Price | Comment | |---|---|---|---|---| | **Accessories** | [LINK]() | Wireless Mouse Lazada PAW3395 VXE Dragonfly R1 SE | 900 (**900**) | |

idk man, i have 20x10 hands, and the vxe r1 is pretty well sized(though i use finger tip grip)

but even though the equivelent in wired weighs less. its only going to be around 4 grams less, and as stated before, when you mouse is =<30\~ grams, its going to be a poor experience, as the cable dragging on the mouse pad will throw off your concentration. while it may not make you aim worse, its still annoying. rn im maining a vxe r1 se+ thats been heavily moddified and weighs 29g, and its wired, and despite doing a ziptie mod to the cable to raise it off the desk, it still bothers me, and the only reason i have boughten a 150mah battery is because even with a 580mah, i only get 35 hours of battery life, so with 150mah, i might get 8 hours if im lucky, and 3 of those hours wont even be usable as after the battery hits 30% the mouse goes into low power mode which feels like shit.

well the reason for this is because there is no mouse for everyone. everyone wants something different. and people have different experiences. lets take the attack shark x3. great mouse. great build quality. but i had a shitty experience because of my hand size. for the mice i recomended. the g3 is closest to the shape you want. teh vxe r1 is just amazing in general but not really the shape you want. the x11 is kinda meh. not great specs and not the shape you want, kinda big tbh. but its cheap. another option is the attack sahrk x3. it may have not been good for me but my hands are huge. and it is a shape that is smaller and the community loves it. its just a viper mini shape

I am using the Basillisk v3 for single player games, it's really good. You can also consider the vxe r1 if you are into esports titles.

Although if you are already spending 2.5k on the cobra I would recommend spending 100 rupees extra and getting the Vxe R1 se+ from meckeys. It's a proper esports mouse and it's wireless.

Sensor, switches and encoder. The pro is great but for someone getting started R1SE+ is fine. Also the most value for money mouse in the lineup would be the Vxe R1 for 2900.

Sensor, switches and encoder. The pro is great but for someone getting started R1SE+ is fine. Also the most value for money mouse in the lineup would be the Vxe R1 for 2900.

To give you the gist of it. 1. VXE R1 has a better flagship sensor compared to Razor. 2. VXE is wireless and Razor is wired. Although it doesn't have an amazing battery life and you will need to charge often. 3. Vxe has 4000hz polling rate compared to razer cobra's 1000hz. Personally I think above 1000hz polling rate are gimmicks. Also you will have to pay extra for the 4000hz dongle. 4. Razor has better switches but Huano mechanical switches in vxe are nothing to scoff at either. 5. Razor has RGB, Vxe is completely stealthy. 6. Razor cobra is more grippy out of the box, you might need to use grip tapes with the VXE. 7.Vxe is lighter by around 10grams.

G pro wireless, first thing to go was the side buttons and then the scroll wheel + double clicking issue. Now I'm just rocking vxe R1 SE+ and it's been solid, for 1/4 of the cost.

There is no Coating on the R1 SE+, while the A9 Plus onwards gets a coating. The X1 series has coatings as standard

the fact that you could buy a $13 VXE R1 SE+ with prolly 8-9/10 quality of this

Voice for r1 se+ using it for the last couple months very good compared to my g304 as it's lighter and has the same but marginally better sensor

I've been using it for 9 months, and sometimes I have to tap it 2 or 3 times to get it to turn on.

Just so that you know, from AliExpress you can get vxe r1 se+ with 3311(rebranded 3335) for around 20$ with welcome deal, or vxe r1 with 3395 and decent switches for around 30$, best option would be getting vxe r1 pro but it could cost around 30-35$ if you find it on sale, though i don't know how it is buying from AliExpress for you

Just so that you know, from AliExpress you can get vxe r1 se+ with 3311(rebranded 3335) for around 20$ with welcome deal, or vxe r1 with 3395 and decent switches for around 30$, best option would be getting vxe r1 pro but it could cost around 30-35$ if you find it on sale, though i don't know how it is buying from AliExpress for you

Sometimes on temu or aliexpress you can find ajazz aj159 or aj179 below 20$, i would say get it because it has real 3395 or get vxe r1 se+, it has well implemented 3311 and nice software overall

on sales its below 20$, I have vxe R1 i got for 12$ from aliexpress in my collection

13 usd is crazy, im seeing 25 usd minimum on aliexpress, please drop the link i wanna get it as a backup mouse

thank u man and happy birthday i think (im not sure but cake so hbd)

Your welcome, i checked around local stores and theres one listing for only 3$ more for the 500mah model, i think ill go with the local listing cz of the faster shipping time also bcz i believe shopee and lazada arent available in my country :(, anyways i really appreciate u helping me out man thank you

oo i just wanted to update u i bought the r1, can i ask hows the coating holding up for ur mouse? My aerox 3 wireless has worse build quality then this and its surprising that its more expensive then this

\+1 dito. 1 year na yung sakin no issues naman.

