Zowie (BenQ) - EC1

Your best bet is probably Zowie EC1. They just released the DW version. My hands are 20.5 x 11.0 and for me the EC1 feels slightly too big.

I’m in the same boat as you, big hands and also used to have a deathadder. Id say the deathadder is about as big as they come, but you could try something like a Zowie EC1, similar shape but a bit bigger.

I also have some big ass hands and the Zowie EC1 was pretty comfy, although even with that one i have to curl my ring finger a fair amount so it doesn’t just kind of dangle past the end of the mouse

Using my ever Faithful EC1-A! Edit: Does anyone know a future replacement that is very similar to the EC1-A?

look like your grip is palm Ergo: deathadder v3 (pro) - delux m900 (large then deathadder v3); zowie ec1; pulsar xlite large size; glorius model D symmetrical - glorius model O, vaxee xe, lamzu maya X, waizowl ogm cloud

I have the EC1-A from 2018. It’s about to die. I’m considering EC1-DW (Large). Guess that’s the exact same size? I have large hands and have never had as great of a mouse as the EC1-A. Sadly, it’s not sold anymore… :(

EC1-A user. Mice about to die. Should I go with EC1 DW (Large) then if I want the same size for my hand? It’s the best mouse I’ve ever had. Have used it since 2016.

My pinky always goes on the pad as I like the feedback from the pad surface. With a relaxed claw. I like the ec1 it's very comfortable but my micro corrections and mobility go down especially with a pretty low sens. I was fine with that size 20 years ago when I just played CS but my performance these days is just better with medium size mice

With very large hands too, I’ve found that claw grip benefits me the most. But you might want to try the large EC shapes. Zowie EC1 and all that. But one huge mouse I liked was the Microsoft intellimouse. Massive.

With very large hands too, I’ve found that claw grip benefits me the most. But you might want to try the large EC shapes. Zowie EC1 and all that. But one huge mouse I liked was the Microsoft intellimouse. Massive.

I've used all the biggest gaming mice (Zowie EC1, Intellimouse Pro) for years with palm grip and I recently snagged a smaller, lighter mouse because it was on deep sale and it instantly made my aim better because I can now take advantage of my finger tips and wrist more. I'm still trying to get over the shock of how much I like the smaller mouse. Here's [a comparison](https://i.imgur.com/CdupkIU.png). I guess I'm saying all this to say don't be afraid to try something totally different, you might be surprised.

I like zowie. I've been using the EC1 for ages. The are pretty bland looking, no frills, no software. The EC1 is a large asymmetrical mouse. There is also an EC2 and EC3 (medium and small). They have a bunch of other series/shapes for other grip styles and hand sizes. It's mostly personal preference.

Zowie mice clicks from lightest to heaviest: ec > za > s > fk I've owned them all before they were wireless and I've owned the entire current wireless collection. Specifically the FK2 has the heaviest clicks in the entire lineup and the EC1 has the lightest. I don't know what kind of FK2 this guy got but it's a unicorn. I've owned like 4 different copies of FK2 over the years and it's always heavy clicks.

I gave up on claw or palm grip mice because none were big enough, I’ve tried them all (EC-1, G403, ZA-11 and more) Had to move to small fingertip mice.

I have the same hands size. I found the EC-1 very tiny. I’ve tried all the “large” mice. Like logi dex, EC-1, Mchose G7, Waizowl cloud, pulsar Tenz, and more. The absolute largest wireless I’ve felt is the G403. Most other mice feel too short to rest the top of my palm on. So I say get the Teevolution Terra (G403 Clone)

21x11cm. I can’t claw my G403, ZA-11, EC-1, or pulsar xlite large (all the largest mice on the market) without my fingers going way past the scroll wheel almost hanging off the front, and the thumb going way past the side buttons. My XM2 feels minuscule to try and claw especially with the tapered in sides. Thus I have to fingertip grip.

