Zowie (BenQ) - EC1-CW

Deathadder used to be my absolute favorite mouse due to size and feel as ive got some large hands. Every single one has ended up getting scroll wheel issues after a year or two. I've probably had quite a few over a decade now.  I swapped over to the Zowie EC1-CW and its been the best mouse ive ever used hands down. The scroll wheel is louder and doesn't feel super smooth or anything but ive had it forever now and have never had a single issue at all. My only gripe is the finish is super smooth on it and with my sweaty hands it wasn't ideal, but I threw on a $9 set of pads for the mouse and its basically perfect. They have a new one, the EC1-DW? I think its called which is a lot lighter but same dimensions basically. If you have big hands, this thing fits like a glove imo. Can't give it high enough praise.

Jumping straight into it as someone who has mained the EC series for many years now, specifically the EC1 with 20x10cm hands, its great to see Zowie doing their mice shapes justice and refining them CORRECTLY (looking at you razer DA). **SHAPE:** Starting with the most interesting aspect of the update in my opinion are the SHAPE CHANGES... Seemingly the shape has been quietly refined in the most positive way for my hands and grip style. The dimension changes on the Zowie website may seem suttle on the surface (changes in size are all under 1mm) however they do change the shape to a degree to which is noticeable in hand coming from the EC1-CW which ive used for almost 2 years now. Going into detail the mouse has generally increased slightly in width and slightly in height making the mouse supply additional support in parts of my hand (Pinky, and Base of Palm) I previously didnt get while still allowing for a pocket at the back of my palm (I use claw grip with my fingers extended to the front of the mouse). The hump to me seems to taper off slightly less towards the base remaining higher for longer or just being higher in general making for more palm contact and does offer a more prominent hump (ever so slightly) that i really appreciate. Next the right side of the mouse also offers a change in the actual shape to the front of the mouse, meaning its corners are slightly less rounded and more flat right at the top right of the mouse which for me is perfect as I my ring finger used to slant inward due to this issue on the EC1-CW, the pinky is also more supported and this is where the shape change is noticed the most, its like i lay my hand on the mouse and my hand is greeted where its at, no additional squeeze needed to tuck my pinky in anymore which I experienced on the EC1-CW, this will all be personal preference I can see some preferring the previous iteration however for myself this is an excellent refinement and amplification of what the mouse already had going for it. **Weight and QC** : Amazing weight for such a large mouse and being so well balanced it feels extremely enjoyable to use, QC is perfect on my copy as it was on my previous EC1-CW they feel as sturdy as eachother which is impressive seeing as they knocked off almost 20 Grams on the big boy. Clicks seem ever so more tactile but still light which is exactly what I would've asked for. **Performance:** 4k feels great and very responsive, never any issues with connection on Zowie mice so no complaints here either. **Overall/TLDR:** Best iteration of the EC1 there has been, shape has been refined to offer an even comfier more controllable experience, mouse feels slightly larger, which to some will actually be a negative but to me its created an even better experience truly a GEM for large hands. I believe the price was actually reduced in the UK aswell to £130 from £150 on the CW line which is also a bonus. Feel free to ask any questions :) \[UPDATE\] No longer my main, nothing wrong with the mouse per say, just still incompatible with my claw grip and large hands as my ring finger doesnt feel like its sitting on a flat panel just one thats got a rounded corner at the front that really offsets my micro adjustments like the previous EC1-CW. My 1/2 improvements to the shape would be to straighten out the front corner on the right side so it doesn't bend inward to the mouse, and next I would position the hump more toward the back, this would supply more support and height to the back of the mouse that would be perfection, changing the hump position more towards the rear would be more optimal on this shape for my claw grip.

I'll send you this video brotha only video i've seen where someone also mentions it [https://youtu.be/c22DtC4g\_Lw?t=415](https://youtu.be/c22DtC4g_Lw?t=415) and it seems to be confirmed by zowie atleast for the ec3-dw, but all ec-dw mice have shown dimension changes on the zowie website.