I wonder how it compares to the vxe r1 se+? (Such a convoluted name lol) Since that's also a Logitech clone I think. And also thanks lol.

I wonder how it compares to the vxe r1 se+? (Such a convoluted name lol) Since that's also a Logitech clone I think. And also thanks lol.

No way I can stretch to 2k mb. And I can find a vxe r1 se+ for 1.2k. I don't think 3395 is worth that much

bro i purchased the vxe r1 se plus and it is the BEST PURCHASE EVER for me hahahah. cheap and doing good, 3 weeks already lol. may it last forever hahaha.

A G304 has more double click issues than VXE R1, even though Logitech is largest peripheral brand and VXE is a.. let's just say new brand. If u want a trusted and mainstream brand mouse, go for the razer cobra. Same easy warranty like Logitech and optical switches which never double click. *** And other standard mice to get in this price range are Ducky Feather B&W, EVGA X12 but these along with the cobra are all wired. If u want wireless: ATK A9, RK M30, VXE R1 SE+ would be my reccs.

A G304 has more double click issues than VXE R1, even though Logitech is largest peripheral brand and VXE is a.. let's just say new brand. If u want a trusted and mainstream brand mouse, go for the razer cobra. Same easy warranty like Logitech and optical switches which never double click. *** And other standard mice to get in this price range are Ducky Feather B&W, EVGA X12 but these along with the cobra are all wired. If u want wireless: ATK A9, RK M30, VXE R1 SE+ would be my reccs.

yep, best in that range

Buy cosmic byte firestorm it is the best mouse for 1k. Using it for 1.5 years. If you want wireless go for vxe r1 se+(Mech keys).

R1 SE+ is unbeatable at $17 and has web software - S Tier

The only problem i have in this mouse is when im using it via dongle or bt my laptop's wifi has interferance and disconnects or lose connection. So i just use it wired connection, still a good mouse , can still 1k polling rate via wired.

dont get the SE — get the SE+

well if you compare it to the + then yes (better battery and switch) and for the price difference, no point in getting the non + version.

VXE R1 SE+/Pro or Kysona Aztec

got my r1 se+ for around 900. overseas shop in orange app

Its still out for shipping haha paid 934 to be exact. [here](https://ph.shp.ee/rf2E6nE) its an overseas shop so might take a while (they are still on sale now if you plan to grab one). The + version is named long endurance, confirmed it with the seller and in photo reviews

yeah, and a better switch as well. Either get the SE+ or Pro. the non plus aint so great and no point getting the non-pro for the price diff to pro version

Get the R1, wont find much else better if at all for the price.

imo the regular sku gets over shadowed by the se and pro via price or performance, and the pro max is just. +6g on battery throwing off weight balance and adding a tad extra weight for hours of battery life you won't notice unless you have it on always on max polling. but if you really want 500mah because of battery life then you're also not the type of person to want 4k so in that case the se+ is better. also i pretty sure you can get the mad r for the price of the pro max which would be an even better mouse with a very similar shape

imo the regular sku gets over shadowed by the se and pro via price or performance, and the pro max is just. +6g on battery throwing off weight balance and adding a tad extra weight for hours of battery life you won't notice unless you have it on always on max polling. but if you really want 500mah because of battery life then you're also not the type of person to want 4k so in that case the se+ is better. also i pretty sure you can get the mad r for the price of the pro max which would be an even better mouse with a very similar shape

If you are going for wireless get Atleast the g304 for around 2000 if you can add 500 more then you can get the current best mouse which is vxe r1se

Logitech had issues with that even on higher end mice aswell but they do provide 2 years of support else if you can spend extra get the vxe r1se

I actually have the se+ version and so far so good, the only regret I have is not getting the pro version. just go see reviews in yt, vxe r1 pro is always in the top 3 best budget mouse

I think the coating, the pro version feels more premium but the se+ version don’t feel that bad it’s just that the pro version is better in terms of coating

I don't see any correlations between Marvel Rivals rank and gear but i use AJAZZ 179p & VXR R1 SE on top of a cordura mousepad branded MYNK (i think it's locally made in my country) quality wise it's equal if not better than CoolerMaster MP510 cordura mousepad

I have the VXE R1 Se+ and am really happy with the purchase, though I also switched the switches to silent, since they were to loud for my taste

any lod issues with this mouse? i recently got this mouse a few days ago and i wrist aim while playing fps games but every time i lift my mouse up, the sensor still tracks movement and its just so annoying lol

vxe r1 series is better imo, but you do you edit: why is this getting downvoted? i clearly said in my opinion

yeah r1 se+ is great for fingertip, relaxed claw, 1-3-1. it's not great for people with medium sized hands that palm grip though.

Mouse - VXE R1 SE+ Mousepad - Playmax 3 Keyboard - Cougar Vantar S I am currently mainly playing ULTRAKILL, Quake, Risk of Rain 2 and Roboquest.

