VXE - R1 Pro Max

i got scyrox v8 and vxe r1 pro max and superlight pro x. i like the vxe coating better than scyrox. vxe r1 pro max Tier S scyrox v8 Tier A superlight pro x Tier B

I agreed with several points you brought up, thank you! Some explanations about my choices: - ATK X1 I considered the Ultra version with the PAW 3950 Ultra sensor - VXE R1 I also considered the Pro version which has the PAW 3395 and 4k polling rate, it is balanced for the price of what it delivers, but it clearly has better - Regarding the price of the Float, I considered the version that has a minimally decent battery to use 8k polling rate, if I'm not mistaken the 88S. It also has a 1k polling rate version, but with a 240mAh battery it's kind of difficult, in my opinion - Regarding the "copies" of GPX, yes it ends up being subjective, mainly due to quality control, service and several additional factors, but in this situation I meant in terms of sensor capacity and shape similarity About the opinions I agree with is that maybe the X3 can be downgraded to "Cheap but not high" really and I can include the MAD R and MAD G in the next list too :D

EDITOR'S NOTES It finally came out, huh? lol A while ago, the list 1.0 of the best mice on AliExpress was posted here on Sub, which was focused on Low Budget and more cost-benefit than performance. In this list we focused on prioritizing mice that are also cost-effective but with High End quality (that's why you'll miss some models like the Attack Shark X6, X11, AJAZZ models and others). Remembering that this tier list is based on personal experiences, leave your comment respectfully if you disagree and leave your Up if you like the work! Without further ado, let's go :D WRITTEN TIER LIST - S+: Scyrox V8, Scyrox V6, Zaopin ZPW Max, ATK F1 Extreme, ATK X1 Ultimate - S: Attack Shark R3, VXE MAD R, Attack Shark R5, Delux M900 Ultralight 8K Set, ATK Z1, MCHOSE A7 Ultra, ATK A9 Ultra - A: VGN F1 Pro, VXE R1 Pro Max, Zaopin Z2 Mini Max, Zaopin Z1 - B: Fantech Aria II, IYX Amber, Incott G23 Pro, Helios II Pro - C: Rapoo VT3 Pro Max, Rapoo VT1 Pro, MCHOSE A5, Delux M800 4k ABOUT THE TOP OF THE LIST - Scyrox V8 and V6: These two mice manage to deliver ultra-light weight, excellent construction, marked scroll, great finish, the best sensor on the market and still have an affordable price. (Same shape: Pulsar X2H) - Zaopin ZPW Max: A new launch on the market with an ergonomic shape that fits practically any hand size and grip. Although ergonomic shapes tend to have some flaws in the construction of the main buttons, this mouse managed to achieve the perfect construction.All that said, it has 8K and an excellent sensor at an affordable price, great value for money. (Same shape: Lamzu Thorn) - ATK F1 Extreme: This mouse has been on the market for a while now, but it is extremely consolidated with more of the same, better sensor, 8K and it still has the Ice Feeling coating, characteristic of ATK that helps with sweaty hands. This mouse also weighs 35 grams, making it extremely light. It's worth every penny for the quality of the material and finish, a top-notch mouse. (Same Shape: Razer Viper Mini) - ATK X1 Ultimate: The success of this mouse speaks for itself, it is everything that the ATK F1 is, but ends up being a little heavier and with a different shape for bigger hands. The Ice Feeling is also on this mouse and today it comes in metallic red and metallic purple, which may please some. (Same shape: Razer Viper V3) - IPI FLOAT: In this mouse segment, it is extremely cost-effective. When I say this, I am considering that it is practically a Finalmouse Low Budget, offering great performance but being 4 times cheaper than a Finalmouse. Some negative points would be its Feets and battery if you turn it on, but in terms of performance and overall construction, this mouse is incredible. (Same shape: VAXEE XE-S) A TIER A LITTLE LOWER - Attack Shark R3: This is a magnesium mouse that I can say the same about the IPI FLOAT: in the magnesium segment this mouse is almost 3 times cheaper than the main ones and delivers a great set. The mouse, despite being an Attack Shark, is very well built and finished, offers a great sensor and lightness, making your user experience great. (Same shape: G-wolves HTX) - VXE MAD R: This mouse is excellent, period. One of the ultra-lightweight mice, great coating, good price... so why isn't it S+? Scyrox is simply better in every aspect for a lower price, so it comes in at the S tier very well placed. (Same shape: Zowie S2-DW) - Attack Shark R5: To be quite honest, this mouse is almost a copy of the IPI FLOAT but has better feet and a better sensor, but it doesn't justify its price being almost 50% more than the IPI FLOAT, so it's in this position. (Same shape: VAXEE XE-S) - Delux M900 Ultralight 8k Set: This mouse has an extremely cost-effective set. Great coating, comes with Nano Reciver 8K, a new technology on the market, ergonomic shape that also has a good construction (not as much as the Zaopin ZPW Max) that pleases most hands and a great option for Claw grip, your hand simply rests on the mouse. (Same shape: Zowie EC1) - ATK Z1 Pro Max: This is a mouse that I didn't put in the S+ tier so as not to be too much of a club fan, hahaha. The truth is that the shape of this mouse is extremely comfortable for all hands, a shape that is used by several pro players in a mouse that is twice as expensive, it has excellent quality (after all, it is from ATK) and has a very good sensor and batteries. (Same shape: Pulsar Xlite) - MCHOSE A7 Ultra: the famous GPX shape in a really good construction (different from the GPX's own scroll wheel :p). The mouse is very complete and offers everything a high end mouse needs with excellent quality and shape for a price much lower than the price of a GPX, for example. (Same shape: guess what? Logitech G Pro Superlight 2) - ATK A9 Ultra: Pretty much the same description as the mouse above, it has the same shape as the GPX and is of excellent quality. It is a little more expensive than the MCHOSE, but it is ATK quality, in case you are unsure about exploring new horizons with the MCHOSE. (Same shape: Logitech G Pro Superlight 2) SOME FINAL CONSIDERATIONS Ultimately, all Tier S+ mice and even some mentions of Tier S have excellent quality and power, the difference will be small in relation to price (except for those in a specific segment such as Magnesium and Carbon Fiber), so the ideal is for you to choose the shape that best suits your hand and buy the one you like the most! I'm glad you guys are supporting me in the first tier, if you have any opinions, the comments are always open with a lot of respect! :D Tier list 3.0??

WRITTEN TIER LIST - S+: [Scyrox V8](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mP6H5vv), [Scyrox V6](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_m049kqB), [Zaopin ZPW Max](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mKKkXq3), [ATK F1 Extremo](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_msFPwll), [ATK X1 Ultimate](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mMm7bP9) - S: [Tubarão de Ataque R3](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mMbawLp), [VXE MAD R](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mKRYlxH), [Tubarão de Ataque R5](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mP0V2Lv), [Conjunto Delux M900 Ultraleve 8K](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mK2XBbV), [ATK Z1](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mPdFxLH), [MCHOSE A7 Ultra](https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mMXLaEX), [ATK A9 Ultra](https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtLP47p) - A: VGN F1 Pro, VXE R1 Pro Max, Zaopin Z2 Mini Max, Zaopin Z1 - B: Fantech Aria II, IYX Amber, Incott G23 Pro, Helios II Pro - C: Rapoo VT3 Pro Max, Rapoo VT1 Pro, MCHOSE A5, Delux M800 4k

You can pre-order the R1 Pro Max on meckeys if you want, it's going to be restocked on 30th May iirc

Yes 48g vs 54g but you will also get almost double the battery life

VXE r1 pro max, fuck logi with their trash scrolls, i had 4 different models(g203, g403, g603 and g pro light(after 5 months)), in every single one the scroll broke(not working or scrolling randomly), same happened to my friend in few logi mouses. If they fix that they would be the best manufacturer but now you might have better chance of getting chinese mouse from ali for half the price. And imo wireless is gamechanger now, lag almost identical to usb and it can hold up to month depending on model(i think g603 hold for 2 months on 2 AAs, while deathadder v2 was able to go for around month), so you can either buy bunch of batteries or rechargeable batteries and forget or go with built-in batteries but those last around week, maybe more depends on how much you play.

as long as your sensor is half decent and you don't have too much latency its really whatever you get used to. I personally use a VXE R1 Pro Max i bought off Aliexpress, and its the best wireless mouse ive owned. Battery lasts forever, light, good sensor, nice shape. But just pick one and stick with it.

Do u think is a good mouse for fingertip? I just bought the VXE R1 Pro max, but after 3d printing the fingertip mod, I just loved it so much, so I kinda want to switch to a lighter mouse

I got a vxe r1 pro today, really impressed by it for how little it cost.. I paid like $45 aud from aliexpress. I've had many different high end gaming mice like the maya 8k, pulsar x2cl, vv3 pro and this feels equally as good as any of them for 1/4 of the price.