I DO connect my knuckles to the mouse. If I connected my palm I wouldn’t even be able to click at all. I think the EC-1 is fairly small for large hands, I’ve tried just about every “large” mouse.

Am I crazy? My EC-1 feels worlds smaller than my waizowl cloud, ZA-11, and Pulsar X3. The hump is so far forward I don’t get how people rest their hand on it without hanging their fingers off the front.

I’ve tried a lot of big mice, currently I think the Teevolution Terra (G403) is the biggest mouse on the market atm. There’s also the orbital pathfinder, and it feels nice with the extensions, but it doesn’t reach the height of the G403 which I miss using it. The Pulsar Tenz mouse has a nice high back hump, but I found the side buttons and scroll wheel weirdly positioned and hard to use personally. The Zowie EC-1, Mchose G7, and Waizowl cloud are recommended often for large hands, but I own all and found them pretty small for my 21cm length hands. Your mileage may vary though.

I’ve tried a lot of big mice, currently I think the Teevolution Terra (G403) is the biggest mouse on the market atm. There’s also the orbital pathfinder, and it feels nice with the extensions, but it doesn’t reach the height of the G403 which I miss using it. The Pulsar Tenz mouse has a nice high back hump, but I found the side buttons and scroll wheel weirdly positioned and hard to use personally. The Zowie EC-1, Mchose G7, and Waizowl cloud are recommended often for large hands, but I own all and found them pretty small for my 21cm length hands. Your mileage may vary though.

I’ve tried a lot of big mice, currently I think the Teevolution Terra (G403) is the biggest mouse on the market atm. There’s also the orbital pathfinder, and it feels nice with the extensions, but it doesn’t reach the height of the G403 which I miss using it. The Pulsar Tenz mouse has a nice high back hump, but I found the side buttons and scroll wheel weirdly positioned and hard to use personally. The Zowie EC-1, Mchose G7, and Waizowl cloud are recommended often for large hands, but I own all and found them pretty small for my 21cm length hands. Your mileage may vary though.

You are making me want to get my EC1 out again!

Zowie EC1, Razer Deathadder V3 are the best picks for larger hand gamers, especially with more relaxed grips. if you want something ambidextrous, the Superlight is probably near the largest new ambi mouse that people recommend. Maybe the Zowie FK1+-C? edit: scratch the fk1+-c if you're looking for light mice, it's 77g. I would highly recommend either the EC1-DW or Deathadder V3 Pro.

Zowie ec1 is huge and its ergo mouse so it's very very bulky too, should be perfect fit. My hands are about 18cm and 9cm wide and i found it to be too big for me

Zowie EC1-A. And I'm waiting for the upcoming Logitech Pro X2 Superstrike.

I have a benq zowie ec1 that fits nicely.

Definitely not a small claw grip mouse. You'd get cramps in no time lol. Maybe an Zowie EC1?

Without knowing what you play or what your measurements are I’ll just toss a couple general recommendations for big handed folks. Since you like the m550L (which I use at the office, there is a quiet click version with side buttons) and you don’t totally hate the g502 (the thumb rest) my strongest suggestion is a keychron m6: /m7- the m7 is basically the 502 with better scroll wheel placement, the m6 is heavier but with a high center arch that you might find more comfortable. Seeing how you’re palming a 502 like it’s a children’s toy I’d also suggest the largest ergos: pulsar xlite v3 large (maybe this is called the v4 now)/ zowie EC1

I will second the zowie ec1. Fellow big hander here. All my hobbies are pretty hand intensive, and my problem was always squeezing mice to death while playing stressful games. Ive had multiple zowies, and the ec1 is their newer "bigger" one. Never had any issues. The only bigger mice I've had were some shitty razer ones, and they were such low quality that I wouldn't even recommend them..

CW and DW are the same size, and to me they feel the same too shapewise. To me the one that felt smaller was the EC1-A White glossy, since then the coating of the upper shell started to be thicker, making the mouse slightly bulkier.