For anyone who has been waiting, even privately chatting me without answer, I'm very sorry for the long awaited review. In short, We moved houses where there was no internet for a long time, I don't even have a permanent setup current ;-; and will change setup again once I moved to my apartment in college. But enough said, here is my review of the vxe r1 se+: Sensor performance: for 800 Php (13 usd) tri mode gaming mouse, this thing is fantastic! 3335 is already an advanced sensor for something even below 1k Php (18 usd) believe it or not and I have faced no issues when using the mouse on gaming and productivity whatsoever. Switches: Based on my research, the mouse uses Huano blue shell pink dot switches(?) so far the click quality is decent, it has little to no mushy feel and it is a bit more linear feel than my old mouse, the Rakk Talan, which has a more tactile feel. Same goes for the side buttons, although no issues on the position or placement the buttons. And the scroll wheel is fine, thats all I can say. Build Quality: Now this is where things get impressive. Last night, I accidentally dropped the mouse, and I should you not it bounced twice on the floor. I thought it would break or it wouldn't again but damn! For something so light at 55 grams and so cheap, this thing is impressive! Although there is minimal creaking and I don't know if its because it literally did stunts on the floor or theres actually creaking out of the box that I didn't know until now (I'm a very paranoid type of person ;-;). Overall, the mouse's build quality is amazing, gaming tech like keyboards and mice really are evolving. You can get the quality of a 100$ gaming mouse in a less than 20$ chinese one. Connectivity: No issues whatsoever, I even tried the bluetooth connectivity on my phone and it works like a charm (even played around in my phone a bit hehe) Overall: For its price, this mouse is above 10/10! For 7 months, even got dropped on the floor, the mouse still performs well that even puts high-end mice to shame. I remember back then that even a 60-70$ mice like the old Glorious Model O had a lot of issues especially on build quality, technology is truly evolving and I do recommend this mouse to anyone who wants a decent gaming mouse and is also on a tight budget like I am. That's all, and again, apologies for the wait. Stay safe everyone :).

Im an osu player, and its the only game i fingertip with. I can safely say that no, this mouse is too big for you to fingertip all the way (at least in my experience).

Oh i forgot to talk about that, while the coating is better than my old mouse because its more textured, it only has the average coating of a mouse and not that "frosty feel" like the pro and pro max versions. And its a dirt magnet if its the white version. I can safely say that because i had to clean the mouse the other day cuz the blackness of the dirt is getting too visible hehe

I owned VXE R1 SE+ , Zaopin Z2 and ATK X1S but personally i'd recommend to use R1 SE+ as the price is too good with the performance and claw grips as well

Sorry, but your arguments is kinda weak. Everyone still moves their mouse, so weight is still matter a lot. And there is a lot of stuff like VXE R1 SE+ for 30 freedom units, that weights 55g.... P.s. I had a long time ago G502, so i know what a brick it is :D

my vxe r1 (non-pro) came in the mail today and after using it for a few hours, this thing absolutely rocks my socks. i got it for [$16.66](https://imgur.com/c77dCui) from aliexpress and it came to my door within a week. i know this thing has been reviewed to death so I won't do a write-up. however, I was amazed at the user experience for the price point that I paid. I was fully expecting the experience to be either bad or filled with compromises but honestly, I have nothing but good things to say about the r1. the build quality is solid. the sensor/wireless/click implementation seems good. and this is where I am confused. why should I continue to pay $100-150 for a wireless gaming mouse when I can get the same experience for a fraction of the price?

Vxe dragonfly got a range of budget to pushing it the pro max i got was about $50 you can check aliexpress for it

Never buy se+, go for regular r1 or r1+.

Vxe r1, atk a9 plus

Attack Shark R1 is my sub mouse. Deathadder v3 shape but slightly smaller. VXE R1 is okay din if mas maliit trip mo Both can be sub 1k https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=attack-shark-r1-vs.-razer-deathadder-v3-pro-vs.-vxe-r1

VXE R1 or Mchose M7 are great for tac fps imo.

VXE R1. Amazing mouse for the price

I agreed with several points you brought up, thank you! Some explanations about my choices: - ATK X1 I considered the Ultra version with the PAW 3950 Ultra sensor - VXE R1 I also considered the Pro version which has the PAW 3395 and 4k polling rate, it is balanced for the price of what it delivers, but it clearly has better - Regarding the price of the Float, I considered the version that has a minimally decent battery to use 8k polling rate, if I'm not mistaken the 88S. It also has a 1k polling rate version, but with a 240mAh battery it's kind of difficult, in my opinion - Regarding the "copies" of GPX, yes it ends up being subjective, mainly due to quality control, service and several additional factors, but in this situation I meant in terms of sensor capacity and shape similarity About the opinions I agree with is that maybe the X3 can be downgraded to "Cheap but not high" really and I can include the MAD R and MAD G in the next list too :D