I get a new mouse every other week, I have a problem.. current have a vxe r1 pro, Corsair sabre v2 and a deathadder v3 hyperspeed. Sabre is my favourite, r1 pro is surprisingly really good for the price, V3 hyperspeed is great too.

Yeah, it's a bad habit buying mice I don't need.. my wife doesn't approve lol The r1 pro I got on ali express during a sale on a welcome deal, I got it for $47 aud + tax which is pretty cheap for what it is, it's really impressive for the price if you can manage to get it for a deal, which happens every so often. The battery life isn't great, it will last all week and more I guess on 1khz but on 2k + it drains really fast. It weighs 48 grams so it weighs half of the g305 and it's much nicer to use in my opinion. I had a g305 long time ago, great mouse but it's 90 grams and it's just no way I could go back to using anything above 50 grams. At least put a AAA lithium battery, with abit of foil rolled up .. it makes the g305 heaps better, I used it for ages before I used all these light weight mouse and didn't know any different, we create problems in our own head I think.

I got an r1 pro for $30 usd on Ali express, with a welcome deal.. honestly a fantastic mouse for the price, can't beat the value. Feels just as good as any of the other mice I've had that cost 4 times the price. The huano mechanical switches feel and sound better than any of that omron shite.. zero QC issues with my unit it's sturdy as a rock. It's really shocking how good it is for what it costs, and the software is really nice even compared to some of the high end brands, plus it has a web hub if you like. Definately go for it.

InnovaDigital Boutique Store https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPx94Ql I bought it during the spring sale a couple of weeks ago, with a welcome deal as a first purchase on the platform.. there is a sale coming up soon it says apparently so I'd wait to see what the price is then.

My R1 Pro Max have been solid so far, I like it. I wish I knew that my palm is a bit too big for it, but I got used to it.

Personally, of all the different products I've used over decades, Logitech G Pro and the super light variants suited me the most. Unfortunately, they are quite prone to double-click issues in spite of costing a significant sum of money after all these years, so nowadays, I switched to Chinese knockoff of the series like VXE R1 Pro Max that costs like 1/5 as much while performing just as good.

MCHOSE K7 comes with an 8K wireless charging dock and 1K nano receiver (USB dongle). Its a Viper V3 Pro clone which shape should suit you fine considering you currently main GPRO. If you want something a bit smaller and you claw grip, the VXE R1 Pro is a great mouse and comes with a 1K nano dongle that you store under the mouse.

Great list. Can confirm ZPW is definitely a winner. One of my favorite shapes and I've owned a lot of mice. Great stock skates and build quality is decent. Love the blue colorway as well. R5 Ultra is decent as well. Shame the shape doesn't do anything for me and if I want to go small/medium I tend to gravitate towards my VXE mice. But yeah I'd personally put Mad R way further up as well as R1 Pro. Particularly if you get perfect copies. The latter having the better shape for me and my aim. Excellent list though man, really well written and done. Not seen one this extensive for recent budget mice lol. Btw you should try the Mad G as well, that mouse is amazing, one of my S tier. The clicks and shape are top tier.

Got R1 Pro Max just recently. It replaced my Deathadder V2 with a broken scroll wheel and I have never been happier. The DAv2 was failing to recognize its charging cable at times and generally had a pretty bad scroll wheel experience. Here the mouse is lighter, the battery lasts longer and I have no problems charging it. Hopefully it will stay like this for some time. I really like the VXE web hub with mouse options and not having to download Synapse or some other bloatware is a pretty big deal for me.

I have helios 2 pro and aria, both are my main. I have ninjutso sora v2, lamzu thorn, vxe r1 pro max and mchose. Shape is king.

i have 21.5 x 10, and honestly my progression with viper mini -> vxe r1 pro max -> scyrox v6 is great. i also use claw.

yeah

VXE R1 pro should be below 2k during shopee sales. I got the pro max tho but they say Pro is better. Really good mouse.

VXE R1 pro should be below 2k during shopee sales. I got the pro max tho but they say Pro is better. Really good mouse.

For years it was a Logitech G203, recently I've switched to a VXE R1 Pro Max and I love it.

VXE R1 PRO is the best mouse I have ever had. I do not recommend at any circumstances to buy the R1 PRO MAX as it has the Kailh White Sword switches and we had many many complaints from people here that it has double click issues after a couple of months. The VXE R1 PRO has the Huano Blue Shell Pink Dot switches that are truly legendary and has no problems in the long run whatsoever in terms of double clicking or becoming mushy or anything really. So yeah, I'd go for the R1 PRO if I were you, it's really great.

VXE R1 PRO is the best mouse I have ever had. I do not recommend at any circumstances to buy the R1 PRO MAX as it has the Kailh White Sword switches and we had many many complaints from people here that it has double click issues after a couple of months. The VXE R1 PRO has the Huano Blue Shell Pink Dot switches that are truly legendary and has no problems in the long run whatsoever in terms of double clicking or becoming mushy or anything really. So yeah, I'd go for the R1 PRO if I were you, it's really great.

VXE R1 PRO is the best mouse so far in my opinion. I come from Maya X, DAV3 PRO and Superlight 2. The R1 PRO gives me the best performance.

Lamzu Atlantis, VXE R1 Pro. I have had the Lamzu for 2,5 years now and I just only recently bought the VXE R1 Pro... Atlantis still going strong and I like it A LOT!

VXE R1 PRO is the best mice for 50$. I even had DAV3 PRO, Superlight 2 and Lamzu Maya X before and this is the best mouse I perform with. I'm not a fan of opticals either, they get sticky, mushy and non spammable within 3 months, especially the omron opticals in Lamzu Maya X. VXE R1 PRO is a god tier mouse.

The VXE R1 PRO is far better than the Attack Sharks.

Do not buy the Maya X. I have it for 3 months... The clicks are f\*\*ked. They are mushy, sticky and have a weird sound. The left started to be bad first then eventually the right one as well. The sensor implementation is horrible, 4k/8k is unusuable. For me it was especiialy important since I play Valorant competitively in Immortal 3. I'm sending it back this week. I've never had such a let down with a mouse which is hyped to the max. My old VXE R1 Pro did a much much better job and I was performing far better with it. Eventually I reordered it and I'll use that.

I got the Phylina S450 about a year ago for $30 and I was astonished that it was better than any of the mice I was using at the time. Since then I have bought the VXE R1 Pro Max, Maya X and now the Attack Shark R6 and they are all excellent. I love the feel of these new 3950/Nordic 52840 mice. The tracking and responsiveness is best I have used on a wireless mouse so far. I have also bought mice like the Viper V3 Pro, X2h V3 and X2 V3 and use none of them as either the clicks are crap or they have other issues.

Bro I have this VXE R1 pro max I bought 2 months ago. Don't have time to play games. Letting it go for 4k. DM me if interested. I'm based in Mumbai.

Im using the pro max right now and havent experience the double clicking issue, ppl suggested to grab the pro instead

VXE R1 Pro Max user here for the past... 3 months? So not long term. But this is the best mouse I've ever used.

Nope, no issues with it at all. As solid as it was on day one.

VXE R1 Pro max user here for about 5 months. I switch between this and the GPX super light 2. I play with the super light for a day or two then find myself wanting to switch and playing with the R1 feels so much more natural and easy. The shape is perfect for my relaxed claw grip and seems so much more lighter even though it’s not much of a difference. Maybe it’s balance. I cannot recommend it enough and the price is crazy for such a nice shape and internals. The battery is not as good as the GPX super light 2 but I am also playing at 4K.

No issues still currently! I heard that too but I use mine daily… maybe some people click hard? I click normal but do rage sometimes and maybe a little hard when try Harding but no issues yet! I keep my debounce on 2mm or whatever and never had to increase it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

still a very good budget mouse, the only worthwhile ones are the pro and the se, the former for great value, and the latter for ultra budget.

imo the regular sku gets over shadowed by the se and pro via price or performance, and the pro max is just. +6g on battery throwing off weight balance and adding a tad extra weight for hours of battery life you won't notice unless you have it on always on max polling. but if you really want 500mah because of battery life then you're also not the type of person to want 4k so in that case the se+ is better. also i pretty sure you can get the mad r for the price of the pro max which would be an even better mouse with a very similar shape

imo the regular sku gets over shadowed by the se and pro via price or performance, and the pro max is just. +6g on battery throwing off weight balance and adding a tad extra weight for hours of battery life you won't notice unless you have it on always on max polling. but if you really want 500mah because of battery life then you're also not the type of person to want 4k so in that case the se+ is better. also i pretty sure you can get the mad r for the price of the pro max which would be an even better mouse with a very similar shape

imo the regular sku gets over shadowed by the se and pro via price or performance, and the pro max is just. +6g on battery throwing off weight balance and adding a tad extra weight for hours of battery life you won't notice unless you have it on always on max polling. but if you really want 500mah because of battery life then you're also not the type of person to want 4k so in that case the se+ is better. also i pretty sure you can get the mad r for the price of the pro max which would be an even better mouse with a very similar shape

I came from the g102 up until 2023, now I’m using the VXE Mad R and R1 Pro Max on the regular, i personally loved the pulsar X2 Mini too. As for recommendations, i suggest the MChose G3 if you don’t wanna stay away from the egg shape, I second the R1 Pro or any similarly-shaped mice (Scyrox V8, Ajazz aj159, Mad R)

VXE R1 Pro or Max great battery optimization can very last long

VXE R1 Pro or Max great battery optimization can very last long

SE has awful coating. Like literally has no coating. Get the Pro Max or the Mad R by VXE that has optical switches and will even last longer, they do amazing mice. Id skip redragon, hyperx haste and royal kludge.