Benq zowie EC-1 using currently.

still happy with the pulsar? I do keep wondering how the higher hump wil feel like. i had a ec1-b before which has the same design as the ec1-dw. also used a deathadder before which was verrrry long.

Biggest nice you'll find is the zowie ec1 and maybe some shell combination of the the orbital pathfinder

You would probably be more comfortable on the Zowie EC1 than the EC2. Death adder v3/v4 would likely fit you very well also. A cheaper and more interesting option would be the Teevolution Terra. Check all the shapes on ELO Shapes to get an idea.

YOU CANT BE SERIOUSSSS AAAAAAAAAAA, those are the exactly issues Ive always found on the EC1 and just now I realized by you that they fixed, and the funny part is that after 40+ mices EC1 is my endgame + the EC1-DW will arrive it here tomorrowww. CANT WAITT AAAAAAAAAAAA

It is my endgame (for now <3). I enjoyed the shape, and the right front corner is much better. I dislike that the left corner / back part is smaller. Did you notice that either? I did have better support for the meaty part of my thumb there with EC1-C. Unfortunately, they reduced the size there as well. Other than that I am using the Singularity by Tekkusai to avoid excess friction on my ring finger as unfortunately same issue as previous EC1 I find the front right corner not tall enough, at least now its more comfortable as its more rounded (I wish it were even more flatter to be honest). I am eager to see what Zowies releases in the next EC1-EW version of shape improvements. I am also waiting to see if they will release ZA11-DW or S1-DW next.

Trust me an ergo like the EC1 will feel much bigger than the ambi counterpart. I had this with both the FK1 and the EC1 where the EC1 feels much bigger, and also with the Waizowl Cloud and the OGM Pro where the Pro feels much bigger again.

Nah, Razers suck. I remember when the left click button literally ripped apart on my DeathAdder Chroma when it just launched and Razer did jackshit for the waranty. The only quality products that they have are mousepads, i had mine for 11 years (bought it together with the Deathadder Chroma) and it still looks brand new. Zowies also have problems, like after 1 and a half years of use my EC1-B's scroll just decided to stop working, i took it apart and cleaned the sensor but it didn't help. At this point it's better to get a cheap mouse and replace it whenever it breaks apart then to have to deal with premium brands again. Personally i now rock on with the classic G502 only cause it's 30 bucks and if i have the double click issue i can either solder another switch (bought a few just in case) or buy another altogether cause it's 30 bucks..

Judging by your larger hands you might like the deathadder v3 wired or zowie ec1 for large ergo. I can't really think of any large wired ambi mice that have decent cables right now.

G502 for LoL and single player games and Zowie ec1 for online shooters.

Same size as mine, Zowie EC1, Lamzu Maya X, GPX2, Deathadder, Glorious Model D2, …. There are dozens of mice that are big enough

I am incredibly happy with my two zowie mice - both the scroll wheel and the switches for the clicks. I rocked my first EC1-B for probably 4+years? It's still kicking, but I replaced it with the EC1-BW because my friend gifted it to me to try wireless. The build quality and component quality for the price is top notch for both of my mice; plug and play is a huge plus for me. They have ambidextrous and ergonomic mice, and generally have different sizings for each model. Yes you can find mice that are better on paper, shinier, or weigh less. My observation is that a lot of these other companies have problems with quality and longevity and a broken mouse is always worse than a functioning one. Zowie just works and personally has not wronged me!

I am incredibly happy with my two zowie mice - both the scroll wheel and the switches for the clicks. I rocked my first EC1-B for probably 4+years? It's still kicking, but I replaced it with the EC1-BW because my friend gifted it to me to try wireless. The build quality and component quality for the price is top notch for both of my mice; plug and play is a huge plus for me. They have ambidextrous and ergonomic mice, and generally have different sizings for each model. Yes you can find mice that are better on paper, shinier, or weigh less. My observation is that a lot of these other companies have problems with quality and longevity and a broken mouse is always worse than a functioning one. Zowie just works and personally has not wronged me!