There is no best mouse tbh it's shape dependant. Lamzu (Thorn, Maya, Atlantis), Pulsar (X2, or Xlite), Razer (Viper or Deathadder), Logitech (G Pro), VXE (R1 or Mad R) Just a few brands to look into and check shapes on^ There are loads of decent mice out there these days though. Just look for something with either a PAW3395 or the newer PAW3950 sensor. Can save quite a lot of money and still get a competitive mouse by going with a Chinese brand like VXE, Lamzu, or Scyrox, etc. Some of these have Web based software also which imo is vastly better than razers Synaps and Logitechs GHub. AimAdept on YouTube has lots of videos on gaming mice.

eveything on the list is different size...so first decide ur size that is comfortable for u.. i personally use VXE r1...go for it if u are looking for a medium-small hands...its equalent to GPX ITS JUST AMAZINGGGG..i got it for 2.9k from meckeys

Using vxe R1 from 2 months, very lightweight and good performance, ordered from meckeys, one of the best mouse if not the best, under 3000₹

It's built well and has a nice coating on it. Charges fast and battery lasts a long time.feels very light weighing only 48 grams. I personally don't like the shape. The hump fills out my palm a little more than I'd like and there's is little to no curvature on the sides. Feels a little wide for my liking. The scroll wheel is pretty stiff and sits high up. But if you're looking for a shape like it it's hard to beat for the price. Honestly one of the most premium feeling budget mice I've tried. Id say the best model is the r1 pro because of the sensor but the smaller battery to save some weight.

If you like claw grip or fingertip grip go for VXE or logi. But if you prefer plam grip go for lpx clone by ATK and Razer. I found mad r to be very good for shooting flicks and shooting VXE R1 is very same shape as Mad R. ATX A7 is good for plam grip but they feel right for spray control but for flicks nothing beats shapes like VXE R1. Sensor and performance wise expect logi and Razer rest are very good for price. Logi and Razer charges a lot for brand name but they feel cheaper in hand compared to VXE or ATK. And performance is also better on Chinese alternatives.

I have MX3 it's click started to miss while dragging stuff on PC in a year but I am a heavy users my other colleagues are still going strong with MX3s been 3 year. Logi give 2 year warranty, you have to mail them with a letter and invoice to get replacement. They usually send replacement in 2 weeks. R1 is same as Mad R not ATK in context of shape. [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=atk-a9-vs.-vgn-r1](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=atk-a9-vs.-vgn-r1) https://preview.redd.it/32gj4glu32rf1.png?width=1220&format=png&auto=webp&s=229c8c142b5a9c05a0e4366d2a89a741cf04fc7c Like I told R1 is good for claw or fingertip grip not palm due to back jump while A9 have mid jump suitable for palm grip. Just for your info.

I settled with the Zaopin z2 for work. A little heavier at 60 plus grams and the Vxe r1 and the mad r major for gaming. Lightest mouse I could find in 2024. 3 mice with heavy application of grip tapes on the sides. I find that flatter sides for the thumb and pinky finger helps alleviate the pain. Darmoshark N5 is another I could recommend, I didnt like the heavy clicks.

i have same grip and vxe r1 is really good u can try if u want

Bro buy something like vxe r1 for 2400 or if ur okay with used go to imkc discord and buy something from there

i bought vxe r1 and replaced my g102, so far so good

Go with r1 OP! I was in your same spot. Was thinking I'll buy g304. But r1 is much lighter. Better senser, where you can reduce LOD as well. And just.. so good! Ive couples it with aqua control 2 mousepad and its been an amazing experience. I charge it maybe once in 5 days or so.. but it just take one match on wired, to bring it back to 100 percent. Never a discomfort. The online webpage mouse settings customisation is also v convenient. Best bang for buck at this price range. If u reaally want g304 shape, you can go with mchose g3. But yes just go with vxe r1. Not the se version. But just r1.

It will depend on your grip type, but your best shot would be between Attack shark X11 (if you prefer palm grip), or VXE R1 (if you use claw grip, or VXE mad R (if you use claw and don't mind the price difference between the R1).

Hearing that your mouse stopped working is very weird, I've only had battery issues with mine but those only appeared after like 1-2 years of usage. What's your hand size and grip type though? If you have small/medium hands and use claw grip then the VXE mad r and r1 are very solid.

Which one i have several, in my comment though i was referring to VXE R1 (the mad R is a newer and improved version though).