100% that sounds great. id trade my EC1-cw for that in a heartbeat

price is relative, just want to buy 1 mouse. they all seem like a good decision, just hard to choose. i use a wired g502 at work and can beat some of my AimLabs highscores with it over a superlight, and i swear its because of mouse size (definitely isnt because of weight lol). Thats been my hang-up over the Thorn, that it may be too short (the reason i dont like the superlight). However, what youre saying about the DAV3 makes me think that that might be the way to go. Also, are you referring to the DAV3 hyperspeed or the pro? The pro is larger and closer to a EC1-CW

got it from zowie already, and no regerts at ALL i actually think the side of LMB2 on the DAV would have been annoying. i like a soft mousepad and control, so this is great for flicking but good recoil control and i swear its because its got a little weight to her. and its...kinda bottom heavy...which is nice...strange honestly, but working for me.

still would like to try the same but much lighter though, like a lamzu thorn. not to take anything from the zowie, just think it might be better in different use-cases. i think the weight on the zowie should honestly be a selling point, and not used against it, but its genuinely a different exp from a lighter mouse like my superlight (cant beat the size and comfort tho! sheeeeee)

Get the Zowie and save yourself trying 5 different mice.

I had the same problem, have tried about 10 different mice. Zowie EC1-CW is the only mouse that will actually fill your hand. I’ve been using it for a while and the only other mouse I’ve thought about trying is the ZA13.

Depends on your handsize and what grip you want to have. I’ve tested logitech and razer but was not the right shape/size for me. Ended up with a zowie ec1-cw and never looked back.

Very subjective question and it also depends on your grip and handsize. I’ve tested deathadder v3, superlight 2, razer viper and eventually ended up using the ec1-cw for a long time. Now switched to ec1-dw and its brilliant. I’ve got big hands though and i like a palm grip.

Thanks for the response (: **G502**: While its size seems larger than the basilisk, it has too many buttons sadly, the sniper button especially makes my thumb feel uneasy **EC1-CW**: Not a fan of the charging station at all. **DeathAdder V3 Pro**: Too expensive, too short. **Pulsar Xlite V3 L**: Side buttons are great, looks great, would get it However, wouldn't it be shorter? I feel like i'd need something of that layout for my fingers. >**Basilisk X**: 5.11 x 2.36 x 1.65 inches >**Xlite V3**: 4.98 x 2.73 . 1.75

Thank you! I did not know I could replace it, that is a bonus point. While I do not mind them, I am not a fan of the buttons on the edge of the mouse as I do not use them really, but I had a g402 for 3 years and I adored it, and it had these buttons, so i may look into the g502x. I do however want a bigger feel than the basilisk, so the xlite v3 gets extra points here, but neither should feel bigger, so I think a third option may work best.

I've got big hands, the best mice for my hands have been the Zowie EC1-CW and the pulsar xlite v3 large. The issue with the Zowie is it's quite old tech and it's quite heavy however they're expected to release the EC1-DW soon but there's no date set on release. The pulsar mouse already has a new version, they released the Xlite V4 large, I found that to be a really decent mouse but I think that's another one where you'd need to buy the 8k polling dongle separately.

My hands are slightly smaller than yours and the G502 feels like a toy to me so ignore these suggestions, it's marginally bigger than the basilisk but for big hands it's basically identical. In reality they don't make mice for us, none of them will fill our palm so I tend to pick mice with a decently wide footprint to get a decent grip on with my fingers, the mice that have been decent to achieve this for me are: Darmoshark M3, Teevolution Terra, Zowie EC1-CW (EC1-DW is the newest version), pulsar Xlite V3 Large (V4 is the newest version). None of these will your palm because they don't fill mine but they're wider and more substantial than the G502/basilisk shape which is narrow and awkward.