Step 1 : you can use this tool to find the perfect fit for you --> https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/mouse-search Step 2 : you can compare the specs of your findings using this tool --> https://www.eloshapes.com/ The thing is that the first tool will likely give you somewhat elitist and -imo- overpriced gear, so Step 3 : for the models you like the most, let's say X. You can look for "budget alternatives for X" Then you can loop on step 2 and 3 until you find your match. Lately, I was interested in the hitscan hyperlight, but following this procedure, I ended up with a VXE R1 pro, which is basically the same mouse with half the price.

Vxe r1 pro with an approx 6 USD artisan feiyan mousepad - 800 dpi - no aim train - psylocke hopped on Mr ranked after 2weeks of not playing and got diamond

I have the pro, and it's basically perfect. great shape, great weight, great coating, great battery life, great sensor, all at a great price

Used wired for 27 years up until 4 months ago. Never going back to wired. Bought a VXE R1 Pro first and I liked it a lot except it's a touch small for my hand size. Then ordered an ATK X1 Pro ( Viper V3 Pro Clone) and it's perfect. Absolutely love it. I highly recommend checking out one of these Chinese mice from Ali Express, from both of mine the quality is great and the price is basically 1/3 of the Razer/Logitech mice you buy here. Just make sure you look and do a bit of research first I guess. Check out r/mousereview they have a bunch of info and people testing different mice. Edit: sorry just reread your post. I use a relaxed claw grip sometimes bordering on fingertip grip. Hand size is the 19 x 11 I think if I remember correctly.

OP1 8k's good for rough use, if you want wireless, then use VXE R1 pro

Omron optical are quiet but not that fun to click. Huano blue shell pink dots kinda replace the high pitch glass breaking sound of Omron 20m/50m/60m/100m mechanicals with more of a mid-tone range sound, so are sort of quieter. Then switches like “Huano silent” are pretty silent but also kind of meh to click. The quietest Omron optical switch mouse I’ve used is Attack Shark R6, then ones like Mchose L7 with Omron optical are also pretty quiet. Like I said, not a huge fan of how opticals feel, though. Besides that, mice like Zaopin Z1 with it’s Huanos are pretty quiet also, and VXE R1 Pro. If you know how to solder AND do a plunger swap, then Japanese Omrons are more on the quieter side as well.

VXE r1 pro is the goat. Roughly $48 shipped.

There is no best mouse tbh it's shape dependant. Lamzu (Thorn, Maya, Atlantis), Pulsar (X2, or Xlite), Razer (Viper or Deathadder), Logitech (G Pro), VXE (R1 or Mad R) Just a few brands to look into and check shapes on^ There are loads of decent mice out there these days though. Just look for something with either a PAW3395 or the newer PAW3950 sensor. Can save quite a lot of money and still get a competitive mouse by going with a Chinese brand like VXE, Lamzu, or Scyrox, etc. Some of these have Web based software also which imo is vastly better than razers Synaps and Logitechs GHub. AimAdept on YouTube has lots of videos on gaming mice.

R1 Pro user with the 4K dongle for almost 6months now Mouse hasn't skipped a beat. Side fleet isn't an issue in games unless you death grip. And yest the scroll does rattle when violently shaking it... So just don't violently shake it. Most of thr rattle is from the ribbon cable inside anyway. I have taken mine apart a few times, broken the side clips (accidently) and done a hot swap mod to the clicks to use whatever I want. Even with side clips flex isn't an issue unless you are physically trying to get it to budge. The new Web based software so far has been flawless. Only fault I can raise is mediocre battery life, though I do use it in 4K for 50% of the time I use it... Still lasts a good week before dropping into the red battery warning.

I snapped off the side clips on mine... Haven't really affected anything tbh

The R1 and the Mad R are different mice. They are both pretty similar shape wise like 99.9% the same feel in the hand ( I have both The mad R has a newer sensor and also has optical switches, depending on which you get iirc for sensor as some have the same as the R1. The coating on them also feels pretty similar but I have noticed the Mad R hasn't had any issues with fading, whilst the coating on my R1 Pro is sort of wearing away.

Been 1 year since I got the pro version and tbh I'm not a mouse fanatic but it is a great mouse. Never had connectivity issues but I had to swap out the switches because it gave double clicks just around the 1 year mark.

There are many options under 100, steer away from mainstream brands though they are way too expensive for what they provide. Especially stuff like logitech g305, they are very old tech wise. I will give you some recommendations with different price points. Ninjutso Sora 2. Lightest non-combed mice under 100. VXE R1 Pro. Great budget option, Pro version is the one to get not the others. Lamzu mice are overall solid. Endgamegear i think has the best build quality mice, they are a bit more expensive for their tech though. WLMouse Beast X variants are great if you wanna go over budget for something different, it is magnesium. I use VXE R1 Pro and Endgamegear xm2we. XM2we feels superior in build quality but r1 pro is way lighter.

VXE R1 Pro 3 weeks ko na ginagamet sobrang sulit bilis ma full charge napakatagal gamitin

Been using vxe R1 pro for a bit. Absolutely great mouse under 5k.

It's built well and has a nice coating on it. Charges fast and battery lasts a long time.feels very light weighing only 48 grams. I personally don't like the shape. The hump fills out my palm a little more than I'd like and there's is little to no curvature on the sides. Feels a little wide for my liking. The scroll wheel is pretty stiff and sits high up. But if you're looking for a shape like it it's hard to beat for the price. Honestly one of the most premium feeling budget mice I've tried. Id say the best model is the r1 pro because of the sensor but the smaller battery to save some weight.

It's built well and has a nice coating on it. Charges fast and battery lasts a long time.feels very light weighing only 48 grams. I personally don't like the shape. The hump fills out my palm a little more than I'd like and there's is little to no curvature on the sides. Feels a little wide for my liking. The scroll wheel is pretty stiff and sits high up. But if you're looking for a shape like it it's hard to beat for the price. Honestly one of the most premium feeling budget mice I've tried. Id say the best model is the r1 pro because of the sensor but the smaller battery to save some weight.

If you can somehow extend your budget to 4k then VXE R1 Pro is a really good mouse, I don’t know the exact price but the only downside is that it goes out of stock very quickly. Checkout sites like: Loadout, GenesisPC, NeoMacro.

Mouse is a personal preference. Check out r/MouseReview and do your research. For example I used Razer Naga for mmorpgs for ages, but I strated playing FPS with my Wooting and wanted a more FPS friendly gaming mouse ... I quickly realised that the most popular ones are ABSOLUTELY TINY. I don't even have giant hands, I have 19,5-10,5 hands. For example I bought the VXE R1 PRO which is one of the more popular ones thanks to the price and quality, but I had to send it back, because I couldnt even reach the side buttons with how small it was. Did some more research, at least I had a reference point to look through elo shapes here: [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/database](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/database) , so I just went through all mice with a reference for that VXE and Naga. Now I knew what I wanted: Mice as big as the Razer Naga, but lighter and with a hump in the back. I sorted them by size and ended up at Pulsar X3 that came out at the end of the year and I couldn't be happier. That was my journey of finding perfect mouse. I still use my Naga for mmorpgs and I switch to the Pulsar for every other game.

So I was super excited about the Pulsar X3 mouse, because the shape/size/design looked perfect, but I woke up to pretty luke-warm reviews and a lot of disapointed people. Everybody says it's avarage at best so my question is - What are better options with same, or at least similar shape and size? Please don't tell me to go for anything smaller … I tried VXE R1 Pro and it was absolutely tiny, so I had to return it that same day. I need something that's like twice as big as VXE R1 Pro. tl;dr: Pulsar X3 reportedly sucks, what are other light-weight big ergo mice that are considered premium or just better than Pulsar x3? (preferably with back hump.)

Great mouse, I own that, ordered few months back, used to use G402, now G402 feels like a brick ngl https://preview.redd.it/2lf57jhegnsf1.jpeg?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98b4d8040c43a4542963bff60b0f3ac56c9b8372

Got my R1 Pro yesterday, crazy light, crazy hand feeling, great coating i think battery is good asw on this one same goes for sensor TBH a good investment.