Mouse: VXE R1 Mousepad: Alpha Unltd Extended Mousepad Keyboard: Royal Kludge RK84 with Akko Cream Yellow V3 switches Main FPS games: Modern Warfare 3

I have 22 cm and vxe R1 is really small in my hands, i suggest you the Zowie EC2

vxe r1 for wireless, viper mini for wired. those 2 are the best mice when it comes to value at this price range

Sora V2, Vxe r1, Mad R, L7 ultra+ are a bit wider than op1 with similar back hump profile. Pulsar X2 is wider Xm2 is widest

Yup I got the Vxe r1 for like 16 dollars and I was amazed how the quality resembles logitech g pro 1. no issues with it so far. I don't think I would ever buy a mouse over 50 dollars tbh. 2nd market buying

i guess i was a bit unlucky, got my first vxe r1 black with no problem and got the vxe r1 se with a weird click

I would recommend avoiding most of those brands if you are on a budget. Something like the VXE r1, Redragon M916/M918, Royal Kludge M30 or M3 or any of a number of lesser known brands will give better performance for cheaper. Edit: the HyperX pulsefire Haste 2 doesn't look to bad for the price given the limited time deal on Amazon. What is probably a paw3395 sensor, 53 grams for $39 isn't a terrible price. Wouldn't be my first choice, but it isn't awful

VXE R1 SE+ will be better than anything except the HyperX Pulsefire Haste 2 from your list, while probably being significantly cheaper.

If budget is $30 VXE R1. If budget is $60 Scyrox V8.

Idk my hands are pretty big 19.5 x 10.5 but i really do not understand the hype behind the shapes of the l7 and mad R for example. I main the vxe r1 and its very comfortable, the mchose l7 just feels short and awkwardly wide, like the proportions dont make sense at all , i cant find a single comfortable grip, be that claw or ftip. And no i dont have alien hands. I understand we are all diffrent with diffrent preferences but i dont really understand this one. Same goes for the mad r that i find significantly more uncomfortable than the r1 , but people keep calling it an upgrade.

I've never said buy a g pro, I actually hate that mouse. I literally said buy a vxe r1 for that price

Coulda got a vxe r1 for that price but instead got an MMO mouse lmao

Vxe R1. Check in neomacro and meckeys

Sensor lags. Get R1 only. Else go for wired like razer cobra

G304 is 100grams. VXE R1 is 50 grams. Easier for flicks on low sensitivity

Go on Eloshapes to find the right size. As for where to get them, check Meckeys, Neomacro,Genesis PC and EscKey. Also, don't get the Hx , it's not worth the price. I'd suggest the Vxe R1(if the shape fits).

Naah, there's no perceivable difference between the 3395 and 3950, as long as you don't go over 26k DPI😅. The shape is very close and even the weight difference is 2g. Save your money and get the R1 unless you plan on using 36k DPI.

Yes VXE R1 is the best. Its a nice mouse

Go on meckeys. Com and get vxe r1, i use this mouse & I can’t lie this shit is soooo gooodddd If you’re budget is ablve 3k+

People that recommend the Viper Mini either havent tried it themselves or dont know better, that cable is stiff, thick so its not even compatible with mouse bungees I wouldn't subject a friend to that. The minimum I'd pay for a wired mouse with an actually good cable is around 2k for the Wired Razer and Pulsar options (Razer Deathadder V3 and Pulsar X2/X2H/Xlite Wired) and max at 3k-4k for the 8k options from Endgame Gear with good wired cables as well (OP1 8k and XM2 8k) at 1k the only reasonable option is VXE R1, whatever version you can get (avoid pro max, switches suck)

Rakk Dasig - heavy at 90g, outdated 3325 G102 - heavy at 85g, outdated 1855 Aula SC580 - heavy and another 3325, better build quality than Rakk Dasig at least Viper Mini - 3359 is old but acceptable, high lift off distance (preference), good but relatively slow skates. Actually usable weight (60 ish grams) too bad its discontinued and there are no viper minis that arent fakes below 1k, the razer cobra (viper mini replacement) starts at 2k. Hawk 1 - avoid Garuda Gear brand as a whole, too many quality control issues Attack Shark X11 - old 3311 sensor, avoid their sub 1k mice and go straight to 3395 like their Attack Shark X3 VXE R1 - build quality issue, luck of the draw depending on the batch you get. Go straight to R1 Pro for higher chance of better QC, issues dont show up until weeks or months in use (switches or scroll wheel is usually first to show issues, shell creaking and slam clicking problems as well but those are rarer with the model I mentioned) Only mouse I would consider from that list is VXE R1, but you're better off saving 2k+ for more better options

VXE R1 build quality issues, get MAD R instead MCHOSE also has build issues for the less premium models, try to get a "Pro" version at least for better chance at qc lottery Altho this goes for almost every mouse sub 3k and below, even the most "premium" budget mouse brand Scyrox still has these issues. Pray for a good model but expect to encounter issues like creaking and flexing sides or quickly worn out skates

>My 2 cents. I think theres a lot of mice below 50 that are good enough for most people's gaming. yeah one of them is the VXE R1. 6th on the first slide

my r1 is fantastic

Hand size and grip style? I think ur a newbie to mice and i recommend vxe r1 . Safe shape around 2k rs . Deathadder essential is polarising avoid it. Get safe shapes like m724 if budget under 1.5k, vxe r1 if budget under 3k Under 2k again id say extend and get r1. G102 is good shape but small for bug hands.