OK I pulled the trigger on an EC1-CW because I saw one on Ebay for £65, the seller has 100% feedback and he's sold 100s of items, he said in the description it's too big for him so hopefully it's not a box of rocks and also hopefully it fits my hand better

I've ordered an EC1 because I got a deal on it, hopefully that's good for me

I've ordered a zowie EC1-CW, that's my last attempt really for a big ergo. If it's not a good fit then I'd probably just get a superlight or viper and claw it

I've ordered an EC1-CW and if that doesn't fit I'm thinking the same thing, if that doesn't work out then I'll do something smaller and none ergo like a superlight or viper and claw grip them

I've ordered an EC1-CW, that's my last real option and if it doesn't fit I'll get a mid size none ergo mouse then use claw grip

I ended up buying an EC1-CW and I'm glad I did, it's easily the best mouse I've ever owned and I'm gonna be looking out for Zowie from now on

So you are not upgrading? I went from the razer to the Zowie EC1-CW and I have to say the switch was super easy for me.

So you are not upgrading? I went from the razer to the Zowie EC1-CW and I have to say the switch was super easy for me.

So you are not upgrading? I went from the razer to the Zowie EC1-CW and I have to say the switch was super easy for me.

Just got an EC1 CW used for 50euros, since they should release a new one "soon tm". I think you should try to find an used one, it seems really durable.

EC1 Master Race 😁 I actually gifted my EC1-CW to a friend recently, when they left my team at work. Its a great mouse for many reasons. The main reason i gifted it to him was because of the dual receivers and the charging dock functionality. A good mouse for gamers and office workers too

Ec1-cw for large hands it's an ergonomic mouse for palm grip but you can claw grip it.

The basic grip styles are palm, claw, fingertip Since you prefer ergonomic Dav3 wired, ec1-c, xlite v3 large wired, there are wireless versions of these mice too Dav3 pro, ec1-cw (soon ec1-dw) xlite v3 large wireless, super light 2 Dex Well wireless mice performance is similar to wired they're not shit like it used to be before, you won't notice a difference, only matter is the shape and if the cable doesn't bother you get wired if yes get wireless

Those have programmable buttons excluding the zowie EC as it doesn't have software

Depends EC for ergonomic, fk for claw/fingertip, s/za/u for claw grip

CW and DW are the same size, and to me they feel the same too shapewise. To me the one that felt smaller was the EC1-A White glossy, since then the coating of the upper shell started to be thicker, making the mouse slightly bulkier.

100% Zowie, after decades of gaming mice. I like the EC1-CW wireless because it can be sized for larger hands, is ergonomic, and the dock on my desk makes charging effortless. I don't think in the year that I've owned it that I've ever had to worry about running out of battery because of how easy the dock is to use.

Fellow big hander here. I recommend the Zowie ec1-cw

I love my Zowie EC1-CW. It's simple. There is a "better" sensor out, but I have dozens of mouses, and I dont know why for me it's got my favorite sensor. I think I lift the mouse up a little as I mouse around, and this one seems to track just right for my usage. It's got a good latency, it's plain and comfortable. You don't need drivers (it's got hardware buttons for everything on the bottom). The charging, wireless, and corded mode's all work good. I'm kind of a mouse collector and I literally have a box filled with mouses. I still have my first razer boomslang and diamondback (diamond back still one of my favorite mice of all time although I grew out of that grip style I use it from time to time).

23cm x 13cm. I switched from the EC1-CW to the Pulsar Xlite v4 Large and I am liking it so much more.

I'll paste what I said on another post a few days ago::: "Start budget friendly before buying big $$$. There's a mass of under $50 usd mice that are great. Obvious things first: Shape preference: Do you want Ergo or Ambi, this correlates with your grip style (finger, claw, palm, or hybrid of any) Size: Do you have big hands or small hands Testing: Do you have any computer related stores near you to try them out, like display models Affordability: Don't always look at the "best" option. There may be some $40 mouse that you fall crazy for. Wired or wireless: preference, these days they perform equal to eachother with minimal latency variation Weight: Do you want light (40-60g) medium (60-80g) or heavier side (80g+) this can also fall onto your playstyle. More fast and snappy, or slow and steady Do some solid research and try to find something suited for your hands. It took me years of buying mice and wasting money to find that I perform the best with a G pro wireless shape and 40-60g weight. I'm a palm/claw hybrid grip and are fast-paced and snappy. Also, have larger hands at 21x11.5cm. I cant stress enough, you dont need to spend over $100 on a "the pros use this" mouse... in the end if that is what you like, then by all means! If it makes you happy, and you'll use it for years, then it's worth it. I fell in love with the G-Wolves Hati HTM for shooters and fast games, and also have the Zowie EC1-CW for chill out, lean-back & relax games. **Many people use multiple mice.** You don't always have to settle on one. If the budget fits 2, and you find 2 different mice for different things **and you like them both for different usage**, then do it. If you find a mouse you like for example the g pro wireless; you can go to "eloshapes" website and in the compare size tool it will show you other mice with the same or close to the same size and shape."

