OGM Cloud V2

If you like claw grip then just go for waizowl cloud v2 or ultra ( not XS ) You can also try eweadn s9 ultra or the ATK X1 ultimate

waizowl cloud v2, pulsar xlite large, you wont gregret neither of them

Also searched long time for big mouse, your grip rly matters here, got like all the mice you mention above, if i full relaxed palm grip I'm in love with the waizowl cloud, only decent palm option for big hands in my opinion, if you play claw i would go terra or dav or pulsarxlite

Mchose a7 ultra v2 / L7 ultra v2 Ipi float 88 Zaopin z2 / z2 max / z2 mini / zpw(?) Atk x1 Waizowl ogm cloud Waizowl ogm pro v2 (a bit more expensive) Look at the shape and buy any of this

Unfortunately, I was sucked into this hobby in 2016 (don't mind date, old account got shadowbanned) and I've essentially tried a variety of mice. My hands are like 19x9, and I play with a relaxed claw that goes into an aggressive claw when I'm putting more tension on the mouse. From oldest to newest: Logitech G303 (the original) Logitech G Pro (wired G102/G305) Razer Deathadder Chroma Zowie-EC1A Zowie-FK2 Endgame Gear XM1 G303 Shroud Edition Logitech G Pro Superlight Razer Viper (Wired) Ninjutso Katana Ultralight Razer Deathadder V3 Pro Waizowl Cloud VXE R1 Pro ATK X1 Ultimate Endgame Gear XM2w 4k Razer Deathadder V4 Pro ATK Zero Even now, I'm still trying to find the mouse that works for me. The only ones that I felt that really worked out are the G303/G303 SE, the XM1/XM2 and the R1 Pro/Zero. Though I have some slight problems with each of them. The G303/G303SE have become too heavy for me after getting used to all these lightweight mice (and I accidentally tore a ribbon cable of the G303 SE while replacing the battery for the weight mod), but aside from that I've been secretly hoping for the day a G303 clone arrives with updated specs and less weight. I feel that the XM1/XM2 just needs to downsize a little and it would be perfect, and the R1/Zero are fine, but they're just missing the locked in feeling the G303 and the XM1 gives me. Any recommendations that fit in well? Budget is unlimited, and the games I play vary from CS2 to Apex Legends to TF2 and Deadlock. I'm fine with the weight being up to 60 grams. EDIT: Ended up picking up the OP1w 4k V2 and man the back hump makes it far more comfortable compared to the Superlight 2c where it felt like my ring and pinky finger was going to cramp up after a couple of runs in a kovaaks scenario. Keeping it as my main, while repurposing my Waizowl Cloud to be used for non-gaming stuff because of how comfortable it feels in the hand.

Try a Waizowl Cloud on Aliexpress.. Sellers are selling them for $40 I own ZA12-C, ZA13-C, S1-C, S2-C and OP18K additionally a Intellimouse Pro.. - which gave me inspiration to checkout the Waizowl Cloud The ZA12-C grip width is perfect for me - other mice are just a little to narrow like you described. The Waizowl Cloud is super comfortable and I aim well with it. Checkout on eloshapes! - [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=scyrox-v8-vs.-zowie-za13-c-vs.-zowie-za12-c-vs.-microsoft-pro-intellimouse-vs.-waizowl-ogm-cloud) For aggressive / comfortable claw the ZA12-C is still my fav.. perfect grip width and super comfortable round rear hump. The Waizowl Cloud is another fav shape easily with as much research as I've done comparing back and forth.. The tech and weight for the $ is also pretty great - idc for 4/8k hz mice.