I find the concave left mouse button a bit weird to rest my index finger upon. But the mouse itself is superb! Battery life is really good too.

VXE R1, had a chance to use it for a week. My normal mouse is superlight 2 and it wasn't much worse.

This LTC mouse also is called an M1 Valkyrie and IFYOO G63, I believe. [Eloshapes size comparison](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=ltc-gm022-vs.-logitech-g-pro-x-superlight) [My Amazon Vine review with internal pics](https://amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2CNPK01G440AZ?ref=pf_ov_at_pdctrvw_srp) VXE R1 is an amazing mouse. My SE has better clickfeel than my R1 Pro, and the SE went on sale for $14 Superdeals Aliexpress. After Rakuten Cashback and coupons, you could get an R1 SE for like $11 and an R1 3395 for $20. Insane value. Super lightweight. Great scroll wheel, buttons, side buttons, skates, shape.... Really can't go wrong there. That said, this LTC mouse isn't *bad*. It's a unique shape (very narrow), low button height gimmick, and charging dock. I had no problems with the software and use it at 1600 dpi. Tech Power Up has great mouse reviews with objective performance data. I don't think they've reviewed this mouse. On average, well-known brands might have better performance (click latency, motion latency, polling stability, dpi deviation, etc), but as seen with the Redragon M916 K1NG vs Glorious Model O 2 Minus, bigger comapny doesn't *always* mean more reliable performance Edit: [Unboxing and disassembly video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGI3l7hLcnw) and [DayBoyGuru's video review](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZk6euObRfo). he talks about the software, not sure if the LTC uses the same software

I personally like my ajazz aj 179 pro (lamzu thorn clone for less than 30$) for valorant, but I would recommend the vxe r1 or mad r from aliexpress. I find I have better flicks and tracking on the smaller vxe r1, but I prefer the bigger ergo ajazz aj179 for stability in tactical shooters like valorant. Overall, I think the vxe r1or mad r(bit more expensive but lighter) would be better for most because most prefer claw grip.

Its just a bigger mouse that fills up the hand more. The r1 is smaller and allows for finger micro adjustments.

Personally, I'll go with one of the following: Logitech g304/305 or g502, Razer Orochi or Viper, Attack Shark X3, VXE R1, Fantech Aria XD7 (Currently using this)

Build quality wise of course the official ones are better, they better do looking at how much they costs. But comparing a Viper v3 and a Attack Shark X11, they are really close and certainly not $120 appart to me. Attack shark QC must be really random because each time its either "the things keeps losing track or disconnect" or "the thing is perfect". I have the R1 and the X11 both of them are perfect to me. Zero connection lost, no latency, things are dead spot on it's amazing what $20-30 got you nowadays.

Vxe r1 for sure

VXE R1 would be perfect for the size.

Bhai vxe r1 is a reall fantastic buy at this price range if you want logitech g pro clone if you have tried that shape, otherwise you can research and find a good one.

If you are playing competitive games. Then Yes. If not , then no. If you are playing competitive games, you are okay with wired mice , get the cooler master mm710(absolute best mouse under 2k , can get in elitehubs website , yea it's a trustable website), I would suggest saving up 3k for a VXE R1 , it's wireless with top of the line sensor and it's lightweight.

It's better built than the G pro x for sure 😂

Vxe r1 any day. I think it'll be back in stock on neo macro end of may. You can enquire on their discord about the restocking.

As a dav2x user, don't get it there are much better options for the price. The only reason I got it was to match my keyboard lol Get VXE R1 it used to be 2900 don't know the current price but it has the flagship PAW 3395 sensor nothing has it for the price

VXE R1 all Day. Absolute Budget King. Pulsar Clone. More for Fingertip or Claw

Yea feel it does that but idk gives me hand pain I think I need a za 12 kinda size one but ones like vxe r1 feel nicer if only it was a tiny bit thinner but not as thin as like op1

VXE R1 is really the go to mouse is this price bracket.

https://preview.redd.it/k54jgd84usue1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dee3ebd844fc06e83f28742022d81bdcfd0400f9 Get the vxe r1. For the price this is the best one you can get. I got mine from loadout but you can also buy it from meckeys. I wouldn’t wish kreo on my worst enemy. If you have any questions about the mouse feel free to dm me.

I completely understand. The mouse industry has come a long way since then. I collect a lot of mouse (it’s a problem I genuinely need help) and I can tell you you don’t need to break the bank or go for just the name brands these days. Vxe r1 is genuinely a very good mouse. It’s much lighter than orochi v2 as this does not require batteries. I find the vxe 1 shape better than the eggshell shaped mice. It has a web based software so you can get rid of synapse. A very good sensor and a decent battery life. All for just 2600 (the price I bought it at).