Biggest misconception about the G502 is that it's made for large hands. While it works for some; myself included cannot use it. It's too damn narrow at the grip. My buddy with slightly smaller hands performs extremely well with it. If you fancy spending a little $$$ for a long term mouse, I recommend the Zowie EC line. Ergo shape, very large, around 70-80g, no extra software needed. I myself searched all over for a good mouse that fit my hand, went through about 40 different mice, and ended up on the "Zowie EC1-CW". I wanted large, not 100g, wireless, don't care for RGB, and more modern performance (negligible), and no additional programs needed to change mouse settings. Another few mice I enjoyed (though heavy) was the Razer Naga, Corsair M65, and (not heavy) G Pro Wireless / Superlight, and Glorious Model D. My hands are 8.25 x 4.5 (If I remember correctly). And I can totally palm the EC1-CW comfortably. It's literally a perfect fit for my hand. They also have different sizes of the same mouse. Also take grip style into account. I'm more a hybrid of Palm/claw. Width was the biggest killer for most mice from my experience. Anything under 63mm grip area width gave me cramps in my hand

Oh shit there's a new one? If it's the same as the EC 1 CW OP should buy it

EC1-CW might fit you better since its 131mm long. Other than that you don't really have a choice... you have to transition to claw or fingertip grip.

I wonder why Zowie switched to unbraided rubber cables with the -DW series mice. The -CW mice actually did have a paracord type cable that was excellent.

I have pretty normal to smaller hands but I enjoy big mice too that fill out the hand, have you looked at the Zowie EC-1? They have a wireless version now and it's really good. By far my favorite mouse I've ever used. It's lightweight too without having holes in it!

I’ve had a zowie ec c series mouse now for years and it hasn’t had any issues

Thank you, i still stand by my point on this matter, its not even my "opinion" its mere statistics of my purchases and quality/RMAs in last 10 years. needless to say, since i made this post i am now using newest zowie benq wireless mouse and its been working fine, lets see how long it lasts

I wouldnt say that, its just made for palm grip for medium-small hands. I have medium hands, my friend has small, I use this and he uses the ec2-cw, completely fine

looks like pincer claw try zowie ec mice

I got my first Deathadder in 2009. I had two of the original model, one 3.5 and one 4G. In 2015, I bought a Zowie EC that I've been using near daily for the past decade.

I got my first Deathadder in 2009. I had two of the original model, one 3.5 and one 4G. In 2015, I bought a Zowie EC that I've been using near daily for the past decade.

I got my first Deathadder in 2009. I had two of the original model, one 3.5 and one 4G. In 2015, I bought a Zowie EC that I've been using near daily for the past decade.

Something ergo from zowie/ deathadder V3 pro / deathadder V3 hyperspeed / Vaxee

Basically any ergo mouse, ie. Deathadder v3 or v4. ZOWIE EC. There’s hundreds of good ergo mice out there.

not sure what you mean by 3 mode. but ergo mice like the EC series by zowie, death adder series, FK2-DW(ambi), Maya X(ambi), GPX Dex, but it entirely depends on your hand size and preferences

Zowie wireless ones go for triple the price of these . I used to have a zowie ec mouse back in 2014 to 2020 the right doesn't work anymore otherwise a brilliant mouse