EC1-CW

Deathadder used to be my absolute favorite mouse due to size and feel as ive got some large hands. Every single one has ended up getting scroll wheel issues after a year or two. I've probably had quite a few over a decade now.  I swapped over to the Zowie EC1-CW and its been the best mouse ive ever used hands down. The scroll wheel is louder and doesn't feel super smooth or anything but ive had it forever now and have never had a single issue at all. My only gripe is the finish is super smooth on it and with my sweaty hands it wasn't ideal, but I threw on a $9 set of pads for the mouse and its basically perfect. They have a new one, the EC1-DW? I think its called which is a lot lighter but same dimensions basically. If you have big hands, this thing fits like a glove imo. Can't give it high enough praise.

Tried that as well, it's too short sadly

>according to eloshapes the size of the DA v3/v4 pro is really similar to the ec1 but slightly higher, which i think i like. It may suit you for that reason, I have gigantic hands so the EC1 is just better for me but the Dav 3/4 might feel a little better and compact for you while still being roughly the size and shape that you like. They're also much lighter which is nice. There's also the EC1 DW which is a newer, lighter wireless version of the EC1, they're great nice and if you like Zowie then I see no reason to switch it up personally, I still use the EC1-CW which is the older wireless version and I love it.

That's completely understandable, I personally like the feel of the Zowie switches but it's personal preference. I've tried the Dav 3 and I enjoyed it a lot it's a fairly big mouse while also feeling light and tactile so I'd recommend it to anyone, there is a problem with the scroll wheel but in the Dav 4 this is supposedly fixed. Although I never had any issues with it in the slightest when I used it and I mained it for about 6 months before giving it to my brother.

EC1-DW easily, or if you wanna spend a bit less get an EC1-CW on eBay, they're built like tanks so buying them used is never a bad idea

Zowie is a solid choice! EC1 CW. I have one for sale, 🤙 hit me up.

Jumping straight into it as someone who has mained the EC series for many years now, specifically the EC1 with 20x10cm hands, its great to see Zowie doing their mice shapes justice and refining them CORRECTLY (looking at you razer DA). **SHAPE:** Starting with the most interesting aspect of the update in my opinion are the SHAPE CHANGES... Seemingly the shape has been quietly refined in the most positive way for my hands and grip style. The dimension changes on the Zowie website may seem suttle on the surface (changes in size are all under 1mm) however they do change the shape to a degree to which is noticeable in hand coming from the EC1-CW which ive used for almost 2 years now. Going into detail the mouse has generally increased slightly in width and slightly in height making the mouse supply additional support in parts of my hand (Pinky, and Base of Palm) I previously didnt get while still allowing for a pocket at the back of my palm (I use claw grip with my fingers extended to the front of the mouse). The hump to me seems to taper off slightly less towards the base remaining higher for longer or just being higher in general making for more palm contact and does offer a more prominent hump (ever so slightly) that i really appreciate. Next the right side of the mouse also offers a change in the actual shape to the front of the mouse, meaning its corners are slightly less rounded and more flat right at the top right of the mouse which for me is perfect as I my ring finger used to slant inward due to this issue on the EC1-CW, the pinky is also more supported and this is where the shape change is noticed the most, its like i lay my hand on the mouse and my hand is greeted where its at, no additional squeeze needed to tuck my pinky in anymore which I experienced on the EC1-CW, this will all be personal preference I can see some preferring the previous iteration however for myself this is an excellent refinement and amplification of what the mouse already had going for it. **Weight and QC** : Amazing weight for such a large mouse and being so well balanced it feels extremely enjoyable to use, QC is perfect on my copy as it was on my previous EC1-CW they feel as sturdy as eachother which is impressive seeing as they knocked off almost 20 Grams on the big boy. Clicks seem ever so more tactile but still light which is exactly what I would've asked for. **Performance:** 4k feels great and very responsive, never any issues with connection on Zowie mice so no complaints here either. **Overall/TLDR:** Best iteration of the EC1 there has been, shape has been refined to offer an even comfier more controllable experience, mouse feels slightly larger, which to some will actually be a negative but to me its created an even better experience truly a GEM for large hands. I believe the price was actually reduced in the UK aswell to £130 from £150 on the CW line which is also a bonus. Feel free to ask any questions :) \[UPDATE\] No longer my main, nothing wrong with the mouse per say, just still incompatible with my claw grip and large hands as my ring finger doesnt feel like its sitting on a flat panel just one thats got a rounded corner at the front that really offsets my micro adjustments like the previous EC1-CW. My 1/2 improvements to the shape would be to straighten out the front corner on the right side so it doesn't bend inward to the mouse, and next I would position the hump more toward the back, this would supply more support and height to the back of the mouse that would be perfection, changing the hump position more towards the rear would be more optimal on this shape for my claw grip.

I'll send you this video brotha only video i've seen where someone also mentions it [https://youtu.be/c22DtC4g\_Lw?t=415](https://youtu.be/c22DtC4g_Lw?t=415) and it seems to be confirmed by zowie atleast for the ec3-dw, but all ec-dw mice have shown dimension changes on the zowie website.

Get the Zowie and save yourself trying 5 different mice.

I had the same problem, have tried about 10 different mice. Zowie EC1-CW is the only mouse that will actually fill your hand. I’ve been using it for a while and the only other mouse I’ve thought about trying is the ZA13.

Very subjective question and it also depends on your grip and handsize. I’ve tested deathadder v3, superlight 2, razer viper and eventually ended up using the ec1-cw for a long time. Now switched to ec1-dw and its brilliant. I’ve got big hands though and i like a palm grip.