This can be an understandable take. The VXE R1 is great, but it literally took me 45 mins of setup for it to work for my s/o. Great mouse, love the shape, weight, and everything abt it, but to a normal consumer that just wants a plug & play mouse with simple instructions and a web / dedicated app like G Hub or Razer Synapse, it’s definitely a turn off for most. Along with the fact that this mouse is best bought off of AliExpress, which people have so many doubts about for some reason. It can be harder to get others to be interested. If I were to recommend an easily accessible but great mouse, it’d be the Hitscan Hyperlight.

Mchose L7 is a clone of the Pulsar X2 MINI but even slightly smaller than that. It's quite a tiny mouse. On the contrary, the logitech g304 despite it's appearance, it's actually quite a filling mouse because of how the egg shape forces your fingers apart and is quite wide in the middle, it would be quite the adjustment for you to get a mouse as small as the mchose L7. I would go for the normal pulsar x2 shape. Some clones of that would be the Mchose L7 Pro/Ultra PLUS(+). From atk/vxe you have the Vxe r1 and the vxe mad r. Atk/vxe mice are only available from aliexpress so shipping times are a lot longer, but personally I prefer their mice to mchose and they're also a lot cheaper. Everyday aliexpress has a deal of if you spend more than $X get $Y off. On top of that there are lots of coupon codes you can apply at checkout if you pay with paypal. I was able to get my Vxe mad r for $28. The vxe r1 is the older version of that and it's dirt cheap even before aliexpress coupons. Downside if using atk/vxe is their bullshit with releasing 10 versions of every mouse... SE, standard, plus, pro, promax, ultra... really annoying. You can find the differences by looking up the mouse on their website and scrolling down until you find their chart. If you decide to go the atk/vxe route and get confused lmee know if you have any questions.

I wouldn't recommend those mice get the vxe r1

R1 is lighter good for small hands and offers better value.

Throw that mouse away and buy the vxe r1

VXE R1. no logo, no holes, no lights. only the product name on the side.

doesnt really matter for me, id rather take a vxe r1 over a viper mini

I have 21 cm hands, vxe R1 is perfect, you can try it if you want, it will probably fit your grip, if you want a picture for reference, just dm me

can vouch for vxe r1, great mouse for its price. Replaced my g304 had double click issue.

if you are open to order from aliexpress or maybe it is on amazon too, i would recommend vxe r1 its small and very light mouse and has side button too. there is different version though, i think pro version is best. i used most of last year and it was great 😀

Vxe r1 Nearlink + MD Mousepad

It's good actually, it has a Pixart 3395 sensor, and a 500mah Battery. I play games and work evryday and the mouse can last 14 days with every day hard use. And It's very light

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads. Keyboard wise you can get the Madlions Hall Effect Wooting clone for about 50$.

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads

I have a more updated list here: * Incott Ghero Pro: Solid Mouse that feels like a GPX Ergo (or NP-01 Clone) and is extremely solidly build while staying price wise at 50$ * VGN Dragonfly F1: Solid orignial shape with a larger rear hump on the end that curves more inwards before coming out at the front, very safe shape at 46$ * ATK Blazing Sky F1: Shaped akin to a Sora V2 it's got a much larger rear hump with substantial curves as it comes into the front while going thinner towards it with lowered clicks. Is 38g and has a 3950 sensor but is usually a full 70$ * Darmoshark M3S: Solid Viper styled shape with those same bell curves, usually around 40$ * Zaopin Z2: Solid ergo light with a much smaller ergo feel yet still has a nice rounded bump and curve to it for the ergo feel at 50$ * Endgame Gear OP1 Wired: This is what a lot of mice are based on as EGG has some of the better mice on market in terms of quality and built and software. It's one of the best mice you can buy. It is wired but if you don't care about 4k or 8k it's perfectly fine at 45$ * VXE R1: Nearly identical to the Pulsar X2V2 it's got a super solid feel and the pro model has a better coating and overall well implemented sensor. Considered the king of the budgets it's 50$ for the Pro and as low as 20$ for not pro. * VXE Mad R: Identical to the mouse above in shape its another X2V2 clone perfect at 38g great for all grip styles, the Major verision has a 3950 sensor and is 45$ for normal, 63$ for Major, if you can grab this over the normal R1. * Incott HPC02M: is a X2 clone with supersolid build quality and the ability to swap the switches with ease. 55$ * PureTrak Valor: Clone of the GPX but with 3395 and USB-C that usually sells for sub 50$ * Incott G23: GPX clone with hotswappable switches at 50$ * Phlyina S450: HTS+ Clone with solid build quality and a really good mouse. They are working on a 38g version and have a 4k version around 40-50$ * Scyrox V8: Sora V2 clone at 38g with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 70$ * Attack Shark R6: Another Sora V2 Clone with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 50$. * ATK Blazing Sky X1: Viper V3 clone with 3950 and solid build quality right at the 70$ price range. * Incott G24: Zowie EC2 Clone that's hotswap and solid weight can be found for 70$ * Mchose L7: 38g with a shape somewhere between the Lamzu Atlantis and X2V2. It has flatter sides but still a larger rear curve to lock in slightly better than something like the Mad R while still feeling very premium. Basic model has 3395 for 45$ and pro is closer to 60$ for 3950. * Lethal LA-1: Basically a larger OP1. Same kind of curves but a larger overall feel, due to having some very small issues with the batch and to compete with budget mice it can now be found for 30$. * Razer Viper V3 Hyperspeed: While a bit heavier than most at 83g and using a AA battery, It still boasts a solid sensor and performance with a shape that people adore for 70$ * Scyrox V8 and V6: solid Sora clone and HTS+ clone both at around 40g with full 8k and solid internals. Very good overall and some of the best budget out there. 70$

I own vxe R1 ...great mouse . The best Value for money in that price segment

Yup I use it vgn atk hub web app which runs directly on browsers no need to install anything

Shape is king, so knowing what he likes makes it easy. Even the cheap chinese clones these days are excellent as long as you don't mind the non-existent customer service. They used to be a joke but things like the VXE R1 or Zaopin Z1 Pro frankly go toe to toe with the Pulsar X2 and Orochi that they're cloned from. Then you can spend the difference in price on a nice pad or enough dot skates to last you the rest of your life.

Value wise, 100%. I also prefer the shape of the VXE R1, but the GPX is one of the most popular gaming mice for a reason. The shape is safe for most people.

My vxe r1 been going strong

I got vxe r1 It's been serving me well, great mouse for 3k

very different shapes. a9 is like g pro x. x1 is razer viper. vxe r1 is a bit different, a bit more on the ergo side (relatively). ask chatgpt, it'll be useful

A9 is More of a claw grip with a hint of palm. Vxe r1 is more of a palm grip

I got my friend an VXE R1another a Delux M800 pro 3370 and I am using a 3370 myself. Wireless is a nice option to have when I am out and about and doesn't want to deal with a wire in my bag. If you dislike wireless you could always use the usb cable as a wire for your mouse not just charging. I got them for about 20 to 30 USD but do note I live close to China so those mouses are cheaper to get. Unfortunately good software only comes with name brand mouses and they are still charging ridiculous price for a wireless mouse. If you don't care about software get a Chinese wireless mouse.

what is your budget? if it is within 3k. Get VGN VXE r1 or r1 se+ or the madlions mouse

Vxe r1 super cheap, super simple, yet super effective. Comes with the paw 3395 as well, best sensor in the market. Get the r1 pro if it's within budget

It all depends on your budget. 50$? Vxe r1 / r1 pro. 100$? Maybe the death adder v3 there are TONS of options and it all comes down to your grip and hand size. Ask in r/mousereview . They know EVERYTHING about mice I spent a good load of research there before getting my mouse.

I’d recommend a Vxe r1 if you have smaller hands if you have bigger hands I’d look at mice by mchoose they have a good selection

Vxe r1 is the only mouse I can think of that’s good

I use a Vxe r1 and I love it. I also tried a mchoose L7 but it’s way too small for me.

Tbh the mice you've mentioned are specifically for gaming (fps/tac shooters). I don't think you should buy these if you're buying from a "productivity " pov. However, the vxe r1 and atk a9 are known to be very light, at around 45-55grams. They have good battery as well, so could be helpful for your use case.

You can buy them. They will perform better than any other mice you'll get in this range. I just wanted to give you a heads-up about the major use for these mice. Definitely go with whatever you like, I personally, can give my opinion about the vxe r1 as I have it. You can dm if you want to know about anything else.

aliexpress mice are really premium nowadays. i'd just forego the expensive brands entirely and get a vxe r1 or redragon hero pro 4k.

I used the 502 for around 5 years, it has the best shape imo, the grip I used was similar to yours, very comfortable. Switched to g102 for fps games, disliked the shape and feel, still much lighter than 502. Then to razer viper 8k, shape felt awkward to hold but better than g102. VXE R1 is what I use now. I would still prefer the shape and weight of 502 over anything for all non-gaming use.

>I have looked into other mice like the VXE R1s and Attack Sharks but the internet gives mixed reviews on the longevity and durability of them Yeah man, unfortunately mice like VXE R1s and others **will outlast** these Logitech and Steelseries mice.

I gambled and went for vxe r1. Holy shit I don’t regret and will probably never go back to wired mouse.. (btw this costed me 2.9k)

This is actually a good mouse with good battery backup.. I bought it on sept 4 and am using it ever since. Usually I play Valo,genshin etc. and is good for me. Its lightweight and the sensor is also good. If you can find it for under 3k then go for it. If you have too big of hand then dont.

Go for r1.. se plus has more battery but sensor is lower model compared to r1. Even I had to pre book and order.

So many budget bangers there. If people know what's up, all these brands will significantly discount their mice. I recommend zaopin z2, vxe r1 mad r, atk x1/f1. These mice uses 3395 sensor, 4k polling rate capable, high dpi, wireless and uses good switches. All for below 50 USD. They're more than 3x cheaper than what razer, Logitech puts out.