If your hand isn't humongous, then you might like the shape of VXE R1 Pro. Reviewers say this is the king of budget mice because it is on par with premium mice, they say it is basically a "clone" of the much more expensive logitech gpx. It has ergonomic shape, comfortable, not a spaceship on your desk. If you do decide to get it, get the Pro variant, not the cheaper variants, and not the Pro Max. Just "Pro". Because of switches. This is a FPS mouse, so standard 2 main buttons, clickable mousewheel, plus only 2 side buttons, (MMORPG gaming mice have more side buttons). Has wired versions. You can also go with the much cheaper Logitech G203, but expect the switches to start double clicking within its first year. So this mouse is only viable if you have some soldering skills, or know someone, so you could replace the switches. Otherwise, its complete waste of money. It is also a lot heavier than VXE R1, annoying if you are used to using lightweight mice. But it is dirt cheap. In the end, if you can find a mouse that you like the shape, the shape, the weight, thats all that matters. Because you can replace the insides (aka mouse modding). You can replace switches, use grip tape, change the under skates, etc.

ooh, I think I have a vxe r1 pro at home too. haven't used it at all really. that looks to be the same shape

VXE R1 Pro, previously was on G305 in 2021-2024.

Obviously it's not the exact same experience, with fingertip grip basic adaptation took a couple sessions. In aimlabs scores were up immediately, in-game you gotta be bit more conscious about it. Slightly lowered sens to account for weight reduction and now it's mostly good, just gotta build a bit more experience. Never going back to anything over 50-ish grams.

Yes. I have a Razer mouse but I prefer my Vxe R1 Pro all day.

yesterday my vxe r1 pro came, and its very good imo

A mouse like the VXE R1 pro is all you need

I have 18x10 hands and the R1 (Well, Eweaden S9, same same) is a great size. For my hand it's maybe a touch longer then it needs to be, so I figure it would work great in 19x10 hands

vxe r1 for wireless, viper mini for wired. those 2 are the best mice when it comes to value at this price range

the R1 Pro has a nore up to date mouse sensor for better response times. but considering you're not playing competitive games, the Se+ should be just fine.

At this price look for vxe r1 pro from AliExpress, also you can look at Mchose mouses from their web, and please don't even look at 305 or orochi, people who recommend them, have not tried anything better, or have really outdated knowledge

Just so that you know, from AliExpress you can get vxe r1 se+ with 3311(rebranded 3335) for around 20$ with welcome deal, or vxe r1 with 3395 and decent switches for around 30$, best option would be getting vxe r1 pro but it could cost around 30-35$ if you find it on sale, though i don't know how it is buying from AliExpress for you

Rapoo vt1 gen-2 or vt7 gen-2 if you prefer bigger mouse with shape collar to viper v3 pro, imo it's better than vxe r1 pro

Kysona m600, delux m800 Pro, vxe r1 pro, ajazz aj179 (this one is ergo and cost really cheap) (from AliExpress)

on sales its below 20$, I have vxe R1 i got for 12$ from aliexpress in my collection

Hey friend I live in Brazil too. You can get a VXE R1 Pro, it goes for about 260 reais with taxes. very very good mouse that lasted me a year and a half before I got a new one (it's still working flawlessly, I just got bored of it and decided to try a small mouse, the Attack Shark R6 - it's shape is better than the VXE R1 Pro for my hands, but it depends on your own hand size. build quality is inferior to the VXE though). Another one that I would recommend is the Mchose L7 Pro/Ultra (both versions are good) - it's a little more expensive at 300-320 reais, but a very good mouse because I prefer smaller mice. Another one that is good but more expensive is the VXE Mad R, people say it's a direct upgrade from the VXE R1 Pro. Ultimately, the VXE R1 Pro is my final recomendation for how universally good, well built and cheap it is.

The VXE R1 Pro is actually quite good for it's price. Not sure where you were looking at, but there's tons of review of it in Youtube and on r/MouseReview. My wife uses it currently, and it's been working well for over a year now. She's not the type to really take care of her tech, so it can take a beating lol. It's not optical though so there is still the risk of double clicking in the future, but for now, it's working well. You can probably get it less than 2k on sale days.

fair. you need to plug it in every 4 days or so if you use the mouse the whole day everyday. it's not a large battery which i guess contributes to the light weight. but the battery is quick to charge to full anyway with a standard usb cable from pc port. you can get the max, but it's a bit more expensive, and for me not worth it if you're just using in a permanent setup anyway.

Vxe r1 pro. Going good. Also scyrox v8 is chinese. I mean scyrox is

been using the r1 pro in my office daily for more than a year (bought Dec 2023). it's holding up well but the white shell has signs of yellowing. scrollwheel still working fine but the rubber on the wheel has signs of wear. no creaking or double clicking encountered yet. lowered the polling rate to 250hz for office use to extend battery life, it lasts about a month on a single charge.

Yup i got the vxe r1 pro as well about 6 months ago. It's amazing for the price. However, its scroll wheel has become unstable (jumps in the opposite direction of scroll). Maybe its dust/debree or the fact that i'd bound jump on wheel up and every E ability on wheel down.

VXE R1 Pro. Solid solid mouse, will likely own it until a 25g mouse with the same shape comes out. Until then I'm good. Has been a great upgrade from a superlight. Consider the Mchose G3 Ultra. Shape is almost identical, all the specs are superior to the G304 and the weight is almost 30g less. It's a solid upgrade without being too dramatic.

I don't like the Superlight's shape, and I'm happy with the VXE R1 Pro.

I've been loving my vxe r1 pro. If I were wanting to upgrade what would be the next best mouse from them?

I am personally using the VGN VXE R1 Pro but you can get the R1 model, i guess its under 3000 rupees. These mouses are amazing, super lightweight and feels so good while gaming.

VXE R1 pro was the best ever, I'm a pure wrist aimer for all games, arm isn't even planted on the table

It's sensor position is just perfect for it's shape

I have the same mouse and I think that's the best option

Check mo muna ano gusto mo form at size. R1 Pro is nice and cheap. or try mo yung Zaopin Z2 at least hotswap switch niya if need palitan | Component | Link | Part | Price | Comment | |---|---|---|---|---| | **Accessories** | [LINK]() | Wireless Mouse Shopee PAW3395 VXE Dragonfly R1 Pro | 2189 (**2189**) | | | **Accessories** | [LINK]() | Wireless Mouse Shopee PAW3395 Zaopin Z2 | 2999 (**2399.2**) | HotSwap Swtich |

I have the vxe r1 pro, I've been very happy with it for a little over a year now. The mad major is a slightly newer version with a slihghtly different shape I believe. The scyrox is probably the best of the bunch and the lightest I believe. Also the most expensive. The vxe software is fine, I believe they have a web version now, I don't ever really use it past initial setup. Can't speak to scyrox software. Check out boardzy on YouTube for some more in depth analysis, I believe he's covered all them in some form.

Second this. Vxe mice are crazy good, vxe r1 pro put my deathadder v3 on the bench over a, year ago and haven't looked back. And it cost 1/3 of the price.

R1 is overrated as hell.. got double clicking issue within a week

There are many big names being mentioned here but if you don't want to break the bank and still want a good mouse I'd say get the VXE R1 Pro. Great hardware for a great price. Nowadays the mainstream brands are too expensive for what they offer and if you want a reputable brand with good mice I'd say look at EndgameGear or Lamzu but these are also more expensive than the VXE. (I'm currently using an EndgameGear OP1WE with a claw grip). Also you're in a pc building subreddit, most people here won't be knowledgeable about the enthusiast market. You can head over to r/MouseReview for in depth questions.

>My 2 cents. I think theres a lot of mice below 50 that are good enough for most people's gaming. yeah one of them is the VXE R1. 6th on the first slide

I have the R1 Pro from VXE which I believe is a sister company or something (they use the same ATK software) but when I tried my old Glorious Model D- I noticed how much nicer the ergo shape felt in my hand so this mouse might be my next one.

got the vxe r1 pro, probably one of the best choices i did last year lol

VXE R1 Pro is a really good mouse; I have been using it for a few months now and it is worth the money. You can also look for ATK F1 Extreme, VXE Mar R Major or Scroyx V8. They are wireless, but can be wired as well

R1 Pro is still standing up, I don't see any part of my mouse broken or cracking. The coating is intact, nothing wrong with the sensor. The build quality is 100% better than Logitech Super light 2 DEX. I don't have the 4k receiver, it should change much performance on the polling rate

I’ve been trying to get my friends on board with the VXE R1 Pro, after falling in love with mine. But none of them are biting yet

Vxe r1 pro + fun60 ultra tmr and for mouse skates esptiger tiger ice v2

Guys in Fortnite when I crouch it shoots automatically and when I’m spraying and crouching it stops shottimh with the vxe but doesn’t happen with my Steelers

VXE R1 Pro ftw

Vxe R1 pro would probably be better, it's around £30-40. What's the price of this? It's got good hardware, but the MCU isn't mentioned. I think the R1 pro has the Nordic 52840

I think it's micro controller unit. That does seem like a good price, personally I wouldn't want the oled on it, bc it adds extra weight for a gimmick that I would probably never use, but if you like it go for it. How much is the VXE R1 pro in Malaysia?

I've been using it for about a week now, and it's pretty good.

Nah, it's sold by Meckeys in India since Indian Customs are really fucked, and aliexpress is banned . I got the Pro version for 4k Indian Rupees, which converts to $45.09

if you’re willing to spend $10-15 on a mouse more you can try either the attack shark x3 or the dragonfly vxe r1 pro. they’re almost identical but the vxe r1 pro comes with grip tape and extra skates.

Quite liked the m64, I'm using mostly the vxe r1 pro at moment, got a htx 8k ultra on ore order also want to try out the new sabre v2 coming or maybe the hitscan hyperlight

Yea feel it does that but idk gives me hand pain I think I need a za 12 kinda size one but ones like vxe r1 feel nicer if only it was a tiny bit thinner but not as thin as like op1

VXE R1 Pro is probably my favorite mouse in this price range I'd say it competes with mice above 5k, though that might just be me. If you have specific measurements for your hands it would help a bit (length cm x width cm).

I'll drop the mouse I'd generally recommend for your hand size, some of these are above 5k without vouchers. Personally I still really recommend the VXE R1 Pro its such amazing value, you can search up a review on it if you wanna learn more about the mouse. VXE R1 Pro Ninjutso sora (mini) Pulsar X2 (mini) Lamzu Atlantis Mini

VXE R1 is really the go to mouse is this price bracket.

The mouse is pretty good for smaller hands (im assuming mine are pretty small hands). The grooves on the side are not too aggressive like the razer viper builds out there, which is nice because it doesn't force your hand in one position. It's almost gpx shaped but the buttons are slanted lower which is really nice in comparison. The sensor is directly in the center of the mouse. Good if your grip is more towards the rear like me. I find it's a little awkward to control if you move your hands any more forward. The coating on the mouse is pretty amazing too. No fingerprints on the sides so far and nothing is coming off. Keep in mind I've been using this for almost half a year every day. The mousewheel has light steps to them, no weird sounds so far. Skates are alright, although i did notice they've slowed down quite a bit after reading some other commenters on this mouse. Sorry my review is kinda all over the place, but if i missed anything you can ask again haha.

VXE R1/pro/pro max for x2-esque shape, rapoo VT3/pro/pro max for ergo imo.

it has many factors however, the zaopin z1 pro, mchose l7 pro, incott g23, vxe r1 pro, vxe mad r+ etc are great choices the cheapest id go is a vxe r1/(pro), would skip the r1se since it uses a 3395se sensor which is just a 3311(sensor found in office mice, not really fit for gaming)

if you are open to order from aliexpress or maybe it is on amazon too, i would recommend vxe r1 its small and very light mouse and has side button too. there is different version though, i think pro version is best. i used most of last year and it was great 😀

if you are open to order from aliexpress or maybe it is on amazon too, i would recommend vxe r1 its small and very light mouse and has side button too. there is different version though, i think pro version is best. i used most of last year and it was great 😀

VXE R1 SE+/Pro or Kysona Aztec

yeah, and a better switch as well. Either get the SE+ or Pro. the non plus aint so great and no point getting the non-pro for the price diff to pro version

Value wise, 100%. I also prefer the shape of the VXE R1, but the GPX is one of the most popular gaming mice for a reason. The shape is safe for most people.

I have the VXE R1 Pro, and I can vouch for its quality. Probably the best bang for buck mouse in terms of quality. Scyrox v8 and Hitscan Hyperlight are two very good options, but they're a bit more expensive.

Idk about others but my first mouse was the vxe r1 pro and i am telling you right now. That thing is amazing I can’t believe it was that cheap. Amazing quality,functionality, shape and everything

DO NOT BUY EITHER OF THOSE! Get a VXE R1/R1 pro or a mchose a5 through meckeys

1k will do the job just fine. I have used a mouse with 8k polling. The difference is not that big as 125-500 to 1k polling does. I have the R1 pro too and it's great

The VGN VXE R1 Pro is a good choice.

Well the V8 is pretty much exclusively made for claw grip. So I’d rule that one out. The R1 Pro and the L7 Ultra are almost identical shape wise but I do prefer the L7 so I’d recommend that one. The L7 also has a very slightly better sensor (not really noticeable but hey) I also much prefer the Omron Optical switch’s in the L7.

Save your money and get a VXE R1 Pro from Meckeys

I have small hands and I love the Vxe R1 Pro and Zaopin Z1 pro

just get the vxe r1 pro, it’s one of the best in the market rn

I actually have the se+ version and so far so good, the only regret I have is not getting the pro version. just go see reviews in yt, vxe r1 pro is always in the top 3 best budget mouse

I'm using a "VXE R1 Pro" right now, there's a newer version called "VXE MAD R" but I haven't touched it so can't say anything, the r1 pro however is very good. Generally speaking - buy tech over Aliexpress, don't buy big brands, it's a massive waste of money. For further questions go to [r/MouseReview](https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/)

It’s not, but this sub is an echo chamber where only performance matters, lower weight, sensor etc. I personally also fall into that category, that’s why I ordered VXE R1 Pro with 8K dongle, but I’m almost certain most average (read: non reddit people) will buy a G502 rather than a 50g ultra performance mouse that looks like it spent time in a concentration camp. But we gotta blame something when we lose the gunfight. so… 😀

Shape reminds me of my VXE R1 pro

MY CHINESE VXE R1 PRO WILL DO THE WORK, SAME SHAPE TOO IG

I went from VXE R1 Pro to the Hitscan Hyperlight. I also use a fingertip grip. The Hyperlight is noticeably better in terms of size, quality, and clicks. The R1 Pro is still my recommendation for people on a budget though.

Vxe r1 Pro feels insane for the price and won’t weigh you down during long sessions.

Mine did the same after a few months and cleaning barely helped but still love it.

been using it a few months and still runs smooth every single day.

Vxe r1 super cheap, super simple, yet super effective. Comes with the paw 3395 as well, best sensor in the market. Get the r1 pro if it's within budget

It all depends on your budget. 50$? Vxe r1 / r1 pro. 100$? Maybe the death adder v3 there are TONS of options and it all comes down to your grip and hand size. Ask in r/mousereview . They know EVERYTHING about mice I spent a good load of research there before getting my mouse.

Vxe r1 super cheap, super simple, yet super effective. Comes with the paw 3395 as well, best sensor in the market. Get the r1 pro if it's within budget

It all depends on your budget. 50$? Vxe r1 / r1 pro. 100$? Maybe the death adder v3 there are TONS of options and it all comes down to your grip and hand size. Ask in r/mousereview . They know EVERYTHING about mice I spent a good load of research there before getting my mouse.

One of the cheap best option i can suggest is VXE R1 pro.

Probably op18k. Because i have vxe r1 pro & i have little larger hands than you & i also use claw (relaxed) , Even though vxe r1 pro is fantastic mouse i wish it was little bit more narrow. Op18k is narrower than vxe so. If you can find op18k for a 50 get it. But vxe mouse are fantastic every way it just little wide for me.

It's not "bad" per se, just very very expensive for what you get, especially if you consider that the Superlight 1 can't even go above 1000hz. Superlight 2 in white also has yellowing issues with the coating/paint. When you look at it from price to performance value, you get way more with mice like the VXE R1 Pro, or ATK blazing sky, etc. Pros don't really care cuz they're either making a ton of money, or they get tons of superlights for free.

There's a difference between likely failing within 1-2 years, and extremely unlikely to fail after >2 years of use. Newer switches are better and more reliable, feel better, last longer etc. Some mice have optical switches which are incredibly unlikely to develop these issues basically ever. I'd look for a $30-$50 mouse from a brand you have never heard of. I have a VXE R1 Pro, which is a basically a clone of the Pulsar X2. Shark Attack X3 is a very similar and super affordable mouse that is on par with $80 name brand mice. If you want a no nonsense corded mouse, the OP1 is a little pricier (like 50$) but is a great mouse as well. All of these mice are better quality than even the best Logitech was putting out only 3-4 years ago. Like keyboards, the competition and quality has skyrocketed in recent years.

There's a difference between likely failing within 1-2 years, and extremely unlikely to fail after >2 years of use. Newer switches are better and more reliable, feel better, last longer etc. Some mice have optical switches which are incredibly unlikely to develop these issues basically ever. I'd look for a $30-$50 mouse from a brand you have never heard of. I have a VXE R1 Pro, which is a basically a clone of the Pulsar X2. Shark Attack X3 is a very similar and super affordable mouse that is on par with $80 name brand mice. If you want a no nonsense corded mouse, the OP1 is a little pricier (like 50$) but is a great mouse as well. All of these mice are better quality than even the best Logitech was putting out only 3-4 years ago. Like keyboards, the competition and quality has skyrocketed in recent years.

There's a difference between likely failing within 1-2 years, and extremely unlikely to fail after >2 years of use. Newer switches are better and more reliable, feel better, last longer etc. Some mice have optical switches which are incredibly unlikely to develop these issues basically ever. I'd look for a $30-$50 mouse from a brand you have never heard of. I have a VXE R1 Pro, which is a basically a clone of the Pulsar X2. Shark Attack X3 is a very similar and super affordable mouse that is on par with $80 name brand mice. If you want a no nonsense corded mouse, the OP1 is a little pricier (like 50$) but is a great mouse as well. All of these mice are better quality than even the best Logitech was putting out only 3-4 years ago. Like keyboards, the competition and quality has skyrocketed in recent years.

I'm sharing my experience since I ran into a problem with my R1 Pro just now. I've had my R1 Pro for a month now and it was working fine until today. I don't know if it's a firmware issue, dongle, loose cable, or whatever it is. I was playing and decided I'd take a quick nap. I put my PC on sleep mode but forgot to turn off the mouse (I don't know if this caused the issue since I usually leave my mouse on even with my G304). I woke up, used my PC and noticed that the middle mouse button was not working. I initially thought that I kept the macro on the middle mouse button but when I checked ATK Hub, it was set to the middle mouse/mouse 3. I tried to use it wired thinking it could fix the issue but same results. I decided to update the firmware of the mouse but again, same results. After using the mouse for a couple of minutes, my PC becomes unclickable, taskbar cant be clicked, Chrome can't close tabs, etc also tried it on my laptop and the same shit happens. Only after rebooting my PC/Laptop fixes the hanging/unresponsiveness. Then suddenly I can't use the mouse wirelessly. It can only be used when I plug it in with the extender cable/charger. I tried using my old G304 since I still thought that the PC/Laptop was the problem but surprisingly it worked just fine. PC was not being unresponsive, middle mouse button works, wireless is working. My only option now is to take it to the shop where I bought it and send it for a manufacturer's warranty.

idk man, i have 20x10 hands, and the vxe r1 is pretty well sized(though i use finger tip grip)

well the reason for this is because there is no mouse for everyone. everyone wants something different. and people have different experiences. lets take the attack shark x3. great mouse. great build quality. but i had a shitty experience because of my hand size. for the mice i recomended. the g3 is closest to the shape you want. teh vxe r1 is just amazing in general but not really the shape you want. the x11 is kinda meh. not great specs and not the shape you want, kinda big tbh. but its cheap. another option is the attack sahrk x3. it may have not been good for me but my hands are huge. and it is a shape that is smaller and the community loves it. its just a viper mini shape

Never buy se+, go for regular r1 or r1+.

Vxe r1, atk a9 plus

id say id suggest u to get the base vxe r1 since its a bit more better than the se version

Attack Shark R1 is my sub mouse. Deathadder v3 shape but slightly smaller. VXE R1 is okay din if mas maliit trip mo Both can be sub 1k https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=attack-shark-r1-vs.-razer-deathadder-v3-pro-vs.-vxe-r1

VXE R1 or Mchose M7 are great for tac fps imo.

VXE R1. Amazing mouse for the price

That's because both utilise a 125hz polling rate. Fantech makes very entry level mice but recently have started producing some high end stuff like the aria series and vx7 V2 something wireless. Polling rate is the amount of updates the mouse gives to the computer. Most good quality gaming mice will use something like a 1000 hz polling rate which means you will send 1000 updates to the computer every second. I upgraded from a vx7 crypto by fantech to a vxe R1 and the difference was pretty big. Wireless also feels way better due to the lack of drag of the wire.

I love my ATK VXE R1! It's so natural to use, I don't think about it half the time. Such a good mouse.

I am using the Basillisk v3 for single player games, it's really good. You can also consider the vxe r1 if you are into esports titles.

Sensor, switches and encoder. The pro is great but for someone getting started R1SE+ is fine. Also the most value for money mouse in the lineup would be the Vxe R1 for 2900.

To give you the gist of it. 1. VXE R1 has a better flagship sensor compared to Razor. 2. VXE is wireless and Razor is wired. Although it doesn't have an amazing battery life and you will need to charge often. 3. Vxe has 4000hz polling rate compared to razer cobra's 1000hz. Personally I think above 1000hz polling rate are gimmicks. Also you will have to pay extra for the 4000hz dongle. 4. Razor has better switches but Huano mechanical switches in vxe are nothing to scoff at either. 5. Razor has RGB, Vxe is completely stealthy. 6. Razor cobra is more grippy out of the box, you might need to use grip tapes with the VXE. 7.Vxe is lighter by around 10grams.

eveything on the list is different size...so first decide ur size that is comfortable for u.. i personally use VXE r1...go for it if u are looking for a medium-small hands...its equalent to GPX ITS JUST AMAZINGGGG..i got it for 2.9k from meckeys

Using vxe R1 from 2 months, very lightweight and good performance, ordered from meckeys, one of the best mouse if not the best, under 3000₹

If you like claw grip or fingertip grip go for VXE or logi. But if you prefer plam grip go for lpx clone by ATK and Razer. I found mad r to be very good for shooting flicks and shooting VXE R1 is very same shape as Mad R. ATX A7 is good for plam grip but they feel right for spray control but for flicks nothing beats shapes like VXE R1. Sensor and performance wise expect logi and Razer rest are very good for price. Logi and Razer charges a lot for brand name but they feel cheaper in hand compared to VXE or ATK. And performance is also better on Chinese alternatives.

I have MX3 it's click started to miss while dragging stuff on PC in a year but I am a heavy users my other colleagues are still going strong with MX3s been 3 year. Logi give 2 year warranty, you have to mail them with a letter and invoice to get replacement. They usually send replacement in 2 weeks. R1 is same as Mad R not ATK in context of shape. [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=atk-a9-vs.-vgn-r1](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=atk-a9-vs.-vgn-r1) https://preview.redd.it/32gj4glu32rf1.png?width=1220&format=png&auto=webp&s=229c8c142b5a9c05a0e4366d2a89a741cf04fc7c Like I told R1 is good for claw or fingertip grip not palm due to back jump while A9 have mid jump suitable for palm grip. Just for your info.

I settled with the Zaopin z2 for work. A little heavier at 60 plus grams and the Vxe r1 and the mad r major for gaming. Lightest mouse I could find in 2024. 3 mice with heavy application of grip tapes on the sides. I find that flatter sides for the thumb and pinky finger helps alleviate the pain. Darmoshark N5 is another I could recommend, I didnt like the heavy clicks.

i have same grip and vxe r1 is really good u can try if u want

G502(wired) VXE R1 Series (wireless) recently bought VXE R1 and it has that randomly disconnecting issue so be careful and best of luck

Bro buy something like vxe r1 for 2400 or if ur okay with used go to imkc discord and buy something from there

i bought vxe r1 and replaced my g102, so far so good

Go with r1 OP! I was in your same spot. Was thinking I'll buy g304. But r1 is much lighter. Better senser, where you can reduce LOD as well. And just.. so good! Ive couples it with aqua control 2 mousepad and its been an amazing experience. I charge it maybe once in 5 days or so.. but it just take one match on wired, to bring it back to 100 percent. Never a discomfort. The online webpage mouse settings customisation is also v convenient. Best bang for buck at this price range. If u reaally want g304 shape, you can go with mchose g3. But yes just go with vxe r1. Not the se version. But just r1.

It will depend on your grip type, but your best shot would be between Attack shark X11 (if you prefer palm grip), or VXE R1 (if you use claw grip, or VXE mad R (if you use claw and don't mind the price difference between the R1).

Hearing that your mouse stopped working is very weird, I've only had battery issues with mine but those only appeared after like 1-2 years of usage. What's your hand size and grip type though? If you have small/medium hands and use claw grip then the VXE mad r and r1 are very solid.

Which one i have several, in my comment though i was referring to VXE R1 (the mad R is a newer and improved version though).

Mouse: VXE R1 Mousepad: Alpha Unltd Extended Mousepad Keyboard: Royal Kludge RK84 with Akko Cream Yellow V3 switches Main FPS games: Modern Warfare 3

I have 22 cm and vxe R1 is really small in my hands, i suggest you the Zowie EC2

Sora V2, Vxe r1, Mad R, L7 ultra+ are a bit wider than op1 with similar back hump profile. Pulsar X2 is wider Xm2 is widest

Yup I got the Vxe r1 for like 16 dollars and I was amazed how the quality resembles logitech g pro 1. no issues with it so far. I don't think I would ever buy a mouse over 50 dollars tbh. 2nd market buying

i guess i was a bit unlucky, got my first vxe r1 black with no problem and got the vxe r1 se with a weird click

I would recommend avoiding most of those brands if you are on a budget. Something like the VXE r1, Redragon M916/M918, Royal Kludge M30 or M3 or any of a number of lesser known brands will give better performance for cheaper. Edit: the HyperX pulsefire Haste 2 doesn't look to bad for the price given the limited time deal on Amazon. What is probably a paw3395 sensor, 53 grams for $39 isn't a terrible price. Wouldn't be my first choice, but it isn't awful

VXE R1 SE+ will be better than anything except the HyperX Pulsefire Haste 2 from your list, while probably being significantly cheaper.

If budget is $30 VXE R1. If budget is $60 Scyrox V8.

Idk my hands are pretty big 19.5 x 10.5 but i really do not understand the hype behind the shapes of the l7 and mad R for example. I main the vxe r1 and its very comfortable, the mchose l7 just feels short and awkwardly wide, like the proportions dont make sense at all , i cant find a single comfortable grip, be that claw or ftip. And no i dont have alien hands. I understand we are all diffrent with diffrent preferences but i dont really understand this one. Same goes for the mad r that i find significantly more uncomfortable than the r1 , but people keep calling it an upgrade.

I've never said buy a g pro, I actually hate that mouse. I literally said buy a vxe r1 for that price

Coulda got a vxe r1 for that price but instead got an MMO mouse lmao

VXE R1 from meckeys, if it's okay for you to buy outside amazon

Vxe R1. Check in neomacro and meckeys

Sensor lags. Get R1 only. Else go for wired like razer cobra

G304 is 100grams. VXE R1 is 50 grams. Easier for flicks on low sensitivity

Yes VXE R1 is the best. Its a nice mouse

Go on meckeys. Com and get vxe r1, i use this mouse & I can’t lie this shit is soooo gooodddd If you’re budget is ablve 3k+

People that recommend the Viper Mini either havent tried it themselves or dont know better, that cable is stiff, thick so its not even compatible with mouse bungees I wouldn't subject a friend to that. The minimum I'd pay for a wired mouse with an actually good cable is around 2k for the Wired Razer and Pulsar options (Razer Deathadder V3 and Pulsar X2/X2H/Xlite Wired) and max at 3k-4k for the 8k options from Endgame Gear with good wired cables as well (OP1 8k and XM2 8k) at 1k the only reasonable option is VXE R1, whatever version you can get (avoid pro max, switches suck)

Rakk Dasig - heavy at 90g, outdated 3325 G102 - heavy at 85g, outdated 1855 Aula SC580 - heavy and another 3325, better build quality than Rakk Dasig at least Viper Mini - 3359 is old but acceptable, high lift off distance (preference), good but relatively slow skates. Actually usable weight (60 ish grams) too bad its discontinued and there are no viper minis that arent fakes below 1k, the razer cobra (viper mini replacement) starts at 2k. Hawk 1 - avoid Garuda Gear brand as a whole, too many quality control issues Attack Shark X11 - old 3311 sensor, avoid their sub 1k mice and go straight to 3395 like their Attack Shark X3 VXE R1 - build quality issue, luck of the draw depending on the batch you get. Go straight to R1 Pro for higher chance of better QC, issues dont show up until weeks or months in use (switches or scroll wheel is usually first to show issues, shell creaking and slam clicking problems as well but those are rarer with the model I mentioned) Only mouse I would consider from that list is VXE R1, but you're better off saving 2k+ for more better options

VXE R1 build quality issues, get MAD R instead MCHOSE also has build issues for the less premium models, try to get a "Pro" version at least for better chance at qc lottery Altho this goes for almost every mouse sub 3k and below, even the most "premium" budget mouse brand Scyrox still has these issues. Pray for a good model but expect to encounter issues like creaking and flexing sides or quickly worn out skates

my r1 is fantastic

Hand size and grip style? I think ur a newbie to mice and i recommend vxe r1 . Safe shape around 2k rs . Deathadder essential is polarising avoid it. Get safe shapes like m724 if budget under 1.5k, vxe r1 if budget under 3k Under 2k again id say extend and get r1. G102 is good shape but small for bug hands.

I find the concave left mouse button a bit weird to rest my index finger upon. But the mouse itself is superb! Battery life is really good too.

VXE R1, had a chance to use it for a week. My normal mouse is superlight 2 and it wasn't much worse.

This LTC mouse also is called an M1 Valkyrie and IFYOO G63, I believe. [Eloshapes size comparison](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=ltc-gm022-vs.-logitech-g-pro-x-superlight) [My Amazon Vine review with internal pics](https://amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2CNPK01G440AZ?ref=pf_ov_at_pdctrvw_srp) VXE R1 is an amazing mouse. My SE has better clickfeel than my R1 Pro, and the SE went on sale for $14 Superdeals Aliexpress. After Rakuten Cashback and coupons, you could get an R1 SE for like $11 and an R1 3395 for $20. Insane value. Super lightweight. Great scroll wheel, buttons, side buttons, skates, shape.... Really can't go wrong there. That said, this LTC mouse isn't *bad*. It's a unique shape (very narrow), low button height gimmick, and charging dock. I had no problems with the software and use it at 1600 dpi. Tech Power Up has great mouse reviews with objective performance data. I don't think they've reviewed this mouse. On average, well-known brands might have better performance (click latency, motion latency, polling stability, dpi deviation, etc), but as seen with the Redragon M916 K1NG vs Glorious Model O 2 Minus, bigger comapny doesn't *always* mean more reliable performance Edit: [Unboxing and disassembly video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGI3l7hLcnw) and [DayBoyGuru's video review](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZk6euObRfo). he talks about the software, not sure if the LTC uses the same software

A G304 has more double click issues than VXE R1, even though Logitech is largest peripheral brand and VXE is a.. let's just say new brand. If u want a trusted and mainstream brand mouse, go for the razer cobra. Same easy warranty like Logitech and optical switches which never double click. *** And other standard mice to get in this price range are Ducky Feather B&W, EVGA X12 but these along with the cobra are all wired. If u want wireless: ATK A9, RK M30, VXE R1 SE+ would be my reccs.

yep, best in that range

I personally like my ajazz aj 179 pro (lamzu thorn clone for less than 30$) for valorant, but I would recommend the vxe r1 or mad r from aliexpress. I find I have better flicks and tracking on the smaller vxe r1, but I prefer the bigger ergo ajazz aj179 for stability in tactical shooters like valorant. Overall, I think the vxe r1or mad r(bit more expensive but lighter) would be better for most because most prefer claw grip.

Its just a bigger mouse that fills up the hand more. The r1 is smaller and allows for finger micro adjustments.

Personally, I'll go with one of the following: Logitech g304/305 or g502, Razer Orochi or Viper, Attack Shark X3, VXE R1, Fantech Aria XD7 (Currently using this)

Build quality wise of course the official ones are better, they better do looking at how much they costs. But comparing a Viper v3 and a Attack Shark X11, they are really close and certainly not $120 appart to me. Attack shark QC must be really random because each time its either "the things keeps losing track or disconnect" or "the thing is perfect". I have the R1 and the X11 both of them are perfect to me. Zero connection lost, no latency, things are dead spot on it's amazing what $20-30 got you nowadays.

Vxe r1 for sure

VXE R1 would be perfect for the size.

Bhai vxe r1 is a reall fantastic buy at this price range if you want logitech g pro clone if you have tried that shape, otherwise you can research and find a good one.

If you are playing competitive games. Then Yes. If not , then no. If you are playing competitive games, you are okay with wired mice , get the cooler master mm710(absolute best mouse under 2k , can get in elitehubs website , yea it's a trustable website), I would suggest saving up 3k for a VXE R1 , it's wireless with top of the line sensor and it's lightweight.

It's better built than the G pro x for sure 😂

Vxe r1 any day. I think it'll be back in stock on neo macro end of may. You can enquire on their discord about the restocking.

As a dav2x user, don't get it there are much better options for the price. The only reason I got it was to match my keyboard lol Get VXE R1 it used to be 2900 don't know the current price but it has the flagship PAW 3395 sensor nothing has it for the price

VXE R1 all Day. Absolute Budget King. Pulsar Clone. More for Fingertip or Claw

https://preview.redd.it/k54jgd84usue1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dee3ebd844fc06e83f28742022d81bdcfd0400f9 Get the vxe r1. For the price this is the best one you can get. I got mine from loadout but you can also buy it from meckeys. I wouldn’t wish kreo on my worst enemy. If you have any questions about the mouse feel free to dm me.

I completely understand. The mouse industry has come a long way since then. I collect a lot of mouse (it’s a problem I genuinely need help) and I can tell you you don’t need to break the bank or go for just the name brands these days. Vxe r1 is genuinely a very good mouse. It’s much lighter than orochi v2 as this does not require batteries. I find the vxe 1 shape better than the eggshell shaped mice. It has a web based software so you can get rid of synapse. A very good sensor and a decent battery life. All for just 2600 (the price I bought it at).