Maybe try Zowie EC1 it’s pretty big ergo mouse and the ec series is very popular in competitive gaming too

LOOOONG time cs player here Get a Zowie. EC1 or EC2 is posible

I bought the large zowie mouse and only used it for like 2 minutes. It was painfully narrow.

Zowie mice are super well made and long lasting and they have buttons underneath to change DPI and polling, no software. The wireless mice aren't cheap though, you'll need to look at a wired version.

The wired zowie is better than all these 3. U will de dissapointed if u want it yo be ec2 level. What about Deathadder hyperspeed? that would be way better than all 3 and doesnt cost much more i think

non pro viper wireless, razer deathadder, i'd argue g305 lightspeed, xtrfy m42, wired zowie, superlight 1, glorious wired, some lgg mice, some vaxee mice, endgame gear op1k. All these are like 25-80€ if my quick currency version is right. Some of these are wireless too. Especially if you snipe a sale you can get a really good deal. in "top tier mice" I mean the ones that are basically the same shape as the "standards", superlight 2, viper v3 pro, deathadder v3 pro, etc. Obviously the tech is a bit worse, but we were hitting insane shots on mice 15+ years ago, even the worse mice are 100% good enough. 4k/8k polling doesnt change that much, and thats the major sell of the more expensive mice. I've managed to pick up qck+ for like 10€ on average the last few years, always on sale somewhere. Otherwise a sale on a lgg saturn (standard), zowie gsr (any version you prefer). Qck might not be the longest lasting, but it's usually on a good sale so you never really have to fork out more than AT MOST 40€ a year on it if you're really picky with pad and swap it 4x a year, but most ppl usually keep it for 6-24 months atleast.

I wouldnt say that, its just made for palm grip for medium-small hands. I have medium hands, my friend has small, I use this and he uses the ec2-cw, completely fine

looks like pincer claw try zowie ec mice

I got my first Deathadder in 2009. I had two of the original model, one 3.5 and one 4G. In 2015, I bought a Zowie EC that I've been using near daily for the past decade.

I got my first Deathadder in 2009. I had two of the original model, one 3.5 and one 4G. In 2015, I bought a Zowie EC that I've been using near daily for the past decade.

I got my first Deathadder in 2009. I had two of the original model, one 3.5 and one 4G. In 2015, I bought a Zowie EC that I've been using near daily for the past decade.

Those have programmable buttons excluding the zowie EC as it doesn't have software

Depends EC for ergonomic, fk for claw/fingertip, s/za/u for claw grip

Something ergo from zowie/ deathadder V3 pro / deathadder V3 hyperspeed / Vaxee

Basically any ergo mouse, ie. Deathadder v3 or v4. ZOWIE EC. There’s hundreds of good ergo mice out there.

not sure what you mean by 3 mode. but ergo mice like the EC series by zowie, death adder series, FK2-DW(ambi), Maya X(ambi), GPX Dex, but it entirely depends on your hand size and preferences

Zowie wireless ones go for triple the price of these . I used to have a zowie ec mouse back in 2014 to 2020 the right doesn't work anymore otherwise a brilliant mouse

No Zowie on the FPS list is kinda crazy to me. Zowie is BenQs mouse brand, it’s a no frills very high quality mouse. No software no firmware updates, 4 DPI presets. They are consistently the best FPS mice I’ve owned. On the flip side, Logi G600 is hands down the best MMO mouse, it actually promotes me to be so lazy with keybinds I find myself using it in games other than MMOs. Protip: the older Logi Gaming Software works way better than the newer LGS for the G600.

More like user issue to me. Some people out there are just bad and doesn’t take care of things. If you take care of something, It’ll take care of you. Stay away from Logitech and Steelseries. My glorious O is 5 years old now. I had my Benq Zowie for more than a decade and I still use it. Still have my Deathadder, Mamba, Spectre and Naga throughout the years. Zowie is always been my mouse and I bought one from 2022. I use my 10+ year old on my laptop.

BenQ Zowie has been great for me.