This can be an understandable take. The VXE R1 is great, but it literally took me 45 mins of setup for it to work for my s/o. Great mouse, love the shape, weight, and everything abt it, but to a normal consumer that just wants a plug & play mouse with simple instructions and a web / dedicated app like G Hub or Razer Synapse, it’s definitely a turn off for most. Along with the fact that this mouse is best bought off of AliExpress, which people have so many doubts about for some reason. It can be harder to get others to be interested. If I were to recommend an easily accessible but great mouse, it’d be the Hitscan Hyperlight.

Mchose L7 is a clone of the Pulsar X2 MINI but even slightly smaller than that. It's quite a tiny mouse. On the contrary, the logitech g304 despite it's appearance, it's actually quite a filling mouse because of how the egg shape forces your fingers apart and is quite wide in the middle, it would be quite the adjustment for you to get a mouse as small as the mchose L7. I would go for the normal pulsar x2 shape. Some clones of that would be the Mchose L7 Pro/Ultra PLUS(+). From atk/vxe you have the Vxe r1 and the vxe mad r. Atk/vxe mice are only available from aliexpress so shipping times are a lot longer, but personally I prefer their mice to mchose and they're also a lot cheaper. Everyday aliexpress has a deal of if you spend more than $X get $Y off. On top of that there are lots of coupon codes you can apply at checkout if you pay with paypal. I was able to get my Vxe mad r for $28. The vxe r1 is the older version of that and it's dirt cheap even before aliexpress coupons. Downside if using atk/vxe is their bullshit with releasing 10 versions of every mouse... SE, standard, plus, pro, promax, ultra... really annoying. You can find the differences by looking up the mouse on their website and scrolling down until you find their chart. If you decide to go the atk/vxe route and get confused lmee know if you have any questions.

I wouldn't recommend those mice get the vxe r1

R1 is lighter good for small hands and offers better value.

Throw that mouse away and buy the vxe r1

VXE R1. no logo, no holes, no lights. only the product name on the side.

doesnt really matter for me, id rather take a vxe r1 over a viper mini

I have 21 cm hands, vxe R1 is perfect, you can try it if you want, it will probably fit your grip, if you want a picture for reference, just dm me

can vouch for vxe r1, great mouse for its price. Replaced my g304 had double click issue.

Vxe r1 Nearlink + MD Mousepad

It's good actually, it has a Pixart 3395 sensor, and a 500mah Battery. I play games and work evryday and the mouse can last 14 days with every day hard use. And It's very light

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads. Keyboard wise you can get the Madlions Hall Effect Wooting clone for about 50$.

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads

I have a more updated list here: * Incott Ghero Pro: Solid Mouse that feels like a GPX Ergo (or NP-01 Clone) and is extremely solidly build while staying price wise at 50$ * VGN Dragonfly F1: Solid orignial shape with a larger rear hump on the end that curves more inwards before coming out at the front, very safe shape at 46$ * ATK Blazing Sky F1: Shaped akin to a Sora V2 it's got a much larger rear hump with substantial curves as it comes into the front while going thinner towards it with lowered clicks. Is 38g and has a 3950 sensor but is usually a full 70$ * Darmoshark M3S: Solid Viper styled shape with those same bell curves, usually around 40$ * Zaopin Z2: Solid ergo light with a much smaller ergo feel yet still has a nice rounded bump and curve to it for the ergo feel at 50$ * Endgame Gear OP1 Wired: This is what a lot of mice are based on as EGG has some of the better mice on market in terms of quality and built and software. It's one of the best mice you can buy. It is wired but if you don't care about 4k or 8k it's perfectly fine at 45$ * VXE R1: Nearly identical to the Pulsar X2V2 it's got a super solid feel and the pro model has a better coating and overall well implemented sensor. Considered the king of the budgets it's 50$ for the Pro and as low as 20$ for not pro. * VXE Mad R: Identical to the mouse above in shape its another X2V2 clone perfect at 38g great for all grip styles, the Major verision has a 3950 sensor and is 45$ for normal, 63$ for Major, if you can grab this over the normal R1. * Incott HPC02M: is a X2 clone with supersolid build quality and the ability to swap the switches with ease. 55$ * PureTrak Valor: Clone of the GPX but with 3395 and USB-C that usually sells for sub 50$ * Incott G23: GPX clone with hotswappable switches at 50$ * Phlyina S450: HTS+ Clone with solid build quality and a really good mouse. They are working on a 38g version and have a 4k version around 40-50$ * Scyrox V8: Sora V2 clone at 38g with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 70$ * Attack Shark R6: Another Sora V2 Clone with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 50$. * ATK Blazing Sky X1: Viper V3 clone with 3950 and solid build quality right at the 70$ price range. * Incott G24: Zowie EC2 Clone that's hotswap and solid weight can be found for 70$ * Mchose L7: 38g with a shape somewhere between the Lamzu Atlantis and X2V2. It has flatter sides but still a larger rear curve to lock in slightly better than something like the Mad R while still feeling very premium. Basic model has 3395 for 45$ and pro is closer to 60$ for 3950. * Lethal LA-1: Basically a larger OP1. Same kind of curves but a larger overall feel, due to having some very small issues with the batch and to compete with budget mice it can now be found for 30$. * Razer Viper V3 Hyperspeed: While a bit heavier than most at 83g and using a AA battery, It still boasts a solid sensor and performance with a shape that people adore for 70$ * Scyrox V8 and V6: solid Sora clone and HTS+ clone both at around 40g with full 8k and solid internals. Very good overall and some of the best budget out there. 70$

I own vxe R1 ...great mouse . The best Value for money in that price segment

Yup I use it vgn atk hub web app which runs directly on browsers no need to install anything

Shape is king, so knowing what he likes makes it easy. Even the cheap chinese clones these days are excellent as long as you don't mind the non-existent customer service. They used to be a joke but things like the VXE R1 or Zaopin Z1 Pro frankly go toe to toe with the Pulsar X2 and Orochi that they're cloned from. Then you can spend the difference in price on a nice pad or enough dot skates to last you the rest of your life.

My vxe r1 been going strong

I'd say if possible, go for ATK VXE R1. Everyone that has used this mouse has loved it. It has a good sensor, solid build, good buttons, and is lightweight.

I got vxe r1 It's been serving me well, great mouse for 3k

very different shapes. a9 is like g pro x. x1 is razer viper. vxe r1 is a bit different, a bit more on the ergo side (relatively). ask chatgpt, it'll be useful

A9 is More of a claw grip with a hint of palm. Vxe r1 is more of a palm grip

I got my friend an VXE R1another a Delux M800 pro 3370 and I am using a 3370 myself. Wireless is a nice option to have when I am out and about and doesn't want to deal with a wire in my bag. If you dislike wireless you could always use the usb cable as a wire for your mouse not just charging. I got them for about 20 to 30 USD but do note I live close to China so those mouses are cheaper to get. Unfortunately good software only comes with name brand mouses and they are still charging ridiculous price for a wireless mouse. If you don't care about software get a Chinese wireless mouse.

what is your budget? if it is within 3k. Get VGN VXE r1 or r1 se+ or the madlions mouse

vxe r1 series is better imo, but you do you edit: why is this getting downvoted? i clearly said in my opinion

I’d recommend a Vxe r1 if you have smaller hands if you have bigger hands I’d look at mice by mchoose they have a good selection

Vxe r1 is the only mouse I can think of that’s good

I use a Vxe r1 and I love it. I also tried a mchoose L7 but it’s way too small for me.

Tbh the mice you've mentioned are specifically for gaming (fps/tac shooters). I don't think you should buy these if you're buying from a "productivity " pov. However, the vxe r1 and atk a9 are known to be very light, at around 45-55grams. They have good battery as well, so could be helpful for your use case.

You can buy them. They will perform better than any other mice you'll get in this range. I just wanted to give you a heads-up about the major use for these mice. Definitely go with whatever you like, I personally, can give my opinion about the vxe r1 as I have it. You can dm if you want to know about anything else.

aliexpress mice are really premium nowadays. i'd just forego the expensive brands entirely and get a vxe r1 or redragon hero pro 4k.

I used the 502 for around 5 years, it has the best shape imo, the grip I used was similar to yours, very comfortable. Switched to g102 for fps games, disliked the shape and feel, still much lighter than 502. Then to razer viper 8k, shape felt awkward to hold but better than g102. VXE R1 is what I use now. I would still prefer the shape and weight of 502 over anything for all non-gaming use.

>I have looked into other mice like the VXE R1s and Attack Sharks but the internet gives mixed reviews on the longevity and durability of them Yeah man, unfortunately mice like VXE R1s and others **will outlast** these Logitech and Steelseries mice.

I gambled and went for vxe r1. Holy shit I don’t regret and will probably never go back to wired mouse.. (btw this costed me 2.9k)

This is actually a good mouse with good battery backup.. I bought it on sept 4 and am using it ever since. Usually I play Valo,genshin etc. and is good for me. Its lightweight and the sensor is also good. If you can find it for under 3k then go for it. If you have too big of hand then dont.

Go for r1.. se plus has more battery but sensor is lower model compared to r1. Even I had to pre